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May 04, 2011, 05:10:27 AM
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I'm thinking of making something like adf.ly that uses bitcoin as the currency. Would anyone use this? Anyone want to help? I bought adb.tc just in case...

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May 04, 2011, 08:10:26 AM
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I'm thinking of making something like adf.ly that uses bitcoin as the currency. Would anyone use this? Anyone want to help? I bought adb.tc just in case...

I would use it if you pay a little better than adfly...
Yes, i use adfly and i send them some thousand visitors every month.
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May 04, 2011, 02:06:26 PM
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I'm thinking of making something like adf.ly that uses bitcoin as the currency. Would anyone use this? Anyone want to help? I bought adb.tc just in case...

I would use it if you pay a little better than adfly...
Yes, i use adfly and i send them some thousand visitors every month.
I plan on paying better Smiley

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May 04, 2011, 09:24:50 PM
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I'm thinking of making something like adf.ly that uses bitcoin as the currency. Would anyone use this? Anyone want to help? I bought adb.tc just in case...

Go for it!
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Awesome idea. I have a use for this Smiley
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May 05, 2011, 03:33:57 AM
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Glad I have support on this! I'll start working on it today! Cheesy

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Anyone have any pricing suggestions? What should I charge advertisers? What should I pay... uh... shorteners?

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Still looking for what you guys would like to see in terms of pricing. I should have this up pretty soon after the prices are decided. Is there anyone who would like to be one of the first advertisers?

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I'd advertise probably. Maybe set up a set number of slots people bid on, then rotate them through, when the links are used. It could be a per month price, the total payments are then divided between you and the people creating the links. Then have statistics on how many hits for the month and advertisers would use that to help adjust how much they want to bid. Maybe? Perhaps somehow set up bonuses for Bitcoin related websites. That's really who I'd want to target anyways.

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IMO:
If you are a "cold, heartless, selfish money-grabber" (which you do have every right to be) who does not care about people, then go ahead and introduce this horrible plan into the Bitcoin community.

If you understand this fact:
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warning about clicking on adf.ly links. that site is used to shorten links BUT also makes money for the person who provided the link by forcing you to view an ad before seeing actual content. this person is wasting your time and using you to make money.
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Then please consider not doing the project, thank you.

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re: adf.ly users
If you want to pollute your own blog/website with adf.ly that is your choice to make.
  • Some admins use it on forums and the "hi-jacked" links are added without the end-user being aware his/her link is being altered.
^^^
I have serious issues with people who do that, as should most "decent people", IMO.

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IMO:
If you are a "cold, heartless, selfish money-grabber" (which you do have every right to be) who does not care about people, then go ahead and introduce this horrible plan into the Bitcoin community.

If you understand this fact:
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warning about clicking on adf.ly links. that site is used to shorten links BUT also makes money for the person who provided the link by forcing you to view an ad before seeing actual content. this person is wasting your time and using you to make money.
~Source
Then please consider not doing the project, thank you.

Just because one bad apple spams his adf.ly links doesn't mean you have to spoil the bunch.

The greatest thing about this project would be the fact that small portions of BTC would be distributed to probably 10k - 100k third worlders (if it ever took off) and would be much more successful than the faucet in terms of distributing wealth/getting a few bitcoins for a number of reasons.

And yes, the adf.ly promotional team consists of 90%+ people living in extremely poor countries, because adf.ly pays peanuts for clicks.

I wouldn't use it personally, but there is an enormous market for something like this.

Also BTC makes the payouts of $1USD or less possible. There would be no minimum payouts with a BTC oriented adf.ly - that slogan alone would be enough to steal probably half of their promoters.
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IMO:
If you are a "cold, heartless, selfish money-grabber" (which you do have every right to be) who does not care about people, then go ahead and introduce this horrible plan into the Bitcoin community.

If you understand this fact:
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warning about clicking on adf.ly links. that site is used to shorten links BUT also makes money for the person who provided the link by forcing you to view an ad before seeing actual content. this person is wasting your time and using you to make money.
~Source
Then please consider not doing the project, thank you.

Just because one bad apple spams his adf.ly links doesn't mean you have to spoil the bunch.

The greatest thing about this project would be the fact that small portions of BTC would be distributed to probably 10k - 100k third worlders (if it ever took off) and would be much more successful than the faucet in terms of distributing wealth/getting a few bitcoins for a number of reasons.

And yes, the adf.ly promotional team consists of 90%+ people living in extremely poor countries, because adf.ly pays peanuts for clicks.

I wouldn't use it personally, but there is an enormous market for something like this.

Also BTC makes the payouts of $1USD or less possible. There would be no minimum payouts with a BTC oriented adf.ly - that slogan alone would be enough to steal probably half of their promoters.

FYI:
I was editing my post while you were writing your response.
My opinion has been clarified and strengthened, and I'm not looking to debate this horrible Internet "scum-ware" crap.

