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Hello,

I need to convert some of my coins to fiat now. I'm selling via Western Union (cash only, credit cards can be charged back), or bank wire. If by WU, you'll need to buy a min of 1BTC. I may consider other payment options (PP, Skrill) from established trusted members ONLY. These are just the quickest way I can think of... if you ask why not use LBC - I don't anymore after having 7btc (when they were over 1k) stolen from me. oh, I do have a Greendot money card... but they refuse to allow me to use the codes to load card (made deposits from codes from around the US; like that's any of their business anyway, but whatever). But I believe you can also do a money transfer directly from your card. I'm not familiar with this.

Conditions:

* All deals discussed in this thread (obviously not personal info; needed for bank wire I believe?)
* Coins sold at current exchange rate (we can use Coinbase) - I'm not trying to rape you
* Buy pays escrow - must be established member agreed upon by both of us
* We can discuss a discount if you buy more than one coin

Hope we can do business, thanks!

hello
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=273034.0
if you can sell call our live chat
we can pay by wu :)

I can arrange you Skrill or Neteller. If interested then PM ME.

My trust feedback. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=97213

Looking to buy 2 BTC at Bitstamp rate. PM me. I want to do this tonight.

Tonight is fine. So is Bitstamp's rate. Who do you have in mind for escrow?

I am interested - can only do Skrill -Neteller isn't avaible in the States. I'm not very familiar with Skrill's policy in terms of chargebacks. Can you please advise? Thanks!

Hi, Skrill don't chargeback easily, but there is some risk always if sender try. Mostly skrill chargeback when funded through Credit cards.
My fund from betting site so they don't do till there will be valid reason for them.

Skrill is far better then Paypal. Paypal mostly reverse the transaction after dispute but Skrill don't.

Okay kewl. Are you able to append a message, similar to paypal's invoice for Skrill? And how many did you want to buy and who do you want to use for escrow?

It's all depends which price you will sell me, I will buy 5-6 Now, and same amount in 1-2 days.

I don't mind using danny hamilton or escrow.ms.

I'll pay $375 for 0.7BTC

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I'll pay $375 for 0.7BTC
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Ok... What how do you want to buy, the method?

Ok... What how do you want to buy, the method?
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I'll pay you through WesternUnion. Send me your name, country and postal code/zipcode in PM

I'll pay you through WesternUnion. Send me your name, country and postal code/zipcode in PM
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I'm sorry, I'm not about to just drop my name and zipcode that easily. You don't need my name to send me cash to WU, I'll give you a pseudo name and password. Now who do you want to use for escrow? Or are you planning to just send me cash WU trusting that I'd send the coins? 

check your PM

I saw your offer, thanks. However, I lost BTC using a site like this before... the funds never arrived to my PP. I'm not saying it was your site, just similar service.

I can not go ahead to send my funds first, except you send your BTC and I pay you... Else, we use a trusted escrow

PM with teamy5892 posted below. This is why I've requested to conduct business in the thread. I doubt that teamy5892 intends to send $800 to the WU location - and as figured... he's requesting that I send him coins now.  


Not only is $800 way above the cost for 1.5btc, this buyer is requesting that I send first. I've also asked him who he intends to use for escrow (which only serves to protect him), and he's yet to answer that. I do not trust this user, and I will add appropriate feedback to his username. The last thing I'd want is for a seller who doesn't know any better to fall for this trick.

Are you also Payexchanger? I've asked you who you wanted to use for escrow. You ignored that question. And I'm not inexperienced here... I'm not about to send you btc first.

I understand, No problem

I don't expect for you to send first without escrow. I asked you who you'd like to use for escrow - you ignored it, and started trying to get me to send you coins first via PM. That's indicative of scammer behavior. I've updated your trust because I don't trust you so far. I will gladly remove the negative rating if this deal doesn't look like you were trying to scam me out of 1.5btc.

We will use escrow. I'll gladly send the coins to a trusted escrow member who will hold until it's confirmed I have the funds. The escrow member will then release the coins to you.

Why all the drama? Just sell it on https://localbitcoins.com/

I'm the only guy from www.payexchanger.com

thanks - it seems he just quoted the wrong post is all.

May I please have 2 btc at bitstamp rate?  (No discount)

NFCU cash deposit.  The location isn't exactly close to me, but most weekday mornings I should be able to swing by.

I will send (deposit) an amount first...maybe $100 or so to start, I've read enough where I am totally comfortable with that.  Maybe after the first transaction we go back and forth sending first until we reach somewhere around 2 btc exchanged, or however you're most comfortable.  I can provide receipts as well if necessary.

Mutual trust exchange at the end of the deal too please  :)

Thoughts?

Hi,

Yes, I'm good with that. I'll give you my access code when you're ready (isn't my bank account number)... That's your proof of deposit. Once I recieve I'll gladly send btc. Also, it would be in your best interest to find someone for escrow. I'm not going to scam you, but it's for your peace of mind.

