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Title: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 04, 2011, 05:10:27 AM I'm thinking of making something like adf.ly (http://adf.ly) that uses bitcoin as the currency. Would anyone use this? Anyone want to help? I bought adb.tc just in case...
Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Raoul Duke on May 04, 2011, 08:10:26 AM I'm thinking of making something like adf.ly (http://adf.ly) that uses bitcoin as the currency. Would anyone use this? Anyone want to help? I bought adb.tc just in case... I would use it if you pay a little better than adfly... Yes, i use adfly and i send them some thousand visitors every month. Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 04, 2011, 02:06:26 PM I'm thinking of making something like adf.ly (http://adf.ly) that uses bitcoin as the currency. Would anyone use this? Anyone want to help? I bought adb.tc just in case... I would use it if you pay a little better than adfly... Yes, i use adfly and i send them some thousand visitors every month. Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: gigabytecoin on May 04, 2011, 09:24:50 PM I'm thinking of making something like adf.ly (http://adf.ly) that uses bitcoin as the currency. Would anyone use this? Anyone want to help? I bought adb.tc just in case... Go for it! Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Anonymous on May 05, 2011, 01:19:22 AM Awesome idea. I have a use for this :)
Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 05, 2011, 03:33:57 AM Glad I have support on this! I'll start working on it today! :D
Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 06, 2011, 01:59:53 AM Anyone have any pricing suggestions? What should I charge advertisers? What should I pay... uh... shorteners?
Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 09, 2011, 03:22:27 AM Still looking for what you guys would like to see in terms of pricing. I should have this up pretty soon after the prices are decided. Is there anyone who would like to be one of the first advertisers?
Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: bitlotto on May 09, 2011, 03:34:50 AM I'd advertise probably. Maybe set up a set number of slots people bid on, then rotate them through, when the links are used. It could be a per month price, the total payments are then divided between you and the people creating the links. Then have statistics on how many hits for the month and advertisers would use that to help adjust how much they want to bid. Maybe? Perhaps somehow set up bonuses for Bitcoin related websites. That's really who I'd want to target anyways.
Title: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: Bit_Happy on May 09, 2011, 04:18:33 AM IMO:
If you are a "cold, heartless, selfish money-grabber" (which you do have every right to be) who does not care about people, then go ahead and introduce this horrible plan into the Bitcoin community. If you understand this fact: Quote warning about clicking on adf.ly links. that site is used to shorten links BUT also makes money for the person who provided the link by forcing you to view an ad before seeing actual content. this person is wasting your time and using you to make money. ~Source (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/massena-ny/T6713DLF8AJJQN6P9)Then please consider not doing the project, thank you. Edit: re: adf.ly users If you want to pollute your own blog/website with adf.ly that is your choice to make.
I have serious issues with people who do that, as should most "decent people", IMO. Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: gigabytecoin on May 09, 2011, 04:27:04 AM IMO: If you are a "cold, heartless, selfish money-grabber" (which you do have every right to be) who does not care about people, then go ahead and introduce this horrible plan into the Bitcoin community. If you understand this fact: Quote warning about clicking on adf.ly links. that site is used to shorten links BUT also makes money for the person who provided the link by forcing you to view an ad before seeing actual content. this person is wasting your time and using you to make money. ~Source (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/massena-ny/T6713DLF8AJJQN6P9)Then please consider not doing the project, thank you. Just because one bad apple spams his adf.ly links doesn't mean you have to spoil the bunch. The greatest thing about this project would be the fact that small portions of BTC would be distributed to probably 10k - 100k third worlders (if it ever took off) and would be much more successful than the faucet in terms of distributing wealth/getting a few bitcoins for a number of reasons. And yes, the adf.ly promotional team consists of 90%+ people living in extremely poor countries, because adf.ly pays peanuts for clicks. I wouldn't use it personally, but there is an enormous market for something like this. Also BTC makes the payouts of $1USD or less possible. There would be no minimum payouts with a BTC oriented adf.ly - that slogan alone would be enough to steal probably half of their promoters. Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: Bit_Happy on May 09, 2011, 04:30:15 AM IMO: If you are a "cold, heartless, selfish money-grabber" (which you do have every right to be) who does not care about people, then go ahead and introduce this horrible plan into the Bitcoin community. If you understand this fact: Quote warning about clicking on adf.ly links. that site is used to shorten links BUT also makes money for the person who provided the link by forcing you to view an ad before seeing actual content. this person is wasting your time and using you to make money. ~Source (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/massena-ny/T6713DLF8AJJQN6P9)Then please consider not doing the project, thank you. Just because one bad apple spams his adf.ly links doesn't mean you have to spoil the bunch. The greatest thing about this project would be the fact that small portions of BTC would be distributed to probably 10k - 100k third worlders (if it ever took off) and would be much more successful than the faucet in terms of distributing wealth/getting a few bitcoins for a number of reasons. And yes, the adf.ly promotional team consists of 90%+ people living in extremely poor countries, because adf.ly pays peanuts for clicks. I wouldn't use it personally, but there is an enormous market for something like this. Also BTC makes the payouts of $1USD or less possible. There would be no minimum payouts with a BTC oriented adf.ly - that slogan alone would be enough to steal probably half of their promoters. FYI: I was editing my post while you were writing your response. My opinion has been clarified and strengthened, and I'm not looking to debate this horrible Internet "scum-ware" crap. Quote Edit: re: adf.ly users If you want to pollute your own blog/website with adf.ly that is your choice to make. * Some admins use it on forums and the "hi-jacked" links are added without the end-user being aware his/her link is being altered. ^^^ I have serious issues with people who do that, as should most "decent people", IMO. Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: Raoul Duke on May 09, 2011, 04:31:36 AM IMO: If you are a "cold, heartless, selfish money-grabber" (which you do have every right to be) who does not care about people, then go ahead and introduce this horrible plan into the Bitcoin community. If you understand this fact: Quote warning about clicking on adf.ly links. that site is used to shorten links BUT also makes money for the person who provided the link by forcing you to view an ad before seeing actual content. this person is wasting your time and using you to make money. ~Source (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/massena-ny/T6713DLF8AJJQN6P9)Then please consider not doing the project, thank you. Edit: re: adf.ly users If you want to pollute your own blog/website with adf.ly that is your choice to make.
I have serious issues with people who do that, as should most "decent people", IMO. Thanks for calling me a not decent person... Now, GTFO! Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: Bit_Happy on May 09, 2011, 04:34:07 AM ... Thanks for calling me a not decent person... Now, GTFO! I have every right to post my opinion, and I did it in an acceptable manner, did you? Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 09, 2011, 04:35:49 AM IMO: I personally haven't actually used adf.ly yet, but I first discovered it when people were using it to redirect to the downloads of their mods on the minecraft forum. These people were not using people to make money. They had made great, free mods that people really liked, and people using their adf.ly links was just kind of like something to help them out a little. Yes, people have to go through an annoying ad, but they were getting something back. I understand that some users will just start spamming adb.tc links everywhere for money, but I think this can also be a way to help out developers who give freely to the community, but maybe just want a little bit in return. Is anyone else opposed to this? If I get enough people to say so on this thread, I'll put an end to this project, but I personally think this may become something good.If you are a "cold, heartless, selfish money-grabber" (which you do have every right to be) who does not care about people, then go ahead and introduce this horrible plan into the Bitcoin community. If you understand this fact: Quote warning about clicking on adf.ly links. that site is used to shorten links BUT also makes money for the person who provided the link by forcing you to view an ad before seeing actual content. this person is wasting your time and using you to make money. ~Source (http://www.topix.com/forum/city/massena-ny/T6713DLF8AJJQN6P9)Then please consider not doing the project, thank you. Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2011, 04:36:38 AM I was considering using this on the ilikebitcoin.com site where people who "like" and share the page with others can get randomn bitcoin amounts for doing so.
Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: Raoul Duke on May 09, 2011, 04:41:14 AM ... Thanks for calling me a not decent person... Now, GTFO! I have every right to post my opinion, and I did it in an acceptable manner, did you? OK, one acceptable answer... So people can make money by selling drugs and human organs with bitcoin, but internet marketers can't show ads and be paid in bitcoin, is that it? If adf.ly and all the ads are so nasty to you just use adblock and join the crowd who thinks servers and domains pay for themselves with no ads on websites. BTW, be very careful: I spread around 100k adf.ly links every day. Don't make me earn money by clicking one of them, kthxbye? EDIT:
So you are one of those guys that clicks links without checking where it takes you by just hovering the pointer over it before clicking... I wouldn't login to my bank account in your computer that's for sure! Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: Bit_Happy on May 09, 2011, 05:27:25 AM psy, Let's get on the same page, so we can reach an understanding:
... So you are one of those guys that clicks links without checking where it takes you by just hovering the pointer over it before clicking... I wouldn't login to my bank account in your computer that's for sure! No, I am not. Are you above 14 years old psy, and do you have a decent grasp on the English language? Adf.ly links (when used without the end-users* knowledge) are something highly unethical, which is called link-hijacking *end-user (in this context) = Person posting the link, not the person clicking. Here is my point, quite simply:
If you do not understand the above is wrong (highly unethical), then there is nothing I can do to help you, at this time. @Ryland Taylor-Almanza Your project has potential legit uses and can also be abused by site owners who do not understand a concept a simple as: link-hijacking is highly unethical. You now know, I voted "thumbs-down", but it is only my opinion. I could have kept quiet, played it safe, and not risked "making enemies", but that is not easy for me to do. :P Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Longmarch on May 09, 2011, 05:36:06 AM Highly unethical?
Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on May 09, 2011, 05:52:11 AM You now know, I voted "thumbs-down", but it is only my opinion. I could have kept quiet, played it safe, and not risked "making enemies", but that is not easy for me to do. :P Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Raoul Duke on May 09, 2011, 05:58:44 AM Highly unethical? Highly! LOL psy, Let's get on the same page, so we can reach an understanding: So, what you are saying is that in a site that isn't user generated content it's perfectly fine to use adf.ly? ::)... So you are one of those guys that clicks links without checking where it takes you by just hovering the pointer over it before clicking... I wouldn't login to my bank account in your computer that's for sure! Adf.ly links (when used without the end-users* knowledge) are something highly unethical, which is called link-hijacking *end-user (in this context) = Person posting the link, not the person clicking. Here is my point, quite simply:
If you do not understand the above is wrong (highly unethical), then there is nothing I can do to help you, at this time. You surely know that the internet is composed by several types of web properties being user generated content sites just one of those types, don't you? :o So, using your reasoning we should also put an end to bitcoin because people use it to sell highly unethical stuff? Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: BitLex on May 09, 2011, 06:06:37 AM Here is my point, quite simply:
If you do not understand the above is wrong (highly unethical), then there is nothing I can do to help you, at this time. what i don't get is, why it makes adf.ly (or similar) a bad service. it's those forum-admins/-operators who act unethical, not the ad-services they abuse. adf.ly, or linkbucks, to name anotherone don't hi-jack anything, they don't hide what they have to offer and they don't force you to use them, nor to show full-page ads to clickers before showing any content, you could also decide to use framed ads, but you'll earn less (even less than you get anyway :D). Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: Raoul Duke on May 09, 2011, 06:12:21 AM it's those forum-admins/-operators who act unethical, not the ad-services they abuse. How are they abusing the service if it's the service who provides the script to turn all external links into ad-links? I would say they are just using a feature of the service, not abusing it! Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: BitLex on May 09, 2011, 06:18:59 AM well, the 'abuse' in Bit_Happy's example is,
