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I just saw the new legendary rank on dooglus. Is this the new 960 activity rank theymos was talking about? I assume so. How many years/months would that take to achieve?

Legendary ... wait for it.

Since you can get at most 14 activity every 2 weeks, it will take approximately 960 days (2 years 8 months) to get 960 activity. :)

Hey your a legend too, how does it feel  ;)
2 YEARS? Thats 2 more years for me to get legendary. Thats crazy...

We will be condemned.  Watch your back for stones hurled your way.

WTF Legendery rank!! you're badass
Wait for me too, I'll be Legendery too in 3 years  :P

IF you are active in all 14 days periods, otherwise will take longer, so it a well deserved tittle.

We might see more changes incoming:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.msg8289367#msg8289367


Waiting to know about the new membership privileges.

 ;D

Yea, I could safely assume I will be using this forum for at least 1 year. I have found some GREAT deals, nice people, and signature campaigns are nice. I love bitcoin :)

I'm having some cognitive dissonance about how surprisingly happy I am about this, and also about how much more important I feel now than I did about 10 minutes ago.

Well it's lunchtime where I am now and I have just noticed this - so I guess I have become "a legend in my own lunchtime".  ;D

So many legends on this thread. You guys are gonna make a killing off of sig campaigns (well, maybe only a bit more than heroes). You must feel so powerful now, you have half a yellow coin!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK1Vq6q2t8k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK1Vq6q2t8k)

Not so sure about that.  If there's no benefit to being legendary other than a half yellow coin (which kinda looks like a missing half in my browser for some reason) then I doubt advertizers are going to pay more.

It looks i got to work 2 years to reach that rank   ;D

What did I just watch...

You also look very powerful and scary to newbies  ;D

That's how we privileged ones talk  ;D

Is your language not understood by us peasants?

Oh dam this will take me a looong ass time to reach it, only at 588 activity as of this post. Been here since 2011 too.

There needs to be a rank in between Hero and Legendary  ;D

I feel so left out :(

It only feels like yesterday I got to hero so another rank to get anyways your pretty close Gweedo only 4 months
But I like the gold coin they added.

From 0
960/365 = 2.63 Years

It will be an achievement unlocked once you get there lol.

Also you might get the coin early or need to wait the full 960 + 70 since it has a random function ^_^.

Any other privileges given to the legendary members(signature, waiting time, PMs, trust, anything?)

So just the shiny coin and name

When Satoshi finally logs in here, all forum funds will be distributed to legendary members according to their activity.

We are on the same track :)

As theymos said here:


It's not a fixed 920 activity, it might be quite easy to reach for some, harder to reach for others.

I am close yet so far! It is like teasing, I hate it.

Does anybody know the reason why it isn't fixed? Is he applying according to their posts?

Kindly,
       MZ

That's going to take too long for me  :-[

Wouldn't be very legendary if it were easy.

2.6 Years is a lot of time, Veterans deserves to have such titles I guess..

I guess it's a sense of achievement I suppose....your lucky.

Yes, you are right.
@ BadBear : Congrats for becoming a Legendary Administrator. Hoping many more helpful posts from you. :)

Anybody have the answer?


Kindly,
       MZ

You mean the activity necessary for being a Legendary? Don't know. I guess it is only for the lulz, because you gain no more privileges in the forum, so no one will be hurt if takes some more or less time to reach the Legendary rank

EDIT: and he doens't apply manually, Theymos said it is random, independent of any factor like posts, bribes, flatter to the mods, donations, etc...

Hi
May be there has to be a rank between legendary and hero.
We can make a poll for that. It might be called obese member :)

Worst idea I've ever read.

You should read some more of gondels posts then  ;D. Maybe some more ranks could be added in between, but I dont think they're urgently needed.

It looks like he is eating a lot in Poland. :)

Isn't gondel from Bulgaria? I don't see how 'Obese' member fits here either  ;D.

I see what you did there :D.

Hey i am just kidding. :d

Sorry didnt understand that one...
I have nothing related to Poland or aomething like that.

