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Last Tuesday President Obama got off the helicopter

in front of The White House – carrying a baby piglet

under each arm.

 

The squared-away Marine guard snapped to attention,

saluted and said: "Nice pigs, sir."

 

The President snapped back indignantly: "These are not pigs. These are

authentic Arkansas Razorback Hogs. I got one for my

wife, Michelle, and I got one for Nancy Pelosi."



The squared-away Marine again snapped to attention,

saluted and said, "Excellent trade, sir."

Very nice.  Sadly some people won't get it even after reading it 3 or 4 times.

So where is the making fun of the president?

You know, that sound just like the way liberals used to trash Laura Bush and Condi Rice, calling them (har har!) pigs....   Oh, wait....it's not.

See, the Marine thought Obama meant that he traded...oh never mind...obviously over your head......Rigon

Ah, so the humor was about the marine, not the president, or the first lady, or Rep. Pelosi.  Thanks for clearing that up.. . Sadly, but not unexpectedly way over my head...  >:(

See, the Marine thought Obama meant that he traded...oh never mind...


That's a very stupid marine.   But not as stupid as Sana's explanation...no offense sana 

Let's hear your explanation of the joke, ..   

it's the amusement of the word play.

Here, maybe this will help.

Army Major walks into a bathroom off base and there's a sailor taking a leak.

Sailor finishes and prepares to leave, without washing his hands.

Major raps out, "Sailor! In the army, they teach us to wash our hands after we use the latrine."

To which the sailor replies,

"Sir, yes sir! In the navy, sir, they teach us not to piss on our hands, SIR!"

Get it, lol, lol, the unexpected response?

No?

How about this one.

The Earl of Sandwich to John Wilkes: "You, sir, shall die either by hanging or of some loathesome disease!" To which Wilkes responded, "that depends, milord, on whether I embrace your principles, or your mistress."

bah ha ha

get it now?

No?

I give up. You're just a lost cause. Here's a nickel, go buy a sense of humor.

I have a wonderful sense of humor, and this was no simple unexpected response.  (boy, is that marine ever dumb, ha. ha.)

Was it about a marine's stupidity  No...that's a false claim as well.   

What it was, was a lame attempt to equate Michelle Obama and Nancy Pelosi to pigs.  Something less than pigs; the pigs were a step up.

The 'joke' is offensive as hell.

That said, one wonders how appreciative of the wordplay the rightwing would be had it been George W trading the pigs for his two daughters. The Smirking Chimp and the Smirkettes...

That's okay.

The reason is that the joke plays on the apparent stupidity of the Marine focusing on the far stupider behavior of the Commander in Chief.

And it's not directed at kids, it's directed at grown adults - Michelle and Pelosi, who are equally worthy of being joked about.

The only innocents in the joke, for whom the comparisons are truly offensive, are the ....

...piglets...

You're damn right it's offensive.  Swine should never be equated with Nancy Pelosi... it's degrading to the pig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St8vksfTvWw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St8vksfTvWw)

Pelosi is not a pig.... she's a leech!  The she-devil in engorging on tax payer provided subsidies that go to her shell companies:
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/politics/capitol-assets/member/nancy-pelosi/ (http://apps.washingtonpost.com/politics/capitol-assets/member/nancy-pelosi/)

Good thing she is just like the rest of us 99%ers  ;)

What, you don't get a C5 arranged to pick you up and fly you to wherever you want whenever you want?

Actually I like the joke, but not idea who Nancy Pelosi is.

Liked it. I think the marine is rather witty, quick on his feet  :D

And has probably been offered in one form or another for 44 administrations.

How about the Republicans taunting Grover Cleveland about his illegitimate child,

"Ma ma, where's my pa!"

and which the Democrats countered,

"Gone to the White House, ha ha ha!"

Now how mean is that? Essentially, the Dems are telling the poor little illegitimate kid to fuck off.

