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Title: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: darkota on August 05, 2014, 10:57:23 PM Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate.
With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public. Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: franky1 on August 05, 2014, 11:25:27 PM if the government and central banks wanted to create bitcoin. they could have created it.
meaning they could have coded it behind closed doors, premined it. and the swapped their current database account system with nodes and simply accredited each account holder with a privkey that was made from their bank details and a secret seed. and fill that public address with "dollarcoin". we would have been non the wiser of this new banking system because to us all we see is a paper bank statement and or a balance on a website or ATM screen. the general public would have been non the wiser of what actual code makes up the bank system. we would have been non the wiser thatif banks used crypto currency as their ledger, that the data on the 'chip and pin' cards was simply a privkey and not standard bank account numbers so if government and central banks made bitcoin, then government and banks would be using ... well an altcoin.. as their bases of accounting the ledger of account holders, as its alot easier and more secure with no single point of failure compared to the banks standard systems of this last decade. but im afraid to tell you that governments and banks are NOT using a crypto currency based ledger system, put it another way. sat nav was not invented by the public, it was invented by the government, and they utilized it first in secret, they made it part of their world as they seen it was better then compasses/maps/sonar. it wasnt until years later that it was released to the public and commercialized. so going back to bitcoin. if the government made it thy would be the first to use it to standardize and secure banks and then release it out to the world later. so please will the OP and everyone else with a conspiracy theory branded tin foil hat. please stop making up stories about something that is soooooooo open and soo transparent.. as being made by secret agencies, your theories would hold weight if you could show evidence, but just reading your crap theories i can tell that you have not even bothered to read the white paper, or read the code or read any of the open communications of the last 5 years between developers. you have no clue at all. i bet you have not read more then 2 messages posted on this forum by satoshi (although there are hundreds more. ) so before you make another crack pot theory, atleast do some research and provide links, atleast make the crack pot theory entertaining with an image.. just do something other than make crack pot theories. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: elliwilli on August 05, 2014, 11:50:05 PM The US gov and the banks would not make bitcoin.
Something like ripple though? With set authorities and being distributed rather than free to expand at the will of the users, yep, sounds perfect for them. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: franky1 on August 05, 2014, 11:52:48 PM The US gov and the banks would not make bitcoin. Something like ripple though? With set authorities and being distributed rather than free to expand at the will of the users, yep, sounds perfect for them. even ripple was not a government invention. nor useful government and banks equivalent to ripple is called FOREX Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: keithers on August 05, 2014, 11:56:18 PM I would go out on a limb and say that there are some US Government employees that are on this forum, but not on duty...
Just because they work for the government doesn't mean that they are 24 hours a day, job pride, trying to find people to prosecute. They could just be here in their spare time. Hell, didn't Mccain get caught playing poker on his cell phone during a Senate meeting or something like that? Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: mnmShadyBTC on August 05, 2014, 11:58:41 PM The US gov and the banks would not make bitcoin. I would kind of doubt that the USG would create either of these. I really don't see the upside to the government for either bitcoin or ripple. Something like ripple though? With set authorities and being distributed rather than free to expand at the will of the users, yep, sounds perfect for them. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: bitsmichel on August 06, 2014, 12:03:49 AM Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate. With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public. Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin. It may as well be the former Egyptian government. It doesn't really matter who created it, they have no more control over it than you and me. In the same way that torrent or peer-to-peer networks cannot be taken down. I don't think the public would say it is socialist/communist, they would say 'it wouldn't work'. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: Possum577 on August 06, 2014, 12:36:09 AM If the US Government came out and said they started Bitcoin, why would anyone revolt?
