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Title: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 17, 2014, 02:18:48 AM
I dont know if there is already a list for this.
But anyhow if not, let us start shall we? :)

Please share your list and the coin the specific  FUDSTER is targeting. Please do make a reference.

Thanks.

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An Update Here are some Names reported and submitted as known FUDSTERS:


1.MuddaFudda
2. Timerland
3. Bitcycle
4. Suchnekky



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To all submitters Pls provide additional references  the next time you post.
To All on the list you are free to counter the claims.


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: portice on August 17, 2014, 02:21:24 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: yellowduck2 on August 17, 2014, 02:23:55 AM
Let me start first.

1. Satoshi
2. Carsen
3. Bitwarrior

Reference: Internet

My oh my..
Pls be specific and provide your reference.

Got your question wrong.

I removed my post


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: KeyserSozeMC on August 17, 2014, 02:24:29 AM
muddafudda turd


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 17, 2014, 02:25:43 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


Atleast they will be more cautious before listening to these people before they make their final decision.


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: mpalenciac on August 17, 2014, 02:26:42 AM
Fudsters should be burnt at the stake, I'll be sure to get a couple of these assholes listed here.


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: Jacques de Molay on August 17, 2014, 02:27:20 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 17, 2014, 02:30:35 AM
muddafudda turd

Please provide some reference. Thanks


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 17, 2014, 02:34:14 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



What I am trying to point out here are "KNOWN" FUDSTERS who have almost incessant acts of fudding,  much like one has "tourette syndrome" on some list of "coins".


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: Efelts01 on August 17, 2014, 02:46:09 AM
Scam


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: CryptoHypno on August 17, 2014, 02:47:22 AM
This looks good, I'll mine it!


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 17, 2014, 02:59:38 AM
Seems like the list is adding up. :)


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: Jacques de Molay on August 17, 2014, 03:11:14 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



What I am trying to point out here are "KNOWN" FUDSTERS who have almost incessant acts of fudding,  much like one has "tourette syndrome" on some list of "coins".

No I agree with you, I dont know how old you are but in the past ANY black lists are ALWAYS a bad idea. Always.   Even if the intention is good.  I am just saying after a while in this world and trollboxes you know full well who is full of it and not, who is a day trader and who isnt.  You dont need a list because - I have like 10 accounts just on this forum alone. You know.

One day, when the real people with money starting coming in here  and outnumbering the turds - once all the shit has been cleaned out all these kids with their pocket change will go.  And thats where all the bs,scam,fud is coming from - someone loses money in a dip - start a fud campaign on the coin taking the volume. Much like the dark dev having a cry on twiter about XC and the shitstorm it caused. - wasnt needed - pure jealousy.

See it recognize it, profit - that is how I make most of my cash these days. Playing the fudsters against each other. In the real world stock has to have more real assets/has to work etc. In this world no one cares about the coins innovation anymore, everyone cries at a premine - everyone cries at short pow - only kids do because they have an addhd attention span.

My example, I will go into other coin threads to fudd them WHEN they come into threads on coins I am a supporter of JUST TO FUD.  Ill admit I have curbed this shit lately as I am not 12.  


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 17, 2014, 03:38:00 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



What I am trying to point out here are "KNOWN" FUDSTERS who have almost incessant acts of fudding,  much like one has "tourette syndrome" on some list of "coins".

No I agree with you, I dont know how old you are but in the past ANY black lists are ALWAYS a bad idea. Always.   Even if the intention is good.  I am just saying after a while in this world and trollboxes you know full well who is full of it and not, who is a day trader and who isnt.  You dont need a list because - I have like 10 accounts just on this forum alone. You know.

- I consider this list a Graylist.

One day, when the real people with money starting coming in here  and outnumbering the turds - once all the shit has been cleaned out all these kids with their pocket change will go.  And thats where all the bs,scam,fud is coming from - someone loses money in a dip - start a fud campaign on the coin taking the volume. Much like the dark dev having a cry on twiter about XC and the shitstorm it caused. - wasnt needed - pure jealousy.

