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So, the two big alts have been launched at a few days difference. Which one you would go for and why ?

Ethereum will not be launched for a couple of months.

They both have pluses and minuses.

Ethereum sounds interesting but its possible it will be used only by programmers.

Stellar is Ripple fork so it has the best technology out there but there is still 94,8 billions that they plan to distribute fast so big dump might be coming.

Well, Ethereum is a new piece of software, instead of a subjectively unneeded fork. I don't intend on buying either, but Ethereum has my support. You can already write contracts, and it's pretty fun.

I would have gone for Ethereum, but there's so much money been thrown at it that it would need to become bigger than bitcoin to pay a decent ROI.

I think ethereum is a bigger and long lasting project, on the other side stellar could be a viral coin with a great initial hype, but the time will tell.

Stellar is for everyone,  it gives people an opportunity  to try and test the payment system with no investment.

Yeah, but most of those people already tested it when Ripple had giveway 2 years ago.

Stellar has great marketing. I like the donation part a lot. Jed gives STR to organizations and then community donates money to buy those STR from organizations. It will be very generous community.

Now we are getting Stellar free, so we will want Stellar will become huge success.

Exactly. Jed has played an awesome game here. He has opened it to everyone having a FB account. So, now anyone can hold a part of Stellar and this huge mass want it to be successful. Ether lacks here... Adoption :)

It seems that Ethereum will have trouble to get mass support.

ethereum

As per the voting results, Stellar is still leading :)

Both are pretty crooked.

Ethereum is an open ponzi scheme ran by wealthy investors and there's the Goldmansach's connection.  To see any ROI (compared with the risk involved) on it, unless you invest six figures or more, you have to wait for Ethereum to hit billions..   when there is no incentive for subsequent investors to come in.  Ethereum videos on YouTube only have hundreds of views (minus the odd video which gets thousands) and  obscure media articles.  There's nothing there to build an million user base like Bitcoin.

By the way - it took Java and C++ a good decade to work out all the bugs and to educate a generation of developers to program in that code.  Ethereum creating a new language I think is more of a liability than a plus.

Stellar is a fork of Ripple with it being "free", the free part is almost a joke since right now it is a 99.7% premine and Stellar-Stripe currently controls 94% of tradeable Stellar at the moment (they have 5 billion versus the 300 million they issued so far).  The "SS" (Stellar Stripe) can easily manipulate prices much like the Ripple.  This is obviously a capitalization scam like Aurora was before the air drop (which made the Aurora developer very rich) and it can be compared with Marine Coin and Solar Coin and even Ripple.

SS promises they plan on distributing the remainder of their 99.7% premine but Ripple made the same claim years ago and reigned on it.  SS right now is doing the same.  They claim they are sending people $10 worth of Stellar but are sending less or none at all (accompanied with a congratulations email).  As well I don't see how they can get millions of users anytime soon, so Stellar will be sitting on a 99% premine for years.

I like stellar,it's free for promotion.

You do understand that bitcoin was also laughed out of crypto forums at first too riiight ??

I've been around the sun enough to understand that majority is not always correct.

they are for different purposes, ethereum will be a platform to build decentralized software and apps or creating currencies, while stellar is more focused on a decentralized system of currency transfer it can be virtual like bitcoin or fiat.

i guess people like Stellar coz it;s free ;)

i vote Stellar  ;D

It's bait and not even worth that much.  Only $10 they are giving out (if they give out that much, many report getting far less).

Stellar-Stripe ("SS") have 5 billion tradeable Stellar versus the 300 million they traded out.  They're also sitting on a 99.7 premine being 99.7 billion out of 100 billion coins.

It's one thing to receive free coins and to dump.  It's another to buy coins as Stellar-Stripe pretty much controls almost all of it.  It's pretty much Ripple but with a free buy in which is popular with blackhat hackers with fake facebook accounts and third world people.  Many people are saying they acquired millions of Stellar by advertising to people in India to claim Stellar with their facebook accounts and sending it them to for $5.

but it is difficult to get one share.

Ethereum because stellar brings nothing new.

Ethereum. I am sold on its potential.

Both have interesting things to look at from a nerd viewpoint but let's be honest there for a second, are they really necessary when we have Bitcoin? Not really. This is why I didn't invest.

my guts say none of it.  :o

Ethereum is the Big deal !
Why? it allows decentralized Bitfunder ! (and many other things)
An introduction into Ethereum: (by Vitalik Buterin & Charles Hoskinson)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5FDvzj8YX4
a good video for developers: (by Dr.Gavin Wood)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO1AxsYAkU8#t=13

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My vote is for Ethereum... it really feels like it could become the Oil of cryptos (being bitcoin the Gold). Stellar looks like it could have its function as btc/fiat exchange layer with 100% legal compliance. After all, Stripe is a payments juggernaut.

Disclaimer: I'm happy owner of both, ether and stellars..  ;D

i also vote stellar ! i think it will be a huge success

I am on the edge of my seat. The winner of this titanic competition will surely dominate the financial world for generations to come.  :-\

How about none?

Both won't bring much utility to the common people. Sure there are some usecases for it, but those are very limited and even vitalik is avoiding this topic all the time saying: "so many things can be built with it." but what? "We will see.."

Well, people buy into that crap, let them...

Both are crappy investment and borderline scam.

You should give a look here:
http://codius.org

This will be compatible with Bitcoin, Ripple, Stellar, Litecoin ... every kind of blockchain/ledger.
It's made to build oracles and smart contracts.

And there are others:
https://github.com/orisi/orisi
https://github.com/jgarzik/moxiebox

I'm not sure that Ethereum or what else will be really better than Stellar, but are you sure that it will be so unique and fundamental? ;)

Well, Stellar is the EXACT SAME as that fail, scam Ripple, with "better distribution". Ethereum is a completely new thing all together.

So, anyone who doesn't have their head up their ass, would obviously choose Ethereum.

But is the question really what is the better tech, or is it what is the better investment?

Because if I had to chose to invest into either right now, I would decline and spend the BTC on hookers and blows. Way better return. ;)

Ethereum promises A LOT more than Ripple/Stellar, but it also faces more bugs/problems that may arise. Overall, I'd even choose Dogecoin over Stellar.

Borderline at best

99.7% premine and 94% control of tradeable coins for Stellar...
or Ethereum which is distributed according to how much you invested.


Both aren't great.  Ethereum's ambitious goals means bugs and problems and possibly a long wait.  As well the huge IPO means any ROI is likely going to be little unless it goes to the moon somehow (easier said than done - didn't happen yet for Maidsafe or Mastercoin, people who invested huge amounts into that coin would had made more with Dogecoin and Darkcoin).

Probably gonna just buy bitshares

what is ether? and whats the huge thing about stellar anyways? i have 6900 worth of stellar

Ether is good,but Stellar is great.Steller can bring more people in.

So where is the codious coin or the codious ipo??  :D now it doesnt surprise me if one of this thing comes daily ..

On topic, stellar is doing a clearly new experiment with that facebook repartition..  there can be so many variables with that, so we can even expect a huge bubble or something unexpected as we dont know what happens if you bring digital currency to so many people.

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