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Title: [LOCKED] DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2012, 02:55:46 PM Good job locking the original thread, DI. That went a long way toward stopping us and showed uncommon integrity. ::)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61366.0 Code: Involved Party | Amount Owed (in BTC) by Alex A. | Due Date (if applicable) | Type of Transaction Letter and phone calls are being sent out today after I get back from town. DI is now in default on ALL of his loans and has not stated ability to repay, nor reply to requests for a time when he'll repay, instead opting to lock the thread where we were asking. I have authorization to represent all lenders and collect payment on behalf of the lenders. This list does NOT include donations or t-shirts, nor am I representing people who donated or purchased t-shirts as I didn't get any timely replies when posting I was going to collect. That said, if you lost money to DI and are not listed here, I have plenty of contact information in meat space provided you have evidence of an unfulfilled transaction with DI. Will post updates as updates occur. :) Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: farfiman on March 07, 2012, 03:27:14 PM Was this a very sophisticated scam or another failed venture ?
I just don't get it. If it's a scam why do the scammers keep coming back to read whats going on long after they have the funds? And if it wasn't a scam , the guy killed his reputation for 1000$ , I know it's a lot of money for some people but I would stick around and try to pay back what I can when I can. Oh well once again... Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2012, 06:13:28 PM Was this a very sophisticated scam or another failed venture ? For now, we're assuming he was overwhelmed with debt and lost interest in Bitcoin London and the other ventures. Just got back from town. Have stuff to unload, need to check the time in the UK, then will call when appropriate. Thinking I'll just try email, first. Can't use Google Voice right now from where I am, and don't know if I can even make international calls through other means. Just looking for more firm ways to contact DI, atm -- oddly enough, he posted his information which led to family members' phone #s, addresses, and work places, but nothing on himself. Don't want to bother them more than absolutely necessary to get contact info.I just don't get it. If it's a scam why do the scammers keep coming back to read whats going on long after they have the funds? And if it wasn't a scam , the guy killed his reputation for 1000$ , I know it's a lot of money for some people but I would stick around and try to pay back what I can when I can. Oh well once again... Fwiw, at the time of transactions, the total amount (including donations and t-shirt orders which were never fulfilled) was around $2k. Heh - probably the worst part of this for us is the coin was possibly sold off, pushing the value of BTC down. Double-whammy. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: BurtW on March 07, 2012, 06:44:52 PM Darn it all.
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2012, 07:19:22 PM First contact request sent to DI's dad, hoping to confirm he is who we believe he is. If no response received within a couple days, will proceed with other readied methods.
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: John (John K.) on March 07, 2012, 07:21:35 PM Kluge, are you sure the person you're contacting is his dad? If he were wanting to scam from day one, wouldn't he try hide such information? Note that I'm fully in support of going after those goddamn scammers like DI :)
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2012, 07:24:52 PM Kluge, are you sure the person you're contacting is his dad? If he were wanting to scam from day one, wouldn't he try hide such information? Note that I'm fully in support of going after those goddamn scammers like DI :) I am not. DI did not provide contact information of who I believe to be his dad to us, but accidentally supplied it by using personal information elsewhere on the Internet which, through some further snooping, revealed what appears to be his father's information -- that leads me to believe it's probably accurate. However, I was thinking the same as you this morning and decided against sending sensitive information prior to the fellow I'm contacting confirming he is who I believe.Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: John (John K.) on March 07, 2012, 07:30:27 PM Well, just as I've thought so... I've did some google-scraping of my own, and if he uses the same username then we should get him fairly easily. However, there is a chance that someone could impersonate him by taking a well-known username and scamming here, thus leaving all leads closed. He has the signs of a scammer when he borrowed and repaid a small amount, and immediately borrowed a large sum of money after that. Also, the persons that he said would be helping him during the London event are present on the internet too. (Ahles - Photographer) No leads on the Alexis gal as alexis's are fairly common. Can you ask the mods to verify that his IP originates from UK at least?
