Bitcoin was Made by the U.S Government

[darkota]

Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate.

With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public.

Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin.

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[franky1]

if the government and central banks wanted to create bitcoin. they could have created it.

meaning they could have coded it behind closed doors, premined it. and the swapped their current database account system with nodes and simply accredited each account holder with a privkey that was made from their bank details and a secret seed. and fill that public address with "dollarcoin".

we would have been non the wiser of this new banking system because to us all we see is a paper bank statement and or a balance on a website or ATM screen.

the general public would have been non the wiser of what actual code makes up the bank system. we would have been non the wiser thatif banks used crypto currency as their ledger, that the data on the 'chip and pin' cards was simply a privkey and not standard bank account numbers

so if government and central banks made bitcoin, then government and banks would be using ... well an altcoin.. as their bases of accounting the ledger of account holders, as its alot easier and more secure with no single point of failure compared to the banks standard systems of this last decade.

but im afraid to tell you that governments and banks are NOT using a crypto currency based ledger system,

put it another way. sat nav was not invented by the public, it was invented by the government, and they utilized it first in secret, they made it part of their world as they seen it was better then compasses/maps/sonar. it wasnt until years later that it was released to the public and commercialized.

so going back to bitcoin. if the government made it thy would be the first to use it to standardize and secure banks and then release it out to the world later.

so please will the OP and everyone else with a conspiracy theory branded tin foil hat. please stop making up stories about something that is soooooooo open and soo transparent.. as being made by secret agencies,

your theories would hold weight if you could show evidence, but just reading your crap theories i can tell that you have not even bothered to read the white paper, or read the code or read any of the open communications of the last 5 years between developers. you have no clue at all. i bet you have not read more then 2 messages posted on this forum by satoshi (although there are hundreds more. )

so before you make another crack pot theory, atleast do some research and provide links, atleast make the crack pot theory entertaining with an image.. just do something other than make crack pot theories.

[elliwilli]

The US gov and the banks would not make bitcoin.
Something like ripple though? With set authorities and being distributed rather than free to expand at the will of the users, yep, sounds perfect for them.

[franky1]

The US gov and the banks would not make bitcoin.
Something like ripple though? With set authorities and being distributed rather than free to expand at the will of the users, yep, sounds perfect for them.

even ripple was not a government invention. nor useful

government and banks equivalent to ripple is called FOREX

[keithers]

I would go out on a limb and say that there are some US Government employees that are on this forum, but not on duty... 

Just because they work for the government doesn't mean that they are 24 hours a day, job pride, trying to find people to prosecute.   They could just be here in their spare time.   Hell, didn't Mccain get caught playing poker on his cell phone during a Senate meeting or something like that?   

[mnmShadyBTC]

The US gov and the banks would not make bitcoin.
Something like ripple though? With set authorities and being distributed rather than free to expand at the will of the users, yep, sounds perfect for them.

I would kind of doubt that the USG would create either of these. I really don't see the upside to the government for either bitcoin or ripple.

[bitsmichel]

Let's be serious here, U.S Government employees are everywhere, on this forum, on chatsites, even chaterbate.

With that being said, they know the kind of BS some people spread about them with their conspiracy theories and whatnot. What if Bitcoin, was made by the government? Think about it, if the U.S government just came out and blatantly said that they created Bitcoin, then the public would react violently and start saying that the government is Socialist/Communist and etc etc. It would look bad. But, if the government made Bitcoin in secret under the sudonym, Satoshi, Nakamoto, then they could effectively improve our monetary system behind the scenes and help stop the rampant inflation the USD is facing, without having to face criticism by the complete imbeciles, we call the american public.

Basically, The U.S Government is like Batman. They do the real work in the shadows to not face criticism by ignorant people, and in those shadows, they have created a system for the future, Bitcoin.

It may as well be the former Egyptian government. It doesn't really matter who created it, they have no more control over it than you and me. In the same way that torrent or peer-to-peer networks cannot be taken down. I don't think the public would say it is socialist/communist, they would say 'it wouldn't work'.  

