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Hello, I am here to warn you that Dareq is a scam.

Monday I tried to buy 28 BTS to Dareq (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=65097.0) via Paypal for $134 (I paid by card). He said he would send the bit coins 12 hours later, so that he could do some verifications and stuff.

Tuesday, I checked my BTC account and didn't have any btw from him. I asked him what was up, and he told me that paypal had blocked the payment. He says he doesn't know why, probably because his account is not a verified account.

On MSN he told me that I could get chargeback. I'm not used to paypal, so I figured out I had to start a dispute. I turned the dispute into a complaint, in which I said exactly this : "I didn't receive the product. Seller told me the payment was blocked by paypal and that I had to start a dispute to "chargeback". Thats what I'm doing. I didn't receive the product."

Now, paypal is waiting for his Dareq's answer. He has to reply before march 16th.

Wednesday, my bank account got charged of $134. I though the payment was blocked ??


Of course, he blocked me on MSN and won't reply to my PM.

I'm sorry, that sucks. But why would you use someone who refuses to use escrow services, and refuses to trade with trusted people?

I thought one couldn't be scammed over paypal.

He used this paypal address : Bazyleks@hotmail.com (Barbara Bazylaks)

Fail. http://paypalsucks.com/

Considering the second post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=65097.msg763080#msg763080) there...

How can I get my money back ? I already filed a complaint on Paypal. Is that enough ?

Have your bank reverse the payment to PayPal. (PayPal will ban you forever if you do this, though.)

The money has already been taken from my account so .. ?

Actually I don't know if the money has been frozen in his account. He told me his account was blocked but that's probably another lie ..
I started the dispute like 24hours after the payment.

Well, he did took it into consideration, because he PM'd me when he started suspecting dareq would ot send him the bitcoins.
He decided to risk it and he lost. It sucks, but I bet he knows he has nobody else to blame but himself.
You should thank him because he's telling everyone he got fooled and that dareq is a scammer.
Probably will avoid someone else of getting scammed.

@OP: You're going to hear this a lot in this thread but-- Paypal is a scam and you fell for it. Never use Paypal for Bitcoins.

You can use Paypal for Bitcoins. I've bought some here and I'm in the process of buying some more right now.
But I will not get my name dirty for $100, hell, not even for $1000. I'm already dirty enough without being a scammer :P

Just a tip, If he does contact you and tries to tell you to cancel/mark resolved your dispute/complaint so he can refund the money, DON'T! This will prevent you from opening a new dispute. He can refund your money through the dispute portal.  ;)

Why didn't you ban him then or delete his thread?

Can't ban/censor people just because they might be a scammer.

So, do you think paypal is gonna give me the money back or do I have to call my bank ?

http://paypalsucks.com

You tell me? Do you think Paypal is going to give you your money?  :D

I had to file a dispute once (non bitcoin related), once it ended I got my money back, took like a month though.

Ok.

Thanks for your help. I'll keep the thread updated

My paypal account has been frozen and that's why I have asked OP to chargeback his money. He can easily do it via normal dispute or just via bank dispute, it doesn't really matter. I have already apologized him, and didnt ask him to send it as gift or to close dispute or something like that.

Thing is that I already spent some of it for online stuff, I just prefer paypal to close it by themselves and put my account on negative balance and i'll pay it later. easy as that.

Actually the PayPal won't refund the full amount. So OP would only get the funds that the PayPal recovered.

I see scam. :o

PayPal will refund OP the full amount because I already had situation like this and they always do.

So are you saying you can't pay the money back? What paypal might or might not do is irrelevant.

I cannot refund money because PayPal do not want to get my account on negative balance when I want , they will when they want and that's exact moment when OP get his money back. Anymore discussion about that is irrevelant.

See that's the important part, any problem you have with paypal is your problem. You were sent the money, you refuse to send the bitcoins, and cannot refund the money (because by your own admission, you spent it). That makes you a scammer. That is not irrelevant, it's the exactly what the topic is about which reads "dareq=scammer". Get a clue.


 

You're a cunt. A big, fat, ugly, cunt.

Exactly. The dispute with paypal isn't the solution, it's a consequence of a fraudulent transaction. It's still fraud. Just seems like he's trying to buy time so he can scam a few more people.