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2012, 07:31:25 PM Well, just as I've thought so... I've did some google-scraping of my own, and if he uses the same username then we should get him fairly easily. However, there is a chance that someone could impersonate him by taking a well-known username and scamming here, thus leaving all leads closed. He has the signs of a scammer when he borrowed and repaid a small amount, and immediately borrowed a large sum of money after that. Also, the persons that he said would be helping him during the London event are present on the internet too. (Ahles - Photographer) No leads on the Alexis gal as alexis's are fairly common. Can you ask the mods to verify that his IP originates from UK at least? Yes, Maged might be willing to do that for us. PMd him. Good idea.Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 07, 2012, 07:34:03 PM Question. Who is DoubleIcaras, what did they do, and why does it seem like everyone on this forum falls for this shit every week?
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2012, 07:38:18 PM Question. Who is DoubleIcaras, what did they do, and why does it seem like everyone on this forum falls for this shit every week? You can read through the link in the OP if you're really curious. He was supposed to host an event raising awareness for Bitcoin in London. He sold t-shirts (which were apparently never delivered), accepted donations, and took out loans.This seems to happen every week because we lenders seem to often make the mistake of thinking smaller loans do not require the same effort in IDing the person and demanding to know how the BTC will be paid back as we would with larger loans. Both Pat & I (haven't heard from others) seem to be @ ~10% default rate (with regards to # of loans, if weighted for amount loans made for, probably much lower), and AFAIK (it's true for myself, at least), they're all for relatively small loans, never large single loans. Seems there's a strong correlation there and we're dropping the ball by thinking smaller lendees have a stronger right to privacy, or perhaps we're thinking we have a right to be lazy. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 07, 2012, 07:43:09 PM Question. Who is DoubleIcaras, what did they do, and why does it seem like everyone on this forum falls for this shit every week? You can read through the link in the OP if you're really curious. He was supposed to host an event raising awareness for Bitcoin in London. He sold t-shirts (which were apparently never delivered), accepted donations, and took out loans.This seems to happen every week because we lenders seem to often make the mistake of thinking smaller loans do not require the same effort in IDing the person and demanding to know how the BTC will be paid back as we would with larger loans. Both Pat & I (haven't heard from others) seem to be @ ~10% default rate (with regards to # of loans, if weighted for amount loans made for, probably much lower), and AFAIK (it's true for myself, at least), they're all for relatively small loans, never large single loans. Seems there's a strong correlation there and we're dropping the ball by thinking smaller lendees have a stronger right to privacy, or perhaps we're thinking we have a right to be lazy. Oh that person who claimed he would remake the money back from standing outside shouting about bitcoin? Yea, I don't know what anyone would trust such a scam. How was he supposed to make money anyway? Selling bitcoins? As for the lenders, sounds like being lazy tbh. One of our DCAO colleagues is working on a new system (it will be advertised in the Bitcoin Magazine actually) for a new secure and smart system for loans. You guys will love it. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2012, 07:51:23 PM Question. Who is DoubleIcaras, what did they do, and why does it seem like everyone on this forum falls for this shit every week? You can read through the link in the OP if you're really curious. He was supposed to host an event raising awareness for Bitcoin in London. He sold t-shirts (which were apparently never delivered), accepted donations, and took out loans.This seems to happen every week because we lenders seem to often make the mistake of thinking smaller loans do not require the same effort in IDing the person and demanding to know how the BTC will be paid back as we would with larger loans. Both Pat & I (haven't heard from others) seem to be @ ~10% default rate (with regards to # of loans, if weighted for amount loans made for, probably much lower), and AFAIK (it's true for myself, at least), they're all for relatively small loans, never large single loans. Seems there's a strong correlation there and we're dropping the ball by thinking smaller lendees have a stronger right to privacy, or perhaps we're thinking we have a right to be lazy. Oh that person who claimed he would remake the money back from standing outside shouting about bitcoin? Yea, I don't know what anyone