[Possum577]

If the US Government came out and said they started Bitcoin, why would anyone revolt?

Why would people think it's socialist?

It might give the US Government some improved "street cred", haha, or at least some people may increase their respect for the project. Others of course, would sell their Bitcoin not wanting to participate in yet another pet project of a major government.

I'm sure there's 20 other responses people would have - but why revolt and claims of socialism? Bitcoin isn't socialist in any way...

[Possum577]

The phrase is "none the wiser" not "non the wiser".

if the government and central banks wanted to create bitcoin. they could have created it.

meaning they could have coded it behind closed doors, premined it. and the swapped their current database account system with nodes and simply accredited each account holder with a privkey that was made from their bank details and a secret seed. and fill that public address with "dollarcoin".

we would have been non the wiser of this new banking system because to us all we see is a paper bank statement and or a balance on a website or ATM screen.

the general public would have been non the wiser of what actual code makes up the bank system. we would have been non the wiser thatif banks used crypto currency as their ledger, that the data on the 'chip and pin' cards was simply a privkey and not standard bank account numbers

so if government and central banks made bitcoin, then government and banks would be using ... well an altcoin.. as their bases of accounting the ledger of account holders, as its alot easier and more secure with no single point of failure compared to the banks standard systems of this last decade.

but im afraid to tell you that governments and banks are NOT using a crypto currency based ledger system,

put it another way. sat nav was not invented by the public, it was invented by the government, and they utilized it first in secret, they made it part of their world as they seen it was better then compasses/maps/sonar. it wasnt until years later that it was released to the public and commercialized.

so going back to bitcoin. if the government made it thy would be the first to use it to standardize and secure banks and then release it out to the world later.

so please will the OP and everyone else with a conspiracy theory branded tin foil hat. please stop making up stories about something that is soooooooo open and soo transparent.. as being made by secret agencies,

your theories would hold weight if you could show evidence, but just reading your crap theories i can tell that you have not even bothered to read the white paper, or read the code or read any of the open communications of the last 5 years between developers. you have no clue at all. i bet you have not read more then 2 messages posted on this forum by satoshi (although there are hundreds more. )

so before you make another crack pot theory, atleast do some research and provide links, atleast make the crack pot theory entertaining with an image.. just do something other than make crack pot theories.

[nutildah]

This is the same guy who started a thread titled "Litecoin is Dead," and then went around deleting all the replys to the contrary. He still bumps his own thread. Either he is trying to buy cheap litecoin or he has a screw loose. Either way, I didn't even read this post because there's no reason to because this guy wrote it.

[darkota]

if the government and central banks wanted to create bitcoin. they could have created it.

meaning they could have coded it behind closed doors, premined it. and the swapped their current database account system with nodes and simply accredited each account holder with a privkey that was made from their bank details and a secret seed. and fill that public address with "dollarcoin".

we would have been non the wiser of this new banking system because to us all we see is a paper bank statement and or a balance on a website or ATM screen.

the general public would have been non the wiser of what actual code makes up the bank system. we would have been non the wiser thatif banks used crypto currency as their ledger, that the data on the 'chip and pin' cards was simply a privkey and not standard bank account numbers

so if government and central banks made bitcoin, then government and banks would be using ... well an altcoin.. as their bases of accounting the ledger of account holders, as its alot easier and more secure with no single point of failure compared to the banks standard systems of this last decade.

but im afraid to tell you that governments and banks are NOT using a crypto currency based ledger system,

put it another way. sat nav was not invented by the public, it was invented by the government, and they utilized it first in secret, they made it part of their world as they seen it was better then compasses/maps/sonar. it wasnt until years later that it was released to the public and commercialized.

so going back to bitcoin. if the government made it thy would be the first to use it to standardize and secure banks and then release it out to the world later.

so please will the OP and everyone else with a conspiracy theory branded tin foil hat. please stop making up stories about something that is soooooooo open and soo transparent.. as being made by secret agencies,

your theories would hold weight if you could show evidence, but just reading your crap theories i can tell that you have not even bothered to read the white paper, or read the code or read any of the open communications of the last 5 years between developers. you have no clue at all. i bet you have not read more then 2 messages posted on this forum by satoshi (although there are hundreds more. )

so before you make another crack pot theory, atleast do some research and provide links, atleast make the crack pot theory entertaining with an image.. just do something other than make crack pot theories.

