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Title: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: spacelab on August 21, 2014, 08:18:51 PM
Everyone in the cryptosphere is circle-jerking about anonymous features. Which in my mind, are completely fucking irrelevant, because people who already use darknet markets tumble their bitcoins..

Maybe we can ask UPS and FEDex to integrate our anonymous protocols... jesus fking christ.

If you want to play the game, that game comes with risk - but as for everything else, bitcoin works just fine.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: joel511 on August 21, 2014, 08:22:29 PM
THE. BEST. THING. I. EVER. READ. ON. BTC. TALK. 

Instead of getting attention for crypto, people are trying to hide it in the shadows.  No one is worried about the true problem with crypto.  It needs more attention.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. (except me)
Post by: EndCiv on August 21, 2014, 09:12:29 PM
That goes double for me. People just want to perpetuate the ponzi..,
Make a new coin every week, dump it.. and repeat; rather than honor creative
projects that stick to the fundamental concepts of the BitCoin dream.

And speaking about Retarded!  j/k I LOVE this stupid creation.
I mean, if you're going to be stupid.. Take it SERIOUSLY!!
The stupider it looks, the more important it probably is.

http://dobbscoin.info/images/title.png
The ONLY Crypto-Currency accepted on the Pleasure Saucers.
"BOB" brings a NEW DESTINY for the abnormal. (BOB) comes to JUSTIFY our sins;
to UNMASK the Conspiracy, and to get us back the SLACK they stole away!

http://dobbscoin.info/images/choose.png (http://www.dobbscoin.info)
http://dobbscoin.info/images/900_line.png
When two or three are gathered in my name, and I am not there; do you not feel my hands in your pockets? - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FOR NOTHING?
Then you've come to the right place.
http://www.dobbscoin.info
DON'T  GET  FORKED * (http://dobbscoin.info/smf/index.php?topic=33.0)
SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND FOLLOW
IT ON TWITTER @DobbsCOIN (https://twitter.com/DobbsCOIN)
 FACEBOOK: The Dobbscoin Conspiracy (https://www.facebook.com/groups/dobbscoin/)
http://dobbscoin.info/images/about.png (http://www.dobbscoin.info)http://dobbscoin.info/images/465blank_line.png
DOWNLOAD WALLETS
  • Windows (https://github.com/dobbscoin/dobbscoin-source/releases/download/v0.8.6.2/dobbscoin-0.8.6.2-win32.zip)
  • MAC/OSX (https://github.com/dobbscoin/dobbscoin-source/releases/download/v0.8.6.2/dobbscoin-0.8.6.2-osx.dmg)
  • LINUX (https://github.com/dobbscoin/dobbscoin-source/releases/download/v0.8.6.2/dobbscoin-0.8.6.2-linux.zip)
  • SOURCE  (http://github.com/dobbscoin)

 HOME PAGE: http://www.dobbscoin.info (http://explorer.dobbscoin.info)
 Explorer:  http://explorer.dobbscoin.info (http://explorer.dobbscoin.info)
 Pool: http://pool.dobbscoin.net (http://pool.dobbscoin.net)  
 Faucet: http://faucet.dobbscoin.info (http://faucet.dobbscoin.info)
 Spin Game: http://dobbsspin.dobbscoin.info (http://dobbsspin.dobbscoin.info)

ALL Spin Game Losses GO DIRECTLY TO FAUCET.
 May the LUCK PLANE BE WITH YOU.

  21 Mil Total Coins / ZERO PREMINE  
ETERNAL SALVATION OR TRIPLE YOUR MONEY BACK
http://dobbscoin.info/images/900blank_line.png
WE KNOW: Dobbscoin is NOT one of those "Pre-mined as much in the Genesis Block as are created the first six months", 'mega coins'
like people seem to want.. and it's not some misspelled Japanese animal meme that everyone told you *YOU NEED*
..and it's not one of the coins that got created by TheCabal of exchange developers
and exchange developers friends that your allowed to want so much..

It's an honest to goodness, unattractive to pumping and dumping, long term,
good faith crypto currency, people always pretend that they allegedly want.

Avoid False Prophets, Cultivate appropriate Slack.
http://dobbscoin.info/images/border2.gif
GET RIGHT WITH "BOB" - http://www.subgenius.com
http://www.dobbscoin.info

     (BOB) Dobbscoin is the Officially Approved crypto-currency of the Church of the SubGenius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius), a TWENTY+ Year old UFO 'parody religion/SEX Cult' that targets many better known belief systems. The Church of the SubGenius teaches a complex belief system that focuses on the clip-art Deity, J. R. "Bob" Dobbs, and shines the light upon A Global Conspiracy bent on stealing your Slack. Of course, what 'religion'/Cult would be complete without UFO's, ..tons of SEX and a grand Armageddon scenario.  More: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius#Deities)

