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Title: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: cryptopaths on August 12, 2014, 09:50:30 PM
A lot has been going on in the altcoin community from scams to conspiracies and coin saturation. Recently a member on this forum made an attempt to become the only mod of the altcoin forum, having a mod here would result in some coins getting the upperhand an unfiar bias and judgment. I think having an altcoin Council is a far better idea and will be more beneficial to the altcoin community.

The Cryptocurrency market currently has a marketcap of about $7.9 billion and $7.47 billion of that market cap belongs to Bitcoin. That leaves just about $400 million marketcap between all the other currencies if you factor in the fact that litecoin is almost half of that $400 million, you leave a valuation of only $200 for 500 listed coins and thousands of unlisted.

The only reason Bitcoin is more valuable then other altcoins is first mover advantage. It's the truth if you compare bitcoin to a lot of alt coins on the technical side Bitcoin is lacking heavily. If the Protocol was updated to do something more like a lot of altcoins do I feel this is what would truly make the Bitcoin price sky rocket. For example Namecoin had a huge innovation on its hands with its integrated domain system that could lead to the web becoming decentralized. Imagine if bitcoin integrated something like that we wouldn't just see money 2.0 but we would see the internet 2.0 with the internet truly becoming decentralized and we would see massive growth in market cap. However it seems many people in the Bitcoin community look down on any new innovation and don't want to see the protocol progress.

Because of this stiffeling of innovative prevalent in the Bitcoin community along with its market cap already at about $8billion it is hard to see gains of %10000+ that used to be prevalent. That us were alt coins come in, a lot of altcoins give newcomers a chance to make a lot of money in this emerging market similar to the early adopters of Bitcoin.

The Altcoin Council will promote the altcoin scene and show the world that Bitcoin isn't the only cryptocurrency. We will fund add campaigns, insight new innovation and grow the community along with many more things that will take alt coins far.

So vote on who you think should be on this council, I will add some names to the list and I will take your suggestions for anyone else I should add to the list. Everyone has the ability to change their vote so if you see a new person added that you think should be on the council you can change your vote to vote for them.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: cryptopaths on August 12, 2014, 10:06:53 PM
What are your thoughts on the Altcoin council?


Title: This douche thinks he is the Crypto-Sherrif LOL
Post by: Spoetnik on August 12, 2014, 10:09:06 PM
Read this !

@ Theymos - Proposed Alt Currency Suggestion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729053.msg8260421#msg8260421)

that is THIS guy trying to seize power !
and he defends scam coins and lies and trolls n shit..

i said a while back in response to his topic "who is the biggest retard" he made just to troll me with..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729053.msg8260421#msg8260421

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he demands he was DDOS'd before but won't admit it now ?? hmmm think about it Wink

iGotSpots.. well BCX got one i was such jealous Sad
but make a Miley Cyrus coin so i can try and contact her staff or whatever and get word to her to get in on it LOL
i have talked with a bunch of celebs before ..i can hunt them down Smiley

and now i have this clown cryptopaths sending me threats via PM  hahahahha

and he only did that after i posted on a topic in another section where he was trying to convince mods here
he is the CryptoKinght and the protector of Altcoins and he has exposed countless fraud coins
and that his detective work at exposing scammers was legendary and that we all call him this super hero moniker
and.. that he started a CryptoPolice unit of sorts.. so they should make him a moderator LOL
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729834.msg8258514#msg8258514

so i reminded mods of his insane claims before about hacking ddos attempts and extortion claims he had made on some us bitching about clone coins
WHILE HE WAS DEFENDING THEM
and even worse his behavior when he was defending scam coins consisted of non stop name calling..
then he has a long list of lunatic topics and polls he made like whether i am a retard.. it just goes on and on..  he's a mouthy lunatic :/

i had noticed he was building up to something by trying to establish some good guy reputation around here by sneaking around
kissing butt in various other forum sections then sure enough he launched his Crypto Police crap and was propositioning mods.. for power !
funny part is he has on record some of the most insulting comments DEFENDING them of all people here and they are all on record for all to see.

so cryptopaths sent me this..
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Your going down a dangerous path kid are you sure this is what you want?

anyways lol
hey buddy i am ALREADY the Crypto-Cop i was awarded this title last year Wink
Sometimes i have been called the Cryptsy-Cop etc
Your too late and your NOT getting my badge either !