TOR is in part funded by a government owned entity.

 I'm saying that the government simply realized that the USD could/would collapse on itself after a while(as shown by the recession in 2008 in America and more), and that the government used the codename, Satoshi Nakamoto(which is a very common name in Japan, similar to Europe's "John Smith"), to put Bitcoin out to the world.

It does make sense, considering according to a article I read a while back, only 300 people in the world could of created Bitcoin back in 2009. The NSA has the worlds smartest minds working for it, and with extensive reach. I find it very plausible that Satoshi Nakamoto is simply a codename for the Bitcoin project made by the government/branch of government. It's also very likely that Satoshi was more than one person, given his extensive use of the word "our". It also explains why Satoshi made it a top priority to Hide his tracks, so he wouldn't be found.

It's either the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto worked for a branch of the government and made Bitcoin and released it to the world, or the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto is one hell of a genius who has extreme expertise in cryptography, which would make you question where he got his knowledge from(government, university?)

[adaseb]

This thread makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

Why create bitcoin and then have to deal with the tax issues or even the silk road issues?

Its more like an anti government movement if anything.

[darkota]

This thread makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

Why create bitcoin and then have to deal with the tax issues or even the silk road issues?

Its more like an anti government movement if anything.

Ok you obviously have no idea the rate technology is expanding and how creating something like Bitcoin would actually open up new ideas/paths for stopping criminals etc. Yea, I have no idea why I made this thread since the replies I've gotten are full of ignorant stupidity. It's odd how people involved in Bitcoin are supposed to be open, but they're all wearing 10 inch thick tinfoil hats.

[nutildah]

This thread makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

Why create bitcoin and then have to deal with the tax issues or even the silk road issues?

Its more like an anti government movement if anything.

Ok you obviously have no idea the rate technology is expanding and how creating something like Bitcoin would actually open up new ideas/paths for stopping criminals etc. Yea, I have no idea why I made this thread since the replies I've gotten are full of ignorant stupidity. It's odd how people involved in Bitcoin are supposed to be open, but they're all wearing 10 inch thick tinfoil hats.

But you believe "litecoin is dead" when its clearly not. What kind of a belief system is that?

[darkota]

If the US Government came out and said they started Bitcoin, why would anyone revolt?

Why would people think it's socialist?

It might give the US Government some improved "street cred", haha, or at least some people may increase their respect for the project. Others of course, would sell their Bitcoin not wanting to participate in yet another pet project of a major government.

I'm sure there's 20 other responses people would have - but why revolt and claims of socialism? Bitcoin isn't socialist in any way...

People would say they're trying to create a one world order and be communist etc where everyone has equal pay. I saw a post by a claimed 12 year old saying that he/she thought Bitcoin would give everyone equal pay.

[beetcoin]

I would go out on a limb and say that there are some US Government employees that are on this forum, but not on duty... 

Just because they work for the government doesn't mean that they are 24 hours a day, job pride, trying to find people to prosecute.   They could just be here in their spare time.   Hell, didn't Mccain get caught playing poker on his cell phone during a Senate meeting or something like that?   

well, snowden was working for the NSA and he leaked all their shit. same with manning and the military. it should be expected that some government workers are into bitcoin.

[Yakamoto]

I would go out on a limb and say that there are some US Government employees that are on this forum, but not on duty... 

Just because they work for the government doesn't mean that they are 24 hours a day, job pride, trying to find people to prosecute.   They could just be here in their spare time.   Hell, didn't Mccain get caught playing poker on his cell phone during a Senate meeting or something like that?   

well, snowden was working for the NSA and he leaked all their shit. same with manning and the military. it should be expected that some government workers are into bitcoin.

