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Title: Radeon 5970
Post by: platorin on March 12, 2012, 12:19:33 AM
I would like to ask you Guys, is this a good video card to mine on? I know the wiki thread. I know it gets very nice mh/s but perhaps there is someone here who mines on 5970 and could share his experience with me? :)


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: max in montreal on March 12, 2012, 12:20:50 AM
its the best card out there for mining.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on March 12, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
No that card is ancient, where did you find it.  You should sell it to me.  I will buy it for $350 if it is in good condition.  Another $200 more and you can get a 7970 which is 2000 better than a 5970.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: Electricbees on March 12, 2012, 12:29:23 AM
No that card is ancient, where did you find it.  You should sell it to me.  I will buy it for $350 if it is in good condition.  Another $200 more and you can get a 7970 which is 2000 better than a 5970.
You're killing me, DaT...


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: platorin on March 12, 2012, 12:30:07 AM
No that card is ancient, where did you find it.  You should sell it to me.  I will buy it for $350 if it is in good condition.  Another $200 more and you can get a 7970 which is 2000 better than a 5970.
How much would be brand new worth?


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: legolouman on March 12, 2012, 03:55:06 AM
No that card is ancient, where did you find it.  You should sell it to me.  I will buy it for $350 if it is in good condition.  Another $200 more and you can get a 7970 which is 2000 better than a 5970.
How much would be brand new worth?

You cant get a brand new 5970...


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: kliffen on March 12, 2012, 04:39:18 AM
No that card is ancient, where did you find it.  You should sell it to me.  I will buy it for $350 if it is in good condition.  Another $200 more and you can get a 7970 which is 2000 better than a 5970.
How much would be brand new worth?

You cant get a brand new 5970...

Yes, you can.

You can even get a brand new NES if you want to


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on March 12, 2012, 12:36:51 PM
No that card is ancient, where did you find it.  You should sell it to me.  I will buy it for $350 if it is in good condition.  Another $200 more and you can get a 7970 which is 2000 better than a 5970.
How much would be brand new worth?

You cant get a brand new 5970...

Yes, you can.

You can even get a brand new NES if you want to

"Brand new" doesn't really have any value unless it is coming from an authorized retailer.  No OEM is going to take a sales receipt from kliffen at documentation for warranty.

I wouldn't pay extra for "new in the box" 5970.  Anyone can take a used card, drop in in a mint condition box and call it "new in the box".

Show me a retailer which has new 5970s at any decent price (<$400).


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: kliffen on March 12, 2012, 02:26:43 PM
No that card is ancient, where did you find it.  You should sell it to me.  I will buy it for $350 if it is in good condition.  Another $200 more and you can get a 7970 which is 2000 better than a 5970.
How much would be brand new worth?

You cant get a brand new 5970...

Yes, you can.

You can even get a brand new NES if you want to

"Brand new" doesn't really have any value unless it is coming from an authorized retailer.  No OEM is going to take a sales receipt from kliffen at documentation for warranty.

I wouldn't pay extra for "new in the box" 5970.  Anyone can take a used card, drop in in a mint condition box and call it "new in the box".

Show me a retailer which has new 5970s at any decent price (<$400).

Dem productseals man, dem seals


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: jjiimm_64 on March 12, 2012, 03:51:11 PM
No that card is ancient, where did you find it.  You should sell it to me.  I will buy it for $350 if it is in good condition.  Another $200 more and you can get a 7970 which is 2000 better than a 5970.

I will give you 360 ;)


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: bulanula on March 12, 2012, 05:56:03 PM
Ignore kliffen. He is trolling. Last week on the BTC-E chat he was saying he borrowed 400 000 USD to buy 10 rig boxes ::)

There is no way you get a new 5970 now from anywhere simply because they are EOL for a long time now and 7990 should soon be out etc.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: kliffen on March 12, 2012, 09:42:43 PM
Ignore kliffen. He is trolling. Last week on the BTC-E chat he was saying he borrowed 400 000 USD to buy 10 rig boxes ::)

There is no way you get a new 5970 now from anywhere simply because they are EOL for a long time now and 7990 should soon be out etc.