This guy is a weird lunatic and a lying fraud trying to hijack this forum and parade around like he is working to defend crypto.
when in reality all he is defending is his right for people to post scam coins !
And he will lie and troll his ass off to do it too !
The proof to what i just said is right on here (one of many)  Operation Shitcoin Cleanout and Clean Up Has Begun- Join the Revolution- Updated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522235.0)

His goal is to get rid of me and other anti-scam coin guys and seize power and *try and build sum credibility here to DEFEND scam/clone coins !
I have not seen a single guy on this forum who had flipped out and raged and went insane as this guy cryptopaths has on just that on topic alone (last link i posted)
He had went berserk at the mere CONCEPT and discussion of stopping Scam Coins on that topic that he lost control.
and had went on to spam that topic with endless childish insults and then he escalated it to making up lies that we were ddosing him and trying to extort him. (no one did)
ALL to support the right to make and post scam coins here !

he waited a while.. and trolled on some of his other accounts for a bit and now he posts this crap LOL

and i am going to dig around and bump a couple of his topics so you can see just how god damn insane this guy is
AND how utterly deceitful and manipulative he with his scam coin defending and his repeated attempts at seizing power here.

Think about it... Why would a guy be the most intense maniac to defend scam coins here AND want to seize power and control of the forum so he is charge ?
(as a part of a council or by being a moderator of this forum section)
is it anymore obvious then that ?


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: Lauda on August 12, 2014, 10:10:03 PM
C++ representative
Java representative
Javascript representative
Ethereum representative
Anonymity representative
National coin representative
Satire representative (to represent stuff like Doge), et cetera.
Yes indeed something like this would be better. Ethereum? No.
I'd personally nominate Spoetnik as well, he's active, everywhere and expressing his opinions (fight shitcoins as well).

OP did you really just nominate yourself?  ::) (took me time to realize who made the thread)


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: albert_mt on August 12, 2014, 10:17:14 PM
$200m for 500 listed coins is a shocking number. I thought the altcoin market is bigger than that. So many coins and so little market share means the trade is very risky.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: cryptopaths on August 12, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
$200m for 500 listed coins is a shocking number. I thought the altcoin market is bigger than that. So many coins and so little market share means the trade is very risky.

It's not just 500 coins it's way more. 500 listed coins and thousands of unlisted coins fall under that $200 million market cap.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: Nxtblg on August 12, 2014, 10:26:40 PM
How could I not vote for Spoetnik? ;)


Title: cryptopaths is a coin cloner !
Post by: Spoetnik on August 12, 2014, 10:30:03 PM
How could I not vote for Spoetnik? ;)

LOL thanks ;)

i bumped a couple topics of his people may want to check too (i tried to not go overboard so it ended up like spamming though)

one of the more interesting topics is someone came forward i just noticed now that he makes coins ! LOL (was NOT me i have 1 account here)
it all makes perfect sense now LOLOL

a mass coin cloner wants to take power and start a council and become altcoin forum mod AHHAHAHHAH

hey at least i haven't made any coins ;)


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: TaunSew on August 12, 2014, 10:38:22 PM
$200m for 500 listed coins is a shocking number. I thought the altcoin market is bigger than that. So many coins and so little market share means the trade is very risky.

There were alternates which were released back in 2010 / 2011 and most of them have since died out, IIRC.

1/500 is bad odds and technically worse than the lottery, the lottery has lesser prizes (like $10 with a 1/50 chance) that you can win.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: SunBin on August 12, 2014, 10:47:42 PM
Bitcoin foundation is full of drama and questionable person running the organization. Having a council will just distract technology innovation and introduce more risk.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: GreenBacksTeam on August 12, 2014, 11:02:54 PM
Bitcoin foundation is full of drama and questionable person running the organization. Having a council will just distract technology innovation and introduce more risk.

I was just about to comment on this as well. I'm not sure if an altcoin council would turn out good or bad, but just seeing the drama that unfolded in the Bitcoin Foundation, I'm not sure if a council is what is needed.

