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Title: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 07, 2014, 01:14:25 PM Some punk scammed me out of 4 BTC last night.
And this morning my Jalapeño died in a power surge. Not cool. That was my favorite (albeit useless) miner. It's officially Bad Mood Monday. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: franky1 on July 07, 2014, 01:23:31 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: robbyd86 on July 07, 2014, 01:24:41 PM that sux, sorry to hear... about the btc and the jalepenos.
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 07, 2014, 01:28:32 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: franky1 on July 07, 2014, 01:34:23 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. no.. he is not hacking other peoples accounts.. thats what the chargeback kings always say to paypal "we have ben hacked" thats how they get their money back and keep the bitcoins if you been paypal scammed then keep the money and let paypal reimburse them from paypal profits. afterall paypal have insurance, paypal make profit and paypal should have better security.. its their fault not yours. unless your a scammer, never give back money to paypal.. let them lose out, not the honest people. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Some1else0 on July 07, 2014, 01:39:26 PM Ouch, that sucks. I see why people normally don't accept PayPal for Bitcoin.
It is worth a shot to see if you would get to keep the money while PayPal pays out of pocket for what was compromised. I've heard of it happening before. Also, it's possible that you only need a new PSU for your miner, which don't cost that much. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 07, 2014, 01:42:43 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. no.. he is not hacking other peoples accounts.. thats what the chargeback kings always say to paypal "we have ben hacked" thats how they get their money back and keep the bitcoins if you been paypal scammed then keep the money and let paypal reimburse them from paypal profits. afterall paypal have insurance, paypal make profit and paypal should have better security.. its their fault not yours. unless your a scammer, never give back money to paypal.. let them lose out, not the honest people. Thanks, this helps. It helps to know the original guy wasn't hacking other people's accounts. I have emails out to the three other people. Maybe they were legit. I want to do what is right, even if I take a hit doing it. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Perseus353 on July 07, 2014, 01:49:06 PM I feel bad you actually bought a Jalapeño
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: franky1 on July 07, 2014, 01:50:47 PM dont take a hit. thats what paypal want, it helps them stay in profit..
why let paypal profit and let you lose out.. its paypals fault not yours. the whole purpose of paypal is to protect peoples funds. they have failed to do so, and as such they have responsibility for THEM to reimburse customers. this is why people hate paypal, because paypal make people lose out while they make profit, dont play their game Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: leex1528 on July 07, 2014, 01:54:12 PM err, He wasn't hacking. You just didn't use your best judgement and ultimately handed some guy $2400 dollars with no proof of anything:(
Gotta think a lot on here or you will get scammed. I am really sorry to hear about it, sucks. Hopefully next time you will learn though! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: cozk on July 07, 2014, 02:04:18 PM your own fault imo.
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: franky1 on July 07, 2014, 02:09:16 PM his fault for getting scammed by a stranger, but not his fault for getting scammed 2 more times.
1. giving bitcoins to a stranger he cant slap with a wet fish or take to court 2. believing that he should reimburse said stranger via paypal, thus losing not only bitcoins but also paypal funds 3. allowing paypal to profit and not get them to reimburse any genuine people Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: ruthless09 on July 07, 2014, 02:12:34 PM Really bad people are out there on the dark web and making everybodies lives hard by doing all these things :(
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Este Nuno on July 07, 2014, 03:43:11 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. no.. he is not hacking other peoples accounts.. thats what the chargeback kings always say to paypal "we have ben hacked" thats how they get their money back and keep the bitcoins if you been paypal scammed then keep the money and let paypal reimburse them from paypal profits. afterall paypal have insurance, paypal make profit and paypal should have better security.. its their fault not yours. unless your a scammer, never give back money to paypal.. let them lose out, not the honest people. Thanks, this helps. It helps to know the original guy wasn't hacking other people's accounts. I have emails out to the three other people. Maybe they were legit. I want to do what is right, even if I take a hit doing it. Yeah, be careful about this. I wouldn't be so fast about paying these people. They might just be the scammer and you'd end up getting scammed twice ! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: odolvlobo on July 07, 2014, 03:45:28 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. There must be hundreds of threads on this site explaining why you don't accept Paypal for bitcoins. BTW, only return the money if Paypal forces you to. Don't make it too easy for the scammers. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: franky1 on July 07, 2014, 04:00:57 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. There must be hundreds of threads on this site explaining why you don't accept Paypal for bitcoins. BTW, only return the money if Paypal forces you to. Don't make it too easy for the scammers and paypal. +1 Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Beymond on July 07, 2014, 04:10:23 PM Some punk scammed me out of 4 BTC last night. And this morning my Jalapeño died in a power surge. Not cool. That was my favorite (albeit useless) miner. It's officially Bad Mood Monday. Dint you use escrow ? Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: keithers on July 07, 2014, 04:12:09 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. no.. he is not hacking other peoples accounts.. thats what the chargeback kings always say to paypal "we have ben hacked" thats how they get their money back and keep the bitcoins if you been paypal scammed then keep the money and let paypal reimburse them from paypal profits. afterall paypal have insurance, paypal make profit and paypal should have better security.. its their fault not yours. unless your a scammer, never give back money to paypal.. let them lose out, not the honest people. That sounds like a good idea in theory, but Paypal just takes the money out of your account first and then asks questions later... If you have a 0 paypal balance, then your balance becomes negative and you can no longer use the account until you repay the overdraw amount... Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Beliathon on July 07, 2014, 04:14:19 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online ...So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. Barring irrefutable evidence of his claims, the OP is the real scammer in this thread, as far as I'm concerned. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LouReed on July 07, 2014, 04:16:05 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. Sorry for your loss!! Happened to me last week! Wasn't as bad as your ass kicking though! He wasn't hacking, you were caught up in a "man in the middle" scam. He offers to sell someone Bitcoin and gives them your PayPal id, then contacts you and says he either sent, or is sending you money for Bitcoin and gives you an address to send the coins to. When the guy that paid you doesn't get his Bitcoin he does a chargeback and you're left holding your dick! Worst part about my situation is, the guy who sent me the money on PayPal and did the chargeback was a total dumb fucking douche nozzle piece of shit! He was so fucking stupid that he thought that I was the one who scammed him even after I explained the whole thing to him with proof, and offered to send him $100 in Bitcoin even after PayPal issued the refund! Some people are just born stupid! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LouReed on July 07, 2014, 04:17:07 PM Some punk scammed me out of 4 BTC last night. And this morning my Jalapeño died in a power surge. Not cool. That was my favorite (albeit useless) miner. It's officially Bad Mood Monday. Dint you use escrow ? Escrow doesn't protect you from a payPal chargeback. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Gleb Gamow on July 07, 2014, 04:24:21 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. no.. he is not hacking other peoples accounts.. thats what the chargeback kings always say to paypal "we have ben hacked" thats how they get their money back and keep the bitcoins if you been paypal scammed then keep the money and let paypal reimburse them from paypal profits. afterall paypal have insurance, paypal make profit and paypal should have better security.. its their fault not yours. unless your a scammer, never give back money to paypal.. let them lose out, not the honest people. That sounds like a good idea in theory, but Paypal just takes the money out of your account first and then asks questions later... If you have a 0 paypal balance, then your balance becomes negative and you can no longer use the account until you repay the overdraw amount... Rumor has it that creating a new PayPal account is the hardest thing in the world to do ::), ergo protect your PayPal account at ALL cost. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 07, 2014, 04:41:19 PM Some punk scammed me out of 4 BTC last night. And this morning my Jalapeño died in a power surge. Not cool. That was my favorite (albeit useless) miner. It's officially Bad Mood Monday. Not entirely bad. At least your Jally had the common sense to give up the ghost! Damn thing was just a coffee cup warmer! As far as being scammed through Paypal, by now everyone on this forum should know better than to use Paypal in connection with ANY crypto transaction of ANY kind. Shame on you! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 07, 2014, 04:41:44 PM Hey thanks for all the advice and support.