Why would people think it's socialist? It might give the US Government some improved "street cred", haha, or at least some people may increase their respect for the project. Others of course, would sell their Bitcoin not wanting to participate in yet another pet project of a major government. I'm sure there's 20 other responses people would have - but why revolt and claims of socialism? Bitcoin isn't socialist in any way... Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: Possum577 on August 06, 2014, 12:37:37 AM The phrase is "none the wiser" not "non the wiser".
if the government and central banks wanted to create bitcoin. they could have created it. meaning they could have coded it behind closed doors, premined it. and the swapped their current database account system with nodes and simply accredited each account holder with a privkey that was made from their bank details and a secret seed. and fill that public address with "dollarcoin". we would have been non the wiser of this new banking system because to us all we see is a paper bank statement and or a balance on a website or ATM screen. the general public would have been non the wiser of what actual code makes up the bank system. we would have been non the wiser thatif banks used crypto currency as their ledger, that the data on the 'chip and pin' cards was simply a privkey and not standard bank account numbers so if government and central banks made bitcoin, then government and banks would be using ... well an altcoin.. as their bases of accounting the ledger of account holders, as its alot easier and more secure with no single point of failure compared to the banks standard systems of this last decade. but im afraid to tell you that governments and banks are NOT using a crypto currency based ledger system, put it another way. sat nav was not invented by the public, it was invented by the government, and they utilized it first in secret, they made it part of their world as they seen it was better then compasses/maps/sonar. it wasnt until years later that it was released to the public and commercialized. so going back to bitcoin. if the government made it thy would be the first to use it to standardize and secure banks and then release it out to the world later. so please will the OP and everyone else with a conspiracy theory branded tin foil hat. please stop making up stories about something that is soooooooo open and soo transparent.. as being made by secret agencies, your theories would hold weight if you could show evidence, but just reading your crap theories i can tell that you have not even bothered to read the white paper, or read the code or read any of the open communications of the last 5 years between developers. you have no clue at all. i bet you have not read more then 2 messages posted on this forum by satoshi (although there are hundreds more. ) so before you make another crack pot theory, atleast do some research and provide links, atleast make the crack pot theory entertaining with an image.. just do something other than make crack pot theories. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: nutildah on August 06, 2014, 12:51:23 AM This is the same guy who started a thread titled "Litecoin is Dead," and then went around deleting all the replys to the contrary. He still bumps his own thread. Either he is trying to buy cheap litecoin or he has a screw loose. Either way, I didn't even read this post because there's no reason to because this guy wrote it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: darkota on August 06, 2014, 12:52:12 AM if the government and central banks wanted to create bitcoin. they could have created it. meaning they could have coded it behind closed doors, premined it. and the swapped their current database account system with nodes and simply accredited each account holder with a privkey that was made from their bank details and a secret seed. and fill that public address with "dollarcoin". we would have been non the wiser of this new banking system because to us all we see is a paper bank statement and or a balance on a website or ATM screen. the general public would have been non the wiser of what actual code makes up the bank system. we would have been non the wiser thatif banks used crypto currency as their ledger, that the data on the 'chip and pin' cards was simply a privkey and not standard bank account numbers so if government and central banks made bitcoin, then government and banks would be using ... well an altcoin.. as their bases of accounting the ledger of account holders, as its alot easier and more secure with no single point of failure compared to the banks standard systems of this last decade. but im afraid to tell you that governments and banks are NOT using a crypto currency based ledger system, put it another way. sat nav was not invented by the public, it was invented by the government, and they utilized it first in secret, they made it part of their world as they seen it was better then compasses/maps/sonar. it wasnt until years later that it was released to the public and commercialized. so going back to bitcoin. if the government made it thy would be the first to use it to standardize and secure banks and then release it out to the world later. so please will the OP and everyone else with a conspiracy theory branded tin foil hat. please stop making up stories about something that is soooooooo open and soo transparent.. as being made by secret agencies, your theories would hold weight if you could show evidence, but just reading your crap theories i can tell that you have not even bothered to read the white paper, or read the code or read any of the open communications of the last 5 years between developers. you have no clue at all. i bet you have not read more then 2 messages posted on this forum by satoshi (although there are hundreds more. ) so before you make another crack pot theory, atleast do some research and provide links, atleast make the crack pot theory entertaining with an image.. just do something other than make crack pot theories. TOR is in part funded by a government owned entity. I'm saying that the government simply realized that the USD could/would collapse on itself after a while(as shown by the recession in 2008 in America and more), and that the government used the codename, Satoshi Nakamoto(which is a very common name in Japan, similar to Europe's "John Smith"), to put Bitcoin out to the world. It does make sense, considering according to a article I read a while back, only 300 people in the world could of created Bitcoin back in 2009. The NSA has the worlds smartest minds working for it, and with extensive reach. I find it very plausible that Satoshi Nakamoto is simply a codename for the Bitcoin project made by the government/branch of government. It's also very likely that Satoshi was more than one person, given his extensive use of the word "our". It also explains why Satoshi made it a top priority to Hide his tracks, so he wouldn't be found. It's either the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto worked for a branch of the government and made Bitcoin and released it to the world, or the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto is one hell of a genius who has extreme expertise in cryptography, which would make you question where he got his knowledge from(government, university?) Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: adaseb on August 06, 2014, 12:54:36 AM This thread makes absolutely no sense what so ever.
