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ok so quarkcoin is down to the ground, prize almost 4 free?  i read Kolin Evans the leader of Quark killed someone who lost his money cuz of the Bill Still Pump he did. is it true- seems hard to believe?  would u rate this coin a buy hold or sell? i dont see innovation or anything so im pretty undecided but think dont buy is best attitude.  i usually hate shitcoins and prefer bitcoin only.

PlZ share ur opinions.  ThX!

~CfA~

Kolin is not the 'leader', there are other guys as well which are pretty dedicated and respectful and more involved in steering things and working behind the scenes like Vic, quarkfx and others. these guys are part of the core team. They are pretty ambitious and i'm pretty happy with them as someone who holds some quark, Vic played an important role in ShaqFu as well.

Well innovation, you don't see much innovation with Bitcoin either. There is this anonymity feature which i think is overrated.

Quark pretty much shocked the Crypto world when it came out just because it was different than Bitcoin. (Multiple hashing, different model, faster block halving etc.) That why some didn't like it when they saw that all the attention from the main currencies suddently went to Quark. But hey which coin haven't been pumped? It's always the same lame excuse, but i personally like Quark and it's still active to date and has achived some nice things.

i would rate it niether buy or sell, if you have it i guess hold, by design something that starts out with a large award and over a period of a few weeks becomes a small award to me is a faulty design which only can benefit people who mined early , some say the same of bitcoin but the 50 to 25 reduction was 4 years , no a couple of weeks like quark.

with quark i remember after the first block half cut the price dipped so low it was almost nothing, a lot of people loaded up then, the coin may have only been traded on cryptsy at the time, can't really remember was about a year ago i think 

when max and the other people pumped the coin a lot of people made money but i think a lot of people who were duped into buying it at that inflated fake price were ripped off

oh well

not the first or last time it will happen, people never seem to listen,

wow i haven't heard of quark coin for a while whew. thought it's another new coin 

why is it scam?

ThiS?:



~CfA~

 
Quark ? Never heard about it...
or maybe long ago...
you know, shit coin die and are forgotten very quick, strong coins remain.

Who has the money to invest in dead coins ?

Who the fuck cares, Bitcoin premined 1 million as well. dark instamined like 40%, NXT 100% premined out of thin air. They just nailed it in promoting stop being butthurt. Not every coin has to be exactly the same as Bitcoin.

It seems that quark scared the shit out of some peeps and 6 months later they still not over it, cry babies. This makes me like quark even more and hope it succeeds tbh couse i don't like 2 faced cocksuckers like you bashing coins for own profit lol

hi newbie just FYI i didnt bash anything.  i asked why he thinks QUARK is a scam . . .
read b4 u post shit dude ::)

~CfA~

I remember that list, it's from ages ago when quark was skyrocketing, some litecoiners got mad they saw the attention from litecoin went to quark and some well known peeps mentioned it, so they came up with this shit list. Doge and nxt have way more coins.

if you need to ask this shit you are no smarter than a moron that would spend 20 grand life savings on a strangers misc public trade advice.

don't march around like you know all about this shit making snotty know it all comments than play dumb stirring up drama with mega dumb questions.

coming from captain MemoryCoin ? wow you got some nerve lol

Memory Coin was the scammiest coin i ever seen in crypto and you were the literally the biggest and oldest bag holder fanboy of it.

nuff said.

edit:
You even let the guy screw you TWICE with the same scam ! hahah
..gullible  ::)

Lol scammed what ? I was mining Memorycoin 1.0 on my desktop computer from work.
Then I tried mining Memorycoin 2.0 and it didn't work so I gave up.

Sorry if you bought Memorycoin and lost but I never did so don't worry for me.

It just isn't worth of buy just look at graph of the price, it was just pure pump and dump so let it die. And that guy claiming he invested 20k$ is fake sockpuppet as he isn't willing to provide proof and is deleting posts asking for it.

^ Why would you let a coin which is going to be featured in a half million dollar game available for console for the first time which even Bitcoin hasn't pulled of die? You 're out of your mind.

I've lost some money with quark myself, althought only minimum. Do you think half milion is alot of money in terms of cryptocurrencies markets? I don't.
And i'm not following quark lately so i don't know about their news.

Half million is a decent amount for a game don't know about you. Basically quark partnered with Big Deez Productions and Shaquille O'neal which are going to make a game called ShaqFu a legend reborn which is going to be released in 2015 where Quark can be used as in-game purchases. See here game teaser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfEqhmkatog and behind the scenes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfLuPc6bOGE. It's devs have worked with games such as HALO, Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, Alan Wake, Spec Ops: The Line, Battlefield, Killzone, Max Payne, Duke Nukem

They even made a special Quark item which can only be used by those purchasing with Quark

https://i.imgur.com/JBhJdKB.jpg

And the cool thing is that this game will be available for not just pc and steam, but also wii, xbox30, xbox one, ps3 and ps4 and thats the first time we see this.

