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I see a lot of talk going around on here, and I want to really know the truth.

Did the CIA/FBI/NSA get their beginning by riding the coattails of the Bitcoin protocol? This is potentially groundbreaking.


Edit: This is satire... OR IS IT!

one more topic about that ...  :D

I think Satoshi has been around for a long time, he singlehandedly created bitcoin, so therefore bitcoin was mostlikely creating other acronym organizations.... FBI...NSA....CSI Miama....even potentially ABC news..

whats with the FUD today?? ::)

just rumor! I wouldn't believe. It is against the interests of existing banking system.

Oh dude, hold on, what about WTO, ECB, WTC, WWE, WHO, WWW, NEC? It's all coming together now! WTF? BTFD!

agreed that it goes against the FED and the way the govnt operates. There is no way the CIA or NSA invented Bitcoin. It was invented by a small group of people. Satoshi Nakamoto and friends.

Do you believe....?
Yes, the reptilians have secretly been running a blockchain for over 128 years and they funded the birth of the NSA and OSS (early CIA), for further details please listen to David Icke and his big mouth friend Alex Jones.
The truth is out there...  ...way out there.  :D

All of these threads should be merged into one, so that there aren't so many repeats of exactly the same thing...

the fud is that although NSA created cryptography and MIT amongst millions of other people for their own separate reasons have been trying to make electronic money for decades. these fud makers are trying to say that because bitcoin uses encryption and parts of idea's of other people that satoshi is these other people.

this is like saying that the caveman is the inventor of the car. simply because cave men invented the wheel and were first to burn oil..

now the fud making sock puppets are trying to atribute a 1996 document as being their claim that bitcoin was nsa invention. yet no where in that document does it mention the part that separates for instance egold from bitcoin.
read 5.1 double spend security (or any of the paper for that matter) DOES NOT mention the whole peer-to-peer decentralization of the ledger as the double spend solution. neither does it mention mining/block creation. the MIT/NSA paper simply mentions a SQL centralized database.

the decentralized blockchain is the fundamental part that separates bitcoin from any other e-currency ever invented or theorized. and as such you might as well be shouting that e-gold was an NSA invention.

its public knowledge that 'satoshi' grabbed idea's and collaborated with other people, such as collaborated with hal finney, gavin andressen etc. and they grabbed idea's and concepts from nick szabo, and others, maybe even grabbed idea's from the 1996 nsa invention. but it was 'satoshi' that used all of these idea's and the idea of bittorrent and put it all nicely together into a seamless and effective secure transaction ledger white paper.

its in the sourcecode and white paper that satoshi references MIT and nick szabo for different elements of cryptography, etc. but none of these other people can claim to have brought the bittorrent concept or the making blocks concept together with the cryptography concepts.

Funny you mention that... Art Bell back in 2000 did mention reptilians and the possibility of bitcoin creating organizations like OSS. He theorized that bitocin might be an alternate blockchain and that the first blockchain was stored on a "mega-abacus" per se....

hmmmm... a lot of smaller lizards stack on top of eachother to form ALEX JONES! it all makes sense now!

Even if everybody believed that but had no proof to offer you that it was true, would it change your view on BTC?  I think that fact the Bitcoin is decentralized is the tell tail sign that none of these organizations played a role in the start of Bitcoin.

It seems that people really like this conspiracy theories and fantastic stories.
But, let's go back to the facts.
what will be real interest for any of this organization to start alternative currency to US dollars?
Maybe they want to ruin their own currency?
Or they don't trust their own banks?
or some other hidden agenda?
Can anybody really believe in this nonsense?

I dont know, I mean they are behind every conspiracy theory, so it's hard to rule out the possibility.

What is the point of creating bitcoin? Like this would make banks to bankrupt. I don't know but maybe It is not very logical to be true at least from the first look maybe there is something else deeper...

