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Title: Please delete this thread
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 01:38:11 AM
Nevermind. Let the thread die please.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: haploid23 on July 13, 2014, 02:06:46 AM
My experience has been the opposite. Banks are becoming more and more stringent.

What bank does your father work at? Also, I'd like to point out that he does not represent all banks. He is merely one person, from one department, from one bank.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: bitjoint on July 13, 2014, 02:14:58 AM
What bank does your father work at?

C'mon... no need to give details.

I think there are mixed feelings in the banking industry. Some banks are ready to embrace bitcoin, and others are reluctant. Thing is the banks were waiting for some regulations to be in place, and this has recently started, so we are going to see the first BIG moves during late 2014 and 2015...

2013 was the "technologists" boom
2014 is being the "merchants" boom
2015 could be the banking boom

Mass adoption will follow...  ;D


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: haploid23 on July 13, 2014, 02:26:48 AM
What bank does your father work at?
C'mon... no need to give details.

Of course it matters. It's useful info, but gives nothing away about his identity or his father's identity.

Based on what I know, there's almost no chance this will be from a bank like Chase. So if he comes out to say that his father is a Chase executive, this will surprise the hell out of me. I would expect that the father works for a credit union, who are generally known be much more tolerant to bitcoin. If we know which bank it is, at least we know that bank is one step towards the right direction, and to possibly deal with that bank for future bitcoin business.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 02:28:45 AM
My experience has been the opposite. Banks are becoming more and more stringent.

What bank does your father work at? Also, I'd like to point out that he does not represent all banks. He is merely one person, from one department, from one bank.
My experience has been the opposite. Banks are becoming more and more stringent.

What bank does your father work at? Also, I'd like to point out that he does not represent all banks. He is merely one person, from one department, from one bank.
My experience has been the opposite. Banks are becoming more and more stringent.

What bank does your father work at? Also, I'd like to point out that he does not represent all banks. He is merely one person, from one department, from one bank.
Are you kidding? NO. I am not going to tell you what bank he is the CEO and PRESIDENT of (he doesn't work in a fucking department). And he is not just merely ONE person, his partners of over 35+ years were also a part of the email discussion in reference to "picking the brains" of people like Tony. I would almost guarantee he is one of the most successful community bankers in the state, if not the most). His success record is insane. Over the past decade or so, he has acquired and flipped about a half dozen banks. He specializes in buying shitty community banks that are sinking ships and he comes in as the CEO and does his thing and sells the bank to the big guys (Wells Fargo, BofA, etc.)


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 02:35:58 AM
What bank does your father work at?

C'mon... no need to give details.

I think there are mixed feelings in the banking industry. Some banks are ready to embrace bitcoin, and others are reluctant. Thing is the banks were waiting for some regulations to be in place, and this has recently started, so we are going to see the first BIG moves during late 2014 and 2015...

2013 was the "technologists" boom
2014 is being the "merchants" boom
2015 could be the banking boom

Mass adoption will follow...  ;D
Tony probably knows which bank I am referring to as I imagine they have already contacted him to set up a meeting. That's a HUGE hint right there in terms of what region of the country the bank is. If you really care that much, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I have given you plenty of context clues at this point.

PS: MY FATHER LOATHES CREDIT UNIONS, they are a much larger threat to big community banks like the one he is currently the CEO of, certainly moreso than bitcoin (at this point in the game).


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: seriouscoin on July 13, 2014, 02:38:57 AM
My father is the CEO of the biggest Internet services company and i approve this thread 100% .



Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 02:42:09 AM
My father is the CEO of the biggest Internet services company and i approve this thread 100% .


I'm guessing that's a joke? I'm not trying to come off as a show-off, but I realize the way I worded my posts it may seem that way. I just can't believe someone asked for the name of the bank, considering it would mean the end of my father's career for sharing the email which he shared with me.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: jjc326 on July 13, 2014, 02:43:26 AM
What bank does your father work at?

C'mon... no need to give details.

I think there are mixed feelings in the banking industry. Some banks are ready to embrace bitcoin, and others are reluctant. Thing is the banks were waiting for some regulations to be in place, and this has recently started, so we are going to see the first BIG moves during late 2014 and 2015...

2013 was the "technologists" boom
2014 is being the "merchants" boom
2015 could be the banking boom

Mass adoption will follow...  ;D
Tony probably knows which bank I am referring to as I imagine they have already contacted him to set up a meeting. That's a HUGE hint right there in terms of what region of the country the bank is. If you really care that much, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

PS: MY FATHER LOATHES CREDIT UNIONS, they are a much larger threat to big community banks like the one he is currently the CEO of, certainly moreso than bitcoin (at this point in the game).

What's the problem with credit unions?  As far as I can tell heck they give good rates and seem more lenient than big banks where everything has to be by the book. It's a little like the old days like when you knew your banker, like in Its a Wonderful Life.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 02:48:30 AM
What bank does your father work at?
The problem with credit unions is that they have unfair advantages compared to a traditional bank, which obviously is not good for the banking industry.

