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Counter until launch: http://www.nxtcommunity.org/

Go away with that 100% premined scam you call NXT, where 50% of all NXT are held by just 30 people.

Are you talking about BTC?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316297.0

Very nice, looking forward to buy some Indie music and ebooks there!

Me, too. I think that will be my first step as a part of the Economic Majority in Nxt as well.

The early users mined BTC very easily with GPUs. They hold thousands of coins that are only made worth while by later people coming in and getting much less for their mining time/power. Seems pretty much the same to me.

That is great! The cryptos really need more real life applications only from which the cryptos are able to gain values. We really need a paradigm shift in thinking for cryptos in order to make the crypto technology useful and long lasting and profitable.

+1

NXT = MySpace

Qora = Facebook


Keep adding junk add ons to junk, the price will still fall.

One good application is to resell amazon (and other web stores) gift cards that you can buy with paypal. That way you can convert your paypal to NXTs.

14 hours left!
What will be the first product for sale?   I will not sleep tonight...     ::)

We must be doing something right cause we attracted rabbiter (2 month old infant Qora troll) and darkota (darkcoin loverboy) both of whom have stellar reputations within the BTC community, keep up the good work!

What you're thinking of is capitalism, not NXT. And yes, I don't like it either.

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Bitcointalk - The most depressing place in Crypto. :D

so lunch without lunch... i hate topics like that.

Not sure. But you might have a look at this here: https://nxtforum.org/marketplace/project-melodius

Interesting. nxtmarketplace.org lists three upcoming shops on the Nxt Marketplace:

http://www.kordekgallery.com/
https://nxtforum.org/marketplace/project-melodius
http://www.sinanboom.com/

Is this going to be like ebay for digital stuff?

We've heard of people planning to sell MoneyPak's or Vanilla Reloads for example, so you can buy Nxt with Fiat direct.  I think your reputation depends on what you can sell, some people will definitely be selling physical items.

Digital Goods Store, or Physical Naughties Store... you decide!

Will there be rules on what you can sell like on ebay, or no rules like the silk road?

No rules like Silk Road.  It's decentralized, so there is no one to tell you what you can or can't sell, and no fees.  Of course if you sell child porn on there, I will personally hunt you down and kill you.

I doubt the authorities will be too happy about it if it turns into another silk road.

I doubt they can do much about it if it's hosted in Denmark, Slovakia or some Eastern European country.  The only reason the Silkroad was shut down was because it was located in the United States which made it incredibly easy for the authorities to get hold of them.    The same thing happened with Napster.



Actually the biggest downside I can see to the DGS is that it might place downward pressure on NXT's price.  There's a lot of NXT whales, who can't pull their wallets without crashing the value of NXT, and yet are paper millionaires who want goods & services.

Much like I feel the Silkroad, although it brought some publicity to Bitcoin, may had been the reason why Bitcoin had no value for a long time.  If you have whales fireselling BTC to acquire drugs and guns then it lessens the value.  We are seeing a similar trend where mass merchant adoption of BTC only seems to be bringing down prices (due to merchants, seconds after getting their BTC, are fireselling for $Fiat as they have business expenses and employees to pay and most businesses take less than 10% in revenue as net profit.  Merchants are dumping 90%+ of the BTC they are receiving).

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There will be a downwards pressure on NXT through buyers, but the media attention might be able to offset it. We will see what the net-effect will be.

Great...Im just wondering where there is a Johnny Depp lookalike on that page :S

http://www.nxtcommunity.org/sites/default/files/nxt-nerds/nxt-nerd-011.jpg

I can see how the price will drop, but to me that is a natural part of the cycle.  For crypto to be a real currency, it needs to be alive, being spent, traded, bought, and sold.  I'm guessing that eventually in the end that a balance will be instituted. 

Decentralized eBay and Amazon if you will.

It actually was supposed to be used for selling digital goods but nobody knows what people will use it for.