- That Day has already begun. It is sad that certain  good coins are being Fudded like hell, and a lot of people are loosing a lot money due to this, its a chain reaction and mostly the newbs are the easy target that DO the triggering which causes an Avalanche and affects most of the traders.
and by doing this list, in a way it can be reduced and as you say to help curbed it.


See it recognize it, profit - that is how I make most of my cash these days. Playing the fudsters against each other. In the real world stock has to have more real assets/has to work etc. In this world no one cares about the coins innovation anymore, everyone cries at a premine - everyone cries at short pow - only kids do because they have an addhd attention span.

- People are starting to learn, and we can earn and trade better by doing a  smarter and better way of doing things.

My example, I will go into other coin threads to fudd them WHEN they come into threads on coins I am a supporter of JUST TO FUD. Ill admit I have curbed this shit lately as I am not 12.  - There you go, Its a START! :)


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: portice on August 17, 2014, 04:11:34 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



What I am trying to point out here are "KNOWN" FUDSTERS who have almost incessant acts of fudding,  much like one has "tourette syndrome" on some list of "coins".

No I agree with you, I dont know how old you are but in the past ANY black lists are ALWAYS a bad idea. Always.   Even if the intention is good.  I am just saying after a while in this world and trollboxes you know full well who is full of it and not, who is a day trader and who isnt.  You dont need a list because - I have like 10 accounts just on this forum alone. You know.

- I consider this list a Graylist.

One day, when the real people with money starting coming in here  and outnumbering the turds - once all the shit has been cleaned out all these kids with their pocket change will go.  And thats where all the bs,scam,fud is coming from - someone loses money in a dip - start a fud campaign on the coin taking the volume. Much like the dark dev having a cry on twiter about XC and the shitstorm it caused. - wasnt needed - pure jealousy.

- That Day has already begun. It is sad that certain  good coins are being Fudded like hell, and a lot of people are loosing a lot money due to this, its a chain reaction and mostly the newbs are the easy target that DO the triggering which causes an Avalanche and affects most of the traders.
and by doing this list, in a way it can be reduced and as you say to help curbed it.


See it recognize it, profit - that is how I make most of my cash these days. Playing the fudsters against each other. In the real world stock has to have more real assets/has to work etc. In this world no one cares about the coins innovation anymore, everyone cries at a premine - everyone cries at short pow - only kids do because they have an addhd attention span.

- People are starting to learn, and we can earn and trade better by doing a  smarter and better way of doing things.

My example, I will go into other coin threads to fudd them WHEN they come into threads on coins I am a supporter of JUST TO FUD. Ill admit I have curbed this shit lately as I am not 12.  - There you go, Its a START! :)

They lose money when they sell, others take it as opportunity to buy cheap.  And yes it irritates me when someone posts something in a negative light about a coin and said blind supporter states that "oh yeah, you just want to fud and buy in cheap", come on now open your f*cking eyes.


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: C2 on August 17, 2014, 04:12:32 AM
this list is very helpful  :D


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: Jacques de Molay on August 17, 2014, 06:34:28 AM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



What I am trying to point out here are "KNOWN" FUDSTERS who have almost incessant acts of fudding,  much like one has "tourette syndrome" on some list of "coins".

No I agree with you, I dont know how old you are but in the past ANY black lists are ALWAYS a bad idea. Always.   Even if the intention is good.  I am just saying after a while in this world and trollboxes you know full well who is full of it and not, who is a day trader and who isnt.  You dont need a list because - I have like 10 accounts just on this forum alone. You know.

- I consider this list a Graylist.

One day, when the real people with money starting coming in here  and outnumbering the turds - once all the shit has been cleaned out all these kids with their pocket change will go.  And thats where all the bs,scam,fud is coming from - someone loses money in a dip - start a fud campaign on the coin taking the volume. Much like the dark dev having a cry on twiter about XC and the shitstorm it caused. - wasnt needed - pure jealousy.