C'mon... no need to give details.

I think there are mixed feelings in the banking industry. Some banks are ready to embrace bitcoin, and others are reluctant. Thing is the banks were waiting for some regulations to be in place, and this has recently started, so we are going to see the first BIG moves during late 2014 and 2015...

2013 was the "technologists" boom
2014 is being the "merchants" boom
2015 could be the banking boom

Mass adoption will follow...  ;D
Tony probably knows which bank I am referring to as I imagine they have already contacted him to set up a meeting. That's a HUGE hint right there in terms of what region of the country the bank is. If you really care that much, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

PS: MY FATHER LOATHES CREDIT UNIONS, they are a much larger threat to big community banks like the one he is currently the CEO of, certainly moreso than bitcoin (at this point in the game).

What's the problem with credit unions?  As far as I can tell heck they give good rates and seem more lenient than big banks where everything has to be by the book. It's a little like the old days like when you knew your banker, like in Its a Wonderful Life.
The problem with credit unions is that they have unfair advantages compared to a traditional bank, which obviously is not good for the banking industry. For instance, they don't have to pay income taxes and all sorts of other insane crazy perks that they should not be allowed to have.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 02:54:54 AM
For those who are questioning whether or not I'm full of shit. I ask you: Why on earth would I post this information unless it were true? It's not like this post is going to convince everyone and their brother to buy BTC, which I guess is the assumption you are making for why I would make something like this up? I really doubt this post will have any effect in terms of driving up the price of bitcoin... Just because I don't want to fuck over my father by not revealing his bank doesn't mean I'm full of shit


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: CEG5952 on July 13, 2014, 02:59:54 AM
I believe it. My dad is one of the richest 100 people in the world, and he told me all his rich cronies are loading up on bitcoin as we speak. You heard it here, gentlemen. Buy buy buy. ;)


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 03:02:06 AM
OK, whatever. Don't believe it. I really don't give a shit. You will see. In fact, DONT BUY, I havent gotten my paycheck yet and I would hate for the price to go up right now, especially since it seems to be sliding down. I don't know what I thought posting this information would accomplish, but clearly no one thinks I am telling the truth, so please let this die.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 03:11:33 AM
I'm not going to be pressured into revealing the identity of my father's bank by a bunch of internet tools just because they are too cynical to believe anything that appears on this forum.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: Harley997 on July 13, 2014, 03:12:14 AM
What bank does your father work at?

C'mon... no need to give details.

I think there are mixed feelings in the banking industry. Some banks are ready to embrace bitcoin, and others are reluctant. Thing is the banks were waiting for some regulations to be in place, and this has recently started, so we are going to see the first BIG moves during late 2014 and 2015...

2013 was the "technologists" boom
2014 is being the "merchants" boom
2015 could be the banking boom

Mass adoption will follow...  ;D
Tony probably knows which bank I am referring to as I imagine they have already contacted him to set up a meeting. That's a HUGE hint right there in terms of what region of the country the bank is. If you really care that much, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

PS: MY FATHER LOATHES CREDIT UNIONS, they are a much larger threat to big community banks like the one he is currently the CEO of, certainly moreso than bitcoin (at this point in the game).

What's the problem with credit unions?  As far as I can tell heck they give good rates and seem more lenient than big banks where everything has to be by the book. It's a little like the old days like when you knew your banker, like in Its a Wonderful Life.
Credit Unions usually pay higher interest rates for deposits and charge less for loans. This looks great on paper, but in reality it means that they are probably under pricing (not charging enough for) loans and over pricing (paying too much for) deposits. This essentially means that their margin for error is too small. I would say that this is partly caused by the fact that Credit Unions are non-profit enterprises so they are not as concerned about profits as banks are.

In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 03:18:05 AM
What bank does your father work at?

C'mon... no need to give details.

I think there are mixed feelings in the banking industry. Some banks are ready to embrace bitcoin, and others are reluctant. Thing is the banks were waiting for some regulations to be in place, and this has recently started, so we are going to see the first BIG moves during late 2014 and 2015...

2013 was the "technologists" boom
2014 is being the "merchants" boom
2015 could be the banking boom

Mass adoption will follow...  ;D
Tony probably knows which bank I am referring to as I imagine they have already contacted him to set up a meeting. That's a HUGE hint right there in terms of what region of the country the bank is. If you really care that much, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

PS: MY FATHER LOATHES CREDIT UNIONS, they are a much larger threat to big community banks like the one he is currently the CEO of, certainly moreso than bitcoin (at this point in the game).