So when you say let it die, think about Cryptos future, because if this is successful we will see more games going Crypto.

Hmm i'll just wait and leave it to destiny, maybe i'll feel ashamed in 1-2 years :)

Lots of people use this as an excuse for altcoins but it's a really poor comparison in my opinion.

Bitcoin was the innovator. Bitcoin doesn't have to compete with alts(yet anyway).

I wonder why quark is so cheap, but I don't buy now, I'll wait some weeks, maybe it will be more cheaper :)

let me just fix that for you masked avenger.

"you know, shit coin die and are forgotten very quick, strong coins remain."

he was really saying:

"you know,currencies that flow with the free market find a free market price, and scammer hype dies quick, currency we can price manipulate in theory can stay high "forever"."

better?

didn't this dupe support Ripple?, if so lol chump.

just redefine "forever" to "until us original scammers" sells out.

damn +1 !

and just a word on respect -:

when I come here to play with the monkeys - i tend to treat them like monkeys, they sometimes get offended because they have often been walking around thinking they were human, when actually all they are is little pathetic forum scamees, sometimes scams are very polite as they take your money.

now let me go through the NXT scameee's list there. :


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.0  < why don't you go to the ANN and check how many people mined it you will see lots of numbers next to their name and even logos so you will know that at least the sock puppet crazy wasn't as bad back then.

then go and check what happened to the price after that you dupe, it was dumped onto Exchange and declined to near zero, why didn't you buy it then chump?

https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/71


I can prove your first point is wrong buy the price - otherwise this is the biggest conspiracy since the merger of the 911 and JFK in which JFK goes back in time and causes 911  - so these conspiritors wait for the price to go to effectively 0  (see previous chart)

then they did what?

Bill Purchased some and was donated some - so what?

as far as i know Max has his own cash/BTC and purchased if he did?



The higher market cap was a direct result of the people on here recognizing a name "Max K" - as most people are fairly uneducated with the history of monetary reform if just Bill Still had of stayed talking about it, the wider audience would have slowly brought in as some of the forum miners sold out, however when they recognized Max they did not sell and other people kept buying resulting in a exuberant Cap.

so what thats called "a market" .

idiots look at market caps a lot- its the only scam in town at the moment, you show me the currency and i can show you the market cap manipulation attempt, we are free of that now, adn when you deduct all the scams we sit highly still with the tiny list of  the real crypto currencies  AND THIS i suspect is why Quark still scares these monkeys.

The deadcoin cemetery is full of indispensable cryptos.

all the ones you support for example with Monero copying the Quark EQ.

and your gimmick there is that its "hard to use" so you release it on this forum full of monkey.

then you mine it out yourself agreeing to not sell, then the designers (after its mined out)

do a full "redesign" and all the gimmicks and features become "polished and new"

hate to let you down chump.....here's a secret ready:


As everything on here is manipulated (except for Quark and a few others)

you can't define what people like, now i know this is going to be hard for you to understand, but i will give an example:

"Anonymity"

are the people of the world crying out for it in crypto ?
and what do we base that on.....price?

you show me the Crypto and i will show you the price manipulation,and then i can show you other so called "anonymous" crypto that don't have a high valuation at all

so throw that out ha ha.

what about sock puppet activity on the forum, i mean that's got to be a sure winner for the fact that :

The wider human population are crying out for ring signatures ha ha ha ...

see where i'm going with all that ?

so you mine out your new tech its at the EQ reward that you borrowed from Quark, and what do you have now?

Not CNN chump, be sure of that, for that your going to have to shoot higher make some "friends on the inside" ha ha.

I know what this dude's problem is , you can handle that back in the day before the endless supply of crap, that this is when you really needed to do something that mattered.

you see Litecoin got out of the blocks in that time, and then there was some junk; some "pre mine" currencies and other ones that had "super blocks" at the start etc.

but way back then if you were not a completely monkey scammer  (as Max was not) , and Prime etc and a few others.

and you got out of the blocks back then, your crypto "brand" is probably forever stamped in history.

so i think that this guys is pissed, because the shit he supports is release amongst the "universal scam" system and thus will struggle to find any relevance at all, because everyone is looking at fake "market caps" there is a lot of pressure to try to fake it up otherwise the "forum" will call it "dead" ha ha .

you touched on a bunch of very real problems ie: marketcap faking etc
it's just too much retarded bs to explain OVER AND OVER AN DOVER day in and ay out to fucking retards.. it's exhausting.
and worse these idiots then agree with you later after fighting you on a forum for a 1,000 pages..
where is the Doge tards ?