would trust such a scam. How was he supposed to make money anyway? Selling bitcoins? As for the lenders, sounds like being lazy tbh. One of our DCAO colleagues is working on a new system (it will be advertised in the Bitcoin Magazine actually) for a new secure and smart system for loans. You guys will love it. Otherwise, we already have lists of defaulters, but it's useless with so many unproven people requesting a loan, and that's just a lack of self-discipline on our part to give out loans to relatively unproven people. People fake pay stubs, their pictures, addresses, identity, take out "confidence loans" and repay, etc. Unless there's something totally revolutionary never done before in the new proposed system, we'll still just end up needing to turn away those without a lot of rep, I suppose. I'm hoping the free escrow service I'm offering will help convince new sellers to pop up and get involved so they'll be accepted when they request new loans. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 07, 2012, 08:07:34 PM One of our DCAO colleagues is working on a new system (it will be advertised in the Bitcoin Magazine actually) for a new secure and smart system for loans. You guys will love it. Unless there's something totally revolutionary never done before in the new proposed system,It's exactly that! Can't wait till it's announced formally. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 07, 2012, 08:18:29 PM One of our DCAO colleagues is working on a new system (it will be advertised in the Bitcoin Magazine actually) for a new secure and smart system for loans. You guys will love it. Unless there's something totally revolutionary never done before in the new proposed system,I'll start checking my mailbox better to ensure I didn't miss my copy. Starting to become too exciting. ;) Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 07, 2012, 09:00:54 PM You're better than Steve Jobs, sometimes. ;D Make no mistake, I didn't make it. I'm just on-board as an adviser. I am pretty proud of our extensive 2012 DCAO lineup though. We've got enough projects to keep Bitcoin busy for 5 years. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 08, 2012, 02:43:12 PM Admin confirmed DI's IP address originates from the UK. No response to email to personal address. Sending to work address tonight. Tomorrow, phone call, possibly letter.
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: John (John K.) on March 08, 2012, 02:55:45 PM Admin confirmed DI's IP address originates from the UK. No response to email to personal address. Sending to work address tonight. Tomorrow, phone call, possibly letter. That's a relief to hear as we can be more assured that he is probably not using any proxies; hence he might be the same person under the username quite possibly.What's his email provider? Is it one of those free email providers? Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 08, 2012, 02:59:33 PM Admin confirmed DI's IP address originates from the UK. No response to email to personal address. Sending to work address tonight. Tomorrow, phone call, possibly letter. That's a relief to hear as we can be more assured that he is probably not using any proxies; hence he might be the same person under the username quite possibly.What's his email provider? Is it one of those free email providers? Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 08, 2012, 04:14:18 PM ETA: Removed. Was operating on old information.
Evidence suggests someone with the name "Alex" who wears near-identical glasses as Alex and has similar (or perhaps identical, depending on lighting variables) recently purchased drugs from Silk Road and is trying them out -- the link was found on DI's FB page. This was about a month ago, after he'd already have our money, but there's enough time for a SR seller to've already shipped him his purchase. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 12, 2012, 06:01:45 PM There is now another DI responding on the Internet claiming he is being cyber-stalked by someone seeking to ruin his videogame handle's reputation.
This strikes me as odd for a couple reasons: 1) BTCTalk ("fake") DI changed his avatar to something generic after it became obvious he wasn't going to repay. Before, he was using the same avatar as is used by the so-claimed "real" DI. If DI wanted to make a fuss over the "real" DI, why would "fake" DI not use an identifying avatar? 2) Everywhere, users of the handle "DoubleIcaras" claim to live in the Bedfordshire area of the UK, which corresponds to the IP addresses of "fake" DI collected by forum admin. "Real" DI's alleged stalker lives near him, and his chosen venue of harassment is months-long loans he defaulted on, then gave an excuse for? I do believe that's a sign of getting somewhere. :) Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: PatrickHarnett on March 12, 2012, 07:26:01 PM I also noticed an Icarus (same avatar) also knowledgeable about bitcoins on a similar/related gaming web site.