Sorry I thought you are from Poland, like roslinpl. You have very similar type of messages. :)

I need 2.5 years for becoming a legend. :(

Wait for me it a matter of time,i will also be a legend someday

Yeah http://kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dance.gif

Hrm, apparently I am legendary too.

Maybe there could be an option to voluntarily elect "infamous" instead?

Ooops... Looks like, by the time I become a Hero Member, there will be ranks like Full Legendary, Sr. Legendary, Hero Legendary... or we'll be shifting to the new forum by then :)

This^
I just noticed the new rank. wipes single tear from eye

it will take a long long long time
for you to get a legendary :D

I think Legendary rank should only be given to Satoshi, and maybe a few of the old devs. If ANYONE can get that rank, then it detracts away from its epicness. Maybe a more fitting term for ~1k activity would be Noble or Templar.

Siting on my ass in front of a monitor has made me a legend!  8)  Wait, ...what?  ???

I guess we all have to wait.

Here is where legendary rank originated...


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237597.540


It is also random (in activity level), when you reach that title.  

lol oh yeaaaah! Loving the new title!

What are the requirements for being LEGENDARY? lol

 ;D ;D ;D

Theymos said that its random for each user, but its between around 700 to 1000.

Can't wait to reach it. But next up is hero ;)

Only 1 year to go though!!!

i used to mine LGD coin - its on cryptsy :)

Satoshi already know as Funder, with silver coins.  And we have badges for things earned by merit, not by house time, so I see no problem with the new ranking.

one day when there are too many legendary tags around..  "more legendary" will be created for the real old school folks

It is still very hard to achive. 3 years of constant activity. So I doubt there will be "too" many ;)

You're close. The first step is when 2010-11 members are encroched upon by the great unwashed the activity level for legend will need to be changed to possibly 2000. Then when it happens again the highest level name will become something else like "BitGod" or some other horseshit. All of this will be meaningless when the new forum software is implemented and half of the members and posts are lost during the migration. lol

Its funny I have a legendary llink on my forum, I wonder if they stole this idea from me, guess I will have to now change it to God Status.

I wonder how much they will get in signature campaign?

Same as Hero, since they offer nothing more in regards to the signature.
Even Hero has "only" background which Senior has not, which does not make a difference for most signatures anyway.

really.. new forum software?  is that part of the mtgox re-launch plan?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523070.0

More precisely, the activity required is set randomly between 775 to 1030.
So if you are lucky and have a requirement of 775, you could get the title 8.5 months earlier than having bad luck and a requirement of 1030. :)

this rank is so fuckin hot, shame im only closeto Hero not to that ;xxxxxx

There are already special badges for Satoshi and Bitcoin Experts.

Cool, It is something special as there are very few Legendaries here  :P

I agree that "Legendary" sounds a bit elitist. Perhaps, ironically, "Elite Member" would be less elitist, and hence a better choice.

@signature, I bet they will earn a bit extra ;)

It looks quite good. Sadly it would take me some time until I reach that much activity.

Do you have any benefits with new rank?

Yeah, new word and a yellow "coin"

whats so good about legendary other than the title?

actually nothing
just being a legend in this forum

no DannyElfman thought of it...the discussion is in the Activity and Membergroups thread...

I personally don't like it because 8.5 months is a huge difference, for only one rank.

Umm... is it just me or does the 5th "shiny coin" (that's what it's supposed to be, right?) actually look more like a half coin?

When I first saw the new rank, I thought it was below 'Hero' because of that.

Maybe another color than yellow? Green perhaps? It is hard to see.

What is wrong with using "LEGENDARY MEMBER"?

Is there anything after Legendary? Like "Epic"? Actually that should be between Hero and Legendary.

Not yet.

Maybe some years from now, when there will be enough users near 2k posts. For some reasons the next ranking requires more or less 2x more activity than the previous ones, and I doubt it will change in the future.