Personally we believe that altcoins are just in a bad phase right now, but that it is ending soon. Only true alternative currencies will rise out of this phase, and from there cryptos will be better than ever.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: nutildah on August 13, 2014, 12:02:03 AM
Glad I voted correctly (eduffield), but he is way too busy, smart and talented to waste his time battling bullshitters.

I'm going to keep at it out of my own accord. Y'all should too. And not ask for some special title.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: Lauda on August 13, 2014, 12:43:53 AM
Glad I voted correctly (eduffield), but he is way too busy, smart and talented to waste his time battling bullshitters.

I'm going to keep at it out of my own accord. Y'all should too. And not ask for some special title.
Indeed. He is most likely not even interested. He has smarter thing to do coding DRK and preparing RC4 (almost there).


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: dewdeded on August 13, 2014, 01:30:20 AM
Add me to this council. I am a great poster and big, well known altcoin guru here in Germany.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: cryptopaths on August 13, 2014, 01:33:45 AM
Add me to this council. I am a great poster and big, well known altcoin guru here in Germany.

I have added you to the poll.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: Justine on August 13, 2014, 01:37:09 AM
Voted BitcoinExpress. Keep seeing his name on some of the threads/posts I read.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: sillybear on August 13, 2014, 01:40:01 AM
Good luck on bringing regulation/centralization to the unregulated/decentralized cryptoland


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: coinsolidation on August 13, 2014, 02:21:08 AM
it is hard to see gains of %10000+ that used to be prevalent. That us were alt coins come in

I could write one thousand responses to this idea based on that line, not one of them would be positive.


Title: no thx
Post by: Spoetnik on August 13, 2014, 04:59:43 AM
Bitcoin foundation is full of drama and questionable person running the organization. Having a council will just distract technology innovation and introduce more risk.

I was just about to comment on this as well. I'm not sure if an altcoin council would turn out good or bad, but just seeing the drama that unfolded in the Bitcoin Foundation, I'm not sure if a council is what is needed.

Personally we believe that altcoins are just in a bad phase right now, but that it is ending soon. Only true alternative currencies will rise out of this phase, and from there cryptos will be better than ever.

agreed !

it all should be left free and open for whom ever to do what they want with out interference.
as in i see the Altcoin scene as survival of the fittest and who ever that ends up being should have the people they need
because they won that would make them the right people.
i hope you guys see what i mean by that LOL

what we don't need is a dishonest LYING TROLL who makes CLONE COINS trying to proclaim he is the Crypto-Knight and that he should be a mod here !

what blows me away isn't that someone is saying this stuff it's the fact that a guy who has hung around here trolling and calling people names
and lying about anti-clone coin guys is asking to be in charge.. him of all people ? seriously ? WOW !

I KNEW damn well by his intense reaction before to the "Operation shit coin" topic way back that he was a mass coin cloner !
No other normal guy would react the way he did.. that was a smoking gun his is one of them !
And he was far too stupid to realize he gave himself away in the process lol

he must make a tidy little fortune cloning coins and making accounts and running around lying and scamming ..and trolling critics.
and he is going to far with his accusations he has never backed up (and there is LOTS)

Watch this guy people and you will see what i mean ..he's a snake slithering around in the shadows playing games.
and you could see when he was leading up to something .. after his bout of drama couple months back
he avoided using that 1 account of his in here and spent all his time kissing ass in the other forum sections
trying to make endless little anti-clone coin comments that oppose his pro clone comment in this section
and then he propositioned the guy who runs this site to be a mod claiming he is the right man for the job.
It was an orchestrated scheming little plan he tried to execute and he might have gotten away with it had i not exposed him.
He could be mod right now and pushing his own *protected scam coins on the side (while publicly being anti-clone) had we not looked at all this..

he tried to do a take over LOL
And this topic is yet another attempt of many..

For all i know the existing mods already make their owns coins and well whatever.. lol
we don't need to one confirmed doing this though..
one thing dumb about Cryptsy hiring guys who have coins out or other exchanges etc is not a good idea !
just saying there is plenty of conflict of interest as it is, we don't need more.

