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CryptoNote Team highly values contribution from all the CryptoNote currencies to the technology development and adoption. We believe in coin pluralism and would like to see more CN currencies launching.

That is why CryptoNote Team has created a completely new repository and a step-by-step guide that covers forking process. It is designed to help everyone get accustomed with source code basics and give CryptoNote technology a try:

CryptoNote Starter
http://cryptonotestarter.org
https://github.com/cryptonotefoundation/cryptonote

Reference implementation
CryptoNoteCoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686485.

News
2014/07/01 - CryptoNote Starter released
2014/07/11 - Testnet tool released: https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=234
2014/07/11 - Currency reference implementation launched under the name CryptoNoteCoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686485.
2014/07/18 - Smart genesis block creation added: https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=220&p=806#p806
2014/07/29 - Emission calculator and address prefix generator tools added to cryptonotestarter.org: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673203.msg8082560#msg8082560
2014/08/08 - Knowledge base published: https://cryptonotestarter.org/kb/

More on CryptoNote
https://cryptonote.org/inside.php
https://cryptonote.org/coins.php
https://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf
https://forum.cryptonote.org

Same thread on our forum
https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=219

This is where it is getting interesting. How many coins do you guys think is enough for CryptoNote?

You did start the repository from Bytecoin and your guide is really helpful. By the way nice site but I didn't notice "Start forking" button for quite some time.

Great looking read I'll have a look at it within a few minutes and might consider doing this.

Let's start at least one billion cryptonote coins this week ;D

What I appreciate about CN is not only they created the first truly anonymous currency, they help the community to learn the technology.

Nice guide, it seems like the biggest problem is to think of a good name for a future coin.

Doesn't this just make it even easier for people without any knowledge of how to make an altcoin churn out hundreds of unneeded and unwanted shitcoins and scamcoins?

Does it mean, that you, official creaters of Cryptonote technology, will start your reference-implementation official coin?

If so, what will be the name for this coin?

No easier than it has been for people to churn out BTC and scrypt clones. Real development is needed to attract serious investors and some copy paste kids won't change that.

Will you be updating the reference code to include changes from the Monero core team?

Nice idea. I love it.

We can see creation of another "Unity3d" but only for cryptocurrencies. I know that my reference is a little bit ridiculous, but i believe in a coin pluralism too.

Dear Cryptonote!

I join to the question. It should be clear whether do you plan to make the reference Cryptonote coin "from official creators of Cryptonote technology", or not. And seeing question below, whether do you merge some of Monero code to it?

Or may be you will join to Monero team, and adjudge Monero to be the 'reference' Cryptonote implementation?

I ask you honestly I directly: you did speak about pluralism of Cryptonote coins and did make the whole web site for ordinary users to fork Cryptonote coin easily. What ulterior motives do you have to fire up that pluralism?!

Actually, we being customers, are not interested in such a pluralism. We need exactly ONE reference & robust Cryptonote coin! But I suspect you want to disconsider the whole Cryptonote technology by making forking acccessible to ordinary users. They will simply do 1000 shit-coins based on the Cryptonote technology!

Please, answer the question!

Care to prove you are in any way related to the persons behind cryptonote?

Also good question!

http://cryptonotestarter.org - is not signed by SSL certificate
https://forum.cryptonote.org - has untrusted signature

only https://cryptonote.org/ has normal signature.

Cryptonote guy, you must prove us you are official Cryptonote technology creators!

It's just that 6 posts on bitcointalk... Seriously?  ;D

That looks like a not-so-elaborated attempt to launch your "We'll be launching a reference code coin".
"Reference code coin", yeah sure. The cryptonote guys wouldn't start something like that, or announce it like that if they did.

You'll find many people apparently who believe a newb on the forum, just because he posted links.

You can recheck the original post on our board, there's a link to this thread:
https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=219&p=754#p754

There is also a link from cryptonote.org to cryptonotestarter.org



We do believe that there is an opportunity for a lot of coins to co-exist. In the long run there will be a few that matters and a lot of lesser currencies. You may think about it as another important CryptoNote experiment. There are new currencies, assets, and liquidity emerging from nowhere. It is a natural process for the developed economy, which could ultimately reshape the way we live. Current paradigm is already changing and CryptoNote aims to facilitate it.


We are pursuing educational goals with this launch. CryptoNote's source code is radically different from Bitcoin and all the altcoins, so the team wanted to explain the basics to get more attention. Therefore, our reference code coin will be launched merely for the same considerations. It won't be economically viable, as we do not wish to maintain the real currency. Our focus is more strategic at the moment. You'll see everything yourself quite soon.

The coin's name is likely to be CryptoNoteCoin.

Who knows... One detail I just mentioned - https://cryptonote.org/ with nornal SSL signature DOES contain http link to http://cryptonotestarter.org/ that is NOT SSL-signed at all. Whether cryptonote guys are just not accurate perfectly or forgot to SSL-sign http://cryptonotestarter.org/, or there is man-in-the-middle attack...

See, cryptonote guys never answer us since very 1st post at thread begining...

WTF?!...

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Upd. One answer detected by me - see above ))

But big part of unclear remains. Why cryptonote guys are not accurate with SSL certificates. And why they follow just educational purposes. Who but not creators of Cryptonote technology can make viable robust & commercial Cryptonote coin that brings millions of dollars to its creators?! What are the motives that manage you?

Upd2. And imagine you will create your 'educational' reference Cryptonote coin. Do you protect it from commercial trading, i.e. insert a block into the source, that prevents actual transfer to the exchange addresses? The block that protects against actually ANY coin transfer between addresses? To be the coin just educational?

As I've mentioned our CryptoNoteCoin won't be economically viable, it is designed to serve educational purposes only. We'll merge all the prominent updates from all the CryptoNote coins, while not following minor changes and usability issues. We'll need some time to review everything that has been contributed so far across all the coins. At the moment we're busy with our reference code currency and another significant landmark for CryptoNote.

I've mentioned our vision of coin pluralism in the reply above. It is the part of our strategic vector and a matter of the whole platform. There will be a place for a robust CryptoNote coin, but it won't be ours.

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If you care about the education, how about making serious videos highlighting
different portions of the codebase and explaining how it differs from Bitcoin.

At the moment the site just shows how to make a superficial clone.
No doubt dozens of tiny moneros will show up on the market, since people's greed
will be stimulated by your step by step guide. Do you think that will
raise the profile of CryptoNote?