What's the problem with credit unions?  As far as I can tell heck they give good rates and seem more lenient than big banks where everything has to be by the book. It's a little like the old days like when you knew your banker, like in Its a Wonderful Life.
Credit Unions usually pay higher interest rates for deposits and charge less for loans. This looks great on paper, but in reality it means that they are probably under pricing (not charging enough for) loans and over pricing (paying too much for) deposits. This essentially means that their margin for error is too small. I would say that this is partly caused by the fact that Credit Unions are non-profit enterprises so they are not as concerned about profits as banks are.

In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.
Thank God there is one person on this forum with half a brain. You are exactly right, except my father's bank isn't as big as Chase, so they haven't received as much attention by bitcoiners for being bitcoin "hostile", which I'm not sure they ever were. I was very surprised that these guys who my Dad works with, who make millions every year, were unfamiliar with Bitcoin as recently as 6 months ago. But you have to remember that these guys are old school, they are probably the last people who would ever come across Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: Chef Ramsay on July 13, 2014, 03:22:14 AM
I believe it. People are perking up and realizing this shit ain't dying like they thought it would. They realize that there's something revolutionary going on here and it took them this long to figure it out, so better late than never. It's so hot that industry leaders are trying to get the scoop on it ASAP. Can't say whether Chase wants in but it makes sense that now is the time for those that don't want to go down w/ the ship to get with the program.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: zhinkk on July 13, 2014, 03:31:23 AM
For those who are questioning whether or not I'm full of shit. I ask you: Why on earth would I post this information unless it were true? It's not like this post is going to convince everyone and their brother to buy BTC, which I guess is the assumption you are making for why I would make something like this up? I really doubt this post will have any effect in terms of driving up the price of bitcoin... Just because I don't want to fuck over my father by not revealing his bank doesn't mean I'm full of shit

I'm not doubting you personally. I just don't think you can generalize all banks by just your father's.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 03:33:01 AM
For those who are questioning whether or not I'm full of shit. I ask you: Why on earth would I post this information unless it were true? It's not like this post is going to convince everyone and their brother to buy BTC, which I guess is the assumption you are making for why I would make something like this up? I really doubt this post will have any effect in terms of driving up the price of bitcoin... Just because I don't want to fuck over my father by not revealing his bank doesn't mean I'm full of shit

I'm not doubting you personally. I just don't think you can generalize all banks by just your father's.
That is fair


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: Harley997 on July 13, 2014, 04:19:39 AM
What bank does your father work at?

C'mon... no need to give details.

I think there are mixed feelings in the banking industry. Some banks are ready to embrace bitcoin, and others are reluctant. Thing is the banks were waiting for some regulations to be in place, and this has recently started, so we are going to see the first BIG moves during late 2014 and 2015...

2013 was the "technologists" boom
2014 is being the "merchants" boom
2015 could be the banking boom

Mass adoption will follow...  ;D
Tony probably knows which bank I am referring to as I imagine they have already contacted him to set up a meeting. That's a HUGE hint right there in terms of what region of the country the bank is. If you really care that much, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

PS: MY FATHER LOATHES CREDIT UNIONS, they are a much larger threat to big community banks like the one he is currently the CEO of, certainly moreso than bitcoin (at this point in the game).

What's the problem with credit unions?  As far as I can tell heck they give good rates and seem more lenient than big banks where everything has to be by the book. It's a little like the old days like when you knew your banker, like in Its a Wonderful Life.
Credit Unions usually pay higher interest rates for deposits and charge less for loans. This looks great on paper, but in reality it means that they are probably under pricing (not charging enough for) loans and over pricing (paying too much for) deposits. This essentially means that their margin for error is too small. I would say that this is partly caused by the fact that Credit Unions are non-profit enterprises so they are not as concerned about profits as banks are.

In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.
Thank God there is one person on this forum with half a brain. You are exactly right, except my father's bank isn't as big as Chase, so they haven't received as much attention by bitcoiners for being bitcoin "hostile", which I'm not sure they ever were. I was very surprised that these guys who my Dad works with, who make millions every year, were unfamiliar with Bitcoin as recently as 6 months ago. But you have to remember that these guys are old school, they are probably the last people who would ever come across Bitcoin.
I would argue that most large banks are watching bitcoin at least semi-closely and will become more friendly towards bitcoin over time as they see the success of merchants accepting bitcoin and the potential uses of bitcoin. I would not be entirely surprised to see a major bank offering payment processing via bitcoin sometime in the future.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: Bitobsessed on July 13, 2014, 04:33:54 AM
Wonder what CapitalOne is doing building a digital team.

http://jobs.capitalone.com/san-francisco/digital/digital-operations-manager-jobs

"If you like the idea of delivering new digital products that have never been created by a bank or credit card company, we want to meet you."



Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 05:04:29 AM
Wonder what CapitalOne is doing building a digital team.

http://jobs.capitalone.com/san-francisco/digital/digital-operations-manager-jobs

"If you like the idea of delivering new digital products that have never been created by a bank or credit card company, we want to meet you."