Those are government agencies. That kind of stuff is expected. Bitcoin isn't part of a government, so that's it's disadvantage,

If the US Government came out and said they started Bitcoin, why would anyone revolt?

Why would people think it's socialist?

It might give the US Government some improved "street cred", haha, or at least some people may increase their respect for the project. Others of course, would sell their Bitcoin not wanting to participate in yet another pet project of a major government.

I'm sure there's 20 other responses people would have - but why revolt and claims of socialism? Bitcoin isn't socialist in any way...

People would say they're trying to create a one world order and be communist etc where everyone has equal pay. I saw a post by a claimed 12 year old saying that he/she thought Bitcoin would give everyone equal pay.

Yeah, that thread. I know which one you're talking about.

And I agree with your point completely, that's a response that wouldn't be strange to hear.

[waldox]

government want control, they would not release a decentralized currency like bitcoin, or similarily bittorrents which they cant control.
they are already happy with the centralized digital dollars and currency for the last thousands of years, why change whats working already?
im sure the authoritarian  types in the government regret creating the internet, look at china's blocking of parts of the internet.

[keithers]

At the end of the day, if the government would have created BTC, they would have made it much more easily traceable.

[franky1]

TOR is in part funded by a government owned entity.

firstly, the darkweb existed pre TOR. and yes the darkweb was a government creation and they used it to send data across the world to their secret agents and military. later TOR arrived as the public access.

again government inventions are used by government before public release.

I'm saying that the government simply realized that the USD could/would collapse on itself after a while(as shown by the recession in 2008 in America and more), and that the government used the codename, Satoshi Nakamoto(which is a very common name in Japan, similar to Europe's "John Smith"), to put Bitcoin out to the world.

pure theory no fact. FUD FUD FUD

It does make sense, considering according to a article I read a while back, only 300 people in the world could of created Bitcoin back in 2009. The NSA has the worlds smartest minds working for it, and with extensive reach. I find it very plausible that Satoshi Nakamoto is simply a codename for the Bitcoin project made by the government/branch of government. It's also very likely that Satoshi was more than one person, given his extensive use of the word "our". It also explains why Satoshi made it a top priority to Hide his tracks, so he wouldn't be found.

actually smart people are not automatically employed into NSA, the truth is smart people can earn alot more privately then they can on a government salary. to add to this NSA are not that smart, the fact is in the Ross ulbrich case, NSA needed to send a drive image(ISO) to the UK's GCHQ so that the british secret service could bruteforce the password.

It's either the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto worked for a branch of the government and made Bitcoin and released it to the world, or the person/people behind Satoshi Nakamoto is one hell of a genius who has extreme expertise in cryptography, which would make you question where he got his knowledge from(government, university?)

lastly you conspiracy theorists are obsessed with trying to link bitcoin to NSA... so let me burst the big bubble for you and then let you atleast theorize some FUD that may actually hold 1% weight.

if you researched 'satoshi' you would see that he has a british grammar and word pattern. so atleast theorize your fud to be more about UK's GCHQ.. not NSA .

but your theory really failed when you think that smart people want and decide to work for NSA. really laughable thought process you lot have, especially with a largely evident lack of research to atleast try joining some straw to some actual evidence.

and satoshi was not the only person that helped make bitcoin. before the white paper. satoshi, hal finney, nick szabo, and another guy (with the last name that is something like wui(sorry i forgot his full name)) these were the 4 people who had code that built up bitcoin. but it was only satoshi that brought it all together into a white paper and started making version 0.1. but then hal finney popped back on the scene and satoshi, hal finney and a small group of people helped develop the first few versions, then gavin andressen joined in. jeff garzik, etc all joined in and helped out and then took over the reigns.. and today there are upto 100 different people working on the bitcoin code.

so dont presume satoshi done it all alone, he was just the smart one to pick a bit of code here, grab a theory there, tweak another idea over there, then bring it all together into the white paper.

TRY TO DO SOME RESEARCH NEXT TIME!!