You bet your god damn ass there is market cap manipulation and i have proof of shit loads of it an di had to harras coinmarketcap to do soemthing about it.

by myself..

NOT A SINGLE GUY in crypto spoke up.. what in the god damn hell does that tell me ?

No.

it tell you that when everyone is scamming do something different because there is an "education revolution" coming to crypto -

in just the same way people understand what a P/E ratio is - people will soon look at :

- Halving
- Pre mines
- IPO scams
- PoW distribution
- Mining monopoly and price control.  

education is at zero now - we the crypto world constitutes some TV Bitcoin memes and sound bites - on RT just a day ago there was a picture :

http://rt.com/op-edge/170492-bitcoin-revolution-wins-world/ (http://rt.com/op-edge/170492-bitcoin-revolution-wins-world/)

ah great have a look its still there - in an OP ED in which ....well just have a look at the second picture .

so we are at ZERO education and of course people/monkeys  are taking advantage of that.

but what happens when we move past Zero - will the tide go out leaving a lot of potentially pissed of people?

think about it...


http://rt.com/op-edge/170492-bitcoin-revolution-wins-world/ (http://rt.com/op-edge/170492-bitcoin-revolution-wins-world/)
https://i.imgur.com/kJn73JI.jpg?1?2574

the little orange sign reads :


"not actual miner for display purposes only ....."

Quark reddit and forum is a ghost town.

Where does the Quark community meet?

They meet here.

digitalindustry is all Quark community.

the Monero one meets here because they are rehashing the "CPU only scam" - and no one knows how to use it yet.  have to wait until they mined it all.

just because our investor don't spam the internet with dog memes, doesn't exactly constitute a bad network effect tard.

in fact if most of them don't know what reddit is id be really happy.

here's a bet for you , Quark V Monero -

Monero in the can in a few years , Quark going stronger than ever.

Quarkcoin was an obvious scam. But the fact that they are still standing and still working hard developing the coin after the price crashed 94% have made me reconcider. I dont consider quark a scam any more.

Compared to obvious scams like darkcoin and nxt it would be quite unfair towards quark calling it a scam at this time.

Hi,
I managed to mine some quarks at the beginning and also earned some with the time and had a lot of hope on this coin the last year.... But o well right now it seems like it is slowly dying on all the exchanges.  Do not have any more hope for this coin, but still holding mine and even if it hits 0 i will not sell them. My advise is not to buy this coin right now :(

ok i have made my decision
based on the suggestions here its definitely a strong sell cuz its dead

~CfA~

don't forget that your a NXT sock puppet - when your are logging in on 15 different accounts you can easily get caught up in a persona !

sorry i really didn't think you scammers would take it that personally actually - i kind of thought the conversation woudl go like this :

"hmm yeah well we are a scam so, lets kind of shut the fuck up and let this guy tell real people that, leave it alone and scam the idiots that come to this forum for advice...."

but you guys just never left it alone ha ha !

sorry broz.

shut ur filthy mouth newbie, im one of the biggest opponents of nxt/nem/ntx/nxtwhatever in this forum.

what an idiot lmao :D  leave my eyes. its my freedom not wanting to buy ur shitcoin.  now what?   u have no tolerance?

~CfA~

He is against everyone. He made the whole Quark community gave up.
Now he is all alone.

He is funny though.

the outcast must leave

~CfA~

+1 u nail it dude.  yeh the only reason quark is relevant is cuz its leader digitalindustry Kolin Evans is attacking every one on the forums except quark shills and threatens them.  its a fucking hardcore joke.  its relevant cuz it got awareness suddenly bcuz of the Kolin Evans Bill Still scam.

ROFL

~CfA~

Cheers - i have a method : D

I want to bump this to go with my point on another topic showing your incessant Lying and Trolling OP.
Every day for a week or two you have been pounding this places with lies and games and bs about Quark
in defense of criticism on NXT and more specifically about a common way NXT works..

Both have ANN topics that lay out the truth for all to see so your lying is stupid and pointless.  ::)

I don´t mind people posting that Quark is dead. Bad news is good news - people keep telling that since January and no, it´s still not dead, particularly the community.