+1. Cryptonote source had ALREADY be opened. Smart users DID the forks anyway - Monero, Quasarcoin, etc. Why do you give chance to the 'stupid' users to EASILY do another 1000 shit-forks?!

I can not understand your motives, guys! Explain honestly please!

Upd2. And imagine you will create your 'educational' reference Cryptonote coin. Do you protect it from commercial trading, i.e. insert a block into the source, that prevents actual transfer to the exchange addresses? The block that protects against actually ANY coin transfer between addresses? To be the coin just educational?

As the posts above have stated, it just doesn't match the current situation to create yet a new coin for "educational purposes".
When you say "we'll merge all the best from all cryptonote coins, leaving out the useless", this sounds awefully like a marketing speach to me. There is no such thing as an absolute "best" and an absolute "useless" when judging aspects.

Perfectly pointed out! From one side, they speak about protection from commercial use of 'educational' coin. From another side, they speak about merging all the best features and bugfixes from any other existing cryptonote coins!

Cryptonote guy, explain us your unveiled motives!

I like that but there will be a lot of Monero screaming but-hurt.

It is only half correct. I've read all the thread, and I just feel irrational that something goes wrong...

If Cryptonote protocol creators do create their reference Commercial coin - we do forget Monero in 30 seconds.

If Cryptonote protocol creators do want to educate the people masses, they first have to attract celebrities cryptographic experts to verify Cryptonote whitepaper against full correctness, and reference source code against bugs.

As it was previously mentioned, reference Cryptonote source code had already been opened. The only opportunity Cryptonote technology creators just added, is easy fork wizard for thousands of stupid people to make their own shit-forks in 30 minutes rather than in 30 days.

Also I am confused about SSL cerificates that are not applied correctly to all the web sites owned by Cryptonote technology creators.

I believe that you Cryptonote guys have to either release your original commercial Cryptonote coin, or declare Monero to be the one. Stop footling about, we have serious work to do!

I wonder if this is a response to my post observing they never officially published their code:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747.msg7556314#msg7556314

Pretty nice investigating job, respect you. All this start to resemble a detective story.

Can anybody witness else confirm that "Cryptonote creators called bytecoin their reference implementation" in that time?

There are two possibilities:

1. As you proved in that thread, and as commonly known this days, Bytecoin had been hiddenly premined. So if some witnesses do confirm that Cryptonote creators (proven by SSL certificate) did call Bytecoin their reference implementation, it will completely disconsider Cryptonote creators.

2. Another possibility you mentioned, there are TWO groups of people among official Cryptonote creators, one group is honest, and other is disreputable. This hypotesis explains why the disreputable group of official Cryptonote creators that started shit-fork opportunity and this thread, does have access to SSL certificates of Cryptonote web-sites. And being disreputable, they can not sign NEW shit-fork-opportunity web-site correctly (may be they are working on it, but can not do it quickly).

So at this discussion point we MUST break at debug point, and demand for that Cryptonote creators group who started this thread AND launched shit-fork-opportunity web site, to prove us they are actually honest, thoroughly.

I don't agree with all your statements, but that statement is still there: https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11
That is where I found it, and as its in the forum, it may not be official, my bad.

Wow! See sibling discussion on their forum:

https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=220

We are not alone who are in hard doubt about Cryptonote creators' sincerity!

Also one can find from this new thread on their forum, that the new Cryptonote creators' group who started shit-fork-opportunity web site & this thread do STILL mention bytecoin as reference real-coin implementation, and they call new sources as official ones to fork purposes only (without built-in constants).

Also because new group did announce they to make reference 'educational' but real coin, other than Bytecoin or Monero, i.e. being Brand New real-world coin, the Cryptonote team apparently want to jump in a leaving train?..

Or I completely can not understand what happens :(

But I do not believe to Cryptonote team after all, and I like to believe to Monero team.

Is OP legit?  :D

Unfortunately things are not so simple - see my posts above that user cryptonote did prove some PART of he is somewhat belongs to official Cryptonote team.
May be internal team conflict?

I think so too. I think the whole cryptonote team wants mass adoption at whatever costs. But I think there are some elements of that team that want to make profit through mass adoption. In theory, nothing wrong with that. In practice, if this is made through a proxy such as bytecoin, it's done at the expense of the community.

One thing troubles me : they could make a lot of profit backing XMR as the market price is very small and the potential growth is enormous. Why dont they ? My hypothesis is that they want profit AND control over the coin they are backing.

Anyway, it's all stupid because at the moment only XMR is advancing towards that goal of mass adoption whereas the one hurting that goal are the designers of the technology.

It's already a politcal movement that looks a lot like bitcoin. It's a wonder such smart people can't see it - ah greed !

I agree. I fear that the move towards a thousand CryptoNote clones will simply dilute the market, a better idea would be to rally behind Monero and join the core team, in effect this creates a certain trajectory for CryptoNote and positions us for second place beside Bitcoin.

I really think this latest move in the CryptoNote world only serves to create more fear, uncertainty and doubt among CryptoNote enthusiasts and weakens all the CryptoNote coins at once.

Monero trolls FUD again. Why don't you show a bit of respect?

We're not surprised with your response.

First of all, I suggest you re-read our philosophy: https://cryptonote.org/inside.php#philosophy

CryptoNote mission is to provide you with the tools that could be used to subvert the paradigm and decentralize the international financial system. Such radical innovation should not be grown from within one center, it requires a lot of contributors to become a trend. We are concerned with strategic issues of the whole platform not a single coin, which is only a tiny part of the ecosystem that is being crafted at the moment. The advent of CryptoNote allowed to create first truly anonymous currencies, but the goal is to create a fair financial system.

We have stated it multiple times and I'm going to repeat it once again, we will never launch or maintain a real currency. We've opened this opportunity for the community to create and grow their own CryptoNote coins and let the market and developers teams decide which one is going to succeed and become the main CryptoNote currency. We're not jumping on this "train", we're working hard to create the rails for it and won't be lured away from our mission. That is why we are not going to specifically promote any of the existing currencies, and you have to face it.

Unfortunately, the community is using decentralized currencies but still operates within centralized financial system frame. While proponents of Bitcoin or any other particular currencies try to focus their efforts and create yet another centralized financial asset, we envision a much larger picture with a lot of co-existing cryptocurrencies, corporate currencies, private currencies, community currencies, niche currencies, etc. Consider Auroracoin and how it was proposed to educate Iceland on cryptocurrencies and create liquidity out of nowhere. This trend will be reinforced with more and more national and regional coins launching. A truly decentralized financial system requires a number of stable and fair currencies, not a single one.