I think we will have a familiarization period (maybe half a year) and then people start raising issues here and there. Hence there will be an update to remedy them. It will be the same as with Asset Exchange of which we will have a version 2.0. So feel free, to give it a try and provide feedback.

I am interested how this would affect the price of NXTs.

Qora has been going down and down and there is nothing to show that it will amount to anything. You seriously comparing to to Facebook :o

His messages are so hilarious that I am starting to wonder if he's a plant from Ora to defame Qora   :D

If Qora keeps on being an annoyance some NXT whale will just buy it all up with pocket change and crash it down to $0.   :D
 

It is alive!

But, err, where are the products?

You can buy my products!  ;D

NXT-PHHN-29YU-9JER-22222

I guess there will be some initiative with a website with products that are added. Maybe on the Nxt blockchain websites too?

For this time, here are some: https://nxtforum.org/marketplace/

You bet I will. Let me have a look. :D

Interesting. ;)

But, well, but that is witty. :) Good work. Keep us posted if people buy from you. :)

Found another product: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/selling-my-digital-drawing-on-dgs-)/

Also look for: NXT-9SYB-C2GF-JA2X-2R4S3

Loooooooool: and this one, too: NXT-QT7P-HWS6-SABB-G59H8

Okay, more porn here: https://nxtforum.org/marketplace/sellers-on-digital-goods-store/msg86659/#new

I hope people will also sell something reasonable there. :D

Indeed.

This is a forum and we can make as many Nxt topics as we want

good day

without reading the thread (so forgive me if this question was already answered): is the "Next Volta" album already for sale?
if so which account number, if not does somebody know more?

thanks, LiQio

The seller provided a better preview mechanism: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/selling-my-digital-drawing-on-dgs-)/msg87323/#msg87323

Yes.

NXT-D6K7-MLY6-98FM-FLL5T

thanks ChuckOne - damn, that was so big and blue my eyes/brain invalidated it ;)

(now going to spend 150NXT on music)

Nxt volta album purchased and downloadednin less than 5mins. This is fcking awsome
Drop everything now and buy that album why? just because you can ;D

interesting!

Hi, is there link for online wallet for newest version, I would like to check it out. thanx

It doesn't really have to be digital stuff. You can communicate with the sellers via encrypted messages and make it physical stuff too.

In that sense, it's also encrypted email service where you can send someone shipping address and no one -- not even FBI -- will be able to decrypt the message.

If there are a lot new buyers and new users, that would mean upward pressure as those people would need nxt to buy

If the sellers immediately dump their Nxt for fiat, it would cancel out the upward pressure from new buyers. However, if the sellers hold it would mean upward pressure. Some of the sellers would have to immediately sell their Nxt to buy new stock, but some might hold their Nxt.

And all this creates volume  ;D

Volume is the natural indicator for how healthy a currency is. As it seems Nxt's health status is getting better each day.

Indeed.

Btw. do not forget to tell us about how you find the feedback functionality.

SELLING: A Picture Of The Butt That Saved Bter*

Since I haven't made a dime off my participation in the negotiations, I figured that I'd try to capitalize on my "stardom" using the new digital goods store. ::shameless self-promotion::  lol

NXT-QT7P-HWS6-SABB-G59H8

 ;D

Here's a pic of me in public a couple years back.  I haven't changed much, except now I have dark hair with blue streaks in it:

https://i.imgur.com/UBWYSPf.jpg

Now you know that you won't get a pic of some morbidly obese man butt. lol

For the full Bter heist story(with some poetic flare), read here: http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0814/cryptocurrpbterjob.htm (http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0814/cryptocurrpbterjob.htm)

*I and this sale are in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Bter.com

Rofl. You must be kidding.

she's not kidding  :D

I admit. You are crazy. Haha

Retweet!!!

https://twitter.com/sepehrmohamadi/status/502022327710646274

Some aliases here, from Aliasgroup account:
(http://presentation101.com/aliasgroup/)

NXT-T3F9-K3YS-FGDE-2B6QR

Ludom has original articles for sale - and the first DGS crowdfunding campaign! (product 06)   :)

NXT-EAVH-SLEV-KSEE-EE2KP

The first mini ebook on the Marketplace

AND

The first crowdfunding campaign on the Marketplace

We make the history:

https://nxtforum.org/ebooks/the-first-mini-nxt-ebook-first-crowdfunding-campaign-with-the-nxt-marketplace/

Cool.