Why create bitcoin and then have to deal with the tax issues or even the silk road issues? Its more like an anti government movement if anything. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: darkota on August 06, 2014, 12:57:21 AM This thread makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Why create bitcoin and then have to deal with the tax issues or even the silk road issues? Its more like an anti government movement if anything. Ok you obviously have no idea the rate technology is expanding and how creating something like Bitcoin would actually open up new ideas/paths for stopping criminals etc. Yea, I have no idea why I made this thread since the replies I've gotten are full of ignorant stupidity. It's odd how people involved in Bitcoin are supposed to be open, but they're all wearing 10 inch thick tinfoil hats. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: nutildah on August 06, 2014, 01:01:43 AM This thread makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Why create bitcoin and then have to deal with the tax issues or even the silk road issues? Its more like an anti government movement if anything. Ok you obviously have no idea the rate technology is expanding and how creating something like Bitcoin would actually open up new ideas/paths for stopping criminals etc. Yea, I have no idea why I made this thread since the replies I've gotten are full of ignorant stupidity. It's odd how people involved in Bitcoin are supposed to be open, but they're all wearing 10 inch thick tinfoil hats. But you believe "litecoin is dead" when its clearly not. What kind of a belief system is that? Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: darkota on August 06, 2014, 01:07:34 AM If the US Government came out and said they started Bitcoin, why would anyone revolt? Why would people think it's socialist? It might give the US Government some improved "street cred", haha, or at least some people may increase their respect for the project. Others of course, would sell their Bitcoin not wanting to participate in yet another pet project of a major government. I'm sure there's 20 other responses people would have - but why revolt and claims of socialism? Bitcoin isn't socialist in any way... People would say they're trying to create a one world order and be communist etc where everyone has equal pay. I saw a post by a claimed 12 year old saying that he/she thought Bitcoin would give everyone equal pay. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: beetcoin on August 06, 2014, 02:25:01 AM I would go out on a limb and say that there are some US Government employees that are on this forum, but not on duty... Just because they work for the government doesn't mean that they are 24 hours a day, job pride, trying to find people to prosecute. They could just be here in their spare time. Hell, didn't Mccain get caught playing poker on his cell phone during a Senate meeting or something like that? well, snowden was working for the NSA and he leaked all their shit. same with manning and the military. it should be expected that some government workers are into bitcoin. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: Yakamoto on August 06, 2014, 02:34:16 AM I would go out on a limb and say that there are some US Government employees that are on this forum, but not on duty... Just because they work for the government doesn't mean that they are 24 hours a day, job pride, trying to find people to prosecute. They could just be here in their spare time. Hell, didn't Mccain get caught playing poker on his cell phone during a Senate meeting or something like that? well, snowden was working for the NSA and he leaked all their shit. same with manning and the military. it should be expected that some government workers are into bitcoin. If the US Government came out and said they started Bitcoin, why would anyone revolt? Why would people think it's socialist? It might give the US Government some improved "street cred", haha, or at least some people may increase their respect for the project. Others of course, would sell their Bitcoin not wanting to participate in yet another pet project of a major government. I'm sure there's 20 other responses people would have - but why revolt and claims of socialism? Bitcoin isn't socialist in any way... People would say they're trying to create a one world order and be communist etc where everyone has equal pay. I saw a post by a claimed 12 year old saying that he/she thought Bitcoin would give everyone equal pay. And I agree with your point completely, that's a response that wouldn't be strange to hear. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: waldox on August 06, 2014, 03:03:39 AM government want control, they would not release a decentralized currency like bitcoin, or similarily bittorrents which they cant control.
they are already happy with the centralized digital dollars and currency for the last thousands of years, why change whats working already? im sure the authoritarian types in the government regret creating the internet, look at china's blocking of parts of the internet. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: keithers on August 06, 2014, 03:31:04 AM At the end of the day, if the government would have created BTC, they would have made it much more easily traceable.