I won't send the money back to the people. I'll let Paypal deal with it. You guys are right. This is how it went down. I have a listing on eBay for a physical coin. Some guy asked if I would sell him bitcoin digitally. I said ok, but only if he paypal'd me the money as "friends or family". I thought that that was irreversible, but I guess I was wrong. So he paid me for one btc, then he said that he had other friends who wanted in on it too since I sold the btc pretty much at spot price. I said sure, but so as not to confuse, I'd send him the btc and he would send it to his friends, after they paypal'd the money to me as friends or family. This morning I woke up and one of the people had reversed their payment claiming their account was hacked. So far the other payments stand good, so technically I've only lost one btc at this stage. Suspecting it was just one guy who hacked other people's paypal accounts, I thought the other charges will be reversed soon. But you have all assured me that that's probably not the case. That's where I stand now. I did send emails to the other people asking them if they got their BTC. And as far as the Jalapeño goes - I'm not gonna spend $10 on a new PSU, since it will never make back $10 at this stage hahaha! I guess I'm a total idiot. I'm only gonna take cash for btc in future. Or just stick to exchanges. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 07, 2014, 04:44:34 PM Some punk scammed me out of 4 BTC last night. And this morning my Jalapeño died in a power surge. Not cool. That was my favorite (albeit useless) miner. It's officially Bad Mood Monday. Not entirely bad. At least your Jally had the common sense to give up the ghost! Damn thing was just a coffee cup warmer! As far as being scammed through Paypal, by now everyone on this forum should know better than to use Paypal in connection with ANY crypto transaction of ANY kind. Shame on you! haha yeah I'm an idiot! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 07, 2014, 04:46:34 PM Some punk scammed me out of 4 BTC last night. And this morning my Jalapeño died in a power surge. Not cool. That was my favorite (albeit useless) miner. It's officially Bad Mood Monday. Not entirely bad. At least your Jally had the common sense to give up the ghost! Damn thing was just a coffee cup warmer! As far as being scammed through Paypal, by now everyone on this forum should know better than to use Paypal in connection with ANY crypto transaction of ANY kind. Shame on you! haha yeah I'm an idiot! No, you are NOT an idiot! You just had to learn the hard way and I've done that myself and lost much more than you but in other areas. Armed with this new knowledge, get back to work earn and keep your ass covered! Best wishes! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 07, 2014, 04:50:42 PM I guess it's part of the fun of bitcoin. I'm sure in the early days of gold you just took it for granted that you'd get robbed and stuff. Part of the nature of irreversible currency.
I guess the important thing is to learn from the error, shake it off, then move on. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 07, 2014, 04:51:58 PM I guess it's part of the fun of bitcoin. I'm sure in the early days of gold you just took it for granted that you'd get robbed and stuff. Part of the nature of irreversible currency. I guess the important thing is to learn from the error, shake it off, then move on. An errror or mistake represents a learning opporutinity. Learn, live long and prosper! ;) Thus spake The Dutchman! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Ron~Popeil on July 07, 2014, 05:01:53 PM I guess it's part of the fun of bitcoin. I'm sure in the early days of gold you just took it for granted that you'd get robbed and stuff. Part of the nature of irreversible currency. I guess the important thing is to learn from the error, shake it off, then move on. An errror or mistake represents a learning opporutinity. Learn, live long and prosper! ;) Thus spake The Dutchman! That is exactly why I like these kind of threads. When I found my way here I gained a ton of valuable knowledge just by reading about other people's experiences. I feel almost guilty saying it but I have used the hard lessons others have learned to avoid the costly mistakes people make when new to bit coin. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 07, 2014, 05:05:16 PM I guess it's part of the fun of bitcoin. I'm sure in the early days of gold you just took it for granted that you'd get robbed and stuff. Part of the nature of irreversible currency. I guess the important thing is to learn from the error, shake it off, then move on. An errror or mistake represents a learning opporutinity. Learn, live long and prosper! ;) Thus spake The Dutchman! That is exactly why I like these kind of threads. When I found my way here I gained a ton of valuable knowledge just by reading about other people's experiences. I feel almost guilty saying it but I have used the hard lessons others have learned to avoid the costly mistakes people make when new to bit coin. Rock on dude - better to learn on a thread than to learn the hard way! Now I'm going to experiment and see how many times I can make my old Jally skip across a lake... Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 07, 2014, 05:06:54 PM I guess it's part of the fun of bitcoin. I'm sure in the early days of gold you just took it for granted that you'd get robbed and stuff. Part of the nature of irreversible currency. I guess the important thing is to learn from the error, shake it off, then move on. An errror or mistake represents a learning opporutinity. Learn, live long and prosper! ;) Thus spake The Dutchman! That is exactly why I like these kind of threads. When I found my way here I gained a ton of valuable knowledge just by reading about other people's experiences. I feel almost guilty saying it but I have used the hard lessons others have learned to avoid the costly mistakes people make when new to bit coin. Rock on dude - better to learn on a thread than to learn the hard way! Now I'm going to experiment and see how many times I can make my old Jally skip across a lake... Well, we shot skeet with ours............................ ;) Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 07, 2014, 05:13:09 PM I guess it's part of the fun of bitcoin. I'm sure in the early days of gold you just took it for granted that you'd get robbed and stuff. Part of the nature of irreversible currency. I guess the important thing is to learn from the error, shake it off, then move on. An errror or mistake represents a learning opporutinity. Learn, live long and prosper! ;) Thus spake The Dutchman! That is exactly why I like these kind of threads. When I found my way here I gained a ton of valuable knowledge just by reading about other people's experiences. I feel almost guilty saying it but I have used the hard lessons others have learned to avoid the costly mistakes people make when new to bit coin. OH, my freind, profiting from the experience of others is EXACTLY what you should do! Why try to reinvent the wheel? It's like if some guy tells you, "Hey, if you do this shit, you're gonna get killed!" You say, "Naw, I can do that shit!" KA-BOOM! You can't get into Heaven 'cause you killed yourself, so where are you then? You can't get into Hell because Satan figures you're too stupid to even stoke the fires and are therefore a safety hazard, so avoid all that shit by learning and profiting from both the successes and mistakes of others! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 07, 2014, 05:25:45 PM I guess it's part of the fun of bitcoin. I'm sure in the early days of gold you just took it for granted that you'd get robbed and stuff. Part of the nature of irreversible currency. I guess the important thing is to learn from the error, shake it off, then move on. An errror or mistake represents a learning opporutinity. Learn, live long and prosper! ;) Thus spake The Dutchman! That is exactly why I like these kind of threads. When I found my way here I gained a ton of valuable knowledge just by reading about other people's experiences. I feel almost guilty saying it but I have used the hard lessons others have learned to avoid the costly mistakes people make when new to bit coin. Rock on dude - better to learn on a thread than to learn the hard way! Now I'm going to experiment and see how many times I can make my old Jally skip across a lake... Well, we shot skeet with ours............................ ;) Nice. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: allthingsluxury on July 07, 2014, 05:27:26 PM Some punk scammed me out of 4 BTC last night. And this morning my Jalapeño died in a power surge. Not cool. That was my favorite (albeit useless) miner. It's officially Bad Mood Monday. Wow, very sorry to hear, hopefully it gets better! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: haploid23 on July 07, 2014, 05:41:00 PM if you been paypal scammed then keep the money and let paypal reimburse them from paypal profits. afterall paypal have insurance, paypal make profit and paypal should have better security.. its their fault not yours. unless your a scammer, never give back money to paypal.. let them lose out, not the honest people. I only wish it was this easy with banks. Last year, someone sent me money by direct bank transfer, ACH payment with Chase bank. Once it cleared into my account, I released the bitcoins, then a few days later the transaction was reversed. I was under the assumption that ACH payments were cash equivalents and cannot be reversed once cleared. Shortly after, chase closed my bank account, flagged me as being involved in FRAUD so now they won't ever let me open an account with them. All in all, I lost a lot of bitcoins, money, got account closed, and labeled as fraud on their records. I have no idea what the scumbag reported to chase, but this is the worst possible outcome. Very expensive lesson for me. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 07, 2014, 05:52:57 PM if you been paypal scammed then keep the money and let paypal reimburse them from paypal profits. afterall paypal have insurance, paypal make profit and paypal should have better security.. its their fault not yours. unless your a scammer, never give back money to paypal.. let them lose out, not the honest people. I only wish it was this easy with banks. Last year, someone sent me money by direct bank transfer, ACH payment with Chase bank. Once it cleared into my account, I released the bitcoins, then a few days later the transaction was reversed. I was under the assumption that ACH payments were cash equivalents and cannot be reversed once cleared. Shortly after, chase closed my bank account, flagged me as being involved in FRAUD so now they won't ever let me open an account with them. All in all, I lost a lot of bitcoins, money, got account closed, and labeled as fraud on their records. I have no idea what the scumbag reported to chase, but this is the worst possible outcome. Very expensive lesson for me. I'm not sure that Chase is known to be Bitcoin freindly so maybe others have had similar experience with them to tell us about? Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 07, 2014, 06:00:38 PM if you been paypal scammed then keep the money and let paypal reimburse them from paypal profits. afterall paypal have insurance, paypal make profit and paypal should have better security.. its their fault not yours. unless your a scammer, never give back money to paypal.. let them lose out, not the honest people. I only wish it was this easy with banks. Last year, someone sent me money by direct bank transfer, ACH payment with Chase bank. Once it cleared into my account, I released the bitcoins, then a few days later the transaction was reversed. I was under the assumption that ACH payments were cash equivalents and cannot be reversed once cleared. Shortly after, chase closed my bank account, flagged me as being involved in FRAUD so now they won't ever let me open an account with them. All in all, I lost a lot of bitcoins, money, got account closed, and labeled as fraud on their records. I have no idea what the scumbag reported to chase, but this is the worst possible outcome. Very expensive lesson for me. Wow. That's intense!! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: franky1 on July 07, 2014, 06:35:51 PM Some guy asked if I would sell him bitcoin digitally. people had reversed their payment claiming their account was hacked. standard scam practice been going on for years, so dont feel like your the only one, just cash out your paypal, and stick away from it. hope you have a great future and hope this is the last mistake you make.. never trade soo much with someone you dont know. simple rule if you cant grab them hold by the neck after they scam you, grab their name and address before you even hand a penny to them EG don't trade on websites that use who-is guards on their website registrations dont trade via chatrooms with strangers protect your funds, especially amounts more then a hotmeal and a couple beers that you'd normally waste at a weekend.. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Meuh6879 on July 07, 2014, 07:08:46 PM Also, it's possible that you only need a new PSU for your miner, which don't cost that much. clear. 10A 12v power supply (heavy standard on HP/DELL accessory refurbished on eBay) = 15 USD. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 07, 2014, 08:05:33 PM Well, the day just got better.
I have an address, telephone number and even a website from the initial guy who asked me for bitcoin. It was his "friend" who reversed the paypal charge, so I'm not going to post the info here (yet). First I want to know if he was the scammer or his "friend". Then I might pay him a little visit. He's in Goldsithney, Cornwall, UK. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: ajareselde on July 07, 2014, 09:05:30 PM Well, the day just got better. I have an address, telephone number and even a website from the initial guy who asked me for bitcoin. It was his "friend" who reversed the paypal charge, so I'm not going to post the info here (yet). First I want to know if he was the scammer or his "friend". Then I might pay him a little visit. He's in Goldsithney, Cornwall, UK. I wouldnt believe much what scammer is saying. Heard and had too much of those experiences, and my advice is to be brutal. Give all his info, contact everyone of his relatives, let them know what kind of a man he is, and if you still gont get anything back, say you will contact authorities , and cross fingers. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 08, 2014, 10:04:44 AM Ok, well I'm going to say this in the most charitable way.
Simon Walker's (from Wiltshire) Paypal account gets "hacked" so do not sell him bitcoins. If you do, good chance his Paypal account is being hacked again. After giving him a phone call and leaving him a message, he contacted me by email to tell me that Paypal agreed that his account was hacked. Quote Hi there, My account was hacked into and Paypal have acknowledged this. Kind regards So keep him flagged. I mean his Paypal account. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: BitsBitsBits on July 08, 2014, 10:09:18 AM That sucks man, I lost 3.75 btc once getting scammed by someone on here. Doesn't feel great.
Hope you make it back someday and forget about this incident. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Bitcoin Magazine on July 08, 2014, 10:11:43 AM That sucks man, I lost 3.75 btc once getting scammed by someone on here. Doesn't feel great. Hope you make it back someday and forget about this incident. i got your back for about tree fiddy (3.50). except in Bitcoins. count it as a blessing, but i can't refund the whole amount as a show of good faith.. (for the stealer) :P i wish i was kidding. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: ljudotina on July 08, 2014, 10:50:41 AM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. You are kidding me?! PayPal?! Do NOT user PayPal for ANYTHING that can not be tracked by shipping companies (digital goods, services etc included). You will get your ass raped hard way. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 08, 2014, 02:56:34 PM http://www.paypalsucks.com/
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 08, 2014, 03:02:47 PM Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 08, 2014, 03:09:59 PM that it does! And now for something completely different. When you are down and feeling beaten up, go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZ-pLUb9L8 Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Bitcoinpro on July 08, 2014, 03:31:13 PM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. Wat did you buy ? If he has stolen your money out of their paypal accounts that's not your problem you must have lost goods too, definitely paypal should be looking at it from an insurance point of view not many times could an account be hijacked before it would be closed down and most people debit straight from their credit card so seems like a series of cascading breaches here not entirely likely otherwise the user of the account would be liable for some negligence, Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Eric2013 on July 08, 2014, 03:33:53 PM come on , i lost 400btc in gambling last week, do not worry, its not ur bad day mate!