All i am trying to say is,
i would like to strive towards NEUTRAL ground for both sides.
Freedom for the people who need it to push innovation or a scam coin if they must.
and the freedom for guys to step up and try and catch the scammers and criticize coins etc.
hopefully a balance in the middle.

and how it works now is good enough for that ..a council is not going to improve over how it is already i think.
I have never been apart of any group and i doubt i would !
Most of us coin critics i think are just lone wolf guys..
And i just noticed i called myself a coin critic lol
well i guess all some guys do is kiss ass supporting scam coins..
amazing how few people saying anything critical about bad coins.. they just hide :/


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: cryptopaths on August 13, 2014, 05:23:43 AM
Spoetnik you're an idiot. I don't like shitcoins that's exactly why I as against the shitcoins you and your group were making, you know the scheme you and muddafudda were in on. You were destroying other peoples coins in attempt to benefit your own shitcoins. I am against your shitcoins but I did not in any way shape or form attempt to destroy your coin.

That is the difference between me and you I don't try to centralize something that should remain decentralized and free. I don't try to destroy something just because I don't like it. I leave the success of a coin up to the free market to decide while you and your rag tag group of scamming shitcoin developers try to destroy any coin in your way while trying to hide under the disguise of doing things for the good of crypto with your operation shitcoin cleanout.


Title: council?
Post by: Spoetnik on August 13, 2014, 08:59:29 AM
Spoetnik you're an idiot. I don't like shitcoins that's exactly why I as against the shitcoins you and your group were making, you know the scheme you and muddafudda were in on. You were destroying other peoples coins in attempt to benefit your own shitcoins. I am against your shitcoins but I did not in any way shape or form attempt to destroy your coin.

That is the difference between me and you I don't try to centralize something that should remain decentralized and free. I don't try to destroy something just because I don't like it. I leave the success of a coin up to the free market to decide while you and your rag tag group of scamming shitcoin developers try to destroy any coin in your way while trying to hide under the disguise of doing things for the good of crypto with your operation shitcoin cleanout.

wrong your trying to cover your tracks..
First off i am an Idiot ..i get it.. you have insulted me with name calling enough already i get it LOL

The problem is with the rest of what you just said is that you focused 90% of all your replies on that and similar topics (Operation Shit Coin Cleanup..)
On me and BCX ..NOT muddafudda !
And mudda was the only one of any of us bitching about clone coins and discussing publicly on that topic of ways to stop them (that HAD made a coin)
mudda was not even talking for 50 pages lol
it was all me and BCX and some other guys (who never made any coins)
And further more we are in no way any kind of group which is contrary to your numerous topics you made her to start groups LOL
You accused us of lying and your the only one caught lying about anything too.. seems any bad behavior your up to you project onto a few us.

BitcoinExpress mentioned taking coins down (way back) and from that point on you flipped out and went off..
You created a pile of topics that were "Anti-Shitcoin clean up" ..remember calling me and BCX fascist coin cloners numerous times ?
And proceeded to start making up bullshit about the guys who commented the most that were anti-crap coin.
Because you make them.. and you were scared the mighty BCX was going to screw over one of your coins so you were pissing your little pants LOL

in reality none of us did a damn thing aside from complain on that topic and discuss some ideas on how they can be combated.
But when all was said an done we didn't lift a finger.. and when i say "we" i mean all the guys on the anti-shit coin clean up topic (muddafudda made)

Muddafudda made some coins yeah and he kept saying over and over if any of them fall under the sword so be it !
and you took what he said as a ton of us have made coins and we are trying to attack the competitors basically.
which is bullshit.. i have never had anything to do with any coin and i don't think BitcoinExpress has either.

So why does it matter ? Why bring up talk from months ago ?
Because you revived it all cryptopaths and keep adding layers of lies and accusations between periods of quiet time where you lay low.
The only reason i am talking about this now is because you recently started running around on numerous web sites
saying BitcoinExpress was in fact Max Keiser.. and sorry dude but that is dumb bullshit  :D
I also recall you accusing me and BCX of being the same person too (months back)

So..
You need to lay off the lying and drama YOU keep starting.. don't pin it on me buddy !
All i did was inform people here at Bitcointalk you posted on some other web site that you caught BitcoinExpress and exposed him.
Which your crap is laughable but needs to be laid out for all to see when you start playing games to get the web site owner here to put you in charge LOL