All rankings are pretty much double the previous one
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0

The one after legendary if there is one would just have a larger variance range around
1550 to 2060 Activity if it keeps that pattern in the future.

(just a bit more and a hero rank could fit in that variance range ^_^)

Ok so there is another shiny 1/2 coin next to your name.  Can anyone explain how this is so important?  If you ask me the time to make this Exciting new 1/2 coin status could have been spent on something worth wild here. Why is this so Exciting?  Is this some kind of Macho status here? When does the Penis size comparison come into play?

I just don't get what is so Exciting about this new status.

How about the site owner focus on more Important things rather than a shiny coin on your profile? What a waste of time.
Just saying

I think the gap is too big between senior, hero, and legendary. 6 months at least. I think there should be some more ranks to diversify things a bit.

why?

Ranks have a certain consistent scheme.

15 --> 30 --> 60 --> 120 --> 240 --> 480 --> ~960

It is no accident, that they made it the way it is now!

Basically the forum is turning posting into a CSS frag match.

Godlike, anyone?

Lol...I did it on call in the hospital, apparently. Cool idea...it'll help know everyone know who has been around for a while.

Too bad I don't get a half green and half yellow final coin :-)

"Legendary" sounds nice, just rolls off the tongue, but I haven't even made "hero" rank yet.  :D

6 months and 21 days for me to get into the range of Legendary. 1 year and 4 months for guaranteed.

Currently at 588. Countdown starting...

This means that in 2017 people who have registered on here just today have a potential of being "Legendary"? I'm not really a fan of emotes, but I gotta use this one...  ::)

I'm probably a good example of someone that shouldn't be "Legendary" on here...

It doesn't make sense though, because that final jump is literally 14 months, well 9-16 months. And then during the additional 9-16 months, it will increase with inflation to keep the numbers down. In 14 months, if every other account on the forum was active, they'd all have become hero - that's how long that final jump is.

Not even considering that activity is still limited in that its a time based metric.

You still won't know everyone that's been around awhile. Take Holliday for example, he has been here since early 2011 and posts continuously. He just deletes a bunch of his posts every once in a while and loses rank. I've been alcoholocaust, shadow, boscoj, jenny hill, CornedBeefHash and now QuestionAuthority but I've been here since the beginning of 2011.

That's what I'm saying. It only takes about 2 years and 4 months for a brand new account to possibly become "Legendary". Now if you think of the meaning of the word, someone can become a legend after ~2 years? Really??

Legendary, and another level.
it's all about time and activity, many posts have no effect.
CMIIW

Exactly. It will help everyone know who has been here for a while. It will not help anyone know everyone who has been here for a while.

I wonder if any of the current newbies will reach this level before we all lose interest in bitcoin. I certainly hope so, I'd love to have some BTC charts to watch 2 years from now :P

You could just do forum rank according to standard deviations and set legendary rank for accounts with activity above 3 standard deviations.  This would ensure that the highest rank is always highly exclusive.  

Bell curve distribution with no skew has its merits, too.

that is... beautiful...

3 SD above: legendary
2 SD above: hero
1 SD above: senior
average: member
1 SD below: candidate
2 SD below: junior
3 SD below: newbie

I think you'll find that the mean is much lower than you think due to the vast number of new accounts. Anything below the mean would likely be Newbie.

Too bad indeed! I like both.

Also, lol @ "Legendary member". That would remind me of something else. :D

And "Hero member" doesn't? ;)

Not sure about that. Not anymore, at least. Looks to me like user registration numbers go through "growth spurts", similar to (and probably highly related with) price. Other than during those growth spurts, registrations seem to stagnate. Lately, I'm under the impression that except for a few newbie troll accounts, I'm only having conversations with seniors and above. Then again, I can only speak for the speculation sub, and I don't have any hard numbers on this, only a feeling. The solution is to look at a site-wide average of activity over time, no? If it keeps falling, you're right.

According to the stats page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats), there are 350419 members and 8293716 posts, meaning an average post count of 24. Since activity is always lower than post count, that means the mean user is a Newbie-level.

