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Title: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 06, 2012, 04:51:19 PM
Like the title says, we need a no begging policy around here.

Or are we the kind of suckers that will give the fish instead of teaching them how to handle a fishing pole?

Beg 1 time, get a warning.
Insist on begging, BAN the fucker.

If people are banned for off-topic posts, they should be banned for begging.
Also, if you notice carefully, 99% of the beggars will turn out to be scammers. <--- Reason enough for this policy

Your thoughts about this?


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: theymos on March 06, 2012, 08:06:51 PM
I tend to agree, though I usually don't delete them unless I'm annoyed by them.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: RodeoX on March 06, 2012, 08:12:00 PM
Please, please, please, can we have a no begging policy.  ;D
Actually, I don't care.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: RaggedMonk on March 06, 2012, 08:17:50 PM
There is no clear line to draw.  Donations towards a common project should still be allowed.  Would Bitcoin100 be considered begging?  Couldn't beggars circumvent this by "selling" pictures of smiley faces they drew in MSPaint?

I am inclined to just leave it at moderator's discretion. 

I would however support a rule which permits trolling of begging threads.  :D


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 06, 2012, 08:37:26 PM
There is no clear line to draw.  Donations towards a common project should still be allowed.  Would Bitcoin100 be considered begging?  Couldn't beggars circumvent this by "selling" pictures of smiley faces they drew in MSPaint?

I am inclined to just leave it at moderator's discretion. 

I would however support a rule which permits trolling of begging threads.  :D

Ofourse Bitcoin100 isn't begging. Far from me to think something like that.
I was talking more about guys registering and start begging the same day. Those are the ones that turn out to be scammers most of times. The pattern is there if you look closely.

I also support the rule which permits trolling of begging threads. Ofcourse threads like Bitcoin100 should be excluded from that rule :D


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: stochastic on March 07, 2012, 09:34:32 AM
Like the title says, we need a no begging policy around here.

Or are we the kind of suckers that will give the fish instead of teaching them how to handle a fishing pole?

Beg 1 time, get a warning.
Insist on begging, BAN the fucker.

If people are banned for off-topic posts, they should be banned for begging.
Also, if you notice carefully, 99% of the beggars will turn out to be scammers. <--- Reason enough for this policy

Your thoughts about this?

Have a begging section.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 07, 2012, 09:50:19 AM
We are a developer centric community. Fuck begging. Offer jobs, inspire to create, demand quality.

Begging is pointless and doesn't help anyone.

If absolutely must, they should get a loan.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: ThomasV on March 07, 2012, 10:11:21 AM
Quote
Want me to just STFU? 1PKyq6aMKcCwn8cmb9Jc5SkNydLsQb5n7K

Do you count your signature as begging? because I do.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 07, 2012, 10:27:54 AM
Quote
Want me to just STFU? 1PKyq6aMKcCwn8cmb9Jc5SkNydLsQb5n7K

Do you count your signature as begging? because I do.


Not really. And I don't expect any kind of donation there.
1- That's my wicked sense of humour, and I understand if others won't get it
2- It's an easy way to give a bitcoin address when someone asks for it on the forum without having to open my client and get one, I just say "Address in my sig" and get done with it :)
3- I should've made myself clear that I was referring to posting threads just for the sole purpose of begging.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 07, 2012, 10:41:09 AM
Quote
Want me to just STFU? 1PKyq6aMKcCwn8cmb9Jc5SkNydLsQb5n7K

Do you count your signature as begging? because I do.


That's not begging. That's providing a service.

He will shut the fuck up for a bitcent.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: realnowhereman on March 07, 2012, 02:29:11 PM
How about we have a vote.  The vote will take this form:

If you strongly disagree with begging on the forum (and you may define begging in whatever way you wish), register your vote by never handing any of your money over.

If you agree with allowing begging, hand over whatever amount you feel like entirely at your own judgement of the worthiness of the cause being begged.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: RandyFolds on March 07, 2012, 11:55:16 PM
Some begging threads are really entertaining. We should have a section where all the begging threads go, and trolling those threads is allowed and encouraged.

I like this idea. Skid Row subforum...


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: RaggedMonk on March 08, 2012, 04:03:52 AM
Some begging threads are really entertaining. We should have a section where all the begging threads go, and trolling those threads is allowed and encouraged.