Methinks there's just a little bit of broken jaw from the knee jerk reaction on your part. If I knew any jokes about broken jaws as a consequence of knee jerks, I'd tell it here, but...

Not knee jerking at all.  It's offensive and misogynist and goes along with the whole decade-long (for Pelosi, longer) sexist attacks on MO and Pelosi.  Their bodies, their hair, their hips, P's alleged facelift,  their "pushiness", their bossiness - don't know their place as proper women.

I hammer on it because I'm determined to get these aholes to admit to what they're finding "hilarious".  Noted:  they won't; they (now you) just object to my objection.

right.

Aardvark walks into a bar. Bartender says, "so, why the long face?"

See. You didn't even smile. Stoneface.

Sense of humor. Right.

Can't wait to see re-runs of Hillary's thick ankle jokes and close-ups of her wrinkles.

okay, look, to be honest, there is truth to the point that we on the left have done it to women on the right as well.Coulter, Bachmann, Palin, etc.

And it's not only the women. Look how Mike Huckabee, look how we ALL laughed at him and his ridiculous porky pig family, all dressed in clashing prison stripes, it was one of the funniest photos I've ever seen, the more so because it was real. And he was ripped mercilessly on this forum and amongst other Democrats.

For gods sake, jokes about presidents wives have been forever, as have jokes about the presidents own looks.

I get that you're our own Carrie Nation of women rights and respect. But somethings, honestly, are like Cnut and the tide: all the commands in the world isn't going to get it to stop, because like the tides, human nature is just human nature and we're always going to take pleasure in making fun of others looks, shapes, body sizes, etc. etc. What, after all, are caricatures themselves but making fun of characteristics that politicians have?
And how much different are Hillary's thick ankles and wrinkles than Taft's huge belly or Nixon's five clock shadow or ski slope nose? Herblock probably did more on his own than ANY Nixon hater to destroy the man, and did so virtually solely through pictures.

  This joke does not call them pigs.  The punch line is that the Marine assumed Obama traded them for the hogs.  It is political humor, not sexist humor...the same joke could be told using ANY combination of folks.
Here is the same joke using different people:



Clinton:  http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/jokes/bljokeclintonpigs.htm

And Bush: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2529238

And another Bush:  http://www.ebaumsworld.com/jokes/read/784437/


What is funnier is that you imagine yourself a champion of women when you have a looooooooooong history of seriously trashing conservative women.  Clean up your own act, and then something actually significant to whine about because with friends like you, women do not need enemies.

Point taken, and I'm not innocent of mocking attacks on politicians...but they have to be mockable in the first place for reasons beyond looks  (I'm having a ball with Louie Gomer, for instance).

I'm sick to death of unfounded sexist attacks (especially the venom directed at the FL).... simply for the sake of sexism. And in her case, racism.  

In order for it to be funny it has to incorporate some element of reality in the joke, somewhere. That was all fiction. And therefor Lame.

president and constitutional  scholar Barack Obama explains the three branches or our federal government :
Me,Myself and I............ ;D

I've never taken offense to humor about a President - it's part of their job to be the public face of the country, and they'll always be lampooned by someone. There was a record album put out back in the early 60's called "The First Family" that lampooned the Kennedys. It was hilarious. Remember Chevy Chase making a career out of pratfalls based on President Ford stumbling off Air Force One? Funny stuff.  What I take issue with is the things that are deliberately nasty about the President's wife and children, which, in my opinion, tarnish the very essence of humor. Humor is, by design, good natured - even when it's lampooning someone. That's why things like celebrity roasts and the annual Correspondent's' Dinner are so much fun. The problem is when the tone changes and it turns downright nasty - like making appearance "jokes" to mask your petty calling someone ugly look less ugly itself (it doesn't work). When you call the First Lady a Wookie, or her daughters apes or chimpanzees, it is YOU who actually looks ugly.