"BOB" Dobbs in the Media
  • The Church of the SubGenius has been featured in: Playboy, WIRED (http://archive.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/1998/07/13466), Rolling Stone, and preformed hundreds of successful Live Night Club Shows. "BOB" even has Nationally Distributed Video ARISE (Polygram). Not to mention "BOB" is endorsed by most major Counterculture Heroes and Subculture artists.
  • The Band 'SUBLIME' (1), shipped a 23 track '40 OZ OUNCES TO FREEDOM' CD through Skunk Records - with a Dobbshead on it.
  • The Band 'DEVO' (2) is SubGenius as fuck! (see below)
  • Negativland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EseXUufowr8): You may have never heard of Negativland, but you've probably heard clips of their stuff as bumper music on late night programs such as Ground Zero w/Clyde Lewis (http://www.groundzeromedia.org/).
Famous SubGenii include:
  • Robert Anton Wilson(3): "Pope BOB" was an ordained minister in the Church of the SubGenius, wrote for and was featured in the Three Fisted Tales of "BOB" (http://www.amazon.com/Three-Fisted-Tales-Bob-Ivan-Stang/dp/0671671901) book, and also featured "BOB" in The Illumanatus Trilogy (http://www.amazon.com/Illuminatus-Trilogy-Pyramid-Golden-Leviathan/dp/0440539811/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408389277&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=illumanatus+trilogy); one of the many books he authored himself.
  • Patrick Volkerding(4) of Slackware Linux: 'Slackware' -duh
  • Timothy Leary,
  • Ken Kesey,
  • PeeWee Herman (click for image (http://dobbscoin.info/images/peewee-bobdobbs.jpg)),
  • Wierd Al,
  • R. Crumb (https://www.google.com/search?q=r+crumb+subgenius&client=firefox-a&hs=zcd&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rYi9U__CONO0yATiuIEQ&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=882) (Subculture Comics: Fritz the Cat/WEIRDO), drew & wrote for "BOB".
  • Penn Jillette of Penn and Teller IS a PAID Minister/Member of The Church of the SubGenius.
  • Jello Biafra to name just a few
More about Famous SubGenius (http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/fun/trivia/X0009_CELEB.TXT.html)

The Church of the SubGenius even has three weekly Syndicated Radio Shows, in 15 Markets.
WCSB (http://www.wcsb.org) Cleveland, WREK (http://www.wrek.org) Atlanta & KPFA (https://www.kpfa.org) Berkeley, Ca, as well as countless of minor broadcast networks.

The Atari - ST (5)
At the time the Atari ST started shipping, a limited set of GEM fonts were included within the ROMs. These fonts featured the standard 8x8 pixel graphical character set for the ST (the main in-ROM "font" for GEM, and text-mode TOS operations in color modes) and contains a recognizable facsimile of the face of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs, (the figurehead of the Church of the Subgenius).

The FACT is.. (BOB) DobbsCoin is about Slack,
It's about FIGHTING The Conspiracy, and it's about getting BACK what THEY Stole away.
And if we just so happen to 'Survive The Great Cataclysms Through UFO Transport, while taking control through liberated weirdness by tapping our secret 'Abnormality Potential. ..then FUCK YES, I'll have TWO.


(1): 40 OZ OUNCES TO FREEDOM' CD initially/ltd. released with a Dobbshead on it. (no shit)(link1 (http://dobbscoin.info/images/sublime1.jpg)) (link2 (http://dobbscoin.info/images/sublime2.jpg)) (link3 (http://dobbscoin.info/images/sublime3.jpg)).
(2): Devo actively embraced the Church of the SubGenius in concert (source: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devo)). Mark Mothersbaugh of DEVO produced the audio for The Bobacatto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5wR8odaQfo), and you can watch him HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoAle6X4EJA) speaking on The Conspiracy, the life-changing power of "BOB" and Slack. (source: ARISE The SubGenius Movie : Polygram Video).
(3): Wilson also joined the Church of the SubGenius, who referred to him as Pope Bob. He contributed to their literature, including the book Three-Fisted Tales of "Bob", and shared a stage with their founder, Rev. Ivan Stang on several occasions Winterstar-01 (http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/fun/devivals/Winterstar-01/winterstar-01.html) & Austin, TX (http://subgenius.com/bigfist/pics13/RAW/index.html). Wilson also founded the Guns and Dope Party, and its corresponding Burning Man theme camp. See also: Historia Discordia (http://historiadiscordia.com/page/5)
(4): Patrick Volkerding, the software engineer known as the founder and maintainer of Slackware Linux distro, is a SubGenius. The use of the word Slack in "Slackware" is a homage to J. R. "Bob" Dobbs: "I'll admit that it was SubGenius inspired. In fact, back in the 2.0 through 3.0 days we used to print a dobbshead on each CD. (https://www.soldierx.com/category/Tags/Linux)" -Patrick Volkerding.
(5)Atari ST: Atari ST BASIC had a dobbshead easter egg (image (http://dobbscoin.info/images/ST_BASIC_-_J.R._Bob_Dobbs.gif))


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: spud21 on August 21, 2014, 09:25:28 PM
This thead is entitled "It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read". If the OP thinks everyone here is retarded, then he must think he is himself retarded, as he is here himself. Otherwise why is this thread not entitled "It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded (except me)"?


