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Sanctions against Russia spark AK-47 buying frenzy in US
http://rt.com/usa/175652-kalashnikov-sanction-gun-sales/


And Russian stocks are up after the European sanctions.

Sanctions be good.  ;D

Brilliant!

Just read a blog that expands the "sanctions be good" line of thought. :)

What happens when Latvia sanctions the most popular Russian singers...

http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/war-on-all-fronts-mcdonalds-may-be-booted-out-of-russia-latvia-bans-russian-superstars-why-did-yatsenyuk-resign/

I would disagree. Russia is posing a serious threat to Europe and the US.

Yes a serious threat to their plans of world domination

Like it or not Russia and China is what keeps the U.S and Europe in check, if it weren't for them they'd just roll over the planet and turn it into the New World Order the nutters like to rant about on the internet. I don't claim the Chinese or Russians are the good guys in the slightest but they make the western powers think twice.

Spot on! where would Snowden be if not for Russia, Wake Up! The US and EU are out of controll

i agree they are out of control, and it's sometimes hard to figure out how bad the US is compared to russians.

We like our guns over here. ;) And, that's coming from someone that doesn't consider himself part of the polishing community (Molon Labe types).

At the least Russians are honest, they want to take over someone they do it. They don't play proxy influence wars. Or murder people on other side of the world...

Is AK-47 intellectually protected?

Who is gaining the most? Russian IP or American weapon manufacturer?

That is exactly what they are doing. They are supplying money, training, and weapons to the seperasts. They are not admitting to doing this, but it is well known that they are.

Considering amount of weapons influenced by the design I don't think there are any royalties involved. AK-47 is iconic, but there are lot of superior versions of it around, so this feels quite stupid.

Pardon me but fuck you.

You have no idea what you are writing about.

Sanctions aren't good. I track the RUSL 3x ETF fund, and its dropped 25% since Obama did his thing.

This ETF is a "basket" of stocks, leveraged 3 times forward, representing the major Russian business ventures.

Obama made billions disappear into the aether. He's like that dude from DUNE who speaks a word and KILLS.

With oil and nat gas prices going lower, which is Russia's major export, expect some turbulence.

This mess isn't good for Russia.

They are up against an opponent who has historical and political grievances.

On top of it all, Ukraine doesn't have a pot to piss in, which gives them nothing to lose.

And to complicate matters, the Russian speaking oblast in Donetsk has a claim, IMHO, to self determination.


All the killing should stop and folks should talk. Truce already, goddamnit.

I've read all this and I think people are getting ready for Doomsday!

And it's only a pure coincidence between this 2 events!

Serje, the beat goes on and the killing machine will ALWAYS grind ahead.

"Doomsday" happened when man started killing man on an organized basis.

I don't like AK-47 because it's not a black rifle.

And black rifles are scrary.

Another copy & paste of unproven statement.

It's not intellecually protected as far as I know, the gun originates from communistic times, 1948,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47)

I beg to differ. Even if Russia helps the freedom fighters, which is nothing but speculation, they are helping Russians living on the land that was exclusively a part of Russia prior to 1917 and wasn't technically another country until 1992, to defend themselves from an invasion, with the residents of said land voting at a referendum of 1993 against split of USSR and being split from Russia, and again during a referendum of 2014 voting for independence. That's not "the other side of the world", as done by another country that we all know of. This is a big difference.


It all depends if IzhMash factory took a copyright on it. I cannot find any info about it.
Here is the factory's website. The US embargo is basically targeting this factory:
http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/trade/

That would be a trademark and/or a patent, rather than a copyright and no, the design was never patented and has been in the public domain almost since the beginning.

"3. The inventor of the AK-47 did not profit from the gun. Communist states had no patents, and until its collapse in 1991, Kalashnikov was simply an employee of the Soviet Union."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mikhail-kalashnikov-dead-10-things-2957513

i call bullshit. i wouldn't say russians are more honest than the americans, it's just that they don't have the infrastructure to circumvent shit with a pseudo-democracy.

you do know that russians were highly involved in southeast asia, china, afghanistan, and probably many other countries, right? they were part of the proxy wars too.

I would argue that most modern wars are some form of proxy wars. With the advent of nuclear weapons two countries with nuclear bombs do not want to fight eachother as they would both likely lose (nuclear war).

yes, that's why i said in the "are we going to see WW3 soon?" that it is not likely. no one wants to fight with another developed nation, or one that has nuclear weapons. they'll just do what has been happening - gain resources, make your enemy rely on it, and if they mess with you, sanction their ass. and then fund proxy wars.

That was during the cold war...Russia is far smaller and less powerful now to be doing that ( I remember those days as I'm a product of the 80's  ;D.) The US and EU are still gaming
the system to this day.

one could even make the argument that nuclear weapons has improved world peace for this very reason

You know, this thread was supposed to be about H.Obama's illegal, arbitrary and unjustified executive order and it has now turned into something else entirely.

Why do you guys do that?

Oh, by the way, in case you haven't noticed, H.Obama is now enforcing the terms of international treaties on individaul American citizens who had no vote in the matter.

There was some study done somewhere that any economic sanctions are not effective and in fact have an opposite effect: the country under sanctions starts to develop other sectors of its economy, the countries that impose the sanctions suffer from loss of business, etc. The same is going to happen here.

yeah, until entire continents get blown up. peace and prosperity for 100 years, and then world annihlation.. is not worth it to me.

Kalashnikov ‘feels sorry’ for sanctions-struck American customers
http://rt.com/usa/176368-kalashnikov-pity-american-customers/

Kalashnikov should tell its customers to purchase their AK-47 from SR 2.0.

I am not sure whether they are available on SR 2.0 or not, but in BMR there was a wide choice of assault rifles and other weapons.

You know, in the context of sanctions, I have no problem with including a popular export product, the AK47 family of rifles.  They aren't exactly a sole source, those things are made all over the place.  If the ban on Kalishnikov remains in place after the sanctions are lifted, you've got a point.

I'm not even in favor of sanctions and I'm way to the pro gun side, by the way.

I should probably start a separate thread to mock the sanctions... still:

Russia sanctions may hit Finland — president
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/743268

Rosneft: EU sanctions on oil equipment are not critical
http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/743250

Sanctions against Russia already taking toll on Western businesses — FT
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/743245

Ukraine is barking too the tune:
Ukraine plans sanctions on companies with Russian capital — official
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/743242

Now that Ukraine shells Russia with artillery even more, Russia clearly need to be put under heavier sanctions for not allowing a full-scale invasion and stubbornly continuing with diplomatic rebukes.

Why don't Kalashnikov sell his gun to Russian citizen ?