Talked to the bank on Friday, getting 200 000 NOK initially if we can prove it profitable, so we're doing the last bit on our business-plan now. I never said i had the money, i said i was talking to the bank about it, and doing the math on it. Please get your facts right

And you can absolutely get a new 5970 from "somewhere". If you can get 20 year+ old consoles with factory seals on them, why wouldn't you be able to get a 2 year old graphics card with a factory seal on it? It's all about determination and the price you have to pay.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: jjiimm_64 on March 12, 2012, 10:07:01 PM


And you can absolutely get a new 5970 from "somewhere". If you can get 20 year+ old consoles with factory seals on them, why wouldn't you be able to get a 2 year old graphics card with a factory seal on it? It's all about determination and the price you have to pay.


You cannot get 5970's new from anywhere especially not in quantity......... 

if you can tell me where to get them new, I will pay 400 per!



Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: max in montreal on March 12, 2012, 10:23:19 PM
less than 1 month ago I saw them new...on a website somewhere.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: jjiimm_64 on March 12, 2012, 10:25:56 PM
less than 1 month ago I saw them new...on a website somewhere.

how long is that in bitcointime

http://bitcoinclock.com/


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: kliffen on March 12, 2012, 10:29:05 PM


And you can absolutely get a new 5970 from "somewhere". If you can get 20 year+ old consoles with factory seals on them, why wouldn't you be able to get a 2 year old graphics card with a factory seal on it? It's all about determination and the price you have to pay.


You cannot get 5970's new from anywhere especially not in quantity.........  

if you can tell me where to get them new, I will pay 400 per!



For $400 i think you'd end up with nothing. I saw one at some obscure webshop about 2-3 weeks ago. I'm pretty sure the price was $1200 or so though.

Here's one in Sweden for 4000 SEK http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=614245 It says "1 in stock soon", to all you non-scandinavians


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: Mousepotato on March 12, 2012, 10:53:15 PM
Here's one in Sweden for 4000 SEK http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=614245 It says "1 in stock soon", to all you non-scandinavians

How much is that in real money? :P


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: kliffen on March 12, 2012, 10:55:26 PM
Here's one in Sweden for 4000 SEK http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=614245 It says "1 in stock soon", to all you non-scandinavians

How much is that in real money? :P

$586 :)


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: Electricbees on March 12, 2012, 11:11:14 PM
Here's one in Sweden for 4000 SEK http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=614245 It says "1 in stock soon", to all you non-scandinavians

How much is that in real money? :P

$586 :)
Oh man, one in stock? I'll buy five!


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on March 12, 2012, 11:13:14 PM
Here's one in Sweden for 4000 SEK http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=614245 It says "1 in stock soon", to all you non-scandinavians

How much is that in real money? :P

$586 :)
Oh man, one in stock? I'll buy five!

"In stock soon" that is Swedish for "Out of stock and we aren't getting no mo because ATI/AMD stopped making them 2 years ago." :)


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: kliffen on March 12, 2012, 11:41:55 PM
Here's one in Sweden for 4000 SEK http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=614245 It says "1 in stock soon", to all you non-scandinavians

How much is that in real money? :P

$586 :)
Oh man, one in stock? I'll buy five!

"In stock soon" that is Swedish for "Out of stock and we aren't getting no mo because ATI/AMD stopped making them 2 years ago." :)

It actually says "1 st på väg in" which means "1 on the way here"


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: neo_rage on March 12, 2012, 11:58:46 PM
Very hot card, and first GPU always happingly baking second one.
I think to replace this aeroturbine cooling with Ice Hammer IH-900B or same.

Additional vote to IH-900B is that it has many radiators for memory chips and voltage controllers, which baking too with reference cooling.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: jjiimm_64 on March 13, 2012, 12:07:03 AM
Very hot card, and first GPU always happingly baking second one.
I think to replace this aeroturbine cooling with Ice Hammer IH-900B or same.