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: John (John K.) on March 12, 2012, 11:37:21 PM Yep, it's the same guy. Seems he saw this thread about him and wondered if he could make a run about it. No chance! ;D
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: hongus on March 17, 2012, 10:08:41 AM 5 days since the last post. Any updates?
https://i.imgur.com/6zHn2.gif Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 17, 2012, 07:27:30 PM No. His father isn't responding to contact requests and some of the contact information on him is invalid. Without knowing his father *is* his father, and without knowing for sure where he lives, I'm not willing to send sensitive information to the address I have, especially not with everyone's real name on the letter.
If another lender would like to take this up, I'll gladly turn over the written-up document and all information on DI & alleged father I have. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: danieldaniel on March 17, 2012, 08:48:10 PM Did you go onto http://www.intelius.com/?
I think it gets family members, and gets their contact info. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 17, 2012, 11:18:39 PM Did you go onto http://www.intelius.com/? Looks to be geared toward US residents, and if it's like many similar sites, only acts to charge for public information.I think it gets family members, and gets their contact info. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: ForceField on March 20, 2012, 02:05:06 PM I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181) He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: PatrickHarnett on March 20, 2012, 05:57:02 PM I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181) He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy. Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history. And the search function isn't especially useful. Thank you for point it out. Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him). Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: BurtW on March 20, 2012, 07:13:30 PM I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181) He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy. Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history. And the search function isn't especially useful. Thank you for point it out. Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him). Patrick was a bit confused. Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one. So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge. It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address. Thanks! Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: PatrickHarnett on March 20, 2012, 07:52:26 PM Sorry, must be me being a starfish and all.
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 20, 2012, 07:54:43 PM I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181) He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy. Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history. And the search function isn't especially useful. Thank you for point it out. Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him). Patrick was a bit confused. Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one. So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge. It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address. Thanks! Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: hongus on March 20, 2012, 08:52:29 PM I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181) He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy. Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history. And the search function isn't especially useful. Thank you for point it out. Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him). Patrick was a bit confused. Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one. So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge. It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address. Thanks! Can't you just release his sensitive information to the public? I mean this guy did scam a shitton of money from you guys. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 20, 2012, 09:15:40 PM I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181) He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy. Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history. And the search function isn't especially useful. Thank you for point it out. Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him). Patrick was a bit confused. Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one. So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge. It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address. Thanks! Can't you just release his sensitive information to the public? I mean this guy did scam a shitton of money from you guys. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Otoh on March 20, 2012, 09:22:26 PM doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case
in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: hongus on March 20, 2012, 11:02:30 PM doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn I think we don't just move on. We gotta rape the shit out of this guy. Make an example out of him and let people know that we rape people. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 20, 2012, 11:06:53 PM doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn I think we don't just move on. We gotta rape the shit out of this guy. Make an example out of him and let people know that we rape people. No. The motto in the Skype lending room is "Quickest Vulture Gets the Carcass" not "We gonna rape defaulters." That said, when I was going to sleep last night, I thought about cutting off the head of a dear for a Youtube video, then with me wearing the fresh-cut head, then sending that to all potential lendees to seem intimidating. I'm still considering it. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: hongus on March 20, 2012, 11:14:48 PM doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn I think we don't just move on. We gotta rape the shit out of this guy. Make an example out of him and let people know that we rape people. No. The motto in the Skype lending room is "Quickest Vulture Gets the Carcass" not "We gonna rape defaulters." That said, when I was going to sleep last night, I thought about cutting off the head of a dear for a Youtube video, then with me wearing the fresh-cut head, then sending that to all potential lendees to seem intimidating. I'm still considering it. Any deer head raping? If yes, I approve Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: marked on March 20, 2012, 11:54:05 PM in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, ... face substitution http://vimeo.com/29348533 marked Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: ForceField on March 21, 2012, 06:56:01 PM Vitaliy, Patrick was a bit confused. Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one. So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge. It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address. Thanks! Unfortunately, his final PM to me on that matter was a request to "delete my shipping address and such also". This was sent before he started the false accusations, so I obliged. The best thing I could think of to recover it would be to ask theymos if there is a history or log of deleted PMs. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: BurtW on March 21, 2012, 06:57:53 PM Do you remember anyting about it? Country? City?