According to our roadmap it is time for new CryptoNote currencies to emerge so that the whole CryptoNote platform becomes more stable and diversified. Apart form what I've mentioned above, this will also lead to more significant contribution from the community and much faster technology development. We're already working on the crypto protocol documentation to help you, but this will take some time. What you are largely misunderstanding is that CryptoNote is still relatively raw as the technology and requires more attention to gain momentum.

Having said that, CryptoNoteCoin will not be a sustainable coin. You can be sure that we know what we are talking about. Actual implementation may vary. For instance, genesis block will be changed everyone month, which will break the previously mined block chain. We'll also give a way a lot of the coin for free for the newbies to give CryptoNote a try and then move on to the currencies that you create or support.

And finally some specific questions:


CryptoNoteCoin will serve as the showcase for the whole technology. We'll maintain and update its source code to incorporate most prominent technology advancements. We'll also update usability from time to time, but wouldn't put too much emphasis on it.


Bytecoin won't be mentioned as the reference code by tomorrow. It did perfect job on the earlier stages, but it's time for us to make our own reference code.


You are really amazing at finding conspiracy and hidden motives. I promise you that tomorrow you will learn something awesome.

P.S. SSL certificate will be fixed.

To the moon!

Imo the only cure you can find for that is the time. Time will change the situation, time will bring more people to your technology and time will crush slave-providing financial system

The only time can do nothing. The goddamn current financial system could not be destroyed without people's support. So, guys from CryptoNote. If there is a God, i'm sure that he blessed you a years ago!

^This :)

What's up with the overwhelming negative response?

The guys share their knowledge with everyone who's interested and what they get in return is some BS about SSL certificate and ulterior motives.

Can we please stay more on-point? The topic is creating forks based on CN tehnology, not deducing why it isn't legitimate. If you feel that OP is trying to scam people, you are free to provide arguments, instead of creating more FUD where there is enough already. Alternatively you can always just stay out of a thread you don't like: it's that easy!

You shouldn't be so fast, you know? There are a lot of discussion thread and dialogs here that can easily let us understand that "XMR engine" isn't so clean. Somebody believe that monero devs just stole their technologies, but anyway - they failed on the mass adoption way

Nobody failed, and nobody succeeded on the mass adoption way, in the world of cryptonote. This is just too early.
But I hardly believe creating dozens of copy-coins with slightly different numbers is going to help mass adoption of anything.
Do you think that something like http://www.coingen.io/ ever brought anything useful?

I'm really disgussed by 99% of the alt-coin world with useless copy-cats and so little innovation, so much greed and so little normal open-source spirit cooperation, etc. I find it sad that cryptonote is apparently taking that way. Since that makes me sad, I wonder what are the motives behind, this is a legitimate reaction.

The problem with altcoins is, effectively they are all fighting for hashrate. This is bad as it makes every network kind of insecure, the more coins are out the more hashrate is spread around them, in the end noone of those networks is secure.
So - it makes absolutely no sense to put out x coins especially when they use the same proof of work, theres absolutely no way to secure a small coin with a small hashrate.
Auroracoin was mentioned earlier as an example and that is the worst example you can take, there is simply no way a bunch of icelandic people can secure the  blockchain against a malicous attacker.

Look at this: http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/auroracoin
They dont even have 1 ghash nethash, that means 3x KNC Miner Titan could 51% attack them easily.
Dogecoin is also a nice example, they had more hashrate than Litecoin and could effectively damage them if they wanted to.

This is my point, why this move is somewhat akward and dangerous.

PS: i currently consider only Bitcoin and maybe Litecoin as secure when it comes to that point.

What made you change your mind and stand on bytecoin? Why now?

This is a very interesting.
Great idea of first anonymous currency, i'm sure it will finalize in the near future that will dispel any our doubts.

Yea, it does. This is a stupid ass move.

Well, competitiveness is always good especially for coins. Let's see what will be later. Good luck, guys!

As for me, I have been satisfied by the answer above. Now I understand your motives quite a lot. You mentioned, "Unfortunately, the community is using decentralized currencies but still operates within centralized financial system frame." This is true. But our frame originate from the fact we do not understand Cryptonote technology in details. We can not prove whether it is mathematically correct or not by ourselves. That's why I suppose it were better if you attracted celebrities experts in computer cryptography to prove it. For example, you might do a print in a reviewed scientific journal.

Then, you mentioned that you will explain cryptonote protocol in details, it just takes a time. Why don't you start from this point? Then you might declare github source for fork purposes only, and we might understand your motives more smoothly.

Can you discover us your roadmap to the future? What about blockchain bloating problem? Or how does Cryptonote protect againt double spend in case of 51% attack?

In the past 2 1/2 months 7 cryptonote coins have been introduced.  Is this pace too slow for you?  At this rate there will be there will be 25 by the end of the year.  Is this not enough for development purposes?

Thank you for your answears Cryptonote.

CryptoNote to my best understanding is a raw specification. Blockchain bloat is an issue of a specific implementation. It depends on how an implementation works. BoolBerry seems to have a solution to reduce the size of the blockchain already

>> Or how does Cryptonote protect againt double spend in case of 51% attack
Have you read the same topic on CryptoNote forum?

My concern over CryptoNote team is that they are shady as hell. They say this project is for education but their actions seem to be different. not transparent at all.

I believe that XMR and BBR are the leading coins, no matter what CryptoNote team does. Developers behind XMR and BBR have good understanding of CryptoNote specs already.

Now I feel you are likely a honest person...

Indeed few mistakes you did. First, you have to describe Cryptonote algorithm & protocol in details, may be in pseudo-code, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sha256
as example format.

May be you should prepare the whole wiki site for Cryptonote.

Then you should make an article in scientific journal.

And after wiki & article, you may release fork opportunity (you have done it first by mistake).

*** So, we all first wait for you to fix SSL certificate issues! Doing this you will prove your authority and recover your sincerity. ***

Will this reference implementation fix the scalability issues?

I believe that CryptoNote team has designed a great solution for transaction privacy. Scalability is not what they focus on. Please assign that task to XMR and BBR developers

To a degree yes but as explained above in the alt world its not always the case.

Competitiveness between different algo's, features and distribution methods is good and that is what you get between completely different alts. However competitiveness in the form of a load of clones with basically the same algo, features and distribution methods is NOT a good thing. As explained the strength of a coin is on its network and all a load of greedy shitclones do is dilute the hashing power making every network less secure. All that for no reason other than greed and feeling you missed the boat.