- That Day has already begun. It is sad that certain  good coins are being Fudded like hell, and a lot of people are loosing a lot money due to this, its a chain reaction and mostly the newbs are the easy target that DO the triggering which causes an Avalanche and affects most of the traders.
and by doing this list, in a way it can be reduced and as you say to help curbed it.


See it recognize it, profit - that is how I make most of my cash these days. Playing the fudsters against each other. In the real world stock has to have more real assets/has to work etc. In this world no one cares about the coins innovation anymore, everyone cries at a premine - everyone cries at short pow - only kids do because they have an addhd attention span.

- People are starting to learn, and we can earn and trade better by doing a  smarter and better way of doing things.

My example, I will go into other coin threads to fudd them WHEN they come into threads on coins I am a supporter of JUST TO FUD. Ill admit I have curbed this shit lately as I am not 12.  - There you go, Its a START! :)

Fair enough then, if you must have a list chuck this name on the top - timerland


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: mpalenciac on August 17, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
This is one old troll:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=116727
Just check his posts, he jumps from coin to coin to spread FUD about them


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 17, 2014, 11:34:24 PM
If you cannot properly disseminate information, then you deserve to lose money.  This "list" will not be helpful to anyone, because FUDsters sometimes do make very valid points at times.


/thread

I would go one step further - 99% of the people on this very forum are fudsters in one way or another. The moment you speak negatively about a coin that has ZERO issues you are fudding. Its simple as that.



This topic just screams of someone still holding a big bag of "insert" coin and lost the value due to FUD - nothing more nothing less move along folks.



What I am trying to point out here are "KNOWN" FUDSTERS who have almost incessant acts of fudding,  much like one has "tourette syndrome" on some list of "coins".

No I agree with you, I dont know how old you are but in the past ANY black lists are ALWAYS a bad idea. Always.   Even if the intention is good.  I am just saying after a while in this world and trollboxes you know full well who is full of it and not, who is a day trader and who isnt.  You dont need a list because - I have like 10 accounts just on this forum alone. You know.

- I consider this list a Graylist.

One day, when the real people with money starting coming in here  and outnumbering the turds - once all the shit has been cleaned out all these kids with their pocket change will go.  And thats where all the bs,scam,fud is coming from - someone loses money in a dip - start a fud campaign on the coin taking the volume. Much like the dark dev having a cry on twiter about XC and the shitstorm it caused. - wasnt needed - pure jealousy.

- That Day has already begun. It is sad that certain  good coins are being Fudded like hell, and a lot of people are loosing a lot money due to this, its a chain reaction and mostly the newbs are the easy target that DO the triggering which causes an Avalanche and affects most of the traders.
and by doing this list, in a way it can be reduced and as you say to help curbed it.


See it recognize it, profit - that is how I make most of my cash these days. Playing the fudsters against each other. In the real world stock has to have more real assets/has to work etc. In this world no one cares about the coins innovation anymore, everyone cries at a premine - everyone cries at short pow - only kids do because they have an addhd attention span.

- People are starting to learn, and we can earn and trade better by doing a  smarter and better way of doing things.

My example, I will go into other coin threads to fudd them WHEN they come into threads on coins I am a supporter of JUST TO FUD. Ill admit I have curbed this shit lately as I am not 12.  - There you go, Its a START! :)

Fair enough then, if you must have a list chuck this name on the top - timerland

Thank you. Pls Provide references to substantiate the report.


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 17, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
This is one old troll:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=116727
Just check his posts, he jumps from coin to coin to spread FUD about them

Thank you. Pls Provide references to substantiate the report.


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: Bitcycle on August 17, 2014, 11:36:37 PM
This is one old troll:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=116727
Just check his posts, he jumps from coin to coin to spread FUD about them

Thank you. Pls Provide references to substantiate the report.

LOL.  Check in on any scamcoin, like the one this poster invested in.  I'll be there, poking at the scam.