Ah HA! Here is an interesting twist though... Get ready... What if certain elements of the political sphere wanted to end the Federal Reserve? We already have libertarians and conservatives who have wanted to end the Fed for awhile now.... If bitcoin was created to replace USD then it would also end the Fed right??? But here is the flaw... The Fed can still function USING BTC!

Interesting now right? Think of this....When most people buy and trade on gold and silver, they aren't actually getting physical items sent to them, they are given a note that says you own this much of a stake and it is stored in Fort Knox. But no one is allowed to go there and claim it or ask for it...fractional reserve just like in a normal bank... there are ETFs and bitcoin banks that can spring up and do the same thing. so in the end are we better off???

you decide!

Yes as you see more pieces of the puzzle, then everything starts to come together.  ;D

Satoshi was either a time traveler or an alien. Take your pick.

Satoshi was/is an alien and when he returns you can purchase a ride on his spaceship for 14 BTC.

dumb concept.. i don't believe anything of the sort and i am a big conspiracy theorist type of guy LOL

I don't know the answer, because there are reason that's true & reason that's wrong

Reason that's wrong :
1. Because BTC, scam / money laundry increase. and CIA/FBI/NSA have more work to do
2. Some people don't invest in USD anymore, they would pick BTC (for county that not use USD)

Reason that's true :
1. CIA/FBI/NSA will get free BIG hash power to decrypt something that protected with SHA-256

But looks like it's wrong CIA/FBI/NSA behind bitcoin creation


Why not both  ;D


Some people have some crazy opinion  ;D

It would be against their interest to create a decentralised currency, agencies like the CIA/FBI etc aren't likely to give away control of the global finance system.

Ok WOW,,, this just got to- BEYOND> Ridiculous.... This is what, 8th, 9th or 10th topic with in 7 days talking about the same old shit??

 .. Mods?? Where are you? This is getting annoying now.

Please delete.... we only need 1 thread about this >>> BS<<<

There is also very compelling evidence that Satoshi was murdered  ::)

The reading comprehension here is just amazing.

I do. 8) 8)

Well, we can't be sure about that.
But why would  they make bitcoin?
Bitcoin is against the government influence in the economy.

Satire or not, I am so sick or these garbage threads. Moderators should start deleting them since they have no value whatsoever.

Every time something gets popular and people like it there will be somebody to say that it is some kind of conspiracy, that is how it works and how it has worked.

idea1
A honeypot to test security capabilities of other nations. And what more cunning way than to have to expend zero$ on bating the trap. So maybe it's to force a hand show (of exotic systems) in the global geopolitical poker game.

Highly unlikely but might make a mediocre/poor novel.

idea2
Slightly more likely:

Maybe to beta-test a new cash system. In the future (when the beta test/development was complete) It would be easy for the government to hijack miners, gov has very deep pockets, it would only take the majority of miners to be overwhelmed by greed and all start mining .gov coin for the coin and the nice% fiat bonus on top.

And of course big investors would convert their BTC into GOV, BTC might become the new DOGE, such wow!

The existing fiat petrodollar IS coming to an end, eventually the game WILL be reset to some asset backed system (ala Bretton Woods) and played all over again, would be sweet for .gov (banks) to not have to dip into their gold if they can just grow a free POW network and then use that.

I admit, it's a crazy speculation, but the chances of it being so are >0.


Control can always be re-established with deep pockets, you really think miners are not corruptable? Their all on GHash.io because they're spooked by variance, what do you think they would do if their mining rewards were increased with fiat subsidy on top?

No value? Your post just earned you some coin from primedice, ka...ching!

I think this true why Not ...Better Control can nur have of you when FBI want

no, i do not believe that

I don't believe that too.Still there is no true evidence that they are all behind the scenes created by bitcoin.

the internet was created by the government you better unplug...
why does it matter who created bitcoin.
the source code is public for all to see, that's all that matters.

https://warosu.org/data/tg/img/0293/40/1389111215616.gif

Your on crack, OP!