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: ForceField on March 21, 2012, 07:09:09 PM Do you remember anyting about it? Country? City? IIRC, I believe it was in England or at least somewhere in the UK, but I am not 100% sure. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Raoul Duke on March 21, 2012, 09:10:28 PM Post all his info on the Bitcoin Shitlist (http://bitcoin-shitlist.com).
I'll deal with him if he wants it removed ;) Just refrain from posting his dad's info, but post all his other online ID's. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Raoul Duke on March 22, 2012, 01:53:57 AM Post all his info on the Bitcoin Shitlist (http://bitcoin-shitlist.com). I'll deal with him if he wants it removed ;) Just refrain from posting his dad's info, but post all his other online ID's. I don't think going that route is the way to go. Connecting ourselves with a site with nothing more than slander will not make us look good. We have other real and effective options if we want to use them. Slander? There is a real company behind that website, with a legal team. Don't let the whois privacy fool you. And if you look closely you'll see which company it is. You are just buthurt because someone posted that you are a fussy prick, which you are indeed. Sue us if you think we are slandering you. Our lawyers will be thankful... Since that post was made, and you proudly showed it in your sig(I have screenshots with timestaps proving it), not even once you tried to refute what was written there, so I must assume it's the truth... Also, I have an edit on that post striking wahtever was out of line there. Fight that if you wish. I'll PM you all my company info if you wish to prosecute us. Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Raoul Duke on March 22, 2012, 02:11:13 AM Please, it's psy, not PSY... I'm not deaf, don't shout my name. I can read ::)
BTW, should I send you that PM now, so you can go file a lawsuit against us on a Thai court? Or are you afraid that the court finds out that your phony company uses nulled themes with exploits for your website because you can't even afford a $40/year license for it? Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Raoul Duke on March 22, 2012, 02:18:11 AM Slander? There is a real company behind that website, with a legal team. Don't let the whois privacy fool you. And if you look closely you'll see which company it is. You are just buthurt because someone posted that you are a fussy prick, which you are indeed. Sue us if you think we are slandering you. Our lawyers will be thankful... Since that post was made, and you proudly showed it in your sig(I have screenshots with timestaps proving it), not even once you tried to refute what was written there, so I must assume it's the truth... Also, I have an edit on that post striking wahtever was out of line there. Fight that if you wish. I'll PM you all my company info if you wish to prosecute us. You can send that legal team to butt fuck themselves, they know absolutely zero about international law (which doesn't exist per say). If I sue them in US, I can pretty much fuck them if they deal with any US person or a company. Go slander me. I can also send you to butt fuck yourself... Oh fuck... I already did... Go slander me. BTW... US? what's that? a brand of shampoo? Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Raoul Duke on March 22, 2012, 02:32:23 AM I can also tell you to go butt fuck yourself... Oh fuck... I already did... Go slander me. Oh yea, and that was your legal team's response? THEY'RE MORONS. Oh and you're too. Using an american company to host your shitty site - PRICELESS. American company? LOL Now tell me who the moron is... @Goat... oh fuck... Goat... (that' reminds me I know a guy who likes to have sex with goats)::) You'll have to send me the notice yourself without my help. Ask my registrar for my info... Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: John (John K.) on March 22, 2012, 02:33:54 AM Gents, please take your discussion elsewhere as this is solely about the Alexander Adams loan. This thread will end up being locked if this continues on I think... :-\
Title: Re: DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread Post by: Kluge on March 22, 2012, 02:38:45 AM Gents, please take your discussion elsewhere as this is solely about the Alexander Adams loan. This thread will end up being locked if this continues on I think... :-\ I think I will close it now.Just to re-iterate, I do not know for sure "DI" is the "DI" with personal info on the web (the "real" DI is contesting our assumption of him as "our" DI). The person I think is DI's dad has not contacted me back when I tried contacting him via email - his telephone # just beeped continuously. I am no longer going forward with this and have no interest in releasing the information we have on "DI" except to other lenders. If you are another lender and are interested in the documents (including the Breach of Contract Notification I have written up with a table of who's owed what), please PM me. |