I like this idea. Skid Row subforum...
;D +1


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: John (John K.) on March 09, 2012, 10:45:18 AM
I think this entirely depends on the context - for example begging for information not readily available should be okay. But begging for bitcoins crosses this line.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 09, 2012, 11:01:53 AM
I think this entirely depends on the context - for example begging for information not readily available should be okay. But begging for bitcoins crosses this line.

Obviously.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Fiyasko on March 13, 2012, 08:53:12 AM
I Support the no begging policy


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 13, 2012, 10:48:01 AM
I Support the no begging policy

+1


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Fiyasko on March 13, 2012, 05:31:50 PM
i dont mind sending few bitcents here and there, like here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22126.0

dont make up a story, just cut to the chase and ask/request for your first bitcoins
See now things like that are "alright" because were helping "jumpstart" people into the bitcoin world
I just hate seeing "i need a gpu to mine coins, I'll pay you back after with it's earnings after you buy me the card"


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 13, 2012, 05:37:36 PM
i dont mind sending few bitcents here and there, like here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22126.0

dont make up a story, just cut to the chase and ask/request for your first bitcoins
See now things like that are "alright" because were helping "jumpstart" people into the bitcoin world
I just hate seeing "i need a gpu to mine coins, I'll pay you back after with it's earnings after you buy me the card"

Also, those few bitcoin are very easy to earn today, on sites like CoinWorker.com. There's really no reason for a faucet anymore, much less for begging.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: bitlane on March 31, 2012, 12:33:53 AM
I really wanted to get my new project off the ground, but haven't had time....  http://www.btcbum.com

Anyone wanna help ? (yes, I was begging for help....lol)


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: blablahblah on April 01, 2012, 12:46:39 PM
I think begging is part of a competitive market and naturally sorts itself out. Isn't any soliciting for commerce essentially begging? It's just that the marketing skill and creativity of the "beggar" varies across a wide range. Who can draw a line and say "this is acceptable business advertising, but that isn't"?


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Raoul Duke on April 01, 2012, 01:02:54 PM
I think begging is part of a competitive market and naturally sorts itself out. Isn't any soliciting for commerce essentially begging? It's just that the marketing skill and creativity of the "beggar" varies across a wide range. Who can draw a line and say "this is acceptable business advertising, but that isn't"?

So... "my house burned down, please spare some change" could be considered "acceptable business advertising" by some standard that I'm not aware of?


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: terrytibbs on April 01, 2012, 01:07:28 PM
I think begging is part of a competitive market and naturally sorts itself out. Isn't any soliciting for commerce essentially begging? It's just that the marketing skill and creativity of the "beggar" varies across a wide range. Who can draw a line and say "this is acceptable business advertising, but that isn't"?

So... "my house burned down, please spare some change" could be considered "acceptable business advertising" by some standard that I'm not aware of?
This


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: blablahblah on April 01, 2012, 01:25:33 PM
I think begging is part of a competitive market and naturally sorts itself out. Isn't any soliciting for commerce essentially begging? It's just that the marketing skill and creativity of the "beggar" varies across a wide range. Who can draw a line and say "this is acceptable business advertising, but that isn't"?

So... "my house burned down, please spare some change" could be considered "acceptable business advertising" by some standard that I'm not aware of?
It doesn't matter. As long as people have two brain cells to rub together, they will ignore that person (or ridicule them or whatever), and instead they'll send their money to some other guy offering shares in a venture capital housing construction business.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: tonto on April 23, 2012, 09:49:44 PM
Please, please, please, can we have a no begging policy.  ;D
Actually, I don't care.

er, isn't this very post a begging post? :)


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: legolouman on April 23, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
Please, please, please, can we have a no begging policy.  ;D
Actually, I don't care.

er, isn't this very post a begging post? :)

I beg of you! Make a no begging rule!


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: mc_lovin on May 03, 2012, 01:17:23 AM
I say let them beg, after all, being able to share addresses online is one of the fundamental advantages of bitcoin...