;-)


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: pirsquared on July 13, 2014, 05:11:35 AM
Banks, et al., are taking notice of what is happening in the bitcoin world. USMS just auctioned off some property for which a savvy fellow ponied up millions. Bitcoin or something like it is the future.

Judging by the amount of VC that has entered the bitcoin space; smart money says that cryptocurrency is the future. I follow smart money because I don't have enough of either to do otherwise (smarts or money).

This is the internet, so take the OP's post with a grain of salt insofar as that is concerned. People create accounts all the time just to tell a truth that they don't want to tell under their own name.

Bitcoin is real. The protocol is solid. The currency is valuable. Don't fool yourselves into thinking that large corporations are not taking notice.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 05:17:35 AM
Banks, et al., are taking notice of what is happening in the bitcoin world. USMS just auctioned off some property for which a savvy fellow ponied up millions. Bitcoin or something like it is the future.

Judging by the amount of VC that has entered the bitcoin space; smart money says that cryptocurrency is the future. I follow smart money because I don't have enough of either to do otherwise (smarts or money).

This is the internet, so take the OP's post with a grain of salt insofar as that is concerned. People create accounts all the time just to tell a truth that they don't want to tell under their own name.

Bitcoin is real. The protocol is solid. The currency is valuable. Don't fool yourselves into thinking that large corporations are not taking notice.
I realize at this point that most people think I'm making this up but as far as creating a pseudonym, I'm just a long time lurker who has never really had anything of interest to say. I figured that it might be of interest here but everyone thinks its bullshit. LOL.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: CEG5952 on July 13, 2014, 05:18:27 AM
Banks, et al., are taking notice of what is happening in the bitcoin world. USMS just auctioned off some property for which a savvy fellow ponied up millions. Bitcoin or something like it is the future.

Totally. Lots of people saw that auction as bearish news, but it was super bullish in my eyes. US government stamp of approval. Clearly, smart money is getting positioned, and the financial world is taking notice.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: pirsquared on July 13, 2014, 05:19:32 AM
Banks, et al., are taking notice of what is happening in the bitcoin world. USMS just auctioned off some property for which a savvy fellow ponied up millions. Bitcoin or something like it is the future.

Judging by the amount of VC that has entered the bitcoin space; smart money says that cryptocurrency is the future. I follow smart money because I don't have enough of either to do otherwise (smarts or money).

This is the internet, so take the OP's post with a grain of salt insofar as that is concerned. People create accounts all the time just to tell a truth that they don't want to tell under their own name.

Bitcoin is real. The protocol is solid. The currency is valuable. Don't fool yourselves into thinking that large corporations are not taking notice.
I realize at this point that most people think I'm making this up but as far as creating a pseudonym, I'm just a long time lurker who has never really had anything of interest to say. I figured that it might be of interest here but everyone thinks its bullshit. LOL.

Everyone always thinks things are bullshit until they get the smell of dung on their collar. I'm with you.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: haploid23 on July 13, 2014, 05:26:35 AM
Are you kidding? NO. I am not going to tell you what bank he is the CEO and PRESIDENT of (he doesn't work in a fucking department). And he is not just merely ONE person, his partners of over 35+ years were also a part of the email discussion in reference to "picking the brains" of people like Tony. I would almost guarantee he is one of the most successful community bankers in the state, if not the most). His success record is insane. Over the past decade or so, he has acquired and flipped about a half dozen banks. He specializes in buying shitty community banks that are sinking ships and he comes in as the CEO and does his thing and sells the bank to the big guys (Wells Fargo, BofA, etc.)

Man that's quite the resume your father has. Ok ok, I believe you. But my father too, owns a very huge and rapidly expanding industry. He might even buy out all the banks, including your father, then proceed to take over the world. But of course I can't reveal my sources either, because that would mean the end of my father.



In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.
Thank God there is one person on this forum with half a brain...

I guess the rest of us don't have a brain, just because we didn't nod along with OP's storytelling.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: CEG5952 on July 13, 2014, 05:51:20 AM
In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.
Thank God there is one person on this forum with half a brain...

I guess the rest of us don't have a brain, just because we didn't nod along with OP's storytelling.

Right? I mean, it's plausible and everything, but there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon. And there's plenty of bagholders around trying to do anything they can to pump the price. :)


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 05:59:09 AM
In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.
Thank God there is one person on this forum with half a brain...

I guess the rest of us don't have a brain, just because we didn't nod along with OP's storytelling.

Right? I mean, it's plausible and everything, but there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon. And there's plenty of bagholders around trying to do anything they can to pump the price. :)
I understand. I was being harsh when I wrote the "half a brain" bit, I will confess. But why would some random thread from bitcointalk.org where a guy with 15 posts wrote what I wrote possibly pump up the price? Are you serious?