Additional vote to IH-900B is that it has many radiators for memory chips and voltage controllers, which baking too with reference cooling.
this card does NOT run hot!!
It was over 70F here today.  it is 87F in this room
Code:
cgminer version 2.2.1 - Started: [February 27, 2012, 8:52 pm]    Rig: miner16
(5s):2929.5  (avg): 2930.11 Mh/s  |    Q:847431   A:803760   R:7058   HW:0   E:?%   U:40.09/m
TQ:?   ST:308   SS:?   DW:19751   NB:2090   LW:30244   GF:645   RF:147
Connected to http://gpumax.com:8332 with LP as user ?
Value:
GPU 0: 67.5C 3464RPM 56% | 370.5/369.5Mh/s | 99% | 800Mhz 300Mhz 1.05V A:100910 R:914 HW:0 U:5.03/m I: 8
GPU 1: 69.5C 3464RPM 56% | 364.9/365.9Mh/s | 98% | 800Mhz 300Mhz 1.05V A:100089 R:873 HW:0 U:4.99/m I: 8
GPU 2: 71.5C 3467RPM 56% | 364.8/365.9Mh/s | 97% | 800Mhz 300Mhz 1.05V A:100814 R:873 HW:0 U:5.03/m I: 8
GPU 3: 72.0C 3467RPM 56% | 366.2/365.9Mh/s | 98% | 800Mhz 300Mhz 1.05V A:100780 R:884 HW:0 U:5.03/m I: 8
GPU 4: 71.5C 3171RPM 50% | 366.1/365.9Mh/s | 97% | 800Mhz 300Mhz 1.05V A:100570 R:883 HW:0 U:5.02/m I: 8
GPU 5: 71.0C 3173RPM 50% | 366.0/365.8Mh/s | 99% | 800Mhz 300Mhz 1.05V A:100273 R:846 HW:0 U:5.00/m I: 8
GPU 6: 72.0C 3928RPM 66% | 365.6/365.6Mh/s | 97% | 800Mhz 300Mhz 1.05V A:100043 R:909 HW:0 U:4.99/m I: 8
GPU 7: 69.0C 3932RPM 66% | 365.4/365.6Mh/s | 98% | 800Mhz 300Mhz 1.05V A:100281 R:876 HW:0 U:5.00/m I: 8


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: neo_rage on March 13, 2012, 12:09:11 AM
I got 86* C single CPU, and over 95* multi-GPU.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on March 13, 2012, 12:10:30 AM
Stop lying jjiimm_64.  I strong recommend everyone get ebay those hard to use 5970s for good money while you still have the chance.

They are hot, noisy, and 2000 lower lower than 7970.   I mean it starts with a "5".  Can anyone say "ANCIENT".  Ebay it to some suckers for $350 to $400 before the word gets out.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: kliffen on March 13, 2012, 12:17:03 AM
Stop lying jjiimm_64.  I strong recommend everyone get ebay those hard to use 5970s for good money while you still have the chance.

They are hot, noisy, and 2000 lower lower than 7970.   I mean it starts with a "5".  Can anyone say "ANCIENT".  Ebay it to some suckers for $350 to $400 before the word gets out.

http://fortheloss.org/images/face-wat.png


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: legolouman on March 13, 2012, 12:37:46 AM
Stop lying jjiimm_64.  I strong recommend everyone get ebay those hard to use 5970s for good money while you still have the chance.

They are hot, noisy, and 2000 lower lower than 7970.   I mean it starts with a "5".  Can anyone say "ANCIENT".  Ebay it to some suckers for $350 to $400 before the word gets out.

http://fortheloss.org/images/face-wat.png

They aren't even worth the time it takes to sell them for that much. I'll send you 1 BTC for each of them, right now, no questions asked. You don't even have to convert it from USD -> BTC!