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: franky1 on August 06, 2014, 03:37:42 AM TOR is in part funded by a government owned entity. firstly, the darkweb existed pre TOR. and yes the darkweb was a government creation and they used it to send data across the world to their secret agents and military. later TOR arrived as the public access. again government inventions are used by government before public release. I'm saying that the government simply realized that the USD could/would collapse on itself after a while(as shown by the recession in 2008 in America and more), and that the government used the codename, Satoshi Nakamoto(which is a very common name in Japan, similar to Europe's "John Smith"), to put Bitcoin out to the world. pure theory no fact. FUD FUD FUD It does make sense, considering according to a article I read a while back, only 300 people in the world could of created Bitcoin back in 2009. The NSA has the worlds smartest minds working for it, and with extensive reach. I find it very plausible that Satoshi Nakamoto is simply a codename for the Bitcoin project made by the government/branch of government. It's also very likely that Satoshi was more than one person, given his extensive use of the word "our". It also explains why Satoshi made it a top priority to Hide his tracks, so he wouldn't be found. actually smart people are not automatically employed into NSA, the truth is smart people can earn alot more privately then they can on a government salary. to add to this NSA are not that smart, the fact is in the Ross ulbrich case, NSA needed to send a drive image(ISO) to the UK's GCHQ so that the british secret service could bruteforce the password. It's either the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto worked for a branch of the government and made Bitcoin and released it to the world, or the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto is one hell of a genius who has extreme expertise in cryptography, which would make you question where he got his knowledge from(government, university?) lastly you conspiracy theorists are obsessed with trying to link bitcoin to NSA... so let me burst the big bubble for you and then let you atleast theorize some FUD that may actually hold 1% weight. if you researched 'satoshi' you would see that he has a british grammar and word pattern. so atleast theorize your fud to be more about UK's GCHQ.. not NSA :D. but your theory really failed when you think that smart people want and decide to work for NSA. really laughable thought process you lot have, especially with a largely evident lack of research to atleast try joining some straw to some actual evidence. and satoshi was not the only person that helped make bitcoin. before the white paper. satoshi, hal finney, nick szabo, and another guy (with the last name that is something like wui(sorry i forgot his full name)) these were the 4 people who had code that built up bitcoin. but it was only satoshi that brought it all together into a white paper and started making version 0.1. but then hal finney popped back on the scene and satoshi, hal finney and a small group of people helped develop the first few versions, then gavin andressen joined in. jeff garzik, etc all joined in and helped out and then took over the reigns.. and today there are upto 100 different people working on the bitcoin code. so dont presume satoshi done it all alone, he was just the smart one to pick a bit of code here, grab a theory there, tweak another idea over there, then bring it all together into the white paper. TRY TO DO SOME RESEARCH NEXT TIME!! Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: Honeypot on August 06, 2014, 04:43:08 AM People who think bitcoin is suppose to 'revolutionize' anything and talking about crypto utopia sound like those idiots back in the 90s who were preaching that internet will grant every individual a voice with dignity and freedom to engage in a communal and utopic new world of cyberspace.
How the fuck do you willingly plug yourself into the most pervasive, extensive, and powerful surveillance tool and call yourself 'free'? Apparently there's no one easier to fool then people who are 'too smart' by half. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: 22MCoin on August 06, 2014, 08:23:13 AM oh!so crazy idea!interesting.
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: jbreher on August 06, 2014, 04:08:54 PM the fact is in the Ross ulbrich case, NSA needed to send a drive image(ISO) to the UK's GCHQ so that the british secret service could bruteforce the password. This is an interesting assertion. Do you have a link to a source article? Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: Gleb Gamow on August 06, 2014, 04:14:47 PM Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate. With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public. Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin. You had me till 'improve', albeit the theory may have merit. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: movelikejagger on August 06, 2014, 04:18:36 PM it looks conspiracy theory
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: qiuxiang on August 06, 2014, 09:23:14 PM I don't think the U.S. government created Bitcoin, which in the future may hurt centralized currency in the world.