that they do it without telling the end-user about it (where end-user is the person posting the link, not the one clicking it, if i got that right). it's not actually an abuse of the ad-services, which provide those scripts for ethical use. anyway, i think it's a cool idea, even though it's not new and services like that will pop up sooner or later anyway, so do it! Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Raoul Duke on May 09, 2011, 06:23:46 AM well, the 'abuse' in Bit_Happy's example is, that they do it without telling the end-user about it (where end-user is the person posting the link, not the one clicking it, if i got that right). it's not actually an abuse of the ad-services, which provide those scripts for ethical use. Exactly! If something they are abusing the end-users, not the ad-service. Title: Re: adf.ly is so annoying! Post by: Bit_Happy on May 09, 2011, 06:25:03 AM you're right as far as you say link hi-jacking is highly unethical, what i don't get is, why it makes adf.ly (or similar) a bad service. it's those forum-admins/-operators who act unethical, not the ad-services they abuse.... This is what I said earlier: Quote re: adf.ly users If you want to pollute your own blog/website with adf.ly that is your choice to make. * Some admins use it on forums and the "hi-jacked" links are added without the end-user being aware his/her link is being altered. ^^^ I have serious issues with people who do that, as should most "decent people", IMO. We agree almost 100%, Bitlex. ...as a friend who is trying to warn me about possible outcomes of my project. :) I like to take everyones opinions into consideration, and I definitely see the reasoning behind yours. Your opinion is valid... Thanks, nice to meet you Ryland. :) BitLex, made a good point that the fault lies in the site admins, not the software. Also, you seem to have established a demand for your project. Someone mentioned a "download service" type usage and there (for example) I agree the ads would be expected. In many other places, those ad.fly ads are truly "crap" and that will always be my opinion. On the bright side:
Title: LOL? Post by: Bit_Happy on May 09, 2011, 06:32:56 AM So, using your reasoning... Perhaps I missed your answer: Are you above 14 years old psy, and do you have a decent grasp on the English language? re: ad.fly Here is an example of someone who shares my opinion: Quote Is this a plugin to make money or make sure none of your users ever come back to your forum? I'm confused... oO; ~Source (http://community.mybb.com/thread-67948-post-516020.html#pid516020)LOL? :P Title: Re: LOL? Post by: Raoul Duke on May 09, 2011, 06:39:38 AM So, using your reasoning... Perhaps I missed your answer: Are you above 14 years old psy, and do you have a decent grasp on the English language? re: ad.fly Here is an example of someone who shares my opinion: Quote Is this a plugin to make money or make sure none of your users ever come back to your forum? I'm confused... oO; ~Source (http://community.mybb.com/thread-67948-post-516020.html#pid516020)LOL? :P No, my son is older than 14, which means probably older than you... :o You should spend less time in forums because you really seem to think the internet is just forums... And i really like how you ignored everything i said and went to the insult part that i was trying to ignore. That really shows who the child is! YOU! PS: It's sad that you have to go to other forums to find someone who "shares your opinion"... The only problem is that you don't seem to have one, you just steal the opinions from others! Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: fetokun on May 09, 2011, 06:56:03 AM I think this is a very good idea! I don't see any problems with it at all.
Adds are everywhere on the web (torrents, 4shared, rapidshare, ...), and this is pretty fair since all this services are free! What Bit_Happy considers "hijacking" I consider a reasonable way to charge your users, only instead of charging money you're charging a very little time of their eyeballs. And you're not doing it for nothing, you're helping to bring to the user that content he wanted and clicked on your link for. About spammers... they are the "unethical" ones (just like with e-mails), not the service providers. Title: Re: LOL? Post by: Bit_Happy on May 09, 2011, 07:33:54 AM ... No, my son is older than 14, which means probably older than you... :o You should spend less time in forums because you really seem to think the internet is just forums... And i really like how... Reality Post #13 is very rude http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7191.msg112231#msg112231 Post #17 is inaccurate, and shows a genuine lack of attention to detail: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7191.msg112248#msg112248 Would you honestly want your son to see the way you treat other people? Seriously,
<back on topic> Ads are a huge industry and proper use can benefit many individuals and the Bitcoin economy. Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Bit_Happy on May 09, 2011, 07:42:21 AM ... What Bit_Happy considers "hijacking" I consider a reasonable way to charge your users, only instead of charging money you're charging a very little time of their eyeballs. And you're not doing it for nothing, you're helping to bring to the user that content he wanted and clicked on your link for....