I still can't make my mind up on the motivation of the cryptonote team who seem to me to have been divided. They profess to want to move the technology forward but I cannot see how providing basically a fill in the variables reference implementation that allows people who didnt have the skills before to create their own CN to do so. This is one of the reasons there are so many shitcoins based on common coins with shit devs who have never coded in their life and cannot do any real development. IMO the cryptonote team should be doing all it can to focus on the privacy technology and releasing that as and when, what way they choose to do that would be up to them but I believe the way this has come about makes me question the true motives.

I get a virus warning when clicking on "http://cryptonotestarter.org" ...

Works fine for me in Chrome & Tor.

What kind of virus?

Avast reports:

object: hxxp://146.0.43.70/
infection: URL:Mal


edit: using chrome

If I ignore everything said and look at what is done I see a CN field with three main participants. The XMR team, BBR team and the CN team. I follow XMR and I am active within BBR. I see these two teams very actively trying to be #1. XMR and BBR point out each others weaknesses and borrow each others code.

Then there is CN team. After 2+ years in obscurity, they (along with BCN) let themselves be known. Why after 2 years did they become public within weeks of each other?

Most of the CN clones have the same release/die off cycle. They get released with one changed parameter (emission, merged-mine, block time, meme) and silence from the developer. The developer posts that something is coming then disappears for another week. The grammar and cryptic messages are always similar.

1 + 1 = ?

1 + 1 = 1

Same person? Remove all the proper names. You can't tell the difference between CN, bitmonero, quazar, fantom, etc. Every person has their own writing style except for the devs of these coins.

So what? Of course you can find some common tends but it's happening because of scammy devs, not because of CryptoNote team.

Man, this forum is full of scams but i want to ask you only one thing. If you are talking with some guy or girl and he isn't agree with you or he wanna troll you it doesn't mean that he is a scam of working for scams. Maybe he just a nice guy who have a mood for trolling or he thinks that you are an idiot. But

Who cares?

Avast is one of the worst antivirus app ever made. It's my opinion sir and it's based on one epic moment when avast decided that some of my win7 files are viruses too.

I agree. You shoudn't use him.

But i also don't want to write off-topic posts so that's why the main idea of my message is that i really want to wish this project a really good luck! We need more altcoins nowadays to stay alive and support the market economy between different currencies!

Look at the profiles of the last five posters. Created in last 2 months. Start posting in off-topic/politics. Only post about CN coins, never about other coins.

Yeah .. the same type of horde was presented in the BCN thread, and also were heavily present around the shift from the BMR to MRO thread. Sockpuppets are a common occurrence in all of these threads. OFC you can say the same about mine; however, I have only one active profile at a time .. not that it makes a difference but it would be pretty awkward for me to use multiple accounts simultaneously.

It's fun to speculate why they're around though. Either BCN promoters, CN promoters, paid marketing competition from another altcoin, paid competition from a totally alternative group perhaps not relating to any currency at all, someone just bored, anything really can fit .. the main theme that seems to be present for all of them is that they usually post highly suggestive, non-targeted, potentially offensive, comments designed to be mostly passed over -- but noticed (perhaps unconsciously) -- in order to cause general confusion without inciting an argument. There were also some in the DRK thread, but IIRC they usually just copied and pasted previous comments .. but it can't be confirmed whether or not these are the same people.

Personally I'm guessing just someone's subliminal advertising marketing group .. but who's to know? Best advice is to just know when they're around and, after recognition, give a factual answer if possible .. so that anyone else reading the comments doesn't get sucked into the trap.

They're most likely all shill/sockpuppet accounts created and used by one guy, especially cause you see one of them go offline, and the other goes online right after, aka PizzaTraveler is online now, and all others are offline. It's really pathetic, but that's how some people are.

By using your logic, at the moment right after btc-mike will go offline but you will stay on, i can say that you are the same guy, just because you are  online now, but the other guy is offline. *facepalm*

Stop this game, don't act like a little troll.

LOL - I just imagined darkota and I arguing on the other thread. But we were actually the same person.

I laughed there too. One thing I can't figure out though is that .. there's no restrictions besides time now for newbie accounts. You can literally post everywhere, but have a 360 second timer between posts. Why do these accounts all have the post count set so that's gone before they post anything substantial/more focused?

I'm guessing it's because most of them sign in from the same ip address .. so 360 seconds really starts to add up.

They said it's pretty much the code base of bytecoin plus boolberry and monero code added in. So once Monero fixes the scalability issues then the reference will have them inside.

I cannot understand how the CryptoNote team are making such a bad decision whilst also being very intelligent (making CryptoNote in the first place)

The bad decision is this: More clones mean more hashrate spread about thus making all the CryptoNote coins weaker. This is why Satoshi would never advocate hundreds of Bitcoin clones because it harms the overall security of Bitcoin.

The market can support perhaps a handful of coins, but any more and the hashrate dilution starts to seem more like an attack.

I must conclude that the current CryptoNote team are not the original mathematicians and programmers that created CryptoNote and in fact a newer group of people that have inherited the project. This new team are now advocating hashrate dilution that will make each CryptoNote coin more venerable.

There's only one way this can be opposed, the community must vote via their miners a market leader, thankfully Monero now has more hashrate than all the other CryptoNote coins combined and thus a leader has been chosen.

Remember guys and girls, hashrate is very important and not just academic, if all the CryptoNote coins had similar hashrates there could be no market leader as people would be wary of an attack. At the moment it seems that Monero is far more secure than all the other CryptoNote coins.

We should be against hashrate dilution, not advocating it as these "CryptoNote developers" advise.

When this team advocates something that reads like an attack on the security of the CryptoNote ecosystem you have to ask yourself, do these people have our best interests at heart? I say they don't, this move is so immature and dangerous, the only conclusion is that they are not the original creators of CryptoNote but rather a later set of people that have inherited the project and are misinformed.

The monero team is the most active, and they have academics reviewing the code and white paper, they are being more responsible towards CryptoNote than this original team.

When a new clone comes out i just mine it for a day or two before i keep mining what i know is a serious coin, wait for like 10 days for a market to accept it, dump it and then buy with the BTC  i gained the serious one ;)

Coins with nothing new, zero dev support and zero community will just wither or may do small spike before they die...People that mine such just wait for this spike if ever comes and have time to dump. In reality they mostly lose time and money by mining those instead of serious one. I even consider my second day of mining too much...

Ah Dogecoin...if it ever did something it is giving hopes for people to mine whatever shit they find...