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: Valzador on August 17, 2014, 11:40:33 PM
I don't think this thread belongs in the Altcoin Announcements.  ;)


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 17, 2014, 11:47:45 PM
This is one old troll:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=116727
Just check his posts, he jumps from coin to coin to spread FUD about them

Thank you. Pls Provide references to substantiate the report.

LOL.  Check in on any scamcoin, like the one this poster invested in.  I'll be there, poking at the scam.


Do both of you referring to DarkFOxcoin?


Title: Re: List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 17, 2014, 11:48:33 PM
I don't think this thread belongs in the Altcoin Announcements.  ;)

Thanks for your suggestion. I will monitor and make the adjustment as the need arises.


Title: Re: [ANN] List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: Pebbelzz on August 18, 2014, 12:51:46 AM
suchnekky  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=326437

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8331799#msg8331799
then he takes it back here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8333247#msg8333247
if you continue to read from this point you will see how he just starts FUDing left and right,

he really started up again at this point: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8334040#msg8334040   and    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8334085#msg8334085

This is where he gets purely insane making up IRC chats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8334775#msg8334775

of course as fate would have it the coin did turn out a scam, but this was waaaay before that was done, he just popped back up on the radar to start all this after not posting
and if you research through his posts he likes to FUD alot.

apparently he started on apex coin recently too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686403.msg8394058#msg8394058


Title: Re: [ANN] List of Known FUDSTERS!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 18, 2014, 12:59:57 AM
suchnekky  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=326437

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8331799#msg8331799
then he takes it back here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8333247#msg8333247
if you continue to read from this point you will see how he just starts FUDing left and right,

he really started up again at this point: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8334040#msg8334040   and    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8334085#msg8334085

This is where he gets purely insane making up IRC chats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729345.msg8334775#msg8334775

of course as fate would have it the coin did turn out a scam, but this was waaaay before that was done, he just popped back up on the radar to start all this after not posting
and if you research through his posts he likes to FUD alot.

apparently he started on apex coin recently too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686403.msg8394058#msg8394058

thanks for your detailed report.


Title: Knowing is half the battle !
Post by: Spoetnik on August 18, 2014, 05:22:09 AM
I have grown tired of hearing the term FUD.. like Troll thrown around for a year.
A soon as i started registering at sites and exchanges etc i heard it constantly and i had a hard time understanding what others think it is.
day one on Cryptsy's chat-box i kept seeing people crying to the mod's that there is too much trolling and FUD
and i demanded they were full of shit and had been there all along and i never seen it !

criticism is often mislabeled as FUD.

muddafudda barely says anything so how he has made the top of your list i have no idea..
and the other guys on your list don't even ring a bell to me so they can't be posting that much.

the only people crying FUD are bag holders threatened by criticism.
if people do not have anything to criticize then they stay quiet.
take for example a pre-mine on a coin.. with out it no Trolls could be FUD'ing your coin bashing it about a premine.
get it ?

And i see two key problems here with this..

1) People crying FUD are always "bag holders" scared of criticism thinking it will lower the value of the bags their holding.
if you have nothing to worry about the FUD will be deflected away and you will come out looking better after the FUD
and if you don't then your either bad at defending your coin OR there is a serious problem with it. (name calling or crying FUD is an automatic Lose situation)
I dealt with some FUD'ing on Jackpot coin for example and the guy had some valid points.. so i couldn't just cry FUD. (it would have been the wrong use of the term)

2) Fear Uncertainty Doubt (FUD) is an appropriate and rational response to a scene with an estimated 20k/30k users and 300,000+ dummy accounts here
and around 1,000 Altcoins in existence (most of them blatant clones)
CONTEXT !
When the context is nothing but pathological liars and scammers swirling around like a tornado trying to drain us all of our money (Bitcoin)
then yeah THERE SHOULD BE LOTS OF FUD !

It's simply the only correct way to handle all of this Altcoin scene stuff..

You guys making and defending coins SHOULD be on your heels defending your coins at all times..
because you do NOT deserve the befit of the doubt !
And i might think differently about that perspective on things *if we had some regulation.. but we don't !
Guys like Mark from Mt.Gox can walk away with 500,000 Bitcoins and send messages from Twitter not long after he "got hacked" talking about his "beach sunset".