We need a lightweight version, like trade.secure. I tried talking to some c4s sellers, but of course not a single one was interested in installing softwares.

Zero interest.

I have seen saying for ages we need lightweight clients, and things like chrome plugins.

Could you promote that idea in nxtforum?

I have been considering writing a lightweight client so I don't have to d/l the blockchain on work PC. Any bounties available you thing?

But, how would this be different than the current web wallets out there? Granted, neither of them supports the AE, mgw, or DGS.

Making something like a Nxt Electrum could be very beneficial, but it would be much more complicated than building a Bitcoin/Litecoin version. Electrum "protects you from losing coins in a backup mistake or computer failure, because your wallet can be recovered from a secret phrase that you can write on paper or learn by heart. There is no waiting time when you start the client, because it does not download the Bitcoin block chain."

Features:
"Instant on: Your client does not download the blockchain. It uses a network of specialized servers that index the blockchain.
Forgiving: Your wallet can be recovered from a secret seed.
Safe: Your seed and private keys are encrypted on your hard drive. They are never sent to the servers.
Low trust: Information received from the servers is verified using SPV. Servers are authenticated using SSL
No downtimes: Your client is not tied to a particular server; it will switch instantly if your server is down.
Ubiquitous: You can use the same wallet on different computers, they will synchronize automatically.
Cold Storage: Sign transactions from a computer that is always offline. Broadcast them using a machine that does not have your keys.
Reachable: You can export your private keys into other Bitcoin clients."

IMO- all coins that want to be successful should have a solution such as this where downloading the block chain is not necessary, or at the very least a "mini blockchain"-like implementation which uses a ledger that is shortened periodically rather than having a history of every transaction since the genesis block.

An electrum version of Nxt would be different from most web wallets in that you have complete control of your wallet and private key- the secret phrase to unlock your wallet is never stored on the servers. I think it is a much safer version of a web wallet.

By the way- this Nxt marketplace is freaking sweet. I like it. :)

I disagree. NXT already uses a brain wallet concept. You could think of that as the seed if you want.

So, My NXT Lite wallet could take two approaches, I could decide or leave it up to the user:

1. The user remembers his passphrase/seed and nothing is stored for him. Since this is a "light wallet" it will remember your ID(s) and can display your balances/assets etc by only knowing your ID. You could even "add" an address without every giving the wallet the password/seed.

2. It could work like a bitcoin wallet. Where it creates a wallet.dat file to store your passphrases and encrypt that wallet file using a password/pin your provide. Either the wallet can generate a password/key for you or you can provide (import) an existing wallet.

Nothing complicated about it. It looks/feels the same to the end user as the current Electrum if that is what people wanted. The software could even be deterministic, it could generate a seed, and then use that seed to generate additional accounts if you wanted more than one. So, you could recover a whole bunch of IDs with a single seed.

Well, you would need to add support for all of the different features Nxt is implementing, right? That is the only reason I thought it would be more complicated, as Bitcoin/Litecoin Electrum clients don't need to worry about support for an asset exchange, marketplace, etcetra. Then again I am not a developer and you sound like you know a lot more about Nxt than I do. :)

Number of sellers:

Music: 2
eBooks: 2
Games: 2
Goods: 6
Aliases: 4
Services: 6
Domains: 3


Keep it rolling, guys.

I am a developer and do understand how NXT works, even though I haven't looked at its implementation code but mostly at the API.

I can reuse the NRS and MGW Lite UI, so it would be a matter of creating a Proxy that has the same API as the NRS and pass them onto a service API to get the information and perform the functions needed.
 