I understood that people complained about the "Quark premine scam". It was false from the very beginning and a bad observation of a real problem that is false market cap assumptions: Quark bumped to the top 5 coins because it was distributing quicker than other coins and that´s why people would call it premine. This way people believed it was more valuable and there went the snowball effect. It wasn´t a scam though. I believe that few people earned money from the pump, but then I find it ridiculous to blame people for pumping as this is the main activity of 90% of all people in Altcoin. I hate it as well, but it´s a fact and the people who earn from this are usually not miners but traders who didn´t contribute to the currency in any way.

People keep repeating shit (especially speculators) and some people even thought it was true and repeated it as well over and over again but Quark was never premined, it was only one of the first coins with a quick distribution scheme. In some sense it is funny that Quark is still getting this kind of shit storms (or rather shit breeze) while other coins like Darkcoinwere actually premining and distributing in a way quicker manner.

I think Quark was told to be dead over and over again and it´s true that this scares off people, but I don´t see why it shouldn´t recover.

Btw. Kolin is not Quark, he is neither the developer nor an official spokesperson. Also, he never killed anybody as was told be the OP. I also think that this talking about "NXT sockpuppets" needs to stop. It feels like reading conspiracy theories.

Let me quote me on this one:

I don't know if it was a scam. What I do think is that Quark was a clever idea badly executed.
Me and a few other guys took over a quark clone (metacoin). We're trying to come with a better execution and focus on innovation.

I don´t mind people disagreeing with the attempt to go for a quick decrease of inflation and I don´t see why it shouldn´t be done in a year or even more instead of 6 months. Fact is that even if it would be 10 years then the main criticism that has been brought to Quark would still apply to every clone and every other crypto: given the fact that crypto is still far away from mainstream every launch gives huge advantages to current miners.
That´s why I think it is not really intelligent to talk about a "badly executed" idea. What matters is if you can get enough creative and powerful people behind you to get your idea going. Every Alt has compared to Bitcoin these problem as it has a good headstart but as long as people are motivated I don´t see why any project with some dozens of supporters can´t be successful in the end.

Good luck to your project anyway!

note the original title of this thread when I posted to it was the guy asking if he should buy quark, now I see he changed the topic of the thread obviously on purpose, 

Tell me how much % of the total supply of QRK will exist has already been mined...

Then you will see why it is a scam.

99.999%?

note my earlier comment / we are  on the same path here/ i just stop short of calling it a scam

that is for others to decide,  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678410.msg7689514#msg7689514

Kolin isn't Quark.
Kolin does make some points on his blog regarding NXT and Litecoin. Its hard for some to admit but he has been right about Litecoin. You can see it now. Even Dogecoin.  Shit, after Kolin's post about NXT I went and bought some. Why? Well my rational is, if people can forget about Bitcoin's premine, accuse Quark of having one, and then forget about pre-mining again with Darkcoin, Blackcoin, and NXT, then there is money to be made.  He brought a lot of heat to Quark with the way he handles himself on posts, yes. But again, Kolin isn't Quark. If you ask him, he will tell you flat out what he believes is wrong with Quark and needs work. If your like me, you can read between the 'trolling' when regarding Cryptos. Social manipulation is strong in the Crypto community. Of course it is, money is at stake.

But no OP, Quark isn't a scam.
Here, the problems with Quark has been the Dev's communication with the community. This has gotten better in the last few months since there was an outcry and IMO the biggest problem is Quark's hashrate. Though a solution is in the works right now from the development team. Time will tell.
I'm no Quark bag holder, nor a heavy crypto miner. Just a long term investor and I stick to my crypto investment plan. With that said,  I've bought enough Quark at this time. There is no denying that Quark is unique still to this day and can have a great future. Buy, mine or forget about it, your choice.

The statement is wrong and demonstrates ignorance with regard to crypto distribution schemes:

People argue that the main part of Quark is already distributed and they are right in some way: If you started mining directly after release you had a huge advantage over a person who starts mining now. Is that unfair? Maybe. However, this problem will always exist. In fact, it exists with Bitcoin and will exist with every other cryptocurrency. You should realize that the people who are mining now are avant-garde and a tiny percentage of the population we expect to adopt crypto - once the mainstream adopts crypto every PoW coin that exists today will be sort of "distributed" with only small chances to mine a stake.

And no, Quark isn´t mined 99,999% because you can´t apply disitrbution percentage if there is no final distribution. You can only apply this argument only if you set a final distribution set as in most PoW coins. Bitcoin's final distribution ends in 2140 but Quark will be distributed afterwards.

