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Title: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 04:25:52 AM
This thread is to document that I am buying Amazon GC from nitetrader.
First transaction, buying $50 Amazon GC for 8.7629BTC. Payment will be sent to 14tXHENdQbfSEcceDMMmgefaVkr57RY5yf


Title: Re: Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 04:47:58 AM
payment sent. Apparently he is a newbie and needs to wait some time before he can post.
He's already sent me the GC code, and it loads fine.


Title: Re: Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader
Post by: nitetrader on March 08, 2012, 04:35:58 PM
Thanks to chungenhung for making a newbie feel at home. The first transaction was successful. Refreshing every 10 mins or so. When you get here we will proceed with the other two trades. Thanks!


Title: Re: Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 05:37:11 PM
Apparently the cards may be stolen.
I ask for prove that he purchased the cards, and he sent me
-------- Begin forwarded message --------
Subject: Your Order with Amazon.com
Date: 3/7/12 9:38:28 PM
From: "Amazon.com Gift Cards" <auto-confirm@amazon.com>
To: nitetrading@charter.net
 
 
Thank you for your Amazon.com gift card order!
 
Order information:
------------------------------------------------------------
Gift Card(s) Ordered (Order #105-0145151-8427473)
------------------------------------------------------------
Send to: soconcerned@live.com
Amount: $50.00
Quantity: 4
------------------------------------------------------------
Subtotal: $200.00
Shipping: FREE
Tax: $0.00
-------
TOTAL: $200.00
 
Please note: If this order is for a printable gift card, you will be
receiving an e-mail with a link to your gift card shortly. To see the
latest information about your order, please visit Your Account at:
http://www.amazon.com/your-account
 
Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com!
 
Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that
cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message.
 
------------------------------------------------------------
Amazon.com
Earth's Biggest Selection
http://www.amazon.com
-----------------------------------------------------------
I contacted Amazon, and the info is fake.
So nitetrader, I suggest you return my bitcoin now. As Amazon would be removing the value from my account.


Title: Re: Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 05:39:05 PM
My chat with Amazon
Code:
Me:order placed by nitetrading@charter.net
I don't know the person that placed the order
Apparently, nitetrading@charter.net buy it, gave it to soconcerned@live.com
Now, soconcerned@live.com is trying to sell the card to me
I just want to make sure that the info is correct, otherwise it could be a stolen card
Kelly:I'm sorry, without that name of the person who actually placed the order, I'm not able to give any information out. However, I can say that an order with that number does exist.
Me:but can you tell me the info I give you seem legitimate?
I am doing this because I don't want to buy from him if the card is stolen
Kelly:I understand. I'm very sorry, though, that I am not able to give you further information. The email you gave me is not one the order was placed under.
Me:So nitetrading@charter.net did not place the order?
Kelly:No, the order was not placed under that email.
Me:and it is not soconcerned@live.com either?
Kelly:No, not that one, either.


Title: Re: Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader
Post by: nitetrader on March 08, 2012, 05:45:11 PM
The cards are NOT stolen and if someone is interested I will send them the correct information to their PM given that they DO NOT publish my information on public boards. I like my BTC anonymous for reasons I don't need to share here. To me this was very unprofessional.

I have the x2 legitimate Amazon Cards if anybody wants them. Please post here or PM. 16BTC for both.


Title: Re: Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 05:57:34 PM
I have requested the real information and will check with amazon once it is provided.  I don't want to see a newbie wrongly marked as a scammer so I will verify this.
I used the exact info he gave me in my PM.
I've also asked him for the "corrected" info, since he claims what I had was wrong.
If he provide the legit info, and I verify with Amazon, I will make another post saying he is legit.


Title: Re: Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader
Post by: nitetrader on March 08, 2012, 05:58:00 PM
PROOF PLEASE? Just because you had a conversation with Amazon and they could not  the sender address does NOT mean they were stolen. As I stated earlier I did not want to tie my BTC to my email. For anybody that wants to PM me I will share the reasons although I shouldn't need too. I understand you being cautions but you should have had proof before you did this.

I am letting both cards go fot 16BTC to the individual that can confirm with Amazon that these are not stolen and then post your findings here.


Title: Re: Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader
Post by: nitetrader on March 08, 2012, 05:58:54 PM
I have requested the real information and will check with amazon once it is provided.  I don't want to see a newbie wrongly marked as a scammer so I will verify this.
I used the exact info he gave me in my PM.
I've also asked him for the "corrected" info, since he claims what I had was wrong.
If he provide the legit info, and I verify with Amazon, I will make another post saying he is legit.

Fair enough. Sending PM now.


Title: Re: Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 06:02:41 PM
PROOF PLEASE? Just because you had a conversation with Amazon and they could not  the sender address does NOT mean they were stolen. As I stated earlier I did not want to tie my BTC to my email. For anybody that wants to PM me I will share the reasons although I shouldn't need too. I understand you being cautions but you should have had proof before you did this.