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: SLVR4ME on August 21, 2014, 10:13:17 PM
This thead is entitled "It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read". If the OP thinks everyone here is retarded, then he must think he is himself retarded, as he is here himself. Otherwise why is this thread not entitled "It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded (except me)"?

Golf clap for Spud21
OP certainly has a point tho


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 21, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
OP is retarded

/thread


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: rikkejohn on August 21, 2014, 10:16:52 PM
Everyone in the cryptosphere is circle-jerking about anonymous features. Which in my mind, are completely fucking irrelevant, because people who already use darknet markets tumble their bitcoins..

Maybe we can ask UPS and FEDex to integrate our anonymous protocols... jesus fking christ.

If you want to play the game, that game comes with risk - but as for everything else, bitcoin works just fine.

BTC does not really work just fine. It's horrible to use, slow and I would hate to download that blockchain.

BTC is a dinosaur, but popular nonetheless.

So I will end up agreeing with you. Nobody apart from a few kids or fantasists want the anonymous shite peddled today.

It'll die out over the next few months, thankfully.



Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. (except me)
Post by: rdnkjdi on August 21, 2014, 10:27:55 PM
That goes double for me. People just want to perpetuate the ponzi..,
Make a new coin every week, dump it.. and repeat; rather than honor creative
projects that stick to the fundamental concepts of the BitCoin dream.

And speaking about Retarded!  j/k I LOVE this stupid creation.
I mean, if you're going to be stupid.. Take it SERIOUSLY!!
The stupider it looks, the more important it probably is.

http://dobbscoin.info/images/title.png
The ONLY Crypto-Currency accepted on the Pleasure Saucers.
"BOB" brings a NEW DESTINY for the abnormal. (BOB) comes to JUSTIFY our sins;
to UNMASK the Conspiracy, and to get us back the SLACK they stole away!

http://dobbscoin.info/images/choose.png (http://www.dobbscoin.info)
http://dobbscoin.info/images/900_line.png
When two or three are gathered in my name, and I am not there; do you not feel my hands in your pockets? - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR SOMETHING FOR NOTHING?
Then you've come to the right place.
http://www.dobbscoin.info
DON'T  GET  FORKED * (http://dobbscoin.info/smf/index.php?topic=33.0)
SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND FOLLOW
IT ON TWITTER @DobbsCOIN (https://twitter.com/DobbsCOIN)
 FACEBOOK: The Dobbscoin Conspiracy (https://www.facebook.com/groups/dobbscoin/)
http://dobbscoin.info/images/about.png (http://www.dobbscoin.info)http://dobbscoin.info/images/465blank_line.png
DOWNLOAD WALLETS
  • Windows (https://github.com/dobbscoin/dobbscoin-source/releases/download/v0.8.6.2/dobbscoin-0.8.6.2-win32.zip)
  • MAC/OSX (https://github.com/dobbscoin/dobbscoin-source/releases/download/v0.8.6.2/dobbscoin-0.8.6.2-osx.dmg)
  • LINUX (https://github.com/dobbscoin/dobbscoin-source/releases/download/v0.8.6.2/dobbscoin-0.8.6.2-linux.zip)
  • SOURCE  (http://github.com/dobbscoin)

 HOME PAGE: http://www.dobbscoin.info (http://explorer.dobbscoin.info)
 Explorer:  http://explorer.dobbscoin.info (http://explorer.dobbscoin.info)
 Pool: http://pool.dobbscoin.net (http://pool.dobbscoin.net)  
 Faucet: http://faucet.dobbscoin.info (http://faucet.dobbscoin.info)
 Spin Game: http://dobbsspin.dobbscoin.info (http://dobbsspin.dobbscoin.info)

ALL Spin Game Losses GO DIRECTLY TO FAUCET.
 May the LUCK PLANE BE WITH YOU.

  21 Mil Total Coins / ZERO PREMINE  
ETERNAL SALVATION OR TRIPLE YOUR MONEY BACK
http://dobbscoin.info/images/900blank_line.png
WE KNOW: Dobbscoin is NOT one of those "Pre-mined as much in the Genesis Block as are created the first six months", 'mega coins'
like people seem to want.. and it's not some misspelled Japanese animal meme that everyone told you *YOU NEED*
..and it's not one of the coins that got created by TheCabal of exchange developers
and exchange developers friends that your allowed to want so much..