Yes, I am very familiar with escrow, but like I mentioned I'm comfortable not using it for this trade.  I appreciate you reiterating it though, it shows good character.

Sure, if you can explain to me how the access code thing works, I'll kick things off, most likely tomorrow morning.

I have asked that you all post in this thread. There are all types of scams out there, so to protect myself - as well as to bring to light any attempted scams so we're all aware.

Here's PM log with ruggedman_dan. I'm not saying ruggedman_dan is a scammer or that he tried to scam me, but he's been suspected of taking MP funds from a user here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600079.0 That issue is still unresolved. Also it appears that he's done business with team8652 (positive feedback) who's also trying to get me to send first. The majority of ruggedman_dan's feedback are from new members - and there's no reference link for trades from members with positive feedback themselves. It didn't help that when I offered for him to send first he changed his mind.



I don't want to do a deal via PM, as stated in my original post. Please reach out to me in the open first. We can deal with the specifics via PM.

I will say this again - I will NOT go first. Please find someone to use for escrow. Please don't PM asking for me to go first. If so, I will post the PM here.

You would just go into a branch to make a deposit into the account. They'll give you a receipt that will have the number, the amount and date. I don't need the receipt - I'll know when it's been deposited. The receipt is just proof that you deposited funds in case I never send your coins - it's for your protection.

Ok, so you'll just PM me the info I need to make the deposit, correct?  I can PM the btc address to send to once you see it.

I'm not judging, but you're not trying to vamp up your trust are you? I took a scroll through your trust and that of your recent trade. It's pretty obvious what shdvb's up to. It doesn't help that you felt the need to remind me to give you positive trust:


It's just odd that originally you wanted 2BTC first, now just in $100 increments? Since the location isn't all that close to you, it might be best to use WU, just saying.

Don't do the trust thing then... I'm not worried about that, since you are now raising an issue with it.

shdvb is a verified and trustworthy exchanger in this forum, you would be wise to not dispute that fact.  He runs bunnycredits.com.

There is nothing odd about me wanting to trade in smaller increments, especially if I send first.  Remember, I posted my offer here in your thread, and you acknowledged it.

If you have now decided that you don't want to trade or are having second thoughts, I have no issues with that either.

EDIT:  I forgot to comment on WU... that's way too expensive for this trade, I'm not interested in the WU fee.  It would be much more cost-effective for me to go a mile out of my way and just make deposits.

I tell you what, to put your mind at ease, maybe this would be a better offer...

How about I make a USPS money order for the price of the entire 2 btc.  I then contact Danny Hamilton (escrow), I pay any fees (or tips) as they may be.

Danny Hamilton's thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254369.0;all

That way you get the entire amount in one lump sum, and I prove that I'm bringing you a legit offer...and give you "peace of mind" you referred to earlier...

EDIT:  Left message in his thread, hoping that he can help us out with this.

Sorry was away for a bit... it would put my mind as ease :)  thanks. Just out of curiosity... how much is western union anyway?

It's all good Cris.  Like I mentioned in PM I realize you've had a lot of interesting things happen, I do completely understand why your guard is up.

On a thousand bucks, the fee is $86 for same day pickup, or $60 for 3-day pickup (yuck).

Just know that I'm here and ready to buy 2 btc from you, through escrow is perfectly fine.

EDIT:  You know what is ironic... it only costs $14 in WU fees to send to China for same-day service, which makes trading with shdvb very cost-effective.

good lord, I didn't realize WU was so costly!

Yes mam, and now you can see why buying btc in $100/$200/etc portions from you via NFCU made/makes perfect sense  ;D  (Why should I worry about the seller getting me, if I KNOW that WU is going to get me  lol...)

EDIT:  On the other hand, I could care less about the ~$2 it costs to whip up a USPS money order, if you prefer one of those.  :D

I'm away for the next ?? hours, feel free to PM me or post and I'll respond as soon as possible.

Holy smokes .......Sorry for trolling your thread, but I was also not aware, that the fees was that high!

No wonder people are complaining and using BTC for this now... Modern Day light robbery.  >:(

I see in the following post that you are leaving bitcointalk and selling your account:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756093.0

Since you are leaving the forum, does that mean that you are no longer selling those bitcoins?

I've had a few people ask me to hold escrow for the transaction, but I don't want to waste time writing up escrow agreements if you are no longer going to be participating in the transaction.

Thanks Danny, I didn't realize that there were some other conflicts going on here.

I'll let the dust settle and check back in for any new developments  ;D

Thanks for taking the time to work on this one.

Okay, I'm here. I can still do business; feedback left on my actual account of course. When my 3 day ban is over, I'll log in to leave feedback.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756093

Sent you a few questions via PM, to your CrissyCris account.

Thanks.  It turned out that it actually is/was her, but the deal pretty much evaporated.   ;)

It's all good though, no harm no foul.

Time to let this thread fade away...