If you want to pollute your own blog/website with adf.ly that is your choice to make. * Some admins use it on forums and the "hi-jacked" links are added without the end-user (who posted the link) being aware his/her link is being altered. ^^^ I have serious issues with people who do that, as should most "decent people", IMO. Title: Re: LOL? Post by: Raoul Duke on May 09, 2011, 07:43:26 AM Seriously,
Yes, he should know how to treat guys like you from the start! Now, get over it! btw, don't you know what an EDIT button is? Stop double posting! You should give more attention to detail yourself, because when you are writing a reply you have a list with all previous replies and a link to insert a quote in your reply, no need for double posts! Title: Re: LOL? Post by: Bit_Happy on May 09, 2011, 08:29:24 AM ... Now, get over it!... You think there is anything to get over, LOL! ... btw, don't you know... Anyone who reads this thread, with any real attention to detail, knows well enough by now... Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Raoul Duke on May 09, 2011, 08:36:01 AM Anyone have any pricing suggestions? What should I charge advertisers? What should I pay... uh... shorteners? Prices charged to advertisers in adf.ly. Please note that these values change daily in their website but it should give you a general idea of the price. If you want i can get you also the Leaderboard prices and the value they pay to publishers. Probably will be better to send it to you in a PM or else it will be a big wall of text! Or maybe you can just go to their website and see for yourself. Not sure if those pages need login or not. Quote Price 1,000 Interstitial ads Worldwide Traffic from all over the world. $1.00 Proxy Traffic Traffic from proxy servers. All the rules above still apply EXCEPT it is from known proxy servers, great for some quick and cheap traffic. This is still human traffic, no bots. 1/2 PRICE SALE! $0.40 United States US $5.00 United Kingdom GB $4.00 Australia AU $3.00 Canada CA $3.00 Cyprus CY $3.00 Germany DE $3.00 Greece GR $3.00 Ireland IE $3.00 Korea, Republic Of KR $3.00 Netherlands NL $3.00 New Zealand NZ $3.00 Singapore SG $3.00 South Africa ZA $3.00 United Arab Emirates AE $3.00 France FR $2.50 Austria AT $2.00 Belgium BE $2.00 China CN $2.00 Czech Republic CZ $2.00 Denmark DK $2.00 Finland FI $2.00 Hong Kong HK $2.00 Hungary HU $2.00 India IN $2.00 Italy IT $2.00 Japan JP $2.00 Latvia LV $2.00 Norway NO $2.00 Poland PL $2.00 Portugal PT $2.00 Romania RO $2.00 Slovakia SK $2.00 Spain ES $2.00 Sweden SE $2.00 Switzerland CH $2.00 Turkey TR $2.00 Venezuela VE $2.00 Bosnia And Herzegovina BA $1.50 Brazil BR $1.50 Croatia HR $1.50 Serbia RS $1.50 Algeria DZ $1.00 Argentina AR $1.00 Armenia AM $1.00 Bangladesh BD $1.00 Bolivia BO $1.00 Bulgaria BG $1.00 Chile CL $1.00 Colombia CO $1.00 Ecuador EC $1.00 Egypt EG $1.00 Georgia GE $1.00 Israel IL $1.00 Libya LY $1.00 Lithuania LT $1.00 Macao MO $1.00 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic Of MK $1.00 Malaysia MY $1.00 Mexico MX $1.00 Montenegro ME $1.00 Morocco MA $1.00 Pakistan PK $1.00 Peru PE $1.00 Philippines PH $1.00 Russian Federation RU $1.00 Saudi Arabia SA $1.00 Slovenia SI $1.00 Sri Lanka LK $1.00 Taiwan TW $1.00 Tunisia TN $1.00 Ukraine UA $1.00 Indonesia ID $0.50 Thailand TH $0.50 Vietnam VN $0.50 Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: HostFat on March 09, 2012, 05:36:33 PM Any news about this project?
Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Nicolai Larsen on March 09, 2012, 06:30:50 PM It's not a bad idea.
Modders who link their mods usually use something like this to earn a bit for their work. What's wrong with that? Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: Raoul Duke on March 09, 2012, 07:57:40 PM It's not a bad idea. Modders who link their mods usually use something like this to earn a bit for their work. What's wrong with that? What's wrong is that some guys think everything should be free on the internet. Title: Re: adf.ly of Bitcoin Post by: HostFat on March 12, 2012, 11:05:00 AM The last post of Ryland is dated January 17, 2012.
Is he dead or jailed? :o Title: Re: [Suspicious link removed] of Bitcoin Post by: iC0de55 on January 15, 2018, 11:04:25 PM WOw. your site http://adb.tc/ looks great.i registered me on the site. also the payments are 2x better than adfly :) Thank you for this awesome earning website
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