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If you want to pollute your own blog/website with adf.ly that is your choice to make.

    * Some admins use it on forums and the "hi-jacked" links are added without the end-user being aware his/her link is being altered.
^^^
I have serious issues with people who do that, as should most "decent people", IMO.

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IMO:
If you are a "cold, heartless, selfish money-grabber" (which you do have every right to be) who does not care about people, then go ahead and introduce this horrible plan into the Bitcoin community.

If you understand this fact:
Quote
warning about clicking on adf.ly links. that site is used to shorten links BUT also makes money for the person who provided the link by forcing you to view an ad before seeing actual content. this person is wasting your time and using you to make money.
~Source
Then please consider not doing the project, thank you.

Edit:
re: adf.ly users
If you want to pollute your own blog/website with adf.ly that is your choice to make.
  • Some admins use it on forums and the "hi-jacked" links are added without the end-user being aware his/her link is being altered.
^^^
I have serious issues with people who do that, as should most "decent people", IMO.

Thanks for calling me a not decent person... Now, GTFO!
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Thanks for calling me a not decent person... Now, GTFO!

I have every right to post my opinion, and I did it in an acceptable manner, did you?

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IMO:
If you are a "cold, heartless, selfish money-grabber" (which you do have every right to be) who does not care about people, then go ahead and introduce this horrible plan into the Bitcoin community.

If you understand this fact:
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warning about clicking on adf.ly links. that site is used to shorten links BUT also makes money for the person who provided the link by forcing you to view an ad before seeing actual content. this person is wasting your time and using you to make money.
~Source
Then please consider not doing the project, thank you.
I personally haven't actually used adf.ly yet, but I first discovered it when people were using it to redirect to the downloads of their mods on the minecraft forum. These people were not using people to make money. They had made great, free mods that people really liked, and people using their adf.ly links was just kind of like something to help them out a little. Yes, people have to go through an annoying ad, but they were getting something back. I understand that some users will just start spamming adb.tc links everywhere for money, but I think this can also be a way to help out developers who give freely to the community, but maybe just want a little bit in return. Is anyone else opposed to this? If I get enough people to say so on this thread, I'll put an end to this project, but I personally think this may become something good.

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I was considering using this on the ilikebitcoin.com site where people who "like" and share the page with others can get randomn bitcoin amounts for doing so.
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    ...
    Thanks for calling me a not decent person... Now, GTFO!

    I have every right to post my opinion, and I did it in an acceptable manner, did you?

    OK, one acceptable answer...

    So people can make money by selling drugs and human organs with bitcoin, but internet marketers can't show ads and be paid in bitcoin, is that it?

    If adf.ly and all the ads are so nasty to you just use adblock and join the crowd who thinks servers and domains pay for themselves with no ads on websites.

    BTW, be very careful: I spread around 100k adf.ly links every day. Don't make me earn money by clicking one of them, kthxbye?

    EDIT:
    • Some admins use it on forums and the "hi-jacked" links are added without the end-user being aware his/her link is being altered.
    ^^^

    So you are one of those guys that clicks links without checking where it takes you by just hovering the pointer over it before clicking...
    I wouldn't login to my bank account in your computer that's for sure!
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    May 09, 2011, 05:27:25 AM
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    psy, Let's get on the same page, so we can reach an understanding:

    ...
    So you are one of those guys that clicks links without checking where it takes you by just hovering the pointer over it before clicking...
    I wouldn't login to my bank account in your computer that's for sure!


    No, I am not. Are you above 14 years old psy, and do you have a decent grasp on the English language?
    Adf.ly links (when used without the end-users* knowledge) are something highly unethical, which is called link-hijacking

    *end-user (in this context) = Person posting the link, not the person clicking.

    Here is my point, quite simply:
    • Some admins use it on forums and the "hi-jacked" links are added without the end-user (who posted the link) being aware his/her link is being altered.

    If you do not understand the above is wrong (highly unethical), then there is nothing I can do to help you, at this time.



    @Ryland Taylor-Almanza
    Your project has potential legit uses and can also be abused by site owners who do not understand a concept a simple as: link-hijacking is highly unethical.

    You now know, I voted "thumbs-down", but it is only my opinion.
    I could have kept quiet, played it safe, and not risked "making enemies", but that is not easy for me to do.   Tongue

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    May 09, 2011, 05:36:06 AM
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    You now know, I voted "thumbs-down", but it is only my opinion.
    I could have kept quiet, played it safe, and not risked "making enemies", but that is not easy for me to do.   Tongue

    I do not see you as an enemy, but as a friend who is trying to warn me about possible outcomes of my project. Smiley I like to take everyones opinions into consideration, and I definitely see the reasoning behind yours. Your opinion is valid, and even though it hasn't completely changed my mind, I have not disregarded it.

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