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: mercistheman on July 13, 2014, 06:01:47 AM
So the question is why would anyone in the banking industry think favorably for BTC and their bank's future?


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 06:12:57 AM
So the question is why would anyone in the banking industry think favorably for BTC and their bank's future?
Because you have to adapt as a business. Find some way of implementing it into the ability to have bitcoin and USD in your checking or savings account, also BTC loans.They also ofcourse are impressed by the low transaction fees. Banks aren't going anywhere, at least not anytime soon. I really can't believe the number of lunatics on this place who say shit like "Yeah Im 100% invested in Bitcoin because there aren't going to be any banks in a decade or two". Its fucking simple economics. Diversify, this includes currencies. We can have multiple currencies. It's healthier and safer than having just one. Bankers found a way to screw you with paper money, they'll find a way to do it with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: Harley997 on July 13, 2014, 06:14:50 AM
In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.
Thank God there is one person on this forum with half a brain...

I guess the rest of us don't have a brain, just because we didn't nod along with OP's storytelling.

Right? I mean, it's plausible and everything, but there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon. And there's plenty of bagholders around trying to do anything they can to pump the price. :)
If it is plausible and you have nothing to refute the statement then why would you call BS?


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: beetcoin on July 13, 2014, 06:53:46 AM
man this thread feels like a 4chan troll post.. seriously, did u guys see him defend big banks, because the smaller credit unions get perks? that's got to be a fucking troll.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: haploid23 on July 13, 2014, 08:24:55 AM
PS: MY FATHER LOATHES CREDIT UNIONS, they are a much larger threat to big community banks like the one he is currently the CEO of, certainly moreso than bitcoin (at this point in the game).

The problem with credit unions is that they have unfair advantages compared to a traditional bank, which obviously is not good for the banking industry. For instance, they don't have to pay income taxes and all sorts of other insane crazy perks that they should not be allowed to have.

So your father LOATHES credit unions. They are non-profit banks, get bunch of perks, and this is bad for all the greedy banks, such as the one your father owns. The same banking industry that indirectly steals from the citizens, is this right? Your father hates them because it chips away from his potential profits.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: haploid23 on July 13, 2014, 08:25:33 AM
For those who are questioning whether or not I'm full of shit. I ask you: Why on earth would I post this information unless it were true?
But why would some random thread from bitcointalk.org where a guy with 15 posts wrote what I wrote possibly pump up the price? Are you serious?

Are you new to this? Why don't you ask your evil twin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=682019.0) nomoonn since you have the same level of credibility. It's like you never seen bulls or bears trying to say anything to pump/crash the price.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: haploid23 on July 13, 2014, 08:26:04 AM
Bankers found a way to screw you with paper money, they'll find a way to do it with Bitcoin.

You seem a bit confused as to who's side you're on. Go ahead and count how many times you've contradicted yourself in the first two pages. You're exactly right though, banks will find a way to fuck up something good (bitcoin), so go tell your daddy to call off the integration.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: haploid23 on July 13, 2014, 08:26:37 AM
OK, whatever. Don't believe it. I really don't give a shit. You will see. In fact, DONT BUY, I havent gotten my paycheck yet and I would hate for the price to go up right now, especially since it seems to be sliding down.

You just gave away your hand in this post. It's not about banks, there's no fictitious father, this thread is yet another lame attempt to PUMP the price. You're irritated because the people that read this thread thus far, didn't instantly go on a buying spree. Why are you so focused on short term price movement, when it's suppose to be about banks?


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: DannyHamilton on July 13, 2014, 11:49:44 AM
My father is a banking executive
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I was in a meeting with my attorney and my father yesterday
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the attorney asked my father what his opinion of Bitcoin and other virtual currencies were,
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his bank has made sure to make a point of talking to people like Tony from Bitpay and a few other Bitcoin entrepreneurs in order to "pick their brains"
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banks in the U.S. right now are bullish about Bitcoin and plan on implementing it
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the President and CEO of a pretty big community bank.

Regarding these 6 statements, there is only one thing to say:

Pix or it didn't happen


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: devphp on July 13, 2014, 12:14:16 PM
Banks aren't going anywhere, at least not anytime soon.

I would expand this to:

Banks aren't going anywhere, if only for the reason that many people can't secure their cryptos on their own and will lose them to hackers, that's why at least some banks will make business keeping cryptos for people and charging them storage, insurance and of course transfer fees, when they need to withdraw small amounts to their personal wallet for spending. People need peace of mind and live their life without worrying about losing coins. Banks give them peace of mind, same as they always did. At least until a bank run happens, haha.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: Light on July 13, 2014, 12:30:23 PM
You just gave away your hand in this post. It's not about banks, there's no fictitious father, this thread is yet another lame attempt to PUMP the price. You're irritated because the people that read this thread thus far, didn't instantly go on a buying spree. Why are you so focused on short term price movement, when it's suppose to be about banks?