It's an honest to goodness, unattractive to pumping and dumping, long term,
good faith crypto currency, people always pretend that they allegedly want.

Avoid False Prophets, Cultivate appropriate Slack.
http://dobbscoin.info/images/border2.gif
GET RIGHT WITH "BOB" - http://www.subgenius.com
http://www.dobbscoin.info

     (BOB) Dobbscoin is the Officially Approved crypto-currency of the Church of the SubGenius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius), a TWENTY+ Year old UFO 'parody religion/SEX Cult' that targets many better known belief systems. The Church of the SubGenius teaches a complex belief system that focuses on the clip-art Deity, J. R. "Bob" Dobbs, and shines the light upon A Global Conspiracy bent on stealing your Slack. Of course, what 'religion'/Cult would be complete without UFO's, ..tons of SEX and a grand Armageddon scenario.  More: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius#Deities)

"BOB" Dobbs in the Media
  • The Church of the SubGenius has been featured in: Playboy, WIRED (http://archive.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/1998/07/13466), Rolling Stone, and preformed hundreds of successful Live Night Club Shows. "BOB" even has Nationally Distributed Video ARISE (Polygram). Not to mention "BOB" is endorsed by most major Counterculture Heroes and Subculture artists.
  • The Band 'SUBLIME' (1), shipped a 23 track '40 OZ OUNCES TO FREEDOM' CD through Skunk Records - with a Dobbshead on it.
  • The Band 'DEVO' (2) is SubGenius as fuck! (see below)
  • Negativland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EseXUufowr8): You may have never heard of Negativland, but you've probably heard clips of their stuff as bumper music on late night programs such as Ground Zero w/Clyde Lewis (http://www.groundzeromedia.org/).
Famous SubGenii include:
  • Robert Anton Wilson(3): "Pope BOB" was an ordained minister in the Church of the SubGenius, wrote for and was featured in the Three Fisted Tales of "BOB" (http://www.amazon.com/Three-Fisted-Tales-Bob-Ivan-Stang/dp/0671671901) book, and also featured "BOB" in The Illumanatus Trilogy (http://www.amazon.com/Illuminatus-Trilogy-Pyramid-Golden-Leviathan/dp/0440539811/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408389277&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=illumanatus+trilogy); one of the many books he authored himself.
  • Patrick Volkerding(4) of Slackware Linux: 'Slackware' -duh
  • Timothy Leary,
  • Ken Kesey,
  • PeeWee Herman (click for image (http://dobbscoin.info/images/peewee-bobdobbs.jpg)),
  • Wierd Al,
  • R. Crumb (https://www.google.com/search?q=r+crumb+subgenius&client=firefox-a&hs=zcd&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rYi9U__CONO0yATiuIEQ&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=882) (Subculture Comics: Fritz the Cat/WEIRDO), drew & wrote for "BOB".
  • Penn Jillette of Penn and Teller IS a PAID Minister/Member of The Church of the SubGenius.
  • Jello Biafra to name just a few
More about Famous SubGenius (http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/fun/trivia/X0009_CELEB.TXT.html)

The Church of the SubGenius even has three weekly Syndicated Radio Shows, in 15 Markets.
WCSB (http://www.wcsb.org) Cleveland, WREK (http://www.wrek.org) Atlanta & KPFA (https://www.kpfa.org) Berkeley, Ca, as well as countless of minor broadcast networks.

The Atari - ST (5)
At the time the Atari ST started shipping, a limited set of GEM fonts were included within the ROMs. These fonts featured the standard 8x8 pixel graphical character set for the ST (the main in-ROM "font" for GEM, and text-mode TOS operations in color modes) and contains a recognizable facsimile of the face of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs, (the figurehead of the Church of the Subgenius).

The FACT is.. (BOB) DobbsCoin is about Slack,
It's about FIGHTING The Conspiracy, and it's about getting BACK what THEY Stole away.
And if we just so happen to 'Survive The Great Cataclysms Through UFO Transport, while taking control through liberated weirdness by tapping our secret 'Abnormality Potential. ..then FUCK YES, I'll have TWO.