One of my favorite speculations is that Bytecoin/BetaNote/Cybernote/Cryptonote are all ripoffs of yet another main currency that has yet to surface.

For a little background:

Cryptonote was the name of the project on the first .onion site, with no mention of bytecoin anywhere. go look at the reddit dstrange put together and look for the screen cap w/ green letters.

Bytecoin was the name of the same project on the .com site, now calling the project that name instead of taking cryptonote as the name (though they still managed to miss the name of the project as 'cybernote' in the readme file -- even after two years of putting it together)

Betanote is claimed by Catherine Irwin to be the name of the project before it was bytecoin/cryptonote. I would guess this would just be the beta version. But that's a catch in itself, because if there was a beta version for testing -- it would imply that there was no need to hide the project for two years (from claimed aggressors) as was originally claimed by one/both of the groups.

Cybernote was a possible typo name in the github when the project first surfaced. It can easily be speculated that this was, at one point, the name of the/a project. Who ever remembers readme's anyways?

Now we have Bytecoin/cryptonote project merging code that breaks their wallets .. awkward, and a cryptonote site that's pressing rather insanely for both merge mining and infinite forks.

Only wild speculation can exist at this point, but with all the variables present .. i'm sure it can take you pretty far.

Really all I do know is that this isn't how reasonable people act, historically. Something's dead wrong here, and I don't really care what it is. As you've said, Monero's the market leader right now. Boolberry's there too, though a little more distant .. the market is speaking volumes about all of this .. and it's saying that it's more than a little worried about whatever past this protocol has had to the point where it's willing to put the future of this protocol into the hands of those that did not birth it into the world. I agree with the market, and think that this is the best chance for the continued survival of this protocol.

I think that CryptoNote was pretty clear with their point. They want more coins so that the whole platform takes off due to internal competition. Just reflect on your own reaction, once threatened with diluted hash rate, you start to call on the supporters around your coin. So ultimately, this seems to be working exactly according to CryptoNote's plan.

I might not be getting all the strategic stuff they've posted and might not share their vision, but still I think that CryptoNote is pretty consistent with their strategy. They want the whole platform to advance, not a certain coin. They deny that they'll launch their coin (and as of now it is written forever in the web and can be linked to if CN digresses from its vision).

In my opinion, CryptoNote is doing something much more important than trying to make a quick buck. It's a shame that XMR supporters are so obsessed with their coin and hash rate that they deny strategic development. Come on guys, you do have the highest hash rate, but it is 80% botnets. What's the point in trying to secure a rotten apple? CryptoNote is trying to change the world, while you are interested in your investment payoff. That's puny and unworthy.

So what coin would you support? You have to support some coin.

pretty much agreed.

But currency aims likewise should not detract from CN itself: its devs have put in such an insane amount of work and there are considerably easier ways to make a quick bit of cash. Consistency of strategy also points to this.

I would even suggest that some of the more unsavory talk on this forum when it comes to coin wars was assumed by CN - competition is competition after all, and communities will want to silence the criticism by demonstrating real progress, which in turn allows coins with real talent behind them to become more credible for everyone's benefit.

I disagree with you.

Hal Finney said that if a CryptoCoin that had no real advantage over Bitcoin and were to overtake the value of Bitcoin it would create a disastrous situation where all the CryptoCoins would lose their value. His reasoning was that if investors (1) saw that another coin can overtake Bitcoin, based on hype and manipulation alone it would call into question "can any type of faith based currency (2) actually be a store of value".

This store of value is important because many projects die fast if people are not committed to their security, maintenance and continue research and development. If the "store of value" idea was to be undone via a clone without true merit and reason to exist, the investors would be unwilling to invest in the clone because the precedent has now been set that any clone on hype alone will eradicate their investment. As people stop investing their money into miners or buying the coin itself, people see their value fall and begin to stop investing the most important asset in the world, their time. Once time stops being invested into a project the project ceases to exist.

This has nothing about making a quick buck. I don't invest in alternative coins often and only moved onto Monero because I saw merit. However if Monero were to fall due to clones that offer very small incremental changes to the code, then I would be a fool to invest my time, money and energy into that competitor because I know the precedent has been set, another coin will be along shortly to ruin that coin, with small incremental changes. This is the crux of Hal Finney's argument.

Only coins that offer a massive advantage over the other market participants should be able to take value from a market leader, because that functionality is really adding a true addition to the marketplace. Obviously Bytecoin fills this role, however due to the 80% premine it was automatically unsuitable to be the market leader for a CryptoNote coin, Monero was born to be the restart of the unfair premine. Monero's first and vital innovation is one of the marketplace, Monero offered the first public release of a CryptoNote coin that was not premined.

This is the crux of my argument; if there are thousands of CryptoNote clones all fighting each other for market share, with no clear leader, where does the investor park his energies and capital? Without a growing capital base the developers leave to better pastures. Under the current vision of the CryptoNote "team" they are in fact creating a rotten apple, a confused market with no clear leader. It's a mess.

Up until Monero I saw a future of about three true market participants; Bitcoin, Ethereum and a Storage based coin. However it is entirely reasonable that Ethereum will also be that storage based coin.

Monero adds onto that list as the fourth participant.

(1) [Miners and people who buy the coin are both investors]

(2) [All CryptoCoins are faith based, they rely on the will of the people to maintain value, rather than a Government taking control and manipulating the market to keep prices at a set standard]

Even if Monero is, as you say, supposed to 'take on' Bytecoin, who's to say that there can't be a coin made to overtake both of them, theoretically speaking? Cryptonote's genius is as an enabler - to introduce an environment where users are in no doubt that any innovation is possible, if they have the skill to implement it.


I would say that this is the essence of CryptoNote's philosophy: to create a level playing field where any coin is given the potential to become a leader - an environment where anyone will be able to compete for the lead position.

The playing field is level, the code is all open source. Anyone who has the skills can currently fork a CN coin as has been done. The issue is with 100's on uninnovative implementations which is possible with "noob forking guides" and devs with no skill at all. Im sorry but if you think that 10's or 100's of slightly tweaked reference implementations is good for anyone then you mistaken. Yes competition is good and anybody who has the ideas and the skills to implement them will be able to do so already without the cryptonote team babying people to do it. This is why the motive question has been thrown out there and most of what drawinginthesun aludes to makes perfect sense.

 Perhaps if you countered the actual arguments you might have more listeners.