What your doing with this topic is trying to silence and discredit people *ahead of time.
Over a difference of opinion.
Obvious scam coins are obvious and the rest, is well lets be honest here guys.. "opinion"
For example i think all coins with IPO's are a scam (IPO or similar in an unregulated lawless free market is not a legit and acceptable method of distribution)
Hence the argument and people crying FUD..
The problem is your list here is an attempt to discredit people opinions before they even have a chance to say them..
These so called FUD'sters are suppose to be written off and their opinions discarded and ignored.. that is silly nonsense.

Let me put it this way if you have a legit coin you want to support (bag hold) and it really is good and legit like you claim
then defending yourself from people spreading FUD (unfairly) will do nothing but make your coin look good in the end
and the fud'sters will take down some other coin that is actually bad..
hence eliminating the coin's competition and raising up your coin up over the other 999 coins. (making it look better than the others)
Get it ? You could be using FUD to your advantage !
Each incident of FUD is just one more opportunity for you to "set the record straight" so to speak.. like giving you a soap box to stand on. lol

And if the FUD is NOT fair then it will most likely fall under the category of simple Trolling and that is bannable !
FUD'ing to Troll on coins with unfair or unrealistic *obviously Troll like claims is in my opinion not fair and i agree these guys should get a ban. (and they do it's a rule here)
But if guys are taking the time to articulate their opinions and express a view point ? then that is not FUD.. it's called "opinion".


Some guy FUD'ing the coin i support (bag holding) came and started on our ANN topic and the response he got was childish name calling and guys crying FUD.
I spoke to him on the ANN topic in a fair way and admitted he had some valid points (and he really did) and he left.. never came back since.
Do you guys get it yet ?


Title: Re: Knowing is half the battle !
Post by: bitwarrior on August 18, 2014, 06:03:06 AM
I have grown tired of hearing the term FUD.. like Troll thrown around for a year.
A soon as i started registering at sites and exchanges etc i heard it constantly and i had a hard time understanding what others think it is.
day one on Cryptsy's chat-box i kept seeing people crying to the mod's that there is too much trolling and FUD
and i demanded they were full of shit and had been there all along and i never seen it !

criticism is often mislabeled as FUD.

muddafudda barely says anything so how he has made the top of your list i have no idea..
and the other guys on your list don't even ring a bell to me so they can't be posting that much.

the only people crying FUD are bag holders threatened by criticism.
if people do not have anything to criticize then they stay quiet.
take for example i pre-mine on a coin.. with out it no Trolls could be FUD'ing your coin bashing it about a premine.
get it ?

And i see two key problems here with this..

1) People crying FUD are always "bag holders" scared of criticism thinking it will lower the value of the bags their holding.
if you have nothing to worry about the FUD will be deflected away and you will come out looking better after the FUD
and if you don't then your either bad at defending your coin OR there is a serious problem with it. (name calling or crying FUD is an automatic Lose situation)
I dealt with some FUD'ing on Jackpot coin for example and the guy had some valid points.. so i couldn't just cry FUD. (it would have been the wrong use of the term)

2) Fear Uncertainty Doubt (FUD) is an appropriate and rational response to a scene with an estimated 20k/30k users and 300,000+ dummy accounts here
and around 1,000 Altcoins in existence (most of them blatant clones)
CONTEXT !
When the context is nothing but pathological liars and scammers swirling around like a tornado trying to drain us all of our money (Bitcoin)
then yeah THERE SHOULD BE LOTS OF FUD !

It's simply the only correct way to handle all of this Altcoin scene stuff..

You guys making and defending coins SHOULD be on your heels defending your coins at all times..
because you do NOT deserve the befit of the doubt !
And i might think differently about that perspective on things *if we had some regulation.. but we don't !
Guys like Mark from Mt.Gox can walk away with 500,000 Bitcoins and send messages from Twitter not long after he "got hacked" talking about his "beach sunset".