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Skele on July 08, 2014, 03:58:15 PM Really bad people are out there on the dark web and making everybodies lives hard by doing all these things :( That hurts men :-\This kind of people had existed since humans lived in caves so we have to deal with it, take as many precautions as you can. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: StevenS on July 08, 2014, 05:40:08 PM Call me paranoid, but now I do all my Bitcoin exchanges with cash, in person (using localbitcoins.com).
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: cryptopaths on July 08, 2014, 05:46:58 PM Paypal can never be trusted you always have to be one step ahead of them even though you're not scamming. Withdraw all your funds after a trade and don't be threatened by there bullshit.
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 08, 2014, 07:17:21 PM I just got off the phone with Paypal. After I explained everything to them they very nicely said that they provide no protection for people who sell bitcoin or bitcoin related things.
Even though I insisted I could prove with the transaction ID. Nope, a very polite "Sorry about your luck". Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 09, 2014, 12:39:25 AM I just got off the phone with Paypal. After I explained everything to them they very nicely said that they provide no protection for people who sell bitcoin or bitcoin related things. Even though I insisted I could prove with the transaction ID. Nope, a very polite "Sorry about your luck". I'm sorry but what the fuck did you expect? Have you never read the TOS of Paypal? Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 09, 2014, 09:57:05 AM Ok I know I've beaten this into the ground, but I need to post this because I just need to vent, and seriously posting about this stuff here on bitcointalk really seriously helps. So I submitted a TON of evidence including transaction IDs, and the entire chain of emails to PayPal. They responded with this. And it gets better. I went to close my account and they won't let me close the account because there is one gift certificate that was given to someone years ago that they never redeemed. I'm totally screwed. DO. NOT. USE. PAYPAL!!!!!! E.V.E.R!!!!!!! And I really hope that Coinbase is never purchased by PayPal because I will walk away from Coinbase as well if there's a merge. Quote Dear XXXXXXXXXXXXX, PayPal Seller Protection covers you in the event of claims, chargebacks, or reversals that are a result of unauthorized purchases or items your buyer didn’t receive. With PayPal Seller Protection, you are covered for the full amount of all eligible transactions. If a transaction is eligible for Seller Protection, it will be marked as eligible or partially eligible on the Transaction Details page. If it is marked as partially eligible, you are only protected for items a buyer didn’t receive. Here are some additional requirements you need to meet for Seller Protection: You must ship the item to the address on the Transaction Details page. Even if the buyer sends you a request via email or an eBay message requesting shipment to an alternate address, only ship the item to the address provided in the Transaction Details. The item must be a physical, tangible item that can be shipped. Physical items do not include digital goods (such as bitcoins, online gaming, or MP3s) or any services provided online or in person. Provide proof of delivery. For transactions of $750.00 or more, you need to provide signed delivery confirmation. We require online tracking to confirm delivery. Respond to our requests for documentation and other information in a timely manner. These requests will be sent to the primary email address on your PayPal account. To learn more about PayPal’s Seller Protection Policy, click Legal Agreements at the bottom of any PayPal page, and then click PayPal User Agreement. Sincerely, Yogeswari PayPal, an eBay Company k, I feel better now. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Ilsk on July 09, 2014, 10:20:46 AM That sucks
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: eid on July 09, 2014, 10:39:01 AM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. no.. he is not hacking other peoples accounts.. thats what the chargeback kings always say to paypal "we have ben hacked" thats how they get their money back and keep the bitcoins if you been paypal scammed then keep the money and let paypal reimburse them from paypal profits. afterall paypal have insurance, paypal make profit and paypal should have better security.. its their fault not yours. unless your a scammer, never give back money to paypal.. let them lose out, not the honest people. That sounds like a good idea in theory, but Paypal just takes the money out of your account first and then asks questions later... If you have a 0 paypal balance, then your balance becomes negative and you can no longer use the account until you repay the overdraw amount... Ah that's good news. Are there any downsides though? I would disassociate my bank account or card from my paypal account, cancel any direct debits at the bank, and see how far they're willing to take it. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: DannyElfman on July 10, 2014, 01:44:15 AM rule of the street, if you wont simply hand a stranger on the street $2400... dont do it online I thought I had it down. It didn't occur to me that he was hacking other people's Paypal accounts to pay me. So I'm doing what's right and returning their money to them. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: GTO911 on July 10, 2014, 04:10:13 AM Sorry to hear, may those btc be spent on some good deeds
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: dank on July 10, 2014, 04:35:43 AM Look at what you have rather than what you have lost.