Drawinginthesun gives many reasons why lots of the same coin isn't good, arguments such as this "Only coins that offer a massive advantage over the other market participants should be able to take value from a market leader" and "However if Monero were to fall due to clones that offer very small incremental changes to the code, then I would be a fool to invest my time, money and energy into that competitor because I know the precedent has been set, another coin will be along shortly to ruin that coin, with small incremental changes." need more response than they're just trying to create a level playing field.

What do you even mean here? These are open-source projects. Apart from that .. what are they enabling? Innovation? I'll take two examples: merge mining, and i2p integration.

The environment for merge mining is highly clamored; however, the mention of i2p was in fact bashed. Cryptonote has nothing to do with enabling innovation, you don't need their permission or support for it. How do you think their presence in any way spurs innovation? People could simply fork this without them, due to being open source .. so where are you going with this?


I would point out that the CN philosophy is simply that of a cheerleader, not the creator of this playing field. They cheer for the currencies that would have been on the field regardless of their presence at all. This is more in line with their vision -- they're not a government and they don't make laws.

CryptoNote's genius, is coming up with a concept and contributing some code according to them. Apart from that, it was the Bytecoin/Cybernote/Betanote website that provided the bulk of the source code. It is their genius that is as an enabler -- not CryptoNote in the sense that you put forth. CN hasn't maintained a repo until this thread.

It's true - perhaps it's easy to forget that nothing has fallen apart. Innovation is being unveiled and progress from CN coins is happening, with positive consequences.


I would just take the perspective that as a concept, CN is working and producing results which are not just admirable but exciting as well, and we should take a level-headed, embracing attitude to developments while there is still no evidence to the contrary.

CryptoNote has updated its official repository to include the testnet tool for those who are building a new CryptoNote currency.

The testnet is your sandbox for the currency's and network's sustainability before the launch or prior to a major update. Generally, you wouldn't want to roll out a feature, which might jeopardize user experience or network health.

The new CryptoNote testnet tool ignores the real network by skipping its checkpoints and peer lists. It also generates a new genesis block on startup. By doing so you create a new block chain for your network which can be used for testing purposes. This can also be useful for pool owners deploying a new feature related to mining, since their own testnet doesn't have external miners to compete with for the blocks during the tests.

1. After compiling the binaries you should start the daemon with the "--testnet" and "--data-dir" arguments:

--testnet argument forces daemon to start a new testing network.
--data-dir argument should be different from the default folder so that the testnet doesn't interfere with the real network's block chain and peer pools. When you launch a new testnet, be sure to provide it with a new folder.

2. Launching simplewallet requires only the "--testnet" argument to connect to the testnet daemon:


3. In case you need to create a testnet that consists of more than 1 node, you should connect each next daemon to the previously launched testnet through the "--add-exclusive-node" argument:



Links to the repository and the forking guide:
https://github.com/cryptonotefoundation/cryptonote
https://cryptonotestarter.org

Original discussion: https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=234&p=791#p791

CryptoNote has launched its official reference implementation: CryptoNoteCoin.
The currency is the showcase for CryptoNote technology and the educational coin for the new users.

It is designed to have no economic value. The emission will take 2 months, followed by the genesis block relaunch.

The announcements:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686485.
https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=231

The official CryptoNote repository has been updated to include smart genesis block creation. Previously, it was required to comment and uncomment some parts of the source code. With our new currency creation flow, genesis block coinbase tx hash is created as follows:

1) Follow the forking guide (https://cryptonotestarter.org/inner.html) and define all the parameters for your currency except for GENESIS_COINBASE_TX_HEX in /src/cryptonote_config.h. You should leave it blank:


2) Compile the binaries.

3) Start the daemon with the --print-genesis-tx argument:


The daemon will print out the genesis block coinbase transaction hash.

4) Insert the printed out tx hash to GENESIS_COINBASE_TX_HEX in src/cryptonote_config.h


5) Recompile the binaries. You are now ready to announce (https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7) and launch your coin.

Links to the repository and the forking guide:
https://github.com/cryptonotefoundation/cryptonote
https://cryptonotestarter.org/inner.html#genesis

Original discussion: https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=220&p=806#p806

A new article about CryptoNote platform:
http://www.coinspeaker.com/2014/07/23/cryptonote-toolkit-truly-anonymous-untraceable-cryptocurrencies/

(also at: http://bitcoinviews.com/cryptonote-a-toolkit-for-truly-anonymous-and-untraceable-cryptocurrencies/)

I was trying to find how to define address prefixes (like in XDN or Cryptonotecoin), but couldn't find any tools for that. Here's my solution. You may add the following code lines to any of existing Cryptonote coins (as Cryptonote forking repo won't compile due to empty constants).

1) Update CMakeList.txt:


2) Add a new file /src/prefixgenerator.cpp


3) Compile the updated repo

4) Run the util with the desired prefix:

or get all possible prefixes and grep the one you need:


What the util does is trying every possible input to get you the prefix you wish to have. I hope this will help someone.

Interview with Catherine Erwin from CryptoNote:
http://bitcoinbarbie.com/cryptonote-open-source-technology-concept/ (June 2014)

We are offering you to get some CryptoNoteCoins for free.

You can use them in educational purposes to test our possibilities. CryptoNoteCoin fulfills the same functions as the regular coins. But remember that all coins will be emitted in 2 month and after that new genesis block will be generated.

Just enter your CryptoNoteCoin address in the special form called "Get free coins" on our website. (http://cryptonote-coin.org)

Thank you for your contribution! Your solution should be working, but it doesn't suit CryptoNote Starter repo well as it is quite complicated. Hence, we've implemented address prefix generator on https://cryptonotestarter.org/tools.html

You may also find calculator for your coin emission speed compared to bitcoin's emission.

https://i.imgur.com/4PwU1gM.png
https://i.imgur.com/CNE12Ro.png

[XMR] [BCN] Multiple wallet monitor for all cryptonote coins:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=718928.msg8121234#msg8121234

CryptoNote Starter has a new section added. The "Knowledge base" covers all the basics of operating CryptoNote currency in addition to the forking guide. Currently, the sections covered are:

• general binaries overview
• testnet
• payment processing
• mining pool deployment

New articles will be published based on the community requests.

Please, let us know what you think.

Link to the knowledge base: https://cryptonotestarter.org/kb/

Despite my initial misgivings, I now think you're
doing a great job.

My argument would be similar to Hal's, but I'd take it a step further and perhaps come to a different conclusion (since I haven't seen Hal's original comments in context I don't know his conclusion).