Dareq, simply refund your account and give me my money back :-\

It seems after reading the thread he really has no intention to pay you back the paypal or the bitcoins.
he wants to rely on paypal paying you back which is really wrong - not that i like paypal, but the fact is paypal wont "always" pay back the full amount and seeing as he said "this happened before" makes it even worse.

I suggest you start a credit card/debit card fraud case.  Which it does take a while, When i had to do this, and it was only for $10, they said it would take like 2 weeks for me to get the form, and then maybe a month or so to get the case reviewed.
Then again my debit card company sucked... I never went through with it because waiting all that time is not worth $10..

I didn't pay with a credit card but with a bank card, if it makes difference

So, dareq, or should I say SCAMMER, to me you refused to sell Bitcoins because what I offered you was less than what you wanted to sell, $200+, but to Potave you sold bitcoins worth only $134. Explain that if you can...

You're a fucking dirtbag and I called you a SCAMMER since day 1. I hate it when I'm right about scammers, because most of the times people just don't listen, or think I'm too fast to jump the gun, and they end up being scammed.

Potave, ask your bank to reverse the paypal payment. You may even lose your paypal account because of it, but you can be sure that this dirtbag account will get charged with the $134+whatever your bank decides to charge him for the process, usually around $20. And he'll also lose his account, which most likely isn't his, probably it was phished. He doesn't sound like a Barbara to me...

I don't see why paypal freezing your account has anything to do with the OP. You wanted to be paid for BTC through Paypal. He paid yu through Paypal. Send the man his BTC, scammer.

He is most likely using stolen paypal accounts.  Once you send the money he then buys stuff with the stolen account and makes you wait a day so the items he buys ship.  Then he tells you to reverse the charges on the stolen paypal account claiming it was frozen, etc.

He most likely has more stolen accounts, that's why he is still advertising.

What a piece of shit.

You have to link those credit cards to the account for that to work.

He is probably just shipping the items he buys to a house that is for sale down the street from him.

These are probably just non-verified accounts that he has phished with no money in them and not tied to a bank account/credit card.

The only way to get money into them is for someone to send it, so he scams it.

Then he changes shipping address on account and buys stuff, then he tells you it got frozen or some other excuse.

I didn't say he was smart. 

He might also just be setting up unverified paypal accounts himself and using them this way.

Pay up.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48863.msg633446#msg633446

Yup, Paypal only does full refunds when the account has no money if it was an ebay purchase.

Potave, wait for paypal resolution, and if they don't give you your money back in full, ask your bank to do a chargeback.

Usually an EFT reversal can only be requested within 5 days of the transaction.  There are usually fees involved as well. 

The amount also has to be the exact amount that was debited.

Some banks won't even do an EFT reversal against Paypal.

I bet he doesn't even have any BTC to sell.  Someone should make a verification service for people wanting to sell BTC.  They have to transfer X amount of bitcoins in good faith to a trusted member.(at least as many as they are offering for sale)  The trusted member would then return the coins and verify that the person offering coins actually has them in stock.

I am assuming he doesn't have any for sale in the first place.  Just another bottom feeding scammer.

Just get the mods to tag him as a scammer, post his IP and let it be done.

Court cases require evidence.

Evidence needs to be classified as evidence by legal representatives of law enforcement (i.e. cyber investigation squad).

FBI doesn't work in petty crimes.

TL;DR: Not gonna happen. In Bitcoin, we decide our own risk.

No clue. I think the saying stays true though:

"One ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

I've already talked to theymos, scammer tag is a certainty, he's just giving it a couple days to see if he changes his mind.

Who said anything about the FBI? Are you fucking crazy?

Dareq/Barbara is on Poland, Potave is French I suppose. It's an European matter. WE don't give a fuck about the FBI. Please stop being US-centric. I'm sure there is some EU authority to deal with fraud over the internet.

BULLSHIT!

I'm sorry guys, but that is a couple MORE days too late. This was an obvious scammer from day one. It was pointed out by everyone who read his initial threads and participated in his garbage "I have a secret way to make sure only I can lose" thread.

There was not one legit member of this community who accepted dareq's foolishness, and yet our Mods and Admins want to "wait a couple of days"??? Why, so some other poor dumb bastard can get taken by this piece of shit? So he can come here with some alternate identity and pull the same shit with Moneybookers or Amazon gift cards or some other technique?