This specific thread really does not have any meaningful discussion about the possibility of the US government creating BTC. It is more or less full of spam. With that being said this is a discussion that can be had with the community that could potentially discredit (most likely) or prove this conspiracy theory.

lol honestly ur probably only one of the few to actually read what i say.

its funny how emotion can get to the peopl eon h ere and cause them to not correctly read what i say.

i did edit it awhile back to say it was satire... OR IS IT! lol

but honestly people need to dig in and find things out wherever possible, i have no issue with that. just needs to be more rational.

Says who? you ::)

I made a post that might start discussion on the subject...

It's difficult to start discussion when the thread only contains comedians and policemen.

Meanwhile... some kid who lives in Washington and wears a tinfoil hat is like...  http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/320/900/b22.png

Something like OP's scenario would have been leaked already, were it true. I honestly think people are way to willing to give these organizations more credit than they deserve. CIA ain't smart enough, sneaky enough yes, amoral enough, check! Smart? Not so much.

At any rate; "the truth will out"!

You don't need to be smart when you have deep pockets, you just pay a smart person to do it.

Gov employs some smart people, make no mistake.

The puppet show of talking heads (politicians) is not where the real work is happening.

They would have to be smart enough to conceive of it first. Also, they are all about total control. They can't control btc. Where are all the CIA whales?

As much as I'd love a good conspiracy here, this one is merely chemtrails (bogus)

Yes says me, lol. You are correct to say it is difficult to start a discussion when this thread only contains.....what the thread really contains is spam.

I do think the short answer to did the NSA create bitcoin is no because it would make their job all that much more difficult.

Any here we have it again repeat after repeat after fuckin repeat! tin hatted idiots all over the place ARGHHHHHHHH.... Pop-pop-BANG,,, You GOT HIM!, there's another one Timmy... where WHERE.. pop-POP got him!

Blehhhh .. make me sick!!!.. There should be a forum which is OUTSIDE of this forum talking about this and only this if you love repeating the same shit so much ---in 1 month, more than 20 of the same topics started by tin hatters, or conspiracy theorists Now you see why this is fucking getting annoying!!!

Maybe some of those government agencies just needed a secure and hidden way to transfer large amount of money to their "nonexisting" projects.

Why people think govt/fbi/cia is after btc? I see no good reason yet.

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/subject-and-object/

Seriously.

The "nonexistent" projects that are kept secret from the general public are known to the bosses at the intelligence agencies and are known to members of congress. The same goes for both the general budget of the intelligence agencies as well as the budgets of the various projects. Bitcoin would not be necessary to pay for these kinds of projects, they would just use the budget that congress appropriates to them.

Honestly, this was more an exercise in thought.

As proven by many of the people posting here, reading comprehension is going down fast. It may well be under 9,000 at this point....

I laughed when I saw someone resurrected this thread because no one reads the original post, and mostly everyone is not reading the title.

I AM SAYING BITCOIN CREATED THE NSA/CIA/FBI!!!!!!!!!!!!

BITCOIN!!!!!!!


sincerely, get some brainz.

Haha, here's what readers can assume:

[1]
Thread title was written by user for whom English is a second language. This happens quite a lot on this forum, it being international in scope.

[2]
Somehow a temporal paradox may have occured allowing Bitcoin to have influenced events many decades before Bitcoin ever existed.

I'd have to say yes, but it could still be one of the more overall positive things they've done. A one-world currency isn't such a bad thing IMO, but it's why they plan on doing with it when it's fully a one-world currency that's the gotcha.

Using bitcoin would only help hide these kinds of payments from the general public, which they are already hidden from. Bitcoin would really serve no use here. Like it has been mentioned previously bitcoin only makes the job of the CIA and the NSA much more difficult.

Since it is satire
Not only did they hire the NSA to make bitcoin long ago they told Dorian Nakamoto to take the fall for it and paid off newsweek when someone was getting close to finding out the truth as a false flag XD.