And I agree with you (I think) in that making fun of wives and children, particularly their physical features or in low class demeaning ways regarding their personhood...no.  Women politicians or public figures, however, are open game for political humor.  There's no whining in baseball or politics so put on your big girl panties and take it like a woman.   

Sarah Palin:

“Do you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull? Lipstick.”



Barack Obama one week later:

“You know, you can put lipstick on a pig,” Obama said, “but it’s still a pig.”

Lefties don't have big girl panties or even big boy panties, that's why they whine like babies. mo made herself a public target with the many, many appearances and her push to shove her will down our throats with her food police. That said, first ladies have always been targets and subject to debate, ridicule and even cartoons and jokes.

I think MO is open to jokes, but not the kids.

Not even Chelsea Clinton.

But isn't this another one of those many situations where we see the Left proclaiming "this standard applies to me, but not to thee?"

Because they certainly have a no holds barred approach to meanness, a subset of which is jokes, insofar as the children are concerned.  My my, we can't be joking about MO.  But we can make jokes about who actually was the father of Palin's daughter's child.  They are fair game.

Little problem there?

Obama was absolutely taking a jab at Palin...as well as McCain and Bush.  But I don't see that as a sexist put down...that was actually clever turn of phrase red meat for his base, which is exactly why his friendly audience loved it.

Heres are a couple of my favorite jokes


A priest and a rabbi are stranded on a deserted island.

One day they are sitting on the beach and staring out at the waves, when the priest says I wish there were some little boys on this island.

Well the rabbi thinks about it and looks around, and finally asks why?

The priest replies... So we could fuck them.

Well the rabbi thinks about it and looks around some more, and finally replies... Out of What???

One day a bear and a rabbit were taking a shit in the woods.

And when the bear was done, he looked down at the rabbit and asked... Tell me rabbit, have you ever had a problem with shit sticking to your fur?

The rabbit thought for a moment... and said he couldn't think of that ever being a problem.


To which the bear replied Good!

And wiped his ass with the rabbit.

Conservative humor is all some variation on I Love Lucy.  Lucille Ball was a genius comedian, but the show was misogynistic as fuck.  Unfortunately it covered the entire range of r-w "humor".   

This is really hard to swallow.  A fun thread turned into an argument over jokes.  And of course the libs bring in references to body parts that have no place in the world of fun.  And then I think of the thread libs started with headlines referring to con politicians which contained disgusting epithets, nothing fun and easy about them, pure filth.

It is said libs have no sense of humor.  They don't.  They think filth is humor and they think humor is racism, sexism, religousism.

That god I am not them.  What miserable lives they must lead.

OK, let us become serious for a moment,  I actually do have a sense of humour, as cynical as it might be on occasional.  But what I do not have time for is any so-called humour that includes attacks of individuals on a personal basis.    Although we have some added latitude with regard to politicians and other public figures - particularly relating to SNL type satire - I draw a firm line in the sand with regard to the families of those figures, most particularly the  minor children and spouses that are not directly involved in political policy.   And in that regard,  the role of the First Lady of the US has become increasingly political over the years.  Consequently the issues relating to the FL do become a bit murky.  But what I do have a problem with are jokes that are offensive with regard to race, ethnicity, gender, religion.  Although I will confess that it is often times debatable if a joke actually crosses the line in one of these areas.  And no, I cannot provide simple clear cut definition of what is offensive.  It is a bit like the late Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart's definition of Pornography -- "I don't know how to define it, I just recognize it when I see it".   So, is the joke in question offensive or not?  Actually, I find it offensive  primarily for a couple of reasons.  First the choice of the animals used in the punch line of the joke, secondly, and most particularly, the history that is associated with the attacks that have been directed at this president and first lady, attacks that all too often carry with them racial undercurrents - or even  are outwardly racist in nature.  To deny the existence of these racial issues is naïve at best -- dishonest and disingenuous at worst.   

Sweet mother of god how the hell did this thread anger people.