Please, please, please, can we have a no begging policy.  ;D
Actually, I don't care.

er, isn't this very post a begging post? :)
I think he was being intentionally begging-like to imply sarcasm :)


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Gladamas on May 03, 2012, 01:53:39 AM
Some begging threads are really entertaining. We should have a section where all the begging threads go, and trolling those threads is allowed and encouraged.

I agree with this, I also think that Moderators should be able to move threads to the Begging section (if they can't already) and that the Begging section should be a subsection under Newbies.

Why? Two reasons, so that Newbies can post begging threads which we can make fun of, and so that Newbies can troll on begging threads.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Raoul Duke on May 03, 2012, 02:02:33 AM
Some begging threads are really entertaining. We should have a section where all the begging threads go, and trolling those threads is allowed and encouraged.

I agree with this, I also think that Moderators should be able to move threads to the Begging section (if they can't already) and that the Begging section should be a subsection under Newbies.

Why? Two reasons, so that Newbies can post begging threads which we can make fun of, and so that Newbies can troll on begging threads.

This forum already has a lot of entertainment value but this suggestion would only add to it ;D
+1


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on May 03, 2012, 03:56:55 AM
In all seriousness, anyone who isn't a cripple or dying has no right to beg.

Begging is what you do when you have no options. It is not a fall-back for when you don't feel like looking for a job, being creative, or fixing the problems in your life.

I see people on this forum begging for money who have cars, TVs, houses, etc and actual skills. I see others who are able bodied young men who could be mowing lawns if it weren't for their wild egos.

Let's face it. Begging should be looked down on and thought of as an absolute last resort for someone next to death. I highly doubt the internet provided lazy trailer trash on here often begging for Bitcoins could be doing some mundane task to earn them as well.

What we really need is not a begging subforum, but a part-time-job subforum where people can do small internet-based workloads for small bitcoin fees. You know, like Mechanical Turk.

Where is your creativity people?


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: legolouman on May 04, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
In all seriousness, anyone who isn't a cripple or dying has no right to beg.

Begging is what you do when you have no options. It is not a fall-back for when you don't feel like looking for a job, being creative, or fixing the problems in your life.

I see people on this forum begging for money who have cars, TVs, houses, etc and actual skills. I see others who are able bodied young men who could be mowing lawns if it weren't for their wild egos.

Let's face it. Begging should be looked down on and thought of as an absolute last resort for someone next to death. I highly doubt the internet provided lazy trailer trash on here often begging for Bitcoins could be doing some mundane task to earn them as well.

What we really need is not a begging subforum, but a part-time-job subforum where people can do small internet-based workloads for small bitcoin fees. You know, like Mechanical Turk.

Where is your creativity people?

Technically, we are all dying, albeit very slowly.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Enkel on May 06, 2012, 03:46:59 AM
Wow. Now I feel like a total noob (again). 

While trapped under the newbie dome, there was a thread, some guy asked for 1 BTC.  I thought all these nice people had actually given him 1BTC each.  (In my defense, I offered a 400-500 word article for 1BTC).

You guys need to be a bit more clear with your snarkiness (at least in that forum).  How else will we newbies learn the rules of the road?  Its real tempting to beg when it looks like some guy got 5BTC just for having the balls to ask for it.

*slinks away in shame*


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Gladamas on May 08, 2012, 05:14:37 AM
Some begging threads are really entertaining. We should have a section where all the begging threads go, and trolling those threads is allowed and encouraged.

I agree with this, I also think that Moderators should be able to move threads to the Begging section (if they can't already) and that the Begging section should be a subsection under Newbies.

Why? Two reasons, so that Newbies can post begging threads which we can make fun of, and so that Newbies can troll on begging threads.

I was just joking when I said this. We could maybe post a list of begging threads for the fun of it, but making fun of newbies is just wrong.

Wow. Now I feel like a total noob (again).  

While trapped under the newbie dome, there was a thread, some guy asked for 1 BTC.  I thought all these nice people had actually given him 1BTC each.  (In my defense, I offered a 400-500 word article for 1BTC).

You guys need to be a bit more clear with your snarkiness (at least in that forum).  How else will we newbies learn the rules of the road?  Its real tempting to beg when it looks like some guy got 5BTC just for having the balls to ask for it.

*slinks away in shame*

I agree. We shouldn't stereotype someone just because they are asking (begging) for money. C'mon guys, you know you were just joking, right?