Yes, it would be disastrous if a hype-based clone were to overtake a preexisting leader, but only by having such coins try to do it and fail is the value of the leader convincingly demonstrated. If clones are impeded by barriers to entry (for example by technical or knowledge barriers) and one can only speculate about whether a hype-based coin could overtake the leader, then the leader's value will always be impaired.

tldr: the more shitcoin clones fail, the more value accrues to the leader.

+1 agree

uhhhm WHY ?

why would you pretty much create a coin and then tell people to clone it ?

wouldn't be so bag holders have a fresh new coin to pump and dump would it ?

Perhaps there are more flaws/backdoors hidden in the code base waiting to be found/exploited.

really ? seriously ? that is you retort ?
ahhh jeez i just don't even know what to say  ::)  ::)  ::)

yea, that was a pathetic post. i will do better next time. ;)

yeah !
saying you need to keep making and posting clone coins in an effort to find "Bugs" is bloody nonsense..
and why did the OP not mention that is why Cryptonote exists ?

so hmmm lets think here for a second.. are new clone coins put out to find bugs ?
or are they put out so they can be pumped and dumped ?
What do you think BitcoinTalk ?

Where is the "Start forking" button ? ..you mean on the OP's first post ?

And hey was Monero the first clone or what ?
also is there a list of all the coins that have come out ?
i seen a merge mining pool that listed a whole crap load of these cryptonote clones ..including MONERO.
but i'm wondering how many more there are etc..
once they dump out the monero on their victims they will jump to another clone so i want to be able to keep tabs on the Shill team !

oh and does the guide cover pumping and dumping and Shilling your clone coin at Bitcointalk forums ?
lemme guess step is one call everyone a Troll that won't give you their Bitcoin right ?
this is all i see..

Section 1a) Cloning and changing source code to hide your scam.
Section 1b) Changing source code in phases for plausible denial.
Section 1c) Grooming your victims.
Section 2a) Accusing critics of FUD and highlighting "community"
Section 2b) Ponzi + Multilevel marketing theory - crypto coins basic concepts
Section 2c) Shilling, hype, advertising, spamming
Section 2d) Dummy account creation + Trolling
Section 3a) The pump and dump
Section 3b) Silencing & Discrediting your complaining victims
Section 4a) Posting fake news about Markets, Shares, Anon features and other misc gimmicks or "i wuz haxed" claims
Section 4b) Harrasing victims for bitcoin until they submit with bully tactics on forums and on irc.
Section 4c) Lying defense tactics (the liar calling the critic a liar circle jerk "i know you are but what am i" game)
Section 5a) Starting it all over again and taking more coveted Bitcoin from your old victims

http://i61.tinypic.com/2mpa4qv.jpg

Dude you should really chill out with Monero, kind of an obsession.  :)

Monero is an attempt to use the cryptonote tech by people that are *not* part of the cryptonote foundation (or bytecoin scammers, or whatever you call them).
Most of the monero community would agree with you that the forking guide advertised in this thread is bullshit.
It is most likely an attempt to undermine all existing cryptonote coins (mostly monero) by creating a flood of copycats, so later the cryptonote foundation (or bytecoin scammers, or whatever you call them) could come up with a new coin that they could control.

obsession ? am i the one jamming it down everyone throats non stop 24/7 ?

i only took notice of their antics because i thought it was strange how this nobody / noob came out of nowhere
with the most popular coin topic on this whole forum.

i started noticing for a long loooong time that the "reptiele altcoin observer" topic was being pushed to the top constantly.. which is odd !
ANY time i came here it was the 3rd or 4th topic from the top at all times 24 hours a day, everyday !
And i clicked on it after ignoring it 100% for a loooooong time and what do i see ?

The guy pushing Monero saying how Monero was his FIRST altcoin.. on the 2nd sentence and then a giant wall of text about HIS forum rules etc..
And i thought well jeez that is messed up.. why does this noob nobody have a topic that has already 230 pages of replies on it ?
and who does this noob think he is coming here with his own insane set of forum rules ?

Who is this noob and WTF is going on around here ?
Then the more i look the more i see a rotation of (self-moderated) Monero advertisement topics being rotated / bumped onto page one by the same group of guys.
They have been running a circle jerk campaign of spamming around here for a loooong time.. trying to be sneaky and play dumb about it all.

We simply can't ignore these Monero Shills because they are bending over backwards jamming it down our throats non stop !
They just won't shut up.. not for a minute.

They are trying to strong arm bully this Forum with their self moderated topics..
That repilte "noob" observer guy posted this..


THIS part below is rather interesting don't you all think ?

This thread is devoted to the CryptoNote technology and forking process questions only. We would kindly ask you to refrain from further off-topic flame posts.

Where do you set the initial difficulty?

Where is genesis block chain stored?

That was pretty funny Spoetnik but you should have photoshopped in our names under the characters pics.

Also, can someone give a quick summary of the process needed to create a new cryptonote genesis block. Thanks.

ya good idea not sure i will though i am lazy..

and OP.. use test net ?
explain to me why you need to create a pile of forks / clones to find bugs ?

i was not flaming or trolling in the slightest and i asked questions and they were ignored.. good job hiding.

your attempt to discredit me and what i said earlier failed.
it's not about me is it ?
it's about cryptonote and i asked questions about Cryptonote of you actually read what i asked..
so i ask you to refrain from discussing me on the forum and stick to the topic of coins please.

i bet i will get the BFL answer..
Testnet does not make us money LOL
that was what BFL Asic company said when a staff member asked the boss why they don't burn in on TestNet.

so be a man grow some balls and own up to your clone coin posting here and answer the questions.
a full list of all the Cryptonote clones would be a good start.. AND who made them.. did you make any of them ?

I would like to be on the picture but I'm French so Spoetnik would have to change the flag in the background.

Very funny anyway.

i think the funny part is the questions i asked ignored.. par for the course around here.

anon name changers scared ..hiding.

and that sounds like a lot of work ...i am lazy :(

Spoetnik, i was today on Cryptonote forum and saw they made an account on this forum and actually today first time read this thread. On your last question that basicly BTC-Mike lead you to it is simple answer. Well unless you believe in conspiracies as most here does anyway.

It seems crypto note questions are not answered here.

Well Spoetnik question was not cryptonote question. But why they gave this technology for everyone to make a cryptonote coin. If you belive their words it makes sense. But there still is question who they are.
Most BBR and XMR community will say, they are connected with Bytecoin and also with other Cryptonote coins. But can also not be true. Yes they said they worked close with Bytecoin in past, but when Bytcoin focused strictly on their coin, they parted.