HE IS A FUCKING SCAMMER- TAG HIM AS SUCH. Have the stones to actually do something pro-fucking-active for the community, instead of playing to see if dareq's conscience will get the better of him- IT WON'T. If he makes restitution to Potave, and is confirmed by Potave, then consider removing the SCAMMER tag- but do the right thing here.

Or stop pretending that you give a shit and will take action.

I think the current warnings are more than enough to ward off potential buyers for a couple days.  If people choose to ignore all that I don't think even a scammer tag would help them.

Assuming that people actually read the other threads on this board.

Seriously. If someone is naive enough to deal with him, do you really think they are familiar with the way things work here and read EVERY thread?

Wonder if the newbies section needs an empty sticky entitled "READ THE POST HISTORY OF ANYONE YOU ARE TRADING WITH AND BE SUSPICIOUS IF HE IS AS NEW AS YOU ARE, NOOB"

If I open my kitchen cupboard and find a cockroach scurrying around under there, I can choose to wait until he flits out of sight and pretend the problem has gone away.

Or I can solve the problem. Stomp his little cockroach ass to death, gas him, hit him with a hammer or whatever, just fix the problem. Then my naive little dog who loves to poke his head under kitchen cabinet won't eat the cockroach.

We have a cockroach here. Waiting a couple of days to see if he wants to stop being a cockroach isn't the answer. Let's clean up our kitchen. Label dareq as a scammer, or stomp his little cockroach ass right off the forum, it matters not, but let's not pretend that this scummy little piece of work is going to change his tune because we are waiting.

Protecting our own world is a shared responsibility. We have seen the cockroach, now if we do nothing, we are as guilty as he is.

No, assuming that they would read the thread where he is actually doing the selling though. Nothing but warnings and links to this thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68006.0

Rushing to mark people as scammers has resulted in premature judgements in the past.

What is this. I don't even.

Were your ears burning?  ;)

That thread gives no warning when you go to the user's profile.  Nor does that thread give any warning when he PM's users, who didn't first read the thread.

Wouldn't the simple solution be to have some kind of tag next to his profile name so it's quite apparent to everyone dealing with him that he may be untrustworthy ?

Nah...we'll just let this go on for a couple more days and hope no one gets burned.  Might as well just get rid of the scammer tag all together then.

Maybe a new tag should be added for those who have allegations of being a scammer, that links to the related thread

This has been mentioned before, it's a good idea. Or a link in their signature as terry suggested. Just to make people aware of current unresolved issues.

Isn't that what the scammer tag is FOR ?

Maybe I'm lost...

Tag him a scammer; then once the "current unresolved issues" are resolved...he can make amends and move towards getting it removed.

I'm so confused on what the tag is for now.

The best system would be a feedback type system like eBay has, maybe thats a suggestion for the new forum software.

Confusion likely arises from you mixing up my personal views with forum policy. If it were up to me he would have had a scammer tag several days ago, but it isn't. So really y'all are preaching to the choir here.

Splendid, a Global Mod who gets it. Thank you.

I've been trying to tell him since day one. He's a GoodBear.


EDIT: Just look at how concerned he looks while driving the car; taking into great consideration the lives in his hands. Would a bad bear do that?

https://i.imgur.com/CcQLn.gif

Paypal freezing your account doesn't make you a scammer.

Is this just another gang up by Matthew and his meth-friends?

No, just poor reading comprehension on your part.

Read dareq's first PayPal to bitcoins thread.

We don't have time for Clown Cowboy Crypto, the Lone Tool to sound out all the big words in 5 pages of thread. We'll just have to go with his snap judgement based on reading one name on the left and reacting.

And isn't it telling that here comes Clown Cowboy Crypto, the Lone Tool, online lawman from near New Mexico in Skier's Paradise Colorado to jump to the uneducated defense of yet another scammer. He just loves to be the puppet of the dishonest element here, sort of an EveryCrook's Boy Wonder. Whining and complaining and heaping abuse in defense of a guy's right to rip other folks off.

Go Cowboy, Go!!

umad bro?

I'm starting to think that he is a sockpuppet of BitScalper/CoinExchanger since he thinks being anonymous is vital and has a bad attitude to anyone who questions his scammy operations.

Ok so he had to reply to the dispute before march 16th and he obviously didn't ..