Jup, that answers the question. Didn't know we had site stats like that.

There are many reasonable ways you can account for the skewed numerical distribution. 

Do it and see the number of automated registration skyrocket only to lower the requisites to reach member status.


Add other requisites(minimum post or activity to count into the statistics, etc), and you will see bot accounts all around trying o manipulate the system.

It is a nice idea, but I dobt it would work, and I'm sure it would be a pain for the mods.

Also there are 350000 members total and only 217 legendary. ´3 SD will be wayyyy more ;)

Edit: Well, I was wrong, 3 SD would only be 455 legendaries.

The standard deviation idea is incomplete in and of itself, but there are a variety of fairly simple ways that you can mitigate this issue.  For example, a very simple idea would be to set an invariable range for newbie status with an activity threshold set high enough to effectively rule out all irrelevant accounts from the data.  In other words, newbies wouldn't even factor into the mean.  I'd expect a fairly normal distribution to emerge if you were to exclude all accounts with an activity level below, say 50-100.

Is it possible to download a list of accounts and activity levels in order to play with these stats? 

I also think it'd be kinda cool to do some kind of rank statistic which deals with the fact that we don't want to have to add a new level every 2 years.

Then people will start to mass farm accounts only to drive the requeriments for higher ranks lower. You supposing people will be honest and don't try to manipulate the system, what might not be true

If we have access to the numbers then we could discuss more specifically what such a scheme would look like.  I don't think we have to assume that people are honest (we should probably assume the opposite) that doesn't mean we can't consider other types of systems.  If, for example, we made a statistical system which took skewness into account then we could probably counteract any mass-account-farming action meant to tip the distribution.  I'm just saying that the idea needs more details filled in, without the details it's hard to argue the merits.

Not sure where you get the idea from that this will be so easy. I've seen a few accounts that very obviously are linked to a posting bot. Those posts seem to be reported (and deleted) rather quickly usually.

And if the automated approach should work, then what prevents them from using it to "farm" for high rank accounts directly (in a fixed requirement rank system).

All that said, the deviation defined rank idea looks very nice to me and has a certain nerdy appeal, but in reality, it's not really worth the effort probably. Introducing a new rank each 2 years with about twice the activity requirement is a hack, but an acceptable one imo.

The current activity required for "level up" are 30, 60, 120, 240, 480, ~900 (middle of 775 and 1030).
So, maybe we will need a new rank 2 years later but then it will be 5 years and 10 years, as the activity required for the new level will be doubled every time. :P

Another way of putting it is that Bitcoin will halve a few times before the next doubling in the not to long future
Kind of a reverse way of looking at bitcoin as the coin circulation halves
The activity to the next rank on the forum doubles.

But with the variance stuff, the requeriments for ranks will change every time, so many will be in one position, and next hour in another, then back the the starting one, and so for.

Will generate lots of complains and will be a pain to signature campaigns.

Legendary member rank is a good idea.  I think I like it.  ALthough I have a long way to go to make it  ::)

What's going to be the next next rank after Legendary? Godlike?

Vodlike.

Thanks for the link to the stats page,  I've been looking for that!

Eww, that's not a good rank.

I wish I kept posting :P

I think that vodlike is actually a good idea. Vod (you) do a very good job of monitoring the forum looking for probably scams and more or less stopping them in their tracks.

Welp. I need to start posting more.

With over 6000 posts I think your posting more than enough. The rank is about time not posts.

As said above it has to do with amount of time the account has been active.

just posting crap isnt the idea :P

All right, who's got the highest activity level? theymos at 1666?

Right.

Hmm, that's going to be hard to beat. Can I interest you in a long vacation from BCT?

Godlike after Legendary maybe ?
or GodForum ?

Dayum, nearly 3 years for that rank :P

If you've been on this forum for 3 years you know your rich, you probably bought some 3 years ago...

Ill be there one day :)

It was about time. Too many people were in the Hero rank already. Unfortunately, that didn't include me  :P