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: jjiimm_64 on March 13, 2012, 01:52:19 AM

your probably right.  i just replaced a fan in one...  there was like 20 screws,  cant they design something with plastic clipons or something?


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: legolouman on March 13, 2012, 01:58:05 AM

your probably right.  i just replaced a fan in one...  there was like 20 screws,  cant they design something with plastic clipons or something?

Rumor has it, that the 7970 has rounded edges, so you won't have to worry so much with cutting yourself on them. Something to keep in mind.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: runeks on March 13, 2012, 02:10:12 AM


And you can absolutely get a new 5970 from "somewhere". If you can get 20 year+ old consoles with factory seals on them, why wouldn't you be able to get a 2 year old graphics card with a factory seal on it? It's all about determination and the price you have to pay.


You cannot get 5970's new from anywhere especially not in quantity......... 

if you can tell me where to get them new, I will pay 400 per!


Why do you think you can buy a new 5970 for $400? That's the used card price (or refurbished). You need to double that if you want a new one.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: trouserless on March 13, 2012, 02:23:49 AM
good to see that I'm not the only one who hits refresh on this link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103195&Tpk=radeon%205970) first thing in the morning because I don't trust the "auto notify" feature on the site and am too lazy to actually write a wget command that greps for "out of stock" and sends me a page...


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: legolouman on March 13, 2012, 02:32:36 AM
good to see that I'm not the only one who hits refresh on this link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103195&Tpk=radeon%205970) first thing in the morning because I don't trust the "auto notify" feature on the site and am too lazy to actually write a wget command that greps for "out of stock" and sends me a page...

On a serious note: In case you guys didn't know, those cards are listed as 'OEM' on accident. From what I've heard, they are remanufactured cards, most of which were bad news. All of that was a collaborative collection of information from Newegg support and other miners.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: platorin on March 14, 2012, 02:48:34 AM
I am pretty sure you could get few new 5970 GPUs. I could probably help with that.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: jjiimm_64 on March 14, 2012, 03:13:43 AM
I am pretty sure you could get few new 5970 GPUs. I could probably help with that.

bring it on,  I would buy new ones for a decent price


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: malevolent on March 14, 2012, 10:50:41 PM
I am pretty sure you could get few new 5970 GPUs. I could probably help with that.

Can you elaborate?
Skąd? :)


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: jjshabadoo on March 14, 2012, 11:21:47 PM
I'd say my experience with the diamond 5970's has been pretty good overall. Only had one not work well and the seller on ebay actually took it as a return.

Everyone I bought from newegg is fine except one which i returned and promptly received a "good" one from newegg.

Now I did open mine up and replace all the stock TIM and thermal pads because the job they did was sloppy. They are NOT big time overclockers, but I get 800/300 with limited issues. I have an XFX black edition 5970 that does fine with 825/300 and have just never tried for higher and it runs cooler at stock.

All of this at stock voltage 1.05

So in my opinion, at 329.99 to 399.99 which is what I paid for mine on newegg(about 14 of them) and a 5 year warranty, they were a GREAT deal.

Maybe i just got lucky.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: QuantumFoam on March 16, 2012, 08:19:25 PM
good to see that I'm not the only one who hits refresh on this link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103195&Tpk=radeon%205970) first thing in the morning because I don't trust the "auto notify" feature on the site and am too lazy to actually write a wget command that greps for "out of stock" and sends me a page...
Don't bother, you will get banned (http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/3/800267/ShowThread.aspx#800267) for doing just that. These have been out of stock for a month or so now and when they get in stock sell out instantly, and as you suspected auto notify isn't. Better off getting a secondhand xfx card that still has the warranty transferable.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: jjiimm_64 on March 16, 2012, 08:32:31 PM
I got 86* C single CPU, and over 95* multi-GPU.

dude, that wont last..  you need to downclock those cards ..  I do not let a card run over 78.


Title: Re: Radeon 5970
Post by: neo_rage on March 16, 2012, 08:40:20 PM
yes, i think so.