I draw a firm line in the sand with regard to the families of those figures, most particularly the  minor children and spouses that are not directly involved in political policy.

Since both Michelle Obama and Nancy Pelosi are very political, I guess you have no objection to poking a little fun at them. As far as racial undertones are concerned, liberals are the ones constantly reminding us that the Obamas are black and therefore beyond criticism.

Michelle Obama is not an elected political figure, but she does have the right to free speech, a platform, and the right to support her own and her husband's programs.  Just as Laura Bush did.  So no, you don't get to lump her in with a congresswoman who deserves what she gets (as if either of them deserve that)    Would your 'joke' naming Laura a good trade for a pig draw guffaws from you?

I also stated that I was equally uncomfortable with jokes that in any way attacked a person's race, ethnicity, gender, religion or age.  And in that respect I have a couple of issues with this joke as it relates to gender.  First it places the First Lady of the US and the Minority Leader of the House of Representatives on the same level as a couple of hogs.  And more disturbing it insinuates that Barack Obama actually "owns" the two individuals and as such can trade them for farm animals.   OK, I admit it.   As I said earlier, I lack a sense of humour.  Or at the least, I lack a totally developed one.   

First it places the First Lady of the US and the Minority Leader of the House of Representatives on the same level as a couple of hogs.

May I remind you sir that these were not just a couple of ordinary Iowa hogs! These were a pair of genuine Arkansas Razorbacks! Certainly that makes a difference.

Lawyers should never ask a Georgia grandma a question if they aren't prepared for the answer.

In a trial, a Southern small-town prosecuting attorney called his first witness, a grandmotherly, elderly woman to the stand. He approached her and asked, 'Mrs. Jones, do you know me?' She responded, 'Why, yes, I do know you, Mr. Williams. I've known you since you were a boy, and frankly, you've been a big disappointment to me. You lie, you cheat on your wife, and you manipulate people and talk about them behind their backs. You think you're a big shot when you haven't the brains to realize you'll never amount to anything more than a two-bit paper pusher. Yes, I know you.'

The lawyer was stunned. Not knowing what else to do, he pointed across the room and asked, 'Mrs. Jones, do you know the defense attorney?'

She again replied, 'Why yes, I do. I've known Mr. Bradley since he was a youngster, too. He's lazy, bigoted, and he has a drinking problem. He can't build a normal relationship with anyone, and his law practice is one of the worst in the entire state. Not to mention he cheated on his wife with three different women. One of them was your wife. Yes, I know him.'.

The judge asked both counselors to approach the bench and, in a very quiet voice, said,

'If either of you idiots asks her if she knows me, I'll send you both to the electric chair.

BTW, there are also lots of jokes about women swapping their husbands for material things, so get off your always offended high horses, people. Sheesh!

Correct. 

The basic idea that jokes should not offend anyone or any group is totally fucking offensive.

This is hilarious, I admit personally I didn't get it for a few seconds.   ;D
I was like umm where is the punchline and I was trying to sort out if this was a real story or a complete joke.. haha.

So we can't tell the same political joke that has been told many times with other men/women/party substitutions, but straight up calling a conservative woman a pig is fine.

Well she's white, right?

<<sarcasm>>

I saw that coming when the lefties defended maher for calling palin a cu*t because it was funny. Or when they attacked Bristol and trig while claiming the obama girls were off limits. And of course the house ni**er name used to describe so many black republicans male and female because the dem party knows that all blacks belong in the dem party. No nuance there.

You can tell the 'same jokes' if you live in 1940 in your head. So what do you forward thinking girls think of Rush's knee slapper about Chelsea Clinton?   Is that the nuance you can relate to?
Conservative humor is all some variation on I Love Lucy.  Lucille Ball was a genius comedian, but the show was misogynistic as fuck.  Unfortunately it covered the entire range of r-w "humor".

I always thought there were hints of envy on the palin issue.