This is probably going to be a little off-topic, but I've never understood why people think that any sort of positive correlation with Bitcoin means their trying to pump. If you were a normal person, would you honestly base your trading on the posts of some random guy on the internet who has posted a >20 times? I wouldn't.

Back on topic, if it gets big enough you can bet your bottom dollar that the banks will jump on quickly so as not to lose customers. Given that the non-savvy user is going to need a place to safely store coins and call upon if they need help they'll be happy to pay what they are now for this 'privilege'. To the rest of us, it may mean a day where we are completely independent of banks - although it would be interesting if banks offered insurance on coins they have stored.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: ljudotina on July 13, 2014, 12:36:03 PM
It's not question "will banks get into BTC train" it's only question, when will legal framework be set for them to be able to get into it. It's same for any large US based company like PayPal, Ebay etc. All they really need is legal background and they will just in as fast as they can.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: Harley997 on July 13, 2014, 06:43:21 PM
PS: MY FATHER LOATHES CREDIT UNIONS, they are a much larger threat to big community banks like the one he is currently the CEO of, certainly moreso than bitcoin (at this point in the game).

The problem with credit unions is that they have unfair advantages compared to a traditional bank, which obviously is not good for the banking industry. For instance, they don't have to pay income taxes and all sorts of other insane crazy perks that they should not be allowed to have.

So your father LOATHES credit unions. They are non-profit banks, get bunch of perks, and this is bad for all the greedy banks, such as the one your father owns. The same banking industry that indirectly steals from the citizens, is this right? Your father hates them because it chips away from his potential profits.
Credit Unions usually take on extra risk that is generally not apparent until it is too late.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: CEG5952 on July 13, 2014, 06:50:26 PM
In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.
Thank God there is one person on this forum with half a brain...

I guess the rest of us don't have a brain, just because we didn't nod along with OP's storytelling.

Right? I mean, it's plausible and everything, but there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon. And there's plenty of bagholders around trying to do anything they can to pump the price. :)
If it is plausible and you have nothing to refute the statement then why would you call BS?

There's a difference between being "plausible" and being "likely", and obviously that's further yet from being "true". And what I said was, "there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon." I'm saying don't be gullible and keep an open mind. Many people would use unsubstantiated rumors to confirm their own biases. It happens every day. :)


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 07:03:23 PM
At this point I would just prefer for this thread to die. I am not egotistical enough to believe that I could single-handedly pump the price of BTC (which I'm not sure why people think I would want that? After all, my Dad is a BANKER). I realize now I shouldn't have even made this thread to begin with, no one trusts anyone on the internet, and there's good reason for it, I suppose.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: RocketSingh on July 13, 2014, 07:11:35 PM

2013 was the "technologists" boom
2014 is being the "merchants" boom
2015 could be the banking boom




Cant agree more to this...


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: Harley997 on July 13, 2014, 07:31:03 PM
In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.
Thank God there is one person on this forum with half a brain...

I guess the rest of us don't have a brain, just because we didn't nod along with OP's storytelling.

Right? I mean, it's plausible and everything, but there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon. And there's plenty of bagholders around trying to do anything they can to pump the price. :)
If it is plausible and you have nothing to refute the statement then why would you call BS?

There's a difference between being "plausible" and being "likely", and obviously that's further yet from being "true". And what I said was, "there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon." I'm saying don't be gullible and keep an open mind. Many people would use unsubstantiated rumors to confirm their own biases. It happens every day. :)
But the OP really does not have anything/much to gain by people believing him, and you have nothing to gain by proving/saying he is full of BS.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: h0lybyte on July 13, 2014, 07:32:04 PM
A lot of local banks are already bitcoin friendly! I just think people should stop using major banks and switch over to community banks :D


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 07:34:17 PM
A lot of local banks are already bitcoin friendly! I just think people should stop using major banks and switch over to community banks :D
GOOD CALL!!!!!! :-) (I know I said I wanted the thread to die, but anytime I see someone say something positive about community banking I have to give them a thumbs up.)


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: CEG5952 on July 13, 2014, 07:40:14 PM
In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.
Thank God there is one person on this forum with half a brain...

I guess the rest of us don't have a brain, just because we didn't nod along with OP's storytelling.

Right? I mean, it's plausible and everything, but there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon. And there's plenty of bagholders around trying to do anything they can to pump the price. :)
If it is plausible and you have nothing to refute the statement then why would you call BS?

There's a difference between being "plausible" and being "likely", and obviously that's further yet from being "true". And what I said was, "there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon." I'm saying don't be gullible and keep an open mind. Many people would use unsubstantiated rumors to confirm their own biases. It happens every day. :)
But the OP really does not have anything/much to gain by people believing him, and you have nothing to gain by proving/saying he is full of BS.