However, just for a moment let´s assume that Quark´s distribution would end in the same year where Bitcoin´s final coin is distributed. You´ll find out that currently ~ 60.5% of all BTC are already distributed and only slightly more Quark (65.2%)

Bitcoins total: 21,000,000
Bitcoins already distributed: 12,715,024
Bitcoins distributed in 2140: 21,000,000
percentage distributed: 60.5%

Quark total: ∞
Quarks already distributed: 247,813,937
Quarks distributed in 2140: 380,113,937
percentage distributed (calculated for 2140): 65.2%

Do your own math and you will find out there are many other coins with a "worse" distribution scheme. Anyway the debates we have now will be irrelevant in the future because with regard to future miners all current coins can be considered 99% or even 100% distributed. It simply doesn´t matter. It only matters if you are miner who missed the start of a coin (of any coin) and this argument isn´t really convincing to me.

How are those ASICs working out for you chump?

: D

Think about this ...

Combination of ASICs + a better distribution than complete mining control = Dogecoin ?

Ha ha ha !

Are all those LTC in that bag getting heavy Smoothie?

Hopefully your load will lighten as the price drops?

: )

Quarkfx - if you are a bit new to the monkey jungle "dead" means :

we stopped scamming the trade volume and we want to to buy our new scam.

NXT is far from "dead" - LTC is really Healthy based on this.

ha ha .

The question ? hmmmm

well i say yes and no..
yes right now because coins have tanked in value and i think a rebound is coming.
otherwise i am not so sure "it's worth a buy"
based on what criteria ?
Will it have a short term rise in value ? i doubt it..
long term ? maybe i dunno.

But hey nobody wants a real answer..

http://i58.tinypic.com/23hrv2t.jpg

Topic Translation:
digitalindustry pointed out how NXT and other coins that are similar are scammy
and the cheerleaders decided to troll on him non stop with lies about Quark coin.

nothing more to it..

SPOETNIK AND DIGITALINDUSTY u guys cant stay away with the nxt junk from my topic cant u? this topic is about quark and not ur nxt shit. get it already

is it bcuz u dont have any arguments that u have to promote the nxt? . . . lame . . .

~CfA~

Let me explain some points:

Decrease of inflation is good because otherwise the currency isn't viable. But quark and other bitcoin-like crypto because of their design are not threatened by inflation (at least in long term), therefore the main concern should be broad adoption and not inflation. If 99% of bitcoins were distributed in the first 6 months it wouldn't have worked. Don't think that it's problem of the timeframe of coin distribution, because if quarkcoin was released by let's say apple or facebook, 6 months or one year would have been enough, but quark devs are not famous or mainstream, so yes 6 month is extremely short.

I don't blame the premine, it's non-sense. A premined currency can work. It's just that early adopters tend to dislike premined currencies, especially because devs endup by dumping and destroy their currency.

And yes a motivated project team can be successful in the end as long as more and more people get involved and embrace the project.

I guess everybody will shut up if quark was distributed in the one week as blackcoin did.

Wow a sensible new account?

very relevant points here - however lets certainly define some important points:

- Quark PoW distribution period was via CPU no one challenges that.
- it was dumped on to the exchange market and went very low (in theory giving anyone a chance to buy)

however what i will concede to you is:

- yes the "Anybody" is not a large part of the market - this comes back to your "Apple" statements

- so I then tried to at the lowest point  in valuation "broaden that base" of "anybody"   and  this worked to a degree.


So lets contrast that with say Bitcoin:

- in the fist "half" up to halving of most long distribution Crypto 50% of all the currency is released, (fact for Bitcoin) so from Genisis block to first halving (obviously)
- Bitcoin started in obscurity in 2009  ( not its fault but still a fact)

- by the time the fist halving passed 50% of all the currency was distributed but the numbers of people that where aware of it were tiny.

+

then Bitcoin deviated from the economic principals of  "one CPU one Vote" and this meant that mining monopoly took hold.

now the "back half" after the first halving can not be mined by "personal computer users"

so now back to Quark:

- Quark can always be mined by a Personal computer user
- The EQ reward guarantees that new people can always gain it
- The price in terms of paper currency is very low.

all these things spell better distribution in the future.

every thing Bitcoin has spells;  > centralization -> "Crisis" then > "Collapse." > evolution > Recovery.

its just a different model.

none of those scams count hence no one talks about them.

if there was no reasonable PoW period + Price is valued high = manipulated scam. ( in most cases)

they probably justify it to themselves by saying:

"well its really no different  Bitcoin ! no one knew about it up to first halving then no one can mine it now! so what are we doing wrong !? " 

that's fine, i'm fine with that, what they don't understand is that the market will become more educated not less, so i'm going to get on that side of the market.