Not bad for only a few days.  Maybe we should make a tutorial for how to use the marketplace? Does it exist already?

Regarding price, the way I see it:
Price goes down due to:
-Merchants being paid in Nxt, then selling those Nxt to cover USD expenses

Price goes up due to:
-People buying Nxt, so they can buy items sold via marketplace
-Nxt being used as more of a currency as I suspect that merchants are more likely to keep their money as Nxt.  Partially because it's more of a hassle to cash out then it is via BitPay.  Partially because this should attract those interested in crypto more than others, and they are therefore less likely to cash out.
-Increased marketing for Nxt as it's yet another very cool feature of Nxt
-People downloading the client, realizing all the cool features Nxt has and getting over that initial hassle of setting it up so they can sell items, then deciding that they'll hold on to some Nxt.

Volume goes up in general.

I see it as sort of the craigslist of crypto.

sorry for offtopic, but Im on fork, what should I do? :'(

Cool, I think you guys should seriously consider a project such as this.  :)

People hate downloading and syncing block chains.

Cheers

Well, yes, it seems so.

All the "goods" so far

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/dgs/

And listing on nxtexplorer

http://nxtexplorer.com/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=120&switch=1

dude plz dont even tell me u call this shite innovation.
looks like 1997 craigslist but worse   who in their right minds would use this shit

~CfA~

Craigslist is not decentralized. They can censor you. They can ban your account.

Try banning a seller on Nxt.

There is the difference.

Plus, craigslist doesn't have any any payment mechanism. Payment processors have their own rules and can take large percentage of your profit.

Try doing that with decentralized market.

a safe haven for child porn and human trafficking u say?  oh interesting is this NxT market place all about ?

hmmm i prefer craigslist where the scum can be banned.

~CfA~

Fine, but still craigslist doesn't have payment  processor.

ive got a question if i post ur real name address wifes name and so on as a sale description ur craigslist clone will list it and nobody can delete it or ban me right?

wow this is cool i might put some government classified material in there and see what happens lol

seems like nxt might be innovative after all... this sounds nifty

~CfA~

Who can they arrest?  CfB is from Belarus, a puppet of Russia and Russia is the one who gave asylum to Eric Snowden.

NXT can pretty much dominate the crypto black market.

What does that have to do with payment processor?

If you are involved in activity that is illegal in your country, you risk getting in trouble with law.

By the way, people already do what you described on Torr.  

i dont care if anyone is arrested or not
its just a nice method of doing illegal things

for example i can put ur (taunsew) full dox in there and u can never delete it no matter what u do or which police u ask

a bulletproof way for terrorists to thrive

has nxt marketing reached al qaida and isis yet ?


my country doesnt really have such thing as a law my friend :/

~CfA~

That's life. Welcome to the 21st  century. How are you going to delete it from bitcoin blockchain?

Once something is online, you can't really get it deleted. It will popup somewhere else.  

one second plz u said nxt marketplace was innovative and now u say its same like old bitcoin blockchain
thats not very consistent marketing

u should emphasise the terrorist use this can bring.  NxT decentralized drugs, weapons, ammunition, crime and human trafficking marketplace

we have a new era of NxT marketing that will succeed up to government levels 4 sure!

EXCITING.

~CfA~

There's already all those things in Belarus, Ukraine and Russia.  So what new thing would NXT really bring if it went down that route?  Except maybe get $billions from the terrorists and mafia.

Yeah if every NXT whale became a billionaire and the lessers became millionaires - they'ld all just relocate to Belarus, Ukraine or Qatar and get their money out.

If you are going to say I said this or that (words like  "innovative",) quote me.   Don't make up stuff about what I said.


You are using same argument that BTC haters use -- like it's used by terrorists and prostitutes.

If someone is breaking the law, that's between them and and law enforcement.

Should we complain about the Internet as people use it for child porn? What about Tor?  

Except for a brothel in Nevada, I haven't heard about any prostitute accepting BTC.

