[LOCKED] DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread

[Kluge]

There is now another DI responding on the Internet claiming he is being cyber-stalked by someone seeking to ruin his videogame handle's reputation.

This strikes me as odd for a couple reasons:
1) BTCTalk ("fake") DI changed his avatar to something generic after it became obvious he wasn't going to repay. Before, he was using the same avatar as is used by the so-claimed "real" DI. If DI wanted to make a fuss over the "real" DI, why would "fake" DI not use an identifying avatar?

2) Everywhere, users of the handle "DoubleIcaras" claim to live in the Bedfordshire area of the UK, which corresponds to the IP addresses of "fake" DI collected by forum admin. "Real" DI's alleged stalker lives near him, and his chosen venue of harassment is months-long loans he defaulted on, then gave an excuse for?


I do believe that's a sign of getting somewhere. 

[PatrickHarnett]

I also noticed an Icarus (same avatar) also knowledgeable about bitcoins on a similar/related gaming web site.

[John (John K.)]

Yep, it's the same guy. Seems he saw this thread about him and wondered if he could make a run about it. No chance!

[hongus]

5 days since the last post. Any updates?

[Kluge]

5 days since the last post. Any updates?

No. His father isn't responding to contact requests and some of the contact information on him is invalid. Without knowing his father *is* his father, and without knowing for sure where he lives, I'm not willing to send sensitive information to the address I have, especially not with everyone's real name on the letter.

If another lender would like to take this up, I'll gladly turn over the written-up document and all information on DI & alleged father I have.

[danieldaniel]

Did you go onto http://www.intelius.com/?

I think it gets family members, and gets their contact info.

[Kluge]

Did you go onto http://www.intelius.com/?

I think it gets family members, and gets their contact info.

Looks to be geared toward US residents, and if it's like many similar sites, only acts to charge for public information.

[ForceField]

I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

[PatrickHarnett]

I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history.  And the search function isn't especially useful.  Thank you for point it out.  Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him).

[BurtW]

I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history.  And the search function isn't especially useful.  Thank you for point it out.  Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him).

Vitaliy,

Patrick was a bit confused.  Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one.  So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge.  It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address.

Thanks!

[PatrickHarnett]

Sorry, must be me being a starfish and all.

[Kluge]

I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history.  And the search function isn't especially useful.  Thank you for point it out.  Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him).

Vitaliy,

Patrick was a bit confused.  Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one.  So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge.  It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address.

Thanks!

I am no longer heading up the collections. I can turn over the letter written up along with all collected info. DI's dad hasn't replied to my contact requests, and some of the collected information is no longer valid. So, I don't want to send sensitive information to the address we have for him. There's now question whether or not "DI" is "DI," and I've been unable to verify DI's dad is DI's dad.

[hongus]

I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history.  And the search function isn't especially useful.  Thank you for point it out.  Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him).

Vitaliy,

Patrick was a bit confused.  Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one.  So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge.  It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address.

Thanks!

I am no longer heading up the collections. I can turn over the letter written up along with all collected info. DI's dad hasn't replied to my contact requests, and some of the collected information is no longer valid. So, I don't want to send sensitive information to the address we have for him. There's now question whether or not "DI" is "DI," and I've been unable to verify DI's dad is DI's dad.

Can't you just release his sensitive information to the public? I mean this guy did scam a shitton of money from you guys.

[Kluge]

I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history.  And the search function isn't especially useful.  Thank you for point it out.  Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him).

Vitaliy,

Patrick was a bit confused.  Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one.  So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge.  It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address.

Thanks!

I am no longer heading up the collections. I can turn over the letter written up along with all collected info. DI's dad hasn't replied to my contact requests, and some of the collected information is no longer valid. So, I don't want to send sensitive information to the address we have for him. There's now question whether or not "DI" is "DI," and I've been unable to verify DI's dad is DI's dad.

Can't you just release his sensitive information to the public? I mean this guy did scam a shitton of money from you guys.

I could, but I will not. Another DI who is the "real" DI claims his identity is being stolen. I'm about 80% certain BTCTalk DI is the "real" DI, but that's enough to make me uncomfortable. I am willing to turn over the information to another lender and their standards for dox'ing someone can be whatever they like.

[Otoh]

doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case

in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc

anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn

[hongus]

doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case

in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc

anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn

I think we don't just move on. We gotta rape the shit out of this guy. Make an example out of him and let people know that we rape people.

[Kluge]

doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case

in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc

anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn

I think we don't just move on. We gotta rape the shit out of this guy. Make an example out of him and let people know that we rape people.

o.O

No. The motto in the Skype lending room is "Quickest Vulture Gets the Carcass" not "We gonna rape defaulters." That said, when I was going to sleep last night, I thought about cutting off the head of a dear for a Youtube video, then with me wearing the fresh-cut head, then sending that to all potential lendees to seem intimidating. I'm still considering it.

[hongus]

doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case

in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc

anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn

I think we don't just move on. We gotta rape the shit out of this guy. Make an example out of him and let people know that we rape people.

o.O

No. The motto in the Skype lending room is "Quickest Vulture Gets the Carcass" not "We gonna rape defaulters." That said, when I was going to sleep last night, I thought about cutting off the head of a dear for a Youtube video, then with me wearing the fresh-cut head, then sending that to all potential lendees to seem intimidating. I'm still considering it.

Any deer head raping? If yes, I approve

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in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, ...

face substitution http://vimeo.com/29348533

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[ForceField]

Vitaliy,

Patrick was a bit confused.  Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one.  So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge.  It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address.

Thanks!

Unfortunately, his final PM to me on that matter was a request to "delete my shipping address and such also". This was sent before he started the false accusations, so I obliged.

The best thing I could think of to recover it would be to ask theymos if there is a history or log of deleted PMs.