Because she certainly is no pig.

And the Democrats sure have a lot of women who are hogs.

I draw a firm line in the sand with regard to the families of those figures, most particularly the  minor children and spouses that are not directly involved in political policy.

+1

Since both Michelle Obama and Nancy Pelosi are very political, I guess you have no objection to poking a little fun at them. As far as racial undertones are concerned, liberals are the ones constantly reminding us that the Obamas are black and therefore beyond criticism.

Michelle Obama is not an elected political figure, but she does have the right to free speech, a platform, and the right to support her own and her husband's programs.  Just as Laura Bush did.  So no, you don't get to lump her in with a congresswoman who deserves what she gets (as if either of them deserve that)    Would your 'joke' naming Laura a good trade for a pig draw guffaws from you?

I also stated that I was equally uncomfortable with jokes that in any way attacked a person's race, ethnicity, gender, religion or age.  And in that respect I have a couple of issues with this joke as it relates to gender.  First it places the First Lady of the US and the Minority Leader of the House of Representatives on the same level as a couple of hogs.  And more disturbing it insinuates that Barack Obama actually "owns" the two individuals and as such can trade them for farm animals.   OK, I admit it.   As I said earlier, I lack a sense of humour.  Or at the least, I lack a totally developed one.   

Bill Maher is a cunt.

I liked the joke. If u take offense to a joke, you need to reevaluate your life..

I'm STILL trying to discern where your funny joke is a shot at the president.  So far, you haven't said.

Haha! He has an amazing sense of humor! I wish other presidents can make such a funny situation too.

I believe the hog swap joke originated at the time of Clinton...hence the Arkansas Razorback being part of the joke.   I've heard various forms of it applied to him...then Bush...now Obama. 

LOL   Name every conservative comedian you know....and after you are finished writing "Dennis Miller"...Ill write down the names a few hundred liberal comedians.

WHO defended him because it was funny? I sure didn't.  First of all, Mahar wasn't trying to be funny when he said that, it was one of his more serious moments - he has them. And I didn't defend the use of the word because I think the word is vile and has no place in discourse between reasonable people.

Good post. And I do agree with you. First, children should be entirely off the targeting grid. Note that we are talking CHILDREN, not young adults who are either A) making themselves a part of the campaign of their parent, or B) deliberately placing themselves in a spotlight. Early on in the Bristol Palin discussions, I strongly opposed people bring her pregnancy into the discussion. It was wrong.  However, when she started to speak in support of her mother, and when she joined "Dancing With The Stars", as far as I was concerned, she shed the protection by choice.  Some of the things that were said about young Amy Carter, then Chelsea Clinton, and now Sasha and Malia Obama just never should be said. Not remotely.  As you said, the role of a First Lady really has become much more active than in the old days. And as regards policies or programs they champion, absolutely, they are on the table for discussion, and SHOULD be. But the verbal abuse of the First Lady by calling her things like "Chewbacca" or "Sasquatch", or "Moochelle", well, these kinds of things only show the limited intelligence and complete lack of class of the person using them. You're right - there are some of these attacks - like calling the First Lady a "Wookie" or "Sasquatch" or referring to her and her daughters as apes - or even calling her husband a "Brazil Nut" that are completely racist in nature and utterly unacceptable. Hell, I didn't even like the jokes that referred to Barbara Bush as looking like George Washington. In the grand scheme of things, especially with what has been piled on Michelle Obama, that may seem mild, but I still found it to be out of line. Small people have to be small. They can't help it. It's just a shame they have to flock to message boards, or blog, or get jobs on air at political propaganda stations on radio and TV masquerading as "news".

I agree 100%.  And that cunt Mahar wasn't funny when he said that.  Although to be fair, I have to note there is a certain category of joke which gets it's humor from ridiculing either a person or behavior.  Nothing wrong with this.  

Not that a stupid cunt like Mahar would understand.