The typical dumb broad would go: "huh?  Whaaa... you want to pay me with magical internet coins?  Just give me cash.  Gosh what a loser"

I know online cam girls who accept BTC -- not that many, but I would like to see wider adoption by the internet porn industry. 

True. Show some respect anyway, as I don't have a problem with porn industry or girls who work in porn industry.  It's free world.

Oh noes...you can list illegal stuff on teh Interwebs?

Better ban it all then, C-f-A. You're gonna have a lot of work coming up soon, mate, lots of other 2nd gen crypto's coming out with marketplaces.
And that nasty dollar stuff.....shit, I heard u can buy guns + dope with it, in pretty much every city in the world.

While we're at it...lets ban cities as well. Too many places for drug dealers to hide.....


By the way...being sexist just makes you look like a frigging Neanderthal, TS. Really....


Heres a couple of C-f-A quotes to end on, just to give you an idea on how consistent his thinking is:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664146.msg7560993#msg7560993

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679185.0

I gather one of the problems is lack of a repeating subscription feature. They want to sign you up and then you pay 20 NXT a month automatically until you cancel. No crypto-currency supports that yet. I hope it will be one of the things covered by Smart Contracts, or Automated Transactions, or whatever. It's a basic banking facility that would also be useful for paying mortgages etc.

C4S doesn't have repeat subscription and is one of the top  site. They still don't take BTC.

No.. that makes sense, before he invested:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664146.msg7560993#msg7560993

After he invested:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679185.0


But yeah.. CfA is obviously just trying to manipulate opinions rather than having a real discussion.

Regarding censoring, there are some centralized sites that will be doing that type of censoring and only posting the items they want.  Melido.us is for example creating a site to sell music via the marketplace.

Also, you can view the shops of individual users, so people can can choose what shops they would like to shop from.

It's already possible to buy drugs or most of that stuff online, heard of dark net?  Already possible to buy that stuff: http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/i-let-grams-guide-me-through-the-dark-nets-illegal-bazaars

Anyway nxt community would like to try to distance itself from that stuff and there will be plenty of legitimate businesses selling goods via the marketplace.  And regarding legitimate uses, think about selling music via iTunes, Nxt will charge a very low fee relatively speaking, meaning artists make more and customers pay less because we're cutting out the middle man.  Same for eBooks and computer games.

Point being, there are legitimate uses for the marketplace.

Passion VIP escorts in Birmingham UK accept btc as payment  ;D

http://www.birminghamescorts.co.uk/

Y u no use marketplace!

https://nxtforum.org/nxt-marketplace/

There is already an 'alleged' (could be scam) former road vendor who is selling "candy".  
You have to wait until merchants build reputation.

Let us hope we see more of this and merchants live peacefully next to each other.

There was a major update in the NXT client. Now you can "browse" and search for listenings.

Check it out now!

https://i.imgur.com/obwOh48.png
https://i.imgur.com/UMB7mge.png

I am selling promoted tweets with the Nxt Marketplace. Buy them for https://twitter.com/nxtgids on NXT-23AN-H49Y-PXEC-AK7XM!  :)

#makingmoneywithnxt

TaunSew is a NEM shill.  Nothing better to do but mock NXT progress while Stalled-progress-NEM figureheads have meltdowns in the NEM ANN.  :D :D



Get the fuck out of here TaunSew.

When will NXT have Smart Contracts, or Automated Transactions? They are testing it but when will NXT get it out of test phase?

Probably later this year. I think it's at least 2 updates away, though.

You can follow along in this thread that is dedicated just to talk about the Nxt tech and future releases:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831202.0

There is nothing 'official' about it and is subject to change. There is no plan set in stone and has been changed (i.e. Voting and Multisig are now coming out together instead of one after the other)

I have pieced it together from comments the devs give. It just gives you an idea  ;)

Nxt Marketplace sellers might be interested in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=596509.0

How much are fees? Might be worth posting them if they are cheaper than ebays  :D :D