Paypal hasn't updated the dispute at all and its still tagged as "waiting seller's reply"

Sometimes they give the seller more time to reply if the seller hasn't had many disputes before.

If you want to speed the whole thing up, ring PayPal and explain the situation, and mention you haven't had any contact at all from the seller after you made the payment. That usually helps things along.

I have gathered some information about him, you might find it interesting/useful.
I don't like him one bit because of people like him my compatriots abroad are often falsely associated with scamming so I decided to share some info, not much, but it might be helpful. I will update this post when I find more info.
Sources: mostly google, bitcointalk.org posts, forum.bitcoin.pl posts, Tor forum posts where he tried selling Bitcoins and hardware for PP, BTC and wire transfer.

https://vjelr2xdaqsgslzr.tor2web.org/viewtopic.php?id=2015
http://vjelr2xdaqsgslzr.tor2web.org/viewtopic.php?id=2047
http://forum.bitcoin.pl/search.php?author_id=1939&sr=posts

Uncovered IP address: 91.221.214.191
Users on the tor forum found out his ISP is JMT Elektronika Marek Wensierski (via VOLTA-AS Volta Communications Sp.z.o.o. with ASN number 39816 located in Banino 80-297 on Mazowiecka 6 and Klonowa 25, it is close to Gdansk (Danzig) in northern part of Poland. It is a small 2^9 IP network.
Coverage of his ISP: http://gdzienet.pl/preview/jmt

On their website they say they deliver Internet services (over fiber and licensed/unlicensed radio freqs) to following locations:
Gdańsk Osowa
Banino
Barniewice
Czaple
Chwaszczyno
Rębiechowo
Pępowo
Małkowo
Klukowo

He listens to rap - RPK and Ten Typ Mes (lyrics in his signatures' posts on onion forums).
His rap song (?) on someone's wrzuta account (female friend I think): http://askas.wrzuta.pl/audio/0NQI91GIJkN/dareq_-_pierwsze_spojrzenie

Dareq who also goes by a nickname Bago is a Pole residing in Poland or UK (once contacted him and was told he ships from UK and he seems to be quite fluent in English and it's not so common in Poland)
He frequently used/uses his hotmail account: tentypmes@hotmail.com
and on Tor: bago@tormail.net
It is possible he did not secure himself when connecting to hotmail because he gets angry when someone reveals his identity on Tor.

It is possible his firstname is Dariusz (Darek is a diminutive), because it is not uncommon for Poles to replace 'k' with 'q' in their online identities so be careful when searching through the deep web and clear net for his nickname.

I think he is 18 or 19 years old but I need to check it.

Steam account
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197967203910
STEAM_0:0:3469091
banned on ESL.eu and 27 other networks, registered around June 2004, no VAC ban.
nicknames used:
SEXY BLACK VOCAL HOUSE
h1m / COME BACK PAZDZIERNIK
h1m / KTO GRA W COD4
h1m / NEED LUDZI DO GRY W LOLA
subaru
elegancik
player1
HE IS RISEN
ELEGANCIK ULICA MOIM DOMEM
SMIERC KONFIDENTOM

Gadu-Gadu (very popular IM in Poland) number 152152

This is his allegro account feedback:
http://allegro.pl/show_user.php?uid=61295&type=fb_all&feedback_type=fb_recvd_all

This might be his another account but I am verifying it now:
http://allegro.pl/show_user.php?uid=1574228

A quite a few items are related to scuba diving, skiing, and network stuff in bulk qt, if you want to see more use a google translator unless you understand Polish and use this site to see archived auctions:
http://archiwumallegro.pl/szukaj/

Next to the date of each item he bought/sold with his allegro account there is a number, copy that and paste at the above website to see what was the item.
With that you may learn a bit about him.

But remember he could be using a stolen identity all the time, VPN, someone else's PC, etc.

More around the end of the month, I am really busy recently.

I am impressed!

Doxxing at its finest.

Now that's investigating  :o

Ok, here are some news

Paypal refunded me entirely of $134.

They sent me an email 10 days ago, but I wanted to make sure that the money was on my bank account before announcing this :)


Thanks again for your support !

Good news.

And dareq? We have our eye out for you whichever identity you come back with, and we will hound you slimy scamming ass again if need be.