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Title: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: dunand on March 16, 2012, 03:26:32 AM
I would like to know the total price including taxes. Thanks.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: dropt on March 16, 2012, 05:00:16 PM
I ordered 2.  Shipping was $34 USD since I ordered them together.

Total was:  $1,232.00  USD ->  $1,254.82 CAD.

I haven't received them yet, so I have no idea if I'm going to get hit with brokerage (I really hope not).


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: DILLIGAF on March 16, 2012, 05:46:31 PM
I ordered 2.  Shipping was $34 USD since I ordered them together.

Total was:  $1,232.00  USD ->  $1,254.82 CAD.

I haven't received them yet, so I have no idea if I'm going to get hit with brokerage (I really hope not).

Any courier package I have received has the brokerage fees added onto to it, Canada Post sometimes they charge the brokerage and taxes sometimes they do not and speaking of taxes since it will have commercial invoice attached to the package look forward to whatever your province charges GST, HST, GST & PST  on the value of the shipment added onto that brokerage fee as well.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: allinvain on March 16, 2012, 11:12:16 PM
I do hope that the import/brokerage taxes are included in the shipping as otherwise we'd have to pay the 6% import tax and I'm pretty sure the government would want their usual 13% HST as well on top of that.

DILIGAF is probably right - ie we'll have to pay HST and the brokerage fees.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: kliffen on March 18, 2012, 08:26:57 AM
If i were you guys, i'd order them to a friend/family in the US and make them ship it to you, as a gift or with a lower value written on the package.

This is just me though. I know some people actually enjoy paying taxes


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: dropt on March 20, 2012, 08:05:19 AM
Any courier package I have received has the brokerage fees added onto to it, Canada Post sometimes they charge the brokerage and taxes sometimes they do not and speaking of taxes since it will have commercial invoice attached to the package look forward to whatever your province charges GST, HST, GST & PST  on the value of the shipment added onto that brokerage fee as well.

I do hope that the import/brokerage taxes are included in the shipping as otherwise we'd have to pay the 6% import tax and I'm pretty sure the government would want their usual 13% HST as well on top of that.

DILIGAF is probably right - ie we'll have to pay HST and the brokerage fees.


From my experience it depends who they're shipping with.  I've yet to pay brokerage/tax with USPS.  Fedex and UPS have both charged brokerage plus taxes in the past.

Fingers crossed...


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: allinvain on March 21, 2012, 08:16:06 AM
Any courier package I have received has the brokerage fees added onto to it, Canada Post sometimes they charge the brokerage and taxes sometimes they do not and speaking of taxes since it will have commercial invoice attached to the package look forward to whatever your province charges GST, HST, GST & PST  on the value of the shipment added onto that brokerage fee as well.

I do hope that the import/brokerage taxes are included in the shipping as otherwise we'd have to pay the 6% import tax and I'm pretty sure the government would want their usual 13% HST as well on top of that.

DILIGAF is probably right - ie we'll have to pay HST and the brokerage fees.


From my experience it depends who they're shipping with.  I've yet to pay brokerage/tax with USPS.  Fedex and UPS have both charged brokerage plus taxes in the past.

Fingers crossed...

Hmm, I see. It would be nice if there was a Canadian here on the forum who already received his/her BFL Single. AFAIK there aren't any yet.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: Garr255 on March 21, 2012, 10:55:13 PM
I live in northern Idaho, so if you live in southern BC, you could drive four hours and pick it up :P


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: Skrivitor on March 28, 2012, 09:32:58 PM
It may be valuable to note that certain items made in the USA, Mexico, Chile and Costa Rica are not subject to customs tariffs.  I am still reading through the specific schedules to find a reference but here is the documentation and couple places to check out. 

THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO HST/GST - that is a federal sales tax that should be paid on all purchases that are not exempt (like some food items like milk or a cake that serves 6 or more)

Ad supported site that talks about cross boarder shopping: http://www.crossbordershopping.ca/duty-tax-import-guide/duty-tax-tips
Canada Revenue Agency Landing page for Tariffs: http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-commerce/tariff-tarif/2008/01-99/tblmod-1-eng.html
Section of the Tariff schedule that applies to electronics: http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-commerce/tariff-tarif/2008/t2008-01/ch85-eng.pdf

I learned about this last year when I was looking into buying a metal lathe.  Lathes and other metal working equipment can be tariff free if made in the USA, Mexico, Chile or Costa Rica.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: byronbb on March 29, 2012, 10:06:43 PM
Seems to depend on who is  your shipper. UPS is CRIMINAL when shipping into Canada from the US. Conversely, I have NEVER been charged ANYTHING when receiving something from the US via USPS.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: Skrivitor on March 29, 2012, 10:18:36 PM
Seems to depend on who is  your shipper. UPS is CRIMINAL when shipping into Canada from the US. Conversely, I have NEVER been charged ANYTHING when receiving something from the US via USPS.
Agreed, the part the Government takes is nothing compared to the "brokerage fee", but it is much more faster than USPS/Canada Post.  Too bad there are no resellers for BFL in Canada.

This is helpful for figuring out the total cost of some things: http://www.thefinalcost.com/


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: mitak64 on June 15, 2012, 05:48:57 PM
Anyone with real-life experience ?


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: Turbor on June 15, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
Anyone with real-life experience ?

Ask Fefox.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: Fefox on June 15, 2012, 05:59:15 PM
First shipment spent days in customs, Canada Customs didn't open it but charged $71 per Single plus a $8.50 handling fee for the package.

Second shipment was in and out of customs in a matter of hours, nothing was charged.

both packages identical, same contents same markings..




Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: Epoch on June 15, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
In other words, YMMV. Depends how bored Customs happens to be that day. Worst case you will be charged GST/HST/PST on the full declared value of the Single ($600USD). Typically that will be around 12%, or $72 (as FeFox described). Best case you won't be charged anything. Luck of the draw.

If you declare your mining earnings as income on your upcoming income tax return, you can deduct the Customs charges (as well as the cost of the Single) for a tax break.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: BCMan on June 15, 2012, 10:55:20 PM
 Return them back.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: dropt on June 17, 2012, 06:54:26 PM
Return them back.
::)


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: lightbox on June 18, 2012, 03:00:51 PM
Mine were each charged 13% HST on the way in (Ontario).. i was expected to pay it at the door when they delivered it


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: Epoch on June 18, 2012, 03:02:34 PM
Mine were each charged 13% HST on the way in (Ontario).. i was expected to pay it at the door when they delivered it
Almost as criminal as the 20% VAT. Almost.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: allinvain on June 18, 2012, 03:16:47 PM
Same here..came out to $160 CAD.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: Fiyasko on June 18, 2012, 04:49:18 PM
Same here..came out to $160 CAD.
jusssst fuckinnggg greaaatttt, I can order all the videocards etc i want from that reason without the MEGAFEE
But if i want a BFLproduct i'll get slammed with 13%+? Fuck that....

Reminds me of when i bought an EHDD and they tried to slap a $78 fee on it for a "consield electrical component worth more than the declaired value"

Uhh no US customs, That was a $200 CASE with a broken HDD in it.

So i just fucking Left it there to Rot. i aint paying $140 for a $19 EHDD case


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: DILLIGAF on June 18, 2012, 07:45:07 PM
Same here..came out to $160 CAD.
jusssst fuckinnggg greaaatttt, I can order all the videocards etc i want from that reason without the MEGAFEE
But if i want a BFLproduct i'll get slammed with 13%+? Fuck that....

As a commercial company they have to declare the value on the invoice and if the customs officer does his job that day which sometimes they don't then you will be charged the tax applicable in your province plus the brokerage fees to get it, otherwise if not doing their job it will just get delivered at your door no extra charges.


Title: Re: BFL single shipping to Canada. Your experience.
Post by: lowlevel on May 30, 2013, 08:38:09 PM
Seems to depend on who is  your shipper. UPS is CRIMINAL when shipping into Canada from the US. Conversely, I have NEVER been charged ANYTHING when receiving something from the US via USPS.
Agreed, the part the Government takes is nothing compared to the "brokerage fee", but it is much more faster than USPS/Canada Post.  Too bad there are no resellers for BFL in Canada.

This is helpful for figuring out the total cost of some things: http://www.thefinalcost.com/

This is a bit of a scam... I called UPS to complain about it once, and they told me $20 of it was a COD fee to collect the duty/taxes at the door. You can apparently set up an account with them so they can bill your account instead of at the door... but I just decided I'de never use UPS again.