I am letting both cards go fot 16BTC to the individual that can confirm with Amazon that these are not stolen and then post your findings here.
What does this mean "Just because you had a conversation with Amazon and they could not  the sender address does NOT mean they were stolen."?
Everyone BEWARE, a few members are investigating this issue now.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 06:05:51 PM
i am going to let OgNasty check it, as I assume you also PM him the supposedly "corrected" info.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: nitetrader on March 08, 2012, 06:09:02 PM
I would like to apologize for the confusion. As chungenhung suggested in PM I should have just redacted my email address if I wanted to remain anonymous. I am new to this I will do that next time.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 06:18:23 PM
Apparently this other rep did not want to disclose any info without the original purchaser's name and address.
Still chatting and finding other ways to verify.
Update. The rep told me the code is not part of the order.
Looks like we got a scammer, but I will let you guys decide.
Code:
Karen:Do you have the claim code?
Me:yes
X8K7-3QPS4C-4PH9
let me know if it is indeed from that order
Karen:The claim code you've provided is not part of that order.
Does that answer your question?


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 06:27:47 PM
This is what Amazon told me
Quote
Thank you for your patience. Unfortunately I'll not be able to help you as the order # you've provided is with another account. Due to security reasons I'm unable to look into the order details.

I wasn't able to confirm.  In my opinion that doesn't make him a scammer, but I will stay away from these cards all the same.
They all say that initially, but will answer to simple yes/no questions. As I don't think that is revealing any real sentitive data that we don't already have.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 06:28:41 PM
I guess we will find out for real if my account gets investigated and closed.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: nitetrader on March 08, 2012, 06:36:21 PM
This is unbelievable. I still have the 2 cards for %70. They are NOT stolen and nobody can prove they were because they aren't. If anybody wants to go on teamview while I chat with amazon and confirm they are not stolen.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: Inaba on March 08, 2012, 06:42:54 PM
I'll do it


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: nitetrader on March 08, 2012, 07:03:42 PM
SOLD! to OgNasty for a great price. Enjoy your gift cards and be sure to post here when you receive your goods. Thanks for taking a chance on a wrongly accused newbie.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: chungenhung on March 08, 2012, 08:46:41 PM
This is unbelievable. I still have the 2 cards for %70. They are NOT stolen and nobody can prove they were because they aren't. If anybody wants to go on teamview while I chat with amazon and confirm they are not stolen.
You are right, I can't prove them are stolen.
BUT, the info you provided me both times were ALL fake, as I've verified with Amazon.
For me, I assume your cards are stolen. I'll let other forums guys decide on their own.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: nitetrader on March 08, 2012, 09:49:51 PM
This is unbelievable. I still have the 2 cards for %70. They are NOT stolen and nobody can prove they were because they aren't. If anybody wants to go on teamview while I chat with amazon and confirm they are not stolen.
You are right, I can't prove them are stolen.
BUT, the info you provided me both times were ALL fake, as I've verified with Amazon.
For me, I assume your cards are stolen. I'll let other forums guys decide on their own.

Let's see your chat log from the second time you contacted Amazon. You conveniently didn't post it because they never told you that. This guy has it out for me and obviously has a problem admitting when he makes a mistake.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: Maged on March 09, 2012, 06:53:05 AM
chungenhung, it is impossible to know for sure if a gift card is stolen until the gift card is removed. That is because they can also be bought with stolen credit cards.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: bitpop on March 09, 2012, 08:26:48 AM
whats the status


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: occulta on March 09, 2012, 12:59:46 PM
I suggest stay away from the $10 , $25 and $50 cards etc, as they are physical cards you can buy from stores and ALOT are stolen....  BTC is then a great way to launder the money. I know of people who this happened to, and had their amazon account closed.

just my 2cent


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: bitpop on March 09, 2012, 01:19:19 PM
you cant steal cards from stores


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: LoupGaroux on March 09, 2012, 01:29:40 PM
Yes you can... there are a number of retail stores that have displays of gift cards that include Amazon in amounts up to $100. An accomplished shoplifter could lift many of these. What you cannot steal from the store is the activation for those cards, unless you have a way of falsifying a transaction and can swipe the card to register the validation of the number.

The raw cards do have a code, and will show up in the Amazon system as a legit code, but they won't be spendable, as there is no assigned value with an authorization on them.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: ataranlen on March 09, 2012, 03:12:13 PM
whats the status

Item has shipped.  I do not think there will be a problem.  I have purchased several thousand dollars in gift cards on these forums in small amounts and my Amazon.com account keeps chugging along...  Has anyone actually had their Amazon.com account closed because of using stolen gift cards, or is that a cyber legend?