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: wordman267645 on August 23, 2014, 04:35:33 PM I don't think any government created bitcoin, it is a free market currency over the world.
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: EndlessStory on August 23, 2014, 04:56:43 PM Can't say that they didn't. Conspiracy theories might be there as well behind Bitcoin.Though having many serious drawbacks and negative impacts bitcoin network is still standing still. Of course,the insiders always have a big hand on anything as big as this
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: Cream on August 23, 2014, 04:59:58 PM Bitcoin might be made by US govt employee but not for his county/govt...for profit only..
Who knows. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: itsAj on August 23, 2014, 07:44:28 PM Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate. With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public. Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin. It may as well be the former Egyptian government. It doesn't really matter who created it, they have no more control over it than you and me. In the same way that torrent or peer-to-peer networks cannot be taken down. I don't think the public would say it is socialist/communist, they would say 'it wouldn't work'. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: jbreher on August 24, 2014, 06:31:16 PM the fact is in the Ross ulbrich case, NSA needed to send a drive image(ISO) to the UK's GCHQ so that the british secret service could bruteforce the password. This is an interesting assertion. Do you have a link to a source article? Lack of support for the assertion is noted... Oh yeah - I forgot: Quote Do not take any information given on this forum on face value. Please do your own due diligence and respect what is written here as both opinion and information gleaned from experience. If you wish to seek legal FACTUAL advice, then seek the guidance of a LEGAL specialist Indeed. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: iluvpie60 on August 24, 2014, 07:32:25 PM Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate. With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public. Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin. first of all yes they are everywhere, they are probably reading this over right now. honestly, cany you see what it really is? bitcoin founded the CIA/FBI/NSA. do you see now? you have it backwards saying the government did this, the bitcoin protocol determines wha thappens at the government level. jeeeez Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: Beliathon on August 24, 2014, 07:58:43 PM the protocol has been changed many times since it's inceptions and the protocol has been inspected and looked at by many very smart people to check for potential vulnerabilities. 'That's correct. and very important to understand. Like an academic work of mathematics, bitcoin has been, and continues to be "peer reviewed" extremely thoroughly. This is why hackers respect and use it. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: bitcoin_purist on August 24, 2014, 08:02:55 PM Well, they knew all the gold vaults were empty so they needed a fix.
They made a deal with the chineese that they could get zee gold because they were working on a digital superiour version of it (bitcoin) They already knew that the world in the west did not care about gold anymore and that it could be replaced by bitcoin because it was invented the day that SHA256 was invented. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: CozyLife on August 24, 2014, 10:14:57 PM It sounds like you might be a spook. Have you checked your badge lately? Haha! Well, anyway, you have a point as to why they can't come right out and say it, but by no means is any government 100% legitimate and for the people. Every government is corrupt and the US government is one of the more corrupt governments out there.
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: smoothie on August 24, 2014, 10:16:42 PM May as well say Bitcoin was created by Aliens.
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: wasserman99 on August 24, 2014, 11:51:46 PM the protocol has been changed many times since it's inceptions and the protocol has been inspected and looked at by many very smart people to check for potential vulnerabilities. 'That's correct. and very important to understand. Like an academic work of mathematics, bitcoin has been, and continues to be "peer reviewed" extremely thoroughly. This is why hackers respect and use it. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: Magicman420 on August 24, 2014, 11:54:12 PM No way in hell the government runs bitcoin
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: adamstgBit on August 24, 2014, 11:54:53 PM Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate. lmfao Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: botany on August 25, 2014, 12:07:42 AM the protocol has been changed many times since it's inceptions and the protocol has been inspected and looked at by many very smart people to check for potential vulnerabilities. 'That's correct. and very important to understand. Like an academic work of mathematics, bitcoin has been, and continues to be "peer reviewed" extremely thoroughly. This is why hackers respect and use it. With the widespread international adoption of bitcoin, tracking of the flow of bitcoin will not benefit any particular government (if they think they can use it to enhance tax revenue). Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: jjc326 on August 25, 2014, 12:10:16 AM But didn't someone important, I think Anderson, say you should expect that bitcoin addresses could be tracked to individuals? I think that of bitcoin gains any sort of government "recognition" they will want to eventually know who controls which address. I guess the battle will begin then.
Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: foggyb on August 25, 2014, 12:21:52 AM But didn't someone important, I think Anderson, say you should expect that bitcoin addresses could be tracked to individuals? I think that of bitcoin gains any sort of government "recognition" they will want to eventually know who controls which address. I guess the battle will begin then. Sure, through plain old detective work. Matching transactions with online identities, and then to real world identities. That's if people are careless enough to leave a trail. Bitcoin can be as anonymous as an individual wishes to be. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: taylortyler on August 25, 2014, 12:24:37 AM TOR is in part funded by a government owned entity. firstly, the darkweb existed pre TOR. and yes the darkweb was a government creation and they used it to send data across the world to their secret agents and military. later TOR arrived as the public access. again government inventions are used by government before public release. I'm saying that the government simply realized that the USD could/would collapse on itself after a while(as shown by the recession in 2008 in America and more), and that the government used the codename, Satoshi Nakamoto(which is a very common name in Japan, similar to Europe's "John Smith"), to put Bitcoin out to the world. pure theory no fact. FUD FUD FUD It does make sense, considering according to a article I read a while back, only 300 people in the world could of created Bitcoin back in 2009. The NSA has the worlds smartest minds working for it, and with extensive reach. I find it very plausible that Satoshi Nakamoto is simply a codename for the Bitcoin project made by the government/branch of government. It's also very likely that Satoshi was more than one person, given his extensive use of the word "our". It also explains why Satoshi made it a top priority to Hide his tracks, so he wouldn't be found. actually smart people are not automatically employed into NSA, the truth is smart people can earn alot more privately then they can on a government salary. to add to this NSA are not that smart, the fact is in the Ross ulbrich case, NSA needed to send a drive image(ISO) to the UK's GCHQ so that the british secret service could bruteforce the password. It's either the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto worked for a branch of the government and made Bitcoin and released it to the world, or the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto is one hell of a genius who has extreme expertise in cryptography, which would make you question where he got his knowledge from(government, university?) lastly you conspiracy theorists are obsessed with trying to link bitcoin to NSA... so let me burst the big bubble for you and then let you atleast theorize some FUD that may actually hold 1% weight. if you researched 'satoshi' you would see that he has a british grammar and word pattern. so atleast theorize your fud to be more about UK's GCHQ.. not NSA :D. but your theory really failed when you think that smart people want and decide to work for NSA. really laughable thought process you lot have, especially with a largely evident lack of research to atleast try joining some straw to some actual evidence. and satoshi was not the only person that helped make bitcoin. before the white paper. satoshi, hal finney, nick szabo, and another guy (with the last name that is something like wui(sorry i forgot his full name)) these were the 4 people who had code that built up bitcoin. but it was only satoshi that brought it all together into a white paper and started making version 0.1. but then hal finney popped back on the scene and satoshi, hal finney and a small group of people helped develop the first few versions, then gavin andressen joined in. jeff garzik, etc all joined in and helped out and then took over the reigns.. and today there are upto 100 different people working on the bitcoin code. so dont presume satoshi done it all alone, he was just the smart one to pick a bit of code here, grab a theory there, tweak another idea over there, then bring it all together into the white paper. TRY TO DO SOME RESEARCH NEXT TIME!! I don't necessarily think that bitcoin was created by any government...I mean...it's possible but there's really no evidence indicating that it was. However, if I were Satoshi, I would throw some linguistic curve balls, like the british grammar/sentence structure, into my paper to even further secure my anonymity. Title: Re: Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government Post by: hikedoon on August 25, 2014, 01:33:15 AM Occam's Razor would suggest to me that Satoshi Nakamoto has a strong connection to the electricity generating industry.
But The whole point of Cryptography seems to be obfuscation and sending people down the wrong path's,so, i wouldn't be surprised if Satoshi is a lone paranoid schizophrenic genius or a government agency either. But When you apply that old chestnut "qui bono"? Then the energy companies are at the front of the queue. The energy companies executives must love the BTC mining industry. Sort of like the "house's rake" on every BTC produced. I'm seriously thinking about buying some energy company stocks. |