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As people we are all attempting to fulfill a natural desire to have power.  Some are born with more of a natural ability than others such as intelligence.  A few are intelligent enough to be intrinsically powerful through their intelligence.  The same goes for many other skills.  

However, the majority of people are not intrinsically powerful due to an outstanding skill.  These people seek the consolation prize: money.  Money grubbers can be seen hoarding their only way of moving up the social ladder.  Now they can have a little more power over material than their fellow man.  This increase in power is very addicting to the money grubber.  His ears perk up at the thought of a chance to make more money.  His life is lived to fulfill the advancement of his power and he has found an outlet to do so through hoarding.  

The Century of Self
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_YLy6yZeaw&list=PL_2ilKwDwStVAlY0-_SfLk8I2-raTBHJY

I think every human being should watch this documentary at least once in their lives.

It sheds so much light about the "how, why, what" of the psychology/economics side of the modern world.

I'm not 100% into captialism as an economic system.  But I'm not sure that you tied this into capitalism at all.  If the folks who are "intrinsically powerful through their intelligence" use their intelligence to gain money, are they less intelligent than you thought?  Is this a paradox in your system?

Horseshit.

Typical "liberal" disinformation.

Move along.

Nothing to see here.

Dutch, I often wonder how much responsibility they bare.

I was relentlessly indoctrinated with that crap in public schools.  It took me almost a decade to overcome it.

Yeah, I have seen it as well, even in adults.

I know a lady my own age who considers anyone who critises Obama to be a "racist", in that, she subconsciously believes that because he is half-black that he can do no wrong and therefore anyone who opposes him does so because of his ethnic makeup.

Amazing but true.

It is time for change.

When you talk about Capitalism, you are not talking about freedom.
I will tell you why. First of all, it is based on money.
When you depend on money, you have limitations.
Those limitations, can lead to death (and that is really sad), because many people do not have money, and even those who have money, they also know for limitations. You are always limited to do something big in this world, cause whatever you want to do, you can do just so much, how much you money have.
Freedom? I do not whink so.
Capitalism is just one more cage - but I like to call it: Masked faudalism.

There is no freedom the way you look at it, but there is always something (or rather many somethings) that you depend upon. As they say (actually Engels), Freiheit ist die Einsicht in die Notwendigkeit ("freedom is the recognition of necessity"). ;)

This whole "money evil" meme is so retarded I can't believe it became popular.

I mean, how ignorant and uneducated does a person need to be in order to promote this?  Are public schools completely bereft of economics education today?  They don't even teach have the old Keynesian "guns n' butter" classes anymore?

Seriously. It's puzzling.

Pretty much.

I get increasingly pissed off when I hear about teachers in my country ( UK ) going on strike over pensions, particularly because of my own experience through education I think some teachers deserve to have their pay docked with the kind of bullshit they pull, the least governments can do is reward teachers who actually teach instead of people who are just their to collect their cheques every month and retire.

Granted, education in particular tends to get me angry because of my personal experiences, but that's life really, we tend to react more to things that we can relate to.

If you are interested in learning the difference between schooling and education, visit:

http://schoolsucksproject.com/new-start-here/

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My school years are long gone, so why should I care? :D

Though I agree that schools today are not very efficient (mildly speaking) at education.

You should care because the children in your community will decide your fate.  

What gets stomped into their heads at public indoctrination facilities today determines what kind of society you will live in 15 years from now.

That hilarious guy from above (above here refers to the thread, not what you might have thought) says that I shouldn't care about anything, that is whether they go to school or not! :D

Education is just brain washing these day.

Millions of uneducated teenagers on the street without support from their parents or anyone else won't be solved by "hiring more police officers"
I'll try to explain this non sense in your language as you seem to be looking at the $ side of things without a moral perspective.
"More police officers" + millions of board teenagers on the street fending for themselves (gangs) will without a doubt place a massive surge on arrests and tax payer funded prisons.
That means instead of paying a single teacher to control and educate 30 students 6-7 hours a day, by your logic we are now instead accommodating, feeding, protecting and PAYING for an individual who will most likely grow up to have a better understanding of the inside of a jail cell than the real world.
Less educated, productive individuals out there slows down economic growth. The inevitable growth in crime rate will also effect the financial security of local businesses (mexico is a good example of this).

@OP What makes the 'intelligent' individuals immune from the 'money' that the average people claim as their 'consolation prize'?

I think that guy was kidding, don't take his words seriously!

I sincerely hope so.

This is happening in many cities in the US.

Judging from your response, I don't think you live in a big city in the US.

Teenage gang is getting out of control in many cities.

teachers should not be able to form unions nor should they be able to strike. What kind of lesion does this teach their children when they refuse to do the job they were hired to do?

I'm not sure if its the same elsewhere, but where I come from we have moved to a system called outcomes education. Its basically a system where the state decides what is necessary and tries to mould kids to meet those perceived requirements. As a result the kids are not taught to taught to think for them selves and its now been shown that the kids leaving school and applying for university entrance fall far short of the minimum standards. Fields that are particularly being affected are maths and science.

Not sure if others are familiar with this site The Trivium method: (pertains to mind) – the elementary three.

General Grammar, Aristotelian Logic, and Classical Rhetoric comprise the first three rules-based subjects of the 7 Liberal Arts and Sciences. As these disciplines are learned and practiced together, they form the overarching, symbiotic system for establishing clarity and consistency of personal thought called the Trivium.


http://www.triviumeducation.com/ (http://www.triviumeducation.com/)
 
I think this method of education should be focused on when preparing kids minds, it enables them to think logically, thus better enabling them to take responsibility. The problem is state education is more focused on indoctrination so you wont find it supported there.

I absolutely hate money and everything it stands for because it brings out the worst in people. I mean think about it, the simple fact that society values people by how much money they make is pathetic and shallow. It is such a basic every-day thing that we don't even notice - like the basic question of "what do you do?" , after which the person immediately makes a judgment about your worth as an individual.

But the problem is that as a species, we are not really  ready for a society without money. We have to naturally progress from capitalism to something better. Right now I think most of the world as at that stage where we see the many faults of capitalism and hopefully will start to move away from it to a more socialist ideology. Or at the very least, start truly restraining the financial sector that has caused the rich to become richer and the poor to become poorer.

I also feel that Bitcoin is a great "transition" tool from our current money-centered society to a different mode of life, because it removes a lot of that control that a small group of people exert on the entire financial system.

1.stay away from bitcoin.

2.it's free market...

Dreamer.

You are right. But you obviously don't see the whole picture behind the details. It may seem counter-intuitive, but you can never earn real wealth unless you share some part of this wealth with other people, that is making them wealthier too. Look at Bill Gates, yes, he is a multi-billionaire, but how many people have found work and made their lives better thanks to him.

Bill Gate is rich cause of the patent monopoly, it's not the best example...

Socialists have come far in their success: they've convinced much of the population that the woes of the state are to be blamed on capitalism, and the boon of capitalism is the cause of the state.  I wonder how long this charade will go; will we see another socialist meltdown right here in Murrica?  I'm not sticking around to find out.

But this example is still valid, since he wouldn't get where he is without giving back. The greed itself makes people share some of their profits.