(1): 40 OZ OUNCES TO FREEDOM' CD initially/ltd. released with a Dobbshead on it. (no shit)(link1 (http://dobbscoin.info/images/sublime1.jpg)) (link2 (http://dobbscoin.info/images/sublime2.jpg)) (link3 (http://dobbscoin.info/images/sublime3.jpg)).
(2): Devo actively embraced the Church of the SubGenius in concert (source: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devo)). Mark Mothersbaugh of DEVO produced the audio for The Bobacatto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5wR8odaQfo), and you can watch him HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoAle6X4EJA) speaking on The Conspiracy, the life-changing power of "BOB" and Slack. (source: ARISE The SubGenius Movie : Polygram Video).
(3): Wilson also joined the Church of the SubGenius, who referred to him as Pope Bob. He contributed to their literature, including the book Three-Fisted Tales of "Bob", and shared a stage with their founder, Rev. Ivan Stang on several occasions Winterstar-01 (http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/fun/devivals/Winterstar-01/winterstar-01.html) & Austin, TX (http://subgenius.com/bigfist/pics13/RAW/index.html). Wilson also founded the Guns and Dope Party, and its corresponding Burning Man theme camp. See also: Historia Discordia (http://historiadiscordia.com/page/5)
(4): Patrick Volkerding, the software engineer known as the founder and maintainer of Slackware Linux distro, is a SubGenius. The use of the word Slack in "Slackware" is a homage to J. R. "Bob" Dobbs: "I'll admit that it was SubGenius inspired. In fact, back in the 2.0 through 3.0 days we used to print a dobbshead on each CD. (https://www.soldierx.com/category/Tags/Linux)" -Patrick Volkerding.
(5)Atari ST: Atari ST BASIC had a dobbshead easter egg (image (http://dobbscoin.info/images/ST_BASIC_-_J.R._Bob_Dobbs.gif))

Wow.  Just wow.  This reminds me of Sharknado movie for some reason.  Horrific to the point of being art.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: iGotSpots on August 22, 2014, 12:19:57 AM
Some of us are very against anonymous transactions


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: kbm on August 22, 2014, 12:27:59 AM
Some people here have actual learning difficulties:

... I have learning difficulties.  ;D

I admit, that I fall under that umbrella too! OP is right!


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: lemfuture on August 22, 2014, 12:32:22 AM
take a chill pill, don't generalize


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: esotericizm on August 22, 2014, 12:37:41 AM
I dont understand why people can't just generate a new address for each transaction if they want to remain semi-anonymous. Personally I think the next big leap would be a crypto that does the exact opposite of DRK as I could see that being a legitmate paypal rival.

The anon coins are digging themselves into a hole imo as there is no reliable way to cash out or buy a product while remaining anonymous. If a crypto cannot be used as a currency than the only interest in it will come from traders.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: noelmal on August 22, 2014, 12:46:01 AM
Come on OP stop letting reality get in the way of good crapcoin pumps  :o


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: danynx on August 22, 2014, 12:50:57 AM
so you are one of those too, since you are here   :D


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: defaced on August 22, 2014, 12:59:01 AM
Why use anon send when you can just chain jump :O That will continue to get easier as ALT liquidity increases.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: rdnkjdi on August 22, 2014, 01:41:15 AM
Why use anon send when you can just chain jump :O That will continue to get easier as ALT liquidity increases.

Alt liquidity is not increasing ...


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: esotericizm on August 22, 2014, 01:47:46 AM
Why use anon send when you can just chain jump :O That will continue to get easier as ALT liquidity increases.

Alt liquidity is not increasing ...

Prices for the major alts maybe dropping but the liquidity is still there you just have a larger selection of alts on exchanges to choose from :D


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: solstice on August 22, 2014, 01:49:39 AM
Some of us are very against anonymous transactions

It's the best that ever happened to crypto currency. Plenty of whales became even more rich because of it.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 22, 2014, 02:11:13 AM
OP is retarded

/thread

Maybe I need to elaborate. All the +1s to the OP make me sick.

People are quick to associate the need for anonymity with illegal or nefarious purposes. However, this is not the case and there are many reasons why a law abiding citizen could want privacy. Let me give you a couple examples (only a couple... I could literally sit here and give examples all night.) I realize these are extreme examples, but that is just so maybe they will convince you. There are many less extreme situations that anonymity could be useful.

Let's say you mom, daughter, or wife is real kinky. She wants to order this super new dildo that has 3 heads, spins, and twists in all sorts of directions. Let us also say that they have someone that doesn't like them. Everyone has at least one person that doesn't like you, right? Anyways.. This person is looking for a way to mess with your loved one, and they find out which Bitcoin address they use. They then see the transaction to an address associated with the sex shop, and using the price, match up which product was bought. They then e-bully your loved one, and tells everyone she knows she bought this dildo, to the point she is completely embarrassed and commits suicide. The non-anonymous transaction in a roundabout way just killed someone you love.

Let's say your 15 year old daughter thinks she may be pregnant. She buys a pregnancy test from an online version of planned parenthood and learns that she is. A smart and aggressive businessman running an online maternity store finds out what address planned parenthood uses to accept payments, and links the senders to their real identities using their pseudo anonymous Bitcoin address. They them send an advertisement through snail mail to your daughter for their maternity products saying "congratulations on your pregnancy, come buy stuff at our store." You her dad go to check the mail, like you do everyday, and find this advertisement in the mail. She had not told you she was pregnant yet, all he'll breaks loose when you confront her, and she gets so upset that she commits suicide. You just lost your daughter and grandchild due to a non-anonymous transaction and pseudo anonymous Bitcoin address. Maybe she could of told you in a better way and broke it to you easier.. or had more time to think about how to approach you and deal with you potential reaction.