What bothers me most is if all what they say is true and i more and more believe it. Who are they? Just random people that love their hobby or some organization that hate centralized world. Maybe one day no one will ask who Satoshi was, but who Cryptonote team was.

1. CN devs actually believe their own spiel, want to broaden adoption and understanding of CN coins. Not entirely implausible.

2. CN devs are attempting to dilute the market of all their cloners, possibly prior to releasing a new coin or new features of their own, as they're still the only ones that actually understand the code. Might have the desired effect and costs nothing.

3. Someone else other than the CN devs is pulling #2. This was my first thought. ;)

4. This is the long awaited 'solution' to the bloatchain - instead of a few big ones, have dozens of smaller ones. No idea.

5. This is prep for a ScamNet style vapourware cross-chain multiphase paradigm warp topology telepod meta-CN 2.0 IPO/ICO/CFC/WTF. You know it's only a matter of time.

It is not that easy to create a cryptonote from this website, i have been there even it take weeks to get reply from their forum and you will hardly get assistance from the forum member.

Monero is #2 in terms of coding at the moment, but it catches fast.

Today we’ve updated CryptoNote Foundation repository (https://github.com/cryptonotefoundation/cryptonote) with 1.0.2 update which includes a lot of improvements to API, network and much more.

Read full news here: https://cryptonote.org/news/2015/4/23/cryptonote-reference-code-update-1-0-2

CryptoNote reference code release notes 1.0.2

- Multisignature with API

Multisignatures provides user with a possibility to create an address associated with several (M) owners. In order to access funds on this address one would have to provide  N (of M) signatures under the different keys. It also enables convenient way to  create trustless services such as escrow (2 of 3 sigs) or web-wallet (2-of-2).

- Low level API

Updated Low level API provides users with a possibility to easily operate a transaction creation process: select inputs for a transaction, contains various methods for transaction signing.

- High level API improvements

This update have increased the modularity of high level API. It is now separated in three different modules: INode, IWallet and ITransaction. API is now much faster and much more stable than before, supports ordinary and multisignatures transactions.

- Updated block reward scheme

Before this update penalty was imposed only to block reward and now it’s imposed to both block reward and commission.

- Dynamic maximum block size limit

This feature was introduced to protect blockchain from bloating.

- Instant transaction pool notifications

Instant transaction pool notifications provide user with a possibility to find out their locked amount as soon as transaction is sent, not when it is included into the block.

- Transaction priority based on tx fee

Bitcoin-like feature, the more your commission is the faster your transaction will be included into the block.

- Transactions are returned from tx pools after 24 hours

To ensure that transaction pool won’t bloat out of proportion, all transactions that has been in the tx pool for 24h (and were not included into any block) will be removed and funds returned to the owners.

- Fully refactored simplewallet

New version of simplewallet, built on updated High level API - serves as a showcase of what new API can do.

- Transaction history for simplewallet

Updated transaction history for simplewallet, now it shows much more information about the transaction you’ve sent, such as: fee, block index, unlock time, timestamp etc.

- Reset command for simplewallet

Reset command allows user to reload the data from a Node. This will allow users to unlock their outputs in case their transaction wasn’t included into the block and was sent back to them.

- Faster wallet refresh

Faster communications between wallet and daemon. Including faster synchronization with daemon and other various improvements.

- Further optimization in daemon RAM consumption

This update brings less RAM consumption to CryptoNote. Now users will be able to start CryptoNote-forked coins even on a low RAM PCs’ without any difficulties.

- Config and CryptoNote forking how-to update

More detailed and comprehensive instructions on how to fork CryptoNote, establish a config that is the most suitable for you and finally launch your CryptoNote currency.

Greetings,

Today is a big day for CryptoNote technology and every coin that is based on it. CryptoNote reference code repository (https://github.com/cryptonotefoundation/) has been updated with an additional submodule called “cryptonotewallet” (https://github.com/cryptonotefoundation/cryptonotewallet).

This step marks a start of new era. Every CryptoNote coin will be able to have a GUI wallet with all necessary features on its start. As a prototype to the first CryptoNote GUI wallet, we’ve used Bitcoin QT. As a well-known solution: simple yet familiar to all cryptocurrency users interface was transformed to suit CryptoNote needs.

Here is a preview of a new wallet:

https://i.imgur.com/1IkI8E8.png

As you can see, we didn’t change Bitcoin QT interface. Start screen contain all necessary information: balance, unconfirmed balance, number of transactions and recent transactions.

“Send coins” and “Receive coins” tabs will allow you to transfer your funds to any destination you want. Your address is located on “Receive coins” screen. Also, we’ve made some small changes to the Send coins screen compared to Bitcoin QT.

Please note: your wallet is not encrypted upon creation. You should encrypt your wallet through Settings menu > Encrypt Wallet.

https://i.imgur.com/kufrA8i.png

Transactions screen will show you transaction that you’ve sent and received and “Address book” will help you deal with a big CryptoNote addresses in most effective way possible.

https://i.imgur.com/gnNSVeA.png

We are confident that CryptoNote GUI Wallet will help every CryptoNote coin in particular and CryptoNote environment in general.

When all the data and settings command "make" in the src folder, run the coin, and simplewallet.
Then say:

Do we need to install something on peer node which we use for P2P communication? In the cryptostarter guide, nothing is mentioned on this.

I would like to know where that code is and was originally so that I can work on a clone/fork that didn't have the more advanced method. aka  --print-genesis-tx..

I haven't been able to find any documentation on creating the genesis block by the method it was created before that method was added to the code.

How to fix this error?
_{ERROR   Could note get research public key
ERROR   Could note get nbr project public key
ERROR   Could note get research public key
ERROR   Could note get nbr project public key}

Nov 2018 - The CryptoNote algorithm appears dead.

The Van Kush Family Project will be Creating a Mining Pool ASAP, we are not in a Situation to begin this Currently, but over the Next Few Weeks a lot of Thing should Change where we are much Better Situated.

I wanted to have this here, because we will be making a Cryptonote Mining Pool, then as we Teach People to make Hive-Engine/TribalDEX Currencies, we will also Encourage them to make ETH Clones and Cryptonotes, and we will have the CryptoNote Pool Ready, as well as our Own CryptoNote that they can Mine.

We will have a Community of Mining Pools and Currencies, all Hosting themselves on HIVE, BLURT and STEEM. A Renaissance of Blockchain, as if it was 2012 or 2014 or Whatever again and for some Reason it is like that because no one Ever Learned any of this and now we are Basically Starting Over. But Bitcoin is there in the Background like a Guillotine waiting to do what Markets do, just Change and Change.