Like the title says, we need a no begging policy around here.

Or are we the kind of suckers that will give the fish instead of teaching them how to handle a fishing pole?

Beg 1 time, get a warning.
Insist on begging, BAN the fucker.

If people are banned for off-topic posts, they should be banned for begging.
Also, if you notice carefully, 99% of the beggars will turn out to be scammers. <--- Reason enough for this policy

Your thoughts about this?


Can someone donate to "Help Psytard Get Laid" fund.

A few BTC will get him a high quality gay crack whore.

Send donations to 1QGetPsytardLaidQa977LJ3YHXXW8B

If you don't like begging, hit the IGNORE button.


~BCX~

Wow, that's some customized address you have there! How long did it take you to make it in VanityGen?  :o It would take me like 100 years!


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Raoul Duke on May 08, 2012, 05:25:49 AM
Wow, that's some customized address you have there! How long did it take you to make it in VanityGen?  :o It would take me like 100 years!

The address is not even valid...


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Gladamas on May 08, 2012, 10:30:07 PM
Wow, that's some customized address you have there! How long did it take you to make it in VanityGen?  :o It would take me like 100 years!

The address is not even valid...


Kinda like your OP LOL

 ;D ;D ;D

~BCX~

Funny thing is, I was being completely serious. I am so gullible.  :D


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: tysat on October 15, 2013, 03:38:58 PM
So is this the case, no begging now?

I thought we could express anything other than calling for acts of violance.

I have seen mods edit peoples posts so searched for this. Anyway odd there is a note about not removing scams but you guys get rid of begging...



I don't usually delete being posts, just remove the addresses and make a note.  I make notes on potential scams as well.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on October 15, 2013, 09:19:32 PM
Wow, that's some customized address you have there! How long did it take you to make it in VanityGen?  :o It would take me like 100 years!

The address is not even valid...


Kinda like your OP LOL

 ;D ;D ;D

~BCX~

Funny thing is, I was being completely serious. I am so gullible.  :D

Where did I see your avatar before, albeit it was spinning?


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: greyhawk on October 15, 2013, 09:22:14 PM
Wow, that's some customized address you have there! How long did it take you to make it in VanityGen?  :o It would take me like 100 years!

The address is not even valid...


Kinda like your OP LOL

 ;D ;D ;D

~BCX~

Funny thing is, I was being completely serious. I am so gullible.  :D

Where did I see your avatar before, albeit it was spinning?

4 dimensional geometry? It's a Tesseract or as the Internet likes to call it "Hypercube (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract)


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: just_me on October 16, 2013, 12:03:27 PM






SaveMe.info allows people to ask for crypto-coin donations from their own webpage at saveme.info




Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Kouye on October 17, 2013, 12:47:36 AM
Agreed with OP.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308093.msg3303391#msg3303391

This guy ran away with a lot of "donations".
And he's loling now.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: cryptasm on October 17, 2013, 10:13:40 AM
https://i.imgur.com/N6SAWBm.jpg


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: TheButterZone on February 03, 2014, 10:33:20 PM
Bump... zero tolerance rule for begging (warn on registration & login that begging=instaban) please. This shit needs to stop: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=447380.new#new


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Holliday on February 04, 2014, 01:38:33 AM
It seems like there has been a lot of begging threads recently.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: Lucky Cris on February 04, 2014, 01:41:06 AM
Concur!

Could this be implemented if it were a pole and we voted?


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: hilariousandco on February 05, 2014, 11:14:53 AM
It seems like there has been a lot of begging threads recently.

I'm sure begging threads will only grow over time as Bitcoin gets more mainstream attention.  I think this is why the newbiejail was a good idea. At least they were quarantined then and could be dealt with quicker.



Bookmarked. I'll use that in future  ;D.


Title: Re: We need a "No begging" policy...
Post by: hilariousandco on February 05, 2014, 12:31:14 PM
Meh. It's not working. I have a better idea: a separate subforum just for begging threads.
Donations?
Charities?
Sending bitcoins for some good cause?
Plese do begiving me some bitcions for my honest battle against the evil dictator?
---> to the begging section! ;D

Who would actually post in that forum? It'd just be a trollfest. And we kinda did have a begging section - it was called the newbiejail  ;D.