What your doing with this topic is trying to silence and discredit people *ahead of time.
Over a difference of opinion.
Obvious scam coins are obvious and the rest, is well lets be honest here guys.. "opinion"
For example i think all coins with IPO's are a scam (IPO or similar in an unregulated lawless free market is not a legit and acceptable method of distribution)
Hence the argument and people crying FUD..
The problem is your list here is an attempt to discredit people opinions before they even have a chance to say them..
These so called FUD'sters are suppose to be written off and their opinions discarded and ignored.. that is silly nonsense.

Let me put it this way if you have a legit coin you want to support (bag hold) and it really is good and legit like you claim
then defending yourself from people spreading FUD (unfairly) will do nothing but make your coin look good in the end
and the fud'sters will take down some other coin that is actually bad..
hence eliminating the coin's competition and raising up your coin up over the other 999 coins. (making it look better than the others)
Get it ? You could be using FUD to your advantage !
Each incident of FUD is just one more opportunity for you to "set the record straight" so to speak.. like giving you a soap box to stand on. lol

And if the FUD is NOT fair then it will most likely fall under the category of simple Trolling and that is bannable !
FUD'ing to Troll on coins with unfair or unrealistic *obviously Troll like claims is in my opinion not fair and i agree these guys should get a ban. (and they do it's a rule here)
But if guys are taking the time to articulate their opinions and express a view point ? then that is not FUD.. it's called "opinion".


Some guy FUD'ing the coin i support (bag holding) came and started on our ANN topic and the response he got was childish name calling and guys crying FUD.
I spoke to him on the ANN topic in a fair way and admitted he had some valid points (and he really did) and he left.. never came back since.
Do you guys get it yet ?

Thank you for your quite lengthy response on my thread, this is quite proven to be informative :)
And I agree to most of your opinions, and I respect them.

I post the names by the way in sequential as they are being reported and I do not just put them there based on my own opinions.


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: Spoetnik on August 18, 2014, 06:14:38 AM
thanks for taking my comment under consideration :)
i just don't know why you quote me with such a wall of text i posted LOL


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 18, 2014, 10:53:02 AM
thanks for taking my comment under consideration :)
i just don't know why you quote me with such a wall of text i posted LOL

Just making it clear to what I am responding to :)


Title: Re: Knowing is half the battle !
Post by: KimmyF on August 19, 2014, 03:33:30 PM
I have grown tired of hearing the term FUD.. like Troll thrown around for a year.
A soon as i started registering at sites and exchanges etc i heard it constantly and i had a hard time understanding what others think it is.
day one on Cryptsy's chat-box i kept seeing people crying to the mod's that there is too much trolling and FUD
and i demanded they were full of shit and had been there all along and i never seen it !

criticism is often mislabeled as FUD.

muddafudda barely says anything so how he has made the top of your list i have no idea..
and the other guys on your list don't even ring a bell to me so they can't be posting that much.

the only people crying FUD are bag holders threatened by criticism.
if people do not have anything to criticize then they stay quiet.
take for example a pre-mine on a coin.. with out it no Trolls could be FUD'ing your coin bashing it about a premine.
get it ?

And i see two key problems here with this..

1) People crying FUD are always "bag holders" scared of criticism thinking it will lower the value of the bags their holding.
if you have nothing to worry about the FUD will be deflected away and you will come out looking better after the FUD
and if you don't then your either bad at defending your coin OR there is a serious problem with it. (name calling or crying FUD is an automatic Lose situation)
I dealt with some FUD'ing on Jackpot coin for example and the guy had some valid points.. so i couldn't just cry FUD. (it would have been the wrong use of the term)

2) Fear Uncertainty Doubt (FUD) is an appropriate and rational response to a scene with an estimated 20k/30k users and 300,000+ dummy accounts here
and around 1,000 Altcoins in existence (most of them blatant clones)
CONTEXT !
When the context is nothing but pathological liars and scammers swirling around like a tornado trying to drain us all of our money (Bitcoin)
then yeah THERE SHOULD BE LOTS OF FUD !