No one ever thinks something like this will happen to them, but stuff like this does happen, and I bet if something like this does end up happening to you that you will wish that you supported more anonymous transactions and addresses.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: NapoleonBonaparte on August 22, 2014, 02:33:14 AM
OP is retarded

/thread

Maybe I need to elaborate. All the +1s to the OP make me sick.

People are quick to associate the need for anonymity with illegal or nefarious purposes. However, this is not the case and there are many reasons why a law abiding citizen could want privacy. Let me give you a couple examples (only a couple... I could literally sit here and give examples all night.) I realize these are extreme examples, but that is just so maybe they will convince you. There are many less extreme situations that anonymity could be useful.

Let's say you mom, daughter, or wife is real kinky. She wants to order this super new dildo that has 3 heads, spins, and twists in all sorts of directions. Let us also say that they have someone that doesn't like them. Everyone has at least one person that doesn't like you, right? Anyways.. This person is looking for a way to mess with your loved one, and they find out which Bitcoin address they use. They then see the transaction to an address associated with the sex shop, and using the price, match up which product was bought. They then e-bully your loved one, and tells everyone she knows she bought this dildo, to the point she is completely embarrassed and commits suicide. The non-anonymous transaction in a roundabout way just killed someone you love.

Let's say your 15 year old daughter thinks she may be pregnant. She buys a pregnancy test from an online version of planned parenthood and learns that she is. A smart and aggressive businessman running an online maternity store finds out what address planned parenthood uses to accept payments, and links the senders to their real identities using their pseudo anonymous Bitcoin address. They them send an advertisement through snail mail to your daughter for their maternity products saying "congratulations on your pregnancy, come buy stuff at our store." You her dad go to check the mail, like you do everyday, and find this advertisement in the mail. She had not told you she was pregnant yet, all he'll breaks loose when you confront her, and she gets so upset that she commits suicide. You just lost your daughter and grandchild due to a non-anonymous transaction and pseudo anonymous Bitcoin address. Maybe she could of told you in a better way and broke it to you easier.. or had more time to think about how to approach you and deal with you potential reaction.

No one ever thinks something like this will happen to them, but stuff like this does happen, and I bet if something like this does end up happening to you that you will wish that you supported more anonymous transactions and addresses.

People are getting too soft these days. I have no problem buying dildo as a guy or buy sex doll in full public view.

Still, anonymous coin won't be such a bad idea for privacy purpose.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 22, 2014, 02:58:48 AM

People are getting too soft these days. I have no problem buying dildo as a guy or buy sex doll in full public view.

Still, anonymous coin won't be such a bad idea for privacy purpose.

I agree

Let me give a couple more examples. Let's say your son or daughter is a famous movie star. Some creep is able to link their pseudo anonymous Bitcoin address to their identity. They then analyze his or her transactions and find out they frequent a certain coffee shop. They wait at that coffee shop for them, follow them out, wait until no ones around, and then the creep rapes and kills them.

Two companies are in the model train business, the model train business isn't doing so well, but one of the companies is doing a ton more business volume than the other. The one that is not doing so well creates a program to scan Bitcoin transactions going into the larger company and connect them to phone numbers or email addresses. He then calls or emails those customers offering a discount or "beat any price" deal and steals all of the larger companies customers. Or possibly you don't answer your phone or email, so they spam you until you do or you buy something from them.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 22, 2014, 03:08:43 AM
"Using multiple Bitcoin addresses" is not a sufficient solution to privacy issues, because you cannot expect people to help themselves. Some people don't even know how to use Bitcoin-qt, and leave their money sitting on coin base or an exchange just waiting to be hacked or stolen. I have told my mom numerous times she needs to move her Bitcoins off of Coinbase to a cold wallet. I have told her this more than 5 times. Some people are just not good with technology and maybe they are scared they will mess up and lose all their coins.

People like this... Do you really expect them to understand financial privacy implications and proper privacy procedures?? You really expect them to use multiple Bitcoin addresses for every transaction like they should?Even some people that know about privacy implications use the same Bitcoin address for everything. Just look at how many people have a Bitcoin address in their signature that they use for just about everything.

People that have not studied privacy and why it is important to law abiding citizens just don't understand, and most of them never will because they won't take the time to educate themselves. People are lazy and we need to protect these types of people from the bad things that can happen to them due to dumb/lazy privacy practices.