PS:
Other guys came forward and said you made coins too.. such as Independence Coin.
So don't even deny it !
Your a mass coin cloner scared of BCX and started running around trying to undermine / discredit people to protect your scam coin empire..
your simply scared of losing clone coin profits from gullible people and trying to remove the thorn(s) in your side.
a play to seize control to push your own clone coin agenda while playing "The Crypto-Knight" an anti-clone coin crusader.. while you make them LOL

and..
How "decentralized" is it putting cryptopaths in charge of an altcoin council ? ..You are contradicting yourself.

if just ask us we'd tell you.. if you pm'd BCX with your info and asked, he would have told you, yes or no i bet !
And the same goes with me, if you have any questions at all i will answer them honestly, such as if you asked me if "i had anything to do with any coins"
no need for wild speculation and insane accusations guy.

I am saying this because you did not stop way back.. you continue to make up bad things about me and some other guys.
Which is why i keep bringing up old history (because it pertains to a long line of it)
And you can stop sending me PM's with threats or Youtube video links or whatever  ::)

i got "really then ?" and the link from yesterday..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgA-wVkuZGo
i don't like Youtube so i didn't look at it sorry :(

and today i got the pm from you.. "you just got owned"
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Spoetnik you're an idiot. I don't like shitcoins that's exactly why I as against the shitcoins you and your group were making, you know the scheme you and muddafudda were in on. You were destroying other peoples coins in attempt to benefit your own shitcoins. I am against your shitcoins but I did not in any way shape or form attempt to destroy your coin.

That is the difference between me and you I don't try to centralize something that should remain decentralized and free. I don't try to destroy something just because I don't like it. I leave the success of a coin up to the free market to decide while you and your rag tag group of scamming shitcoin developers try to destroy any coin in your way while trying to hide under the disguise of doing things for the good of crypto with your operation shitcoin cleanout.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: cryptopaths on August 13, 2014, 07:51:52 PM
You just can't stop making stuff up can you spoetnik.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 13, 2014, 07:58:15 PM
So let me get this right......you propose to have individuals, some of which in your list clearly have some/all of their screws loose, on a council to moderate the alt coin scams?????

Well that's it, enough BTCT for today.....


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: cryptopaths on August 13, 2014, 08:01:07 PM
So let me get this right......you propose to have individuals, some of which in your list clearly have some/all of their screws loose, on a council to moderate the alt coin scams?????

Well that's it, enough BTCT for today.....

Hey man how's emunie coming along? ;D And when's the launch?

This may not be the final list for the council, for this list I just added some names of people prominent in the alt section and let people cast their votes.


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: Fuserleer on August 13, 2014, 08:04:33 PM
Coming on great thanks :)

Ahh ok, good stuff, you certainly need to revise that list somewhat ;)


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: nutildah on August 13, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
So let me get this right......you propose to have individuals, some of which in your list clearly have some/all of their screws loose, on a council to moderate the alt coin scams?????

Well that's it, enough BTCT for today.....

Hey man how's emunie coming along? ;D And when's the launch?

This may not be the final list for the council, for this list I just added some names of people prominent in the alt section and let people cast their votes.

There will be no "council."


Title: Free Market™
Post by: Spoetnik on August 13, 2014, 10:13:07 PM
i have to agree it's a bad idea although in way i sort of like it..
but who wants any of us in charge of anything or whatever LOL

i think it would make things a lot worse than how they are already.
i also previously heavily criticized the motivations for the OP for posting this topic too.. and that says it all !

my 2 cents ;)


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on August 13, 2014, 11:59:57 PM
I nominate myself!


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: iGotSpots on August 14, 2014, 12:29:17 AM
I'm hurt


Title: Re: Altcoin Council - [Poll] Who do you want on the council?
Post by: EvilDave on August 14, 2014, 12:34:33 PM
Looks like it's time to welcome your new C-f-B overlord, guys...... ::)




Title: Free Market™
Post by: Spoetnik on August 14, 2014, 05:00:30 PM
ya wow, i see his vote count went to 46 ..jeez how many accounts does she have here ?  :o
and yeah i said "she" cryptopaths and come-from-above both sit when they pee.