It's simply the only correct way to handle all of this Altcoin scene stuff..

You guys making and defending coins SHOULD be on your heels defending your coins at all times..
because you do NOT deserve the befit of the doubt !
And i might think differently about that perspective on things *if we had some regulation.. but we don't !
Guys like Mark from Mt.Gox can walk away with 500,000 Bitcoins and send messages from Twitter not long after he "got hacked" talking about his "beach sunset".

What your doing with this topic is trying to silence and discredit people *ahead of time.
Over a difference of opinion.
Obvious scam coins are obvious and the rest, is well lets be honest here guys.. "opinion"
For example i think all coins with IPO's are a scam (IPO or similar in an unregulated lawless free market is not a legit and acceptable method of distribution)
Hence the argument and people crying FUD..
The problem is your list here is an attempt to discredit people opinions before they even have a chance to say them..
These so called FUD'sters are suppose to be written off and their opinions discarded and ignored.. that is silly nonsense.

Let me put it this way if you have a legit coin you want to support (bag hold) and it really is good and legit like you claim
then defending yourself from people spreading FUD (unfairly) will do nothing but make your coin look good in the end
and the fud'sters will take down some other coin that is actually bad..
hence eliminating the coin's competition and raising up your coin up over the other 999 coins. (making it look better than the others)
Get it ? You could be using FUD to your advantage !
Each incident of FUD is just one more opportunity for you to "set the record straight" so to speak.. like giving you a soap box to stand on. lol

And if the FUD is NOT fair then it will most likely fall under the category of simple Trolling and that is bannable !
FUD'ing to Troll on coins with unfair or unrealistic *obviously Troll like claims is in my opinion not fair and i agree these guys should get a ban. (and they do it's a rule here)
But if guys are taking the time to articulate their opinions and express a view point ? then that is not FUD.. it's called "opinion".


Some guy FUD'ing the coin i support (bag holding) came and started on our ANN topic and the response he got was childish name calling and guys crying FUD.
I spoke to him on the ANN topic in a fair way and admitted he had some valid points (and he really did) and he left.. never came back since.
Do you guys get it yet ?
Agreed that criticism in any thread should not be labeled as FUD. In a community controlled environment this could really help and in a way should be stimulated & seen as an opportunity to inform others.

But when btc users start opening there own moderated threads attacking coins or tech & delete any argument not matching there own view they are cleary FUD'ING in my book.

Kimmy


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: synechist on August 19, 2014, 03:44:01 PM
I'll add another one to Timerland's reputation:
 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742025.0



Title: Re: Knowing is half the battle !
Post by: Spoetnik on August 19, 2014, 08:02:46 PM

Agreed that criticism in any thread should not be labeled as FUD. In a community controlled environment this could really help and in a way should be stimulated & seen as an opportunity to inform others.

But when btc users start opening there own moderated threads attacking coins or tech & delete any argument not matching there own view they are cleary FUD'ING in my book.

Kimmy


that didn't make sense lol

coin cloners use the self mod feature to abuse the community by removing any feedback and it back fires on them
because it make them look bad and just pisses people off.. censorship is not smart.
take URO for example..

FUD'ing rarely exists.. you all love throwing that term around as a way of attacking people.
same as calling a guy a Troll.
The words are very rarely used properly.
Opinion is not trolling or fudding sorry.


Title: Re:FUDDING
Post by: bitwarrior on August 19, 2014, 09:00:42 PM

Agreed that criticism in any thread should not be labeled as FUD. In a community controlled environment this could really help and in a way should be stimulated & seen as an opportunity to inform others.

But when btc users start opening there own moderated threads attacking coins or tech & delete any argument not matching there own view they are cleary FUD'ING in my book.

Kimmy


that didn't make sense lol

coin cloners use the self mod feature to abuse the community by removing any feedback and it back fires on them
because it make them look bad and just pisses people off.. censorship is not smart.
take URO for example..