Yes he does. Have you ever been on finance forums? People try to pump and dump all the time. Yes, people are desperate enough to baselessly try to pump the price, and some people are gullible enough to let it cloud their judgment. Also, read what I said again, because you didn't seem to comprehend. I'm not here to "gain" anything.... ::)


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 13, 2014, 07:45:45 PM
Please stop arguing over whether or not I'm full of shit. I can provide proof to a single TRUSTWORTHY, vetted member of the community if they can convince me that they will not share the information that I give them that will prove I am telling the truth. Obviously, it shouldn't be anyone who has posted in this thread, yet, as there are clearly biased opinions all ready.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: Skele on July 13, 2014, 08:00:35 PM

I tried to get him to invest a significant amount of money back when Bitcoin was around $100 last summer (June 2013)...by November 2013 of last year he realized he should have listened.

However it's not so late, these days are a good opportunity for investing, the time for a banking boom is near and so the prices...


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: InwardContour on July 13, 2014, 09:11:39 PM
In reference to the OP, I would not be entirely surprised if the OPs father worked for Chase, or another Bitcoin "hostile" bank as even banks that are not friendly to bitcoin have a legit need to understand bitcoin and the bitcoin economy.
Thank God there is one person on this forum with half a brain...

I guess the rest of us don't have a brain, just because we didn't nod along with OP's storytelling.

Right? I mean, it's plausible and everything, but there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon. And there's plenty of bagholders around trying to do anything they can to pump the price. :)
If it is plausible and you have nothing to refute the statement then why would you call BS?

There's a difference between being "plausible" and being "likely", and obviously that's further yet from being "true". And what I said was, "there's really no reason for us to eat it up with a spoon." I'm saying don't be gullible and keep an open mind. Many people would use unsubstantiated rumors to confirm their own biases. It happens every day. :)
But the OP really does not have anything/much to gain by people believing him, and you have nothing to gain by proving/saying he is full of BS.

Yes he does. Have you ever been on finance forums? People try to pump and dump all the time. Yes, people are desperate enough to baselessly try to pump the price, and some people are gullible enough to let it cloud their judgment. Also, read what I said again, because you didn't seem to comprehend. I'm not here to "gain" anything.... ::)
Do you think that the OP really would have any kind of impact on a crypto currency that has a $8 billion market cap by posting on these forums?


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: CEG5952 on July 13, 2014, 09:20:03 PM
Yes he does. Have you ever been on finance forums? People try to pump and dump all the time. Yes, people are desperate enough to baselessly try to pump the price, and some people are gullible enough to let it cloud their judgment. Also, read what I said again, because you didn't seem to comprehend. I'm not here to "gain" anything.... ::)
Do you think that the OP really would have any kind of impact on a crypto currency that has a $8 billion market cap by posting on these forums?

Do I think that OP would really have any kind of impact (on the general exchange rate)? No. Do people still try this sort of thing? Yes. Do gullible people fall for it? Yes.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: scarsbergholden on July 13, 2014, 10:30:07 PM
Yes he does. Have you ever been on finance forums? People try to pump and dump all the time. Yes, people are desperate enough to baselessly try to pump the price, and some people are gullible enough to let it cloud their judgment. Also, read what I said again, because you didn't seem to comprehend. I'm not here to "gain" anything.... ::)
Do you think that the OP really would have any kind of impact on a crypto currency that has a $8 billion market cap by posting on these forums?

Do I think that OP would really have any kind of impact (on the general exchange rate)? No. Do people still try this sort of thing? Yes. Do gullible people fall for it? Yes.

People are desperate -- they'd definitely stoop to that, haha. I remember seeing stuff like this on the Yahoo! Finance forums. Pretty blatant, but whatever. And yeah, people be falling for it. ;D


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: moriartybitcoin on July 13, 2014, 11:20:19 PM
OP is dead wrong.

Banks like Bitcoin the same way that humans like dogshit ...


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: jbreher on July 13, 2014, 11:47:57 PM
But anyway, I have heard multiple times that banks are warming up to bitcoin, could someone explain this to me? or is that just bs and rumors? Why would banks be "bullish" about a technology/currency that would drastically reduce the need for their companies in the longterm? If bitcoin ever went mainstream and was widely adopted, wouldn't banks suffer huge losses and have to heavily downsize?

Well, if indeed bitcoin completely disrupts the entire financial industry, then the banking industry will need to downsize, yes.

So if you run a bank, and you come to a realization that such a fate is becoming more and more probable as time passes, you essentially have to choose between two alternatives.

The first is to continue doing business as usual, and resist bitcoin to the best of your ability. If you take this course, however, and bitcoin does indeed become a huge success, then you go out of business.