I've never had an account closed for entering an non-active gift card. ;)


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: ataranlen on March 09, 2012, 03:55:28 PM
I've never had an account closed for entering an non-active gift card. ;)

This thread is not about non-active gift cards.

I know, but someone brought them up, I thought I should give my two cents.  >:(


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: occulta on March 09, 2012, 06:49:11 PM
whats the status

Item has shipped.  I do not think there will be a problem.  I have purchased several thousand dollars in gift cards on these forums in small amounts and my Amazon.com account keeps chugging along...  Has anyone actually had their Amazon.com account closed because of using stolen gift cards, or is that a cyber legend?

As you know i sell a LARGE $ sum of cards every month, and have been for 2 years now. One of my regular buyers opted for some of these cards and had his account closed due to the code being used twice or something?, i wouldnt have said it otherwise :)


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: rexcoin on March 09, 2012, 06:53:25 PM
whats the status

Item has shipped.  I do not think there will be a problem.  I have purchased several thousand dollars in gift cards on these forums in small amounts and my Amazon.com account keeps chugging along...  Has anyone actually had their Amazon.com account closed because of using stolen gift cards, or is that a cyber legend?

As you know i sell a LARGE $ sum of cards every month, and have been for 2 years now. One of my regular buyers opted for some of these cards and had his account closed due to the code being used twice or something?, i wouldnt have said it otherwise :)

If a code is used already amazon will reject any other tries i never heard of amazon freezing accounts for that ever.
Maybe your customer was using a amazon code generator, but then that would defeat the purpose of buying from you?


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: occulta on March 09, 2012, 07:01:20 PM
No, my customer bought from somebody selling the physical cards, when he called them once his account was closed (they reopening it) they said the card was most likely stolen. If you want when he comes to me for another order in a few days i will clarify exactly what happened in that case. He is a very trustworthy person who i have been dealing with for well over a year and he we never use a 'code generator' ive never even heard of that.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: rexcoin on March 09, 2012, 07:09:49 PM
No, my customer bought from somebody selling the physical cards, when he called them once his account was closed (they reopening it) they said the card was most likely stolen. If you want when he comes to me for another order in a few days i will clarify exactly what happened in that case. He is a very trustworthy person who i have been dealing with for well over a year and he we never use a 'code generator' ive never even heard of that.

I am sorry i did not mean to sound like i was arguing, i just never heard of that was all.
Ah i never had a problem with a stolen card or anything - so i dont know much about that.
I believe you, we dont need to bother your customer to post here - no worries.
Hmm Code Generators are SCAMS, they usally just put a virus on your computer. They dont work like 99.99% of the time, its so so rare when they do work but it is not worth the virus on your computer..

The thing is when they do work its basically theft, because you have taken someone elses amazon gift number from the generator and used it.

Yea i know about generators because i used one for neopets.com - i was 13 at the time and the generator didnt work and stole my account instead..........And i never got it back because they CHANGED all details, i actually cried when i found out someone took my account. I had millions of neopoints, rare ass items, ect.. And i worked for it all, well lesson learned i will NEVER use a generator ever again, and i have not used it ever since.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Still investigating.
Post by: chungenhung on March 10, 2012, 08:55:19 PM
This is unbelievable. I still have the 2 cards for %70. They are NOT stolen and nobody can prove they were because they aren't. If anybody wants to go on teamview while I chat with amazon and confirm they are not stolen.
You are right, I can't prove them are stolen.
BUT, the info you provided me both times were ALL fake, as I've verified with Amazon.
For me, I assume your cards are stolen. I'll let other forums guys decide on their own.

Let's see your chat log from the second time you contacted Amazon. You conveniently didn't post it because they never told you that. This guy has it out for me and obviously has a problem admitting when he makes a mistake.
I did post the second chat log. Just because you are blind doesn't mean I didn't post it.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: chungenhung on March 10, 2012, 08:57:58 PM
you cant steal cards from stores
No you can't. Because they are there for you to take.
You can take all your want, but that doesn't mean it would be activated.


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: nitetrader on March 12, 2012, 01:02:30 AM
chungenhung I would really appreciate it if you would remove the BEWARE in your thread title. Please change it out for resolved tags. I have had several transactions now and there have been no issues. I know you meant well with this and were only protecting the community but I am not here to scam anybody. In fact I was scammed on here for 15 coin today myself. Its hard enough trusting people around here without BEWARE signs pointing at them. Lol. Thanks for your consideration. -NT


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: ciprian220 on May 02, 2016, 01:45:22 AM
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AMAZON.....DON T USE IT


Title: Re: BEWARE. Buying Amazon Gift card from nitetrader. Read for your own info.
Post by: notserp on May 02, 2016, 06:06:16 AM
lol wtf bumping a 4 year old thread