I think some people are too focused on their own self interests and making millions of dollars by investing in crypto currencies. They want to play nice with the government so everything goes smoothly and they can make their millions. Meanwhile, some people actually want what is best for this world and its citizens, and understand the implications of bad privacy practices. The other half are just uneducated on non nefarious reasons for financial privacy.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: HinnomTX on August 22, 2014, 03:17:08 AM
After reading CoinHoarder's posts, it has come to my attention, that not everyone here is retarded.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 22, 2014, 03:19:31 AM
After reading CoinHoarder's posts, it has come to my attention, that not everyone here is retarded.

*blushes*  :D


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: Spoetnik on August 22, 2014, 03:52:48 AM
THE. BEST. THING. I. EVER. READ. ON. BTC. TALK. 

Instead of getting attention for crypto, people are trying to hide it in the shadows.  No one is worried about the true problem with crypto.  It needs more attention.

I have been saying this every day since last year ..you guys just don't listen  ::)


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: SLVR4ME on August 22, 2014, 04:07:42 AM
After reading CoinHoarder's posts, it has come to my attention, that not everyone here is retarded.

*blushes*  :D

CoinHoarder should be a writer...i was glued to my screen reading each example, each one being more vivid than the previous.
Classic stuff


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 22, 2014, 05:26:44 AM
After reading CoinHoarder's posts, it has come to my attention, that not everyone here is retarded.

*blushes*  :D

CoinHoarder should be a writer...i was glued to my screen reading each example, each one being more vivid than the previous.
Classic stuff

Thank you, that is a very nice thing to say. I've received more compliments ITT than I have on these forums since I joined. :)

I am certain most people either hate me or think I'm an idiot. I stopped caring about what other people think a long time ago, but thank you for letting me know not everyone thinks that. ;D

I may come across as a dick sometimes, but it is only because I am passionate about crypto currencies and want to see them improved, developed, and adopted to their fullest potential. I am actually a very nice person IRL.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: spacelab on August 22, 2014, 06:09:18 AM

People are getting too soft these days. I have no problem buying dildo as a guy or buy sex doll in full public view.

Still, anonymous coin won't be such a bad idea for privacy purpose.

I agree

Let me give a couple more examples. Let's say your son or daughter is a famous movie star. Some creep is able to link their pseudo anonymous Bitcoin address to their identity. They then analyze his or her transactions and find out they frequent a certain coffee shop. They wait at that coffee shop for them, follow them out, wait until no ones around, and then the creep rapes and kills them.

Two companies are in the model train business, the model train business isn't doing so well, but one of the companies is doing a ton more business volume than the other. The one that is not doing so well creates a program to scan Bitcoin transactions going into the larger company and connect them to phone numbers or email addresses. He then calls or emails those customers offering a discount or "beat any price" deal and steals all of the larger companies customers. Or possibly you don't answer your phone or email, so they spam you until you do or you buy something from them.

And exactly how many layman have the tech savy skills to track their daughters dildo/pregnancy test purchases by following the addresses and tx id's? Most people have a hard time with online banking..nonetheless the latter... so i digress, perhaps this anon tech will sprout a new industry of hacker private investigators.

The model train analogy crashes when you realize that advertisement companies do this already with analytics when you visit websites/search for products.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: Kayex on August 22, 2014, 06:14:03 AM
If people wanted anonymity, couldn't they just mix their coins if they were that worried?
Why not add a vpn in there. That'll help a bit!


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 22, 2014, 06:32:03 AM
And exactly how many layman have the tech savy skills to track their daughters dildo/pregnancy test purchases by following the addresses and tx id's? Most people have a hard time with online banking..nonetheless the latter... so i digress, perhaps this anon tech will sprout a new industry of hacker private investigators.

The model train analogy crashes when you realize that advertisement companies do this already with analytics when you visit websites/search for products.

I admit my examples are pretty weak. The main point I was trying to make are that there are non nefarious reasons to want financial privacy, and not everyone wants to concede financial privacy to the government just to make millions of dollars. I will do some more brainstorming to provide better examples. :)

Not many laymen have the skills probably to track addresses, identities, and transactions, but it is certainly possible with a decent amount of success with a properly written algorithm. I know the government is working on such a block chain analysis algorithm, there has even been news articles about Yifu Guo working on it, and I'm sure others are/will as well.

You can query websites for addresses that can be tied to an identity, like bitcointalk profiles, signatures, OTC ratings, posts, etcetera. Then you can query the internet to tie those identities to real life identities. Then query businesses and payment processors to figure out which addresses they are using. Then you query the block chain for all transactions that person has made and analyze who they did business with, etcetera.

It may seem complicated (and it is), it will not work in all cases as people can thwart the algorithms, but I think it is possible to do with a decent success rate. I believe that someone will eventually write such a program and sell it or make it open sourced, THEN the laymen might be able to do it. Unless someone is trying to cover their tracks, but this to me is more about protecting the non tech savvy and/or non privacy savvy people.