The second alternative is to try to find ways to use bitcoin in your own day-to-day operations, products, and services. If you are more successful than your peers in making such adaptations, you might become the dominant bank within the radically downsized banking sector. Indeed, if you plan and execute smashingly well, your enlarged slice of the smaller pie might actually result in net growth for your company.

tl; dr: adapt or die.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: seriouscoin on July 14, 2014, 12:58:34 AM
I don't really believe OP

But anyway, I have heard multiple times that banks are warming up to bitcoin, could someone explain this to me? or is that just bs and rumors? Why would banks be "bullish" about a technology/currency that would drastically reduce the need for their companies in the longterm? If bitcoin ever went mainstream and was widely adopted, wouldn't banks suffer huge losses and have to heavily downsize?

Maybe they could "implement" it by exchanging for fiat and securely storing it for people who don't want to store it themselves. But this would only speed up their demise, it would make bitcoin more credible and trustworthy, and take away more power from fiat over time(to the point where one of their services-exchanging for fiat, is useless). In addition if it went mainstream, there would be many more startup companies to compete with, who could likely be more innovative and offer cheaper services than a traditional bank is willing to. Banks could still deal in credit, investments, and other financial services though I suppose.

First many banks dismissed bitcoin as a fad, then they realized bitcoin may play a role here, and right now many are in the stages of "researching and looking for opportunities to potentially implement digital currency"etc. I have a feeling many banks are realizing the massive threat that digital currency posses to their companies in the longterm. Do you think digital currencies are going to start seeing a pushback from major banks and probably governments soon? I only say the governments too because of the lobbying and network of connections formed between them.

Also this is kind of unrelated, but if anyone can help me out with another question I would appreciate it. If bitcoin ever did go mainstream, is there any effective way for the government to tax it? I'd imagine this would be a concern and weapon used against bitcoin if there is a large pushback from banks and the govs


Do you want to have a grape or a slice of a melon?


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: xinzark on July 14, 2014, 01:05:53 AM
So you mean the bank in the us now are crashing the price by rumor in order to join the party ?

If the bank want join the party the bitcoin are not enought for them to do loan or watever in need .


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: seriouscoin on July 14, 2014, 01:11:27 AM
So you mean the bank in the us now are crashing the price by rumor in order to join the party ?

If the bank want join the party the bitcoin are not enought for them to do loan or watever in need .

explain genius, pls....  ::)


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: montreal on July 14, 2014, 01:12:39 AM
Quote

Do you want to have a grape or a slice of a melon?


depends on the weather.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: oXo on July 14, 2014, 01:29:44 AM
My father is the CEO of the biggest Internet services company and i approve this thread 100% .



My father can beat your father up.

No offense op but I call bullshit. If your father was in jeep rosy of losing his well established career because you made this post then maybe you should think about that before posting. The fact that you are so defensive makes it seem like you're lying but it doesn't really matter either way.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: Musent on July 14, 2014, 02:39:38 AM
I'd say the opposite is happening. They are staying far away from BTC, for now.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: e4xit on July 14, 2014, 03:00:08 PM
Please stop arguing over whether or not I'm full of shit. I can provide proof to a single TRUSTWORTHY, vetted member of the community if they can convince me that they will not share the information that I give them that will prove I am telling the truth. Obviously, it shouldn't be anyone who has posted in this thread, yet, as there are clearly biased opinions all ready.

Provide evidence to Danny Hamilton ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60820 ) he is trustworthy and will report back here with findings using terms agreed to with you.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: EtherCoin on July 14, 2014, 04:06:20 PM
Man can't wait what this will turn into.

*goes buy popcorn*

Eth.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 14, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
Danny, if you are reading this and are willing to vouch for my credibility, please send me a Private message and we can maybe figure something out.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: oXo on July 14, 2014, 04:30:39 PM
Danny, if you are reading this and are willing to vouch for my credibility, please send me a Private message and we can maybe figure something out.

No one cares if your dad is CEO of so called major bank. Really.

If you provided proof to the whole forum what would change? It's still so early in the bitcoin stages banks won't get involved even if your dad says he should of invested in bitcoin awhile ago.


Title: Re: Expect banks to start becoming more BTC friendly..
Post by: MrGreenHat on July 14, 2014, 04:44:54 PM


No one cares if your dad is CEO of so called major bank. Really.

If you provided proof to the whole forum what would change? It's still so early in the bitcoin stages banks won't get involved even if your dad says he should of invested in bitcoin awhile ago.

It seems like a lot of people DO care since they are calling me full of shit, but you have made a valid point. This is all really, really dumb.  I initially made this post because I thought that some people might be interested on how an executive banker with a 35+ year career feels about bitcoin. I wasn't trying to boast or brag.

edit: The only reason I am considering this is because of all the jackasses who assume that I am attempting to somehow manipulate the market in my favor. Yes, I'm sure there are people who come on here all the time and try to pump up the price, how often does it work, I wonder? Probably never. I just don't want to be remembered as "the guy who made up a BS story to try to pump up the price", because that is not my intention, and it never was. I plan on posting here in the future and I don't want all of my posts to be prejudiced by this thread.