FUD'ing rarely exists.. you all love throwing that term around as a way of attacking people.
same as calling a guy a Troll.
The words are very rarely used properly.
Opinion is not trolling or fudding sorry.

Fudding in BCT is on a daily basis, I do not know why you are not seeing this.

Trolling and Fudding are under "OPINIONS" without substantiated facts.


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: gustav on August 19, 2014, 09:32:39 PM
is the witchhunt on again?


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: cassius69 on August 19, 2014, 09:47:13 PM
is the witchhunt on again?

thats what hero members do...heroic trolling  ;D


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: bitwarrior on August 20, 2014, 03:03:06 AM
is the witchhunt on again?

thats what hero members do...heroic trolling  ;D

Nice, its just now I have noticed that I have a Hero Membership :)

I was on a Sr, when I started this thread.


Title: Re: Knowing is half the battle !
Post by: KimmyF on August 20, 2014, 03:14:32 PM

Agreed that criticism in any thread should not be labeled as FUD. In a community controlled environment this could really help and in a way should be stimulated & seen as an opportunity to inform others.

But when btc users start opening there own moderated threads attacking coins or tech & delete any argument not matching there own view they are cleary FUD'ING in my book.

Kimmy


that didn't make sense lol

coin cloners use the self mod feature to abuse the community by removing any feedback and it back fires on them
because it make them look bad and just pisses people off.. censorship is not smart.
take URO for example..

FUD'ing rarely exists.. you all love throwing that term around as a way of attacking people.
same as calling a guy a Troll.
The words are very rarely used properly.
Opinion is not trolling or fudding sorry.
Don't make sense,  ok let's lol over this....
I open a moderated thread telling this community Spoetnik just loves FUD and basically reverse everything you said in this post.
delete all your comments and those coming in your defense or opposite to my claim. ...

am I then FUD'ING you?
 


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: muddafudda on August 20, 2014, 04:46:17 PM
Cool story bro.

When you sit on a wealth of information and release at your own peril most people would call smart, those with less intelligence call if FUD.



Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: muddafudda on October 16, 2014, 08:14:35 AM
Well I tried to warn you about moolah. But it's dumb shits like the op that start these threads to try and disclaim the truth.


Nice one dick head, are you now going to credit all the missing funds from moolah OP?


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: bitwarrior on October 16, 2014, 09:29:58 AM
Well I tried to warn you about moolah. But it's dumb shits like the op that start these threads to try and disclaim the truth.


Nice one dick head, are you now going to credit all the missing funds from moolah OP?

It sucks to be you doesn't it?
Since when were you warning this forum about Moolah being a scam? Or it was just only very recent, which is already too late to do anything.

I congratulate Pangia, for seeing the errors of Moolah since the early days , but many did not hid his advice.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560362.msg6110149#msg6110149





Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: muddafudda on October 16, 2014, 10:30:26 AM
Blood is on your hands OP.


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: bitwarrior on October 16, 2014, 11:05:41 AM
Blood is on your hands OP.

Nope, the blood is in your hands dude, if you made a fair warning, where is your evidence and have you substantiate it?
I guess not.

Your situation is like the boy who cried wolf.. deal with it.


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: muddafudda on October 16, 2014, 11:13:41 AM
Lol. grow up little man. your shit attempt to derail thr truth resulted in large amounts  of money lost.

you have the rest of your life with that guilt princess


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: bitwarrior on October 16, 2014, 11:23:21 AM
Lol. grow up little man. your shit attempt to derail thr truth resulted in large amounts  of money lost.

you have the rest of your life with that guilt princess

Derailing the truth? Where did I mentioned that Moolah is not a scam or is a scam?
All you  did is call it out a SCAM,  but I am asking you when did you say so and did you provide any proof of evidence to substantiate your claim?
So people will be warned properly, but nothing!


Title: Re: !!!!!List of Known FUDSTERS!!!!!
Post by: muddafudda on October 16, 2014, 11:45:46 AM
Go do your research on me buttminer, as I'm about to go do an absolute ton of research on you. I'm not your bitch, go do your own shitty work.