Title: spare me tardlets..
Post by: Spoetnik on August 22, 2014, 06:49:09 AM
Coinhoarder can eat my shit.. i closed this topic already with my opinion (the correct one)
and where was he a week ago ?

i have been saying this shit for a fucking year 24/7 assfuckers ..i love the whole anti-scam coin trend hopping faggots around here
you were so all dead set against them you decided to speak out in the last month or two ?






































...... once your scam coin profits evaporated  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)

Your all a bunch of two faced fakers and if the markets picked up you would suck coin cloners cock clean off
and dive into your "presenting" position to take coin cloner cock in the ass..
spare me the fake ass concern for clone coins idiots i am not buying it.
where the fuck were you all in the last year EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY ?
Sucking coin cloner cock that is what ..blowing them and hyping scam coins for ANON gimmicks or what ever.


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: spacelab on August 22, 2014, 06:51:21 AM
Let me give a real world example.

If i were to sell 50 - 100 btc worth of cocain, and i received 100,000 cockcoin or dickcoin - i would lose alot of fucking profit dumping into those buy walls, Because lets face it, at the end of the day I want bitcoin...

Simply, these coins cannot scale to transactional use because the frequency of transactions in a niche black market [cloak, drk] is far less than the frequency of transactions that take place on a gray market [bitcoin]


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: spacelab on August 22, 2014, 06:55:26 AM
spoetnik, mileycyruscoin 4 lyfe??  8)


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: TamiLee on August 22, 2014, 07:01:26 AM
When you see a coin like wankcoin in the top 100 of coinmarketcap, you know something is wrong.lol


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: CoinHoarder on August 22, 2014, 07:04:20 AM
Let me give a real world example.

If i were to sell 50 - 100 btc worth of cocain, and i received 100,000 cockcoin or dickcoin - i would lose alot of fucking profit dumping into those buy walls, Because lets face it, at the end of the day I want bitcoin...

Simply, these coins cannot scale to transactional use because the frequency of transactions in a niche black market [cloak, drk] is far less than the frequency of transactions that take place on a gray market [bitcoin]

You may be correct right now in regards to liquidity, but if crypto currencies are more widely adopted in the future that very well could change. Even now.. take BitsharesX for example.. they had a volume of over 1 million USD today. Sure, it's much more volume than they are likely to have on any given day in the near future, but that is a lot of liquidity.

Anonymous features are not enough to get a crypto currency adopted and to get people to invest in it, you need some other improvements or features. This is what Bitshares did right with bitassets and Dpos, along with Titan (the anonymous feature). http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/TITAN

By adding more improvements/features, they can successfully bring in several types of users/investors:

People that like PoS
People that like financial privacy
People that see the value in bitassets
And perhaps people that see the value in 15 second confirmations

In summary... an anonymous feature does not have to be the only selling point of a crypto currency, which would certainly limit the scope of users/investors it can attract, and overtime as crypto currencies are adopted more widely liquidity will be improved across the board for all crypto currencies that are not "dead."


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on August 22, 2014, 07:26:29 AM
OP is retarded

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Okay, I almost have my head wrapped around the first line, but what does that slanted-line thingy in front of thread mean? And, why no pic of a cat to go with that thread?


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: cyberpinoy on August 22, 2014, 07:35:52 AM
   
It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.

Birds of a flock brother, and guess what you are here with the rest of us birds arent you??


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: DubFX on August 22, 2014, 07:41:14 AM
OP is retarded

/thread
Why would he be retarded it's true that people always create pump and dump altcoin instread of sticking to one project and it's caused mainly by that that they aren't skilled developers and they have only promises that become silent after coin gets pumped and dumped...tadam dev just does dissapear as he probably doesn't even know how to code that feautre.
People should stick to long running projests and support them, not these shitcoins. 


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: iGotSpots on August 22, 2014, 08:07:19 AM
Some of us are very against anonymous transactions

It's the best that ever happened to crypto currency. Plenty of whales became even more rich because of it.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but even the biggest crypto whales aren't shit in real world business and culture


Title: Re: It has come to my attention, that everyone here is retarded. Please Read.
Post by: nutildah on August 22, 2014, 08:16:37 AM
OP is retarded

/thread

Okay, I almost have my head wrapped around the first line, but what does that slanted-line thingy in front of thread mean? And, why no pic of a cat to go with that thread?

it means "end"

People should stick to long running projests and support them, not these shitcoins. 

Well said. I think most people are looking for the quick buck though. Hopefully the smart money will come home to the long-term, forward-thinking coins. But as things stand right now, the greed factor is outta control and can't be stopped.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but even the biggest crypto whales aren't shit in real world business and culture

So use your power and influence to manipulate the laws in your favor, problem solved. That's what's happening anyway so you should be pretty stoked.