Dank loves you. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: eid on July 10, 2014, 07:09:58 AM Look at what you have rather than what you have lost. Dank loves you. Did you say that to the guy you scammed too? Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Vod on July 10, 2014, 07:33:34 AM Look at what you have rather than what you have lost. Dank loves you. Did you say that to the guy you scammed too? He says it to him each day he has money but doesn't make the payments he agreed on. "You don't need my money - take my love." ::) Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Lauda on July 10, 2014, 07:45:34 AM Look at what you have rather than what you have lost. He has love from Dank? Dank loves you. Sorry to hear that OP, everyone has a bad day once in a while. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 10, 2014, 10:21:13 AM Look at what you have rather than what you have lost. Dank loves you. HAHAHA! Thanks Dank! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 10, 2014, 10:50:48 AM Look at what you have rather than what you have lost. He has love from Dank? Dank loves you. Sorry to hear that OP, everyone has a bad day once in a while. don't say that love from a scammer is also love :) Love stinks. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 10, 2014, 10:58:05 AM Look at what you have rather than what you have lost. He has love from Dank? Dank loves you. Sorry to hear that OP, everyone has a bad day once in a while. don't say that love from a scammer is also love :) Love stinks. how do you smell something that's inside your brain? love is usually a lie but that's still no reason to throw it away Sometimes you're better off if you do because often it hurts so good that you can't. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: michietn94 on July 12, 2014, 06:59:17 AM i have an holiday to celebrate my friend to move city , and in a middle we had accident , truck crashed into our car T_T
but lucky nothing happened with us , only the car broke Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: josephliton on July 12, 2014, 09:15:36 AM You are not alone. :(
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 12, 2014, 12:02:05 PM Look at what you have rather than what you have lost. Dank loves you. Now that's a scary thought! ;) Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: minerpumpkin on July 14, 2014, 11:28:58 PM Ouch, that sucks. I see why people normally don't accept PayPal for Bitcoin. It is worth a shot to see if you would get to keep the money while PayPal pays out of pocket for what was compromised. I've heard of it happening before. Also, it's possible that you only need a new PSU for your miner, which don't cost that much. Never do this. Really, never never never never never use PayPal to sell BTC. BTC transactions are irreversible, PayPal/CC payments are not. And PayPal tends to side with the buyer... Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: fryarminer on July 15, 2014, 11:10:28 AM that it does! And now for something completely different. When you are down and feeling beaten up, go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZ-pLUb9L8 ok... confession to make - I haven't had audio on my Hackintosh since I upgraded and was too lazy to fix it. But I had some video designing to do yesterday and fixed it - and then came back to watch this clip. THIS IS AWESOME!! HAHA! THANKS DUDE!!! Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: investspot on July 24, 2014, 04:12:28 AM That's really a bad day for you. Is that a gambling or hyip program whick scammed you?
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #yjV4jaQfws4P5iet Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: LostDutchman on July 24, 2014, 04:15:45 AM Look at what you have rather than what you have lost. Dank loves you. Now that is scary. Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: Snorek on July 24, 2014, 04:19:32 AM I don't have a really bad days. All my days just feels wrong... Like I am not in the right place and time.
Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: AndrewNoble on July 24, 2014, 04:42:18 PM Title: Re: Bad Day Post by: ahri on July 24, 2014, 04:54:13 PM Look at what you have rather than what you have lost. Dank loves you. It actually does matter, because now thats time lost. And who cares your words wont help his financial situation. |
