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Title: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on April 11, 2012, 07:44:31 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/kutcher-among-early-investors-in-iowa-based-flat-fee-payments-startup-dwolla/2012/04/11/gIQAyfBmAT_story.html

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Actor Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla, an Iowa tech startup that lets users transfer money or pay for things through their smartphones or online for a flat fee of 25 cents per transaction.

The “Two and a Half Men” star didn’t disclose the size of the investment his venture capital company made in Dwolla, which is hoping to lure customers seeking an alternative to the percentage-based fees typical of credit card purchases and other online payment methods.

I like have to say is...eh


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Aggro on April 11, 2012, 07:48:02 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/kutcher-among-early-investors-in-iowa-based-flat-fee-payments-startup-dwolla/2012/04/11/gIQAyfBmAT_story.html

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Actor Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla, an Iowa tech startup that lets users transfer money or pay for things through their smartphones or online for a flat fee of 25 cents per transaction.

The “Two and a Half Men” star didn’t disclose the size of the investment his venture capital company made in Dwolla, which is hoping to lure customers seeking an alternative to the percentage-based fees typical of credit card purchases and other online payment methods.

I like have to say is...eh

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA ... the comedy ... by the way 2 1/2 men suck without your homonymous :D.


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on April 11, 2012, 08:02:39 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/kutcher-among-early-investors-in-iowa-based-flat-fee-payments-startup-dwolla/2012/04/11/gIQAyfBmAT_story.html

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Actor Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla, an Iowa tech startup that lets users transfer money or pay for things through their smartphones or online for a flat fee of 25 cents per transaction.

The “Two and a Half Men” star didn’t disclose the size of the investment his venture capital company made in Dwolla, which is hoping to lure customers seeking an alternative to the percentage-based fees typical of credit card purchases and other online payment methods.

I like have to say is...eh

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA ... the comedy ... by the way 2 1/2 men suck without your homonymous :D.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/kelso-burn.jpg


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: SgtSpike on April 11, 2012, 08:12:06 PM
Which means the real question is, how many Bitcoins does Ashton have?


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on April 11, 2012, 08:16:47 PM
Which means the real question is, how many Bitcoins does Ashton have?

I seriously wonder if he even knows Bitcoins involvement in Dwolla's success.

Btw, at Future of Money next week during my presentation, I plan on revealing to the public how much of Dwolla's success was attributed to Bitcoin


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: bbit on April 11, 2012, 08:18:30 PM
I saw one of their interviews with Mr. Ashton and Ben  they seriously make Dwolla seem like the next best thing since slicebread.  Ashton sounds like a moron!

edit: I should qualify my statement about Mr. Ashton  - they were rambling on about how Dwolla takes out the costs of Fraud or something...I was like huh lol...


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: BitPay Business Solutions on April 11, 2012, 08:22:01 PM
Btw, at Future of Money next week during my presentation, I plan on revealing to the public how much of Dwolla's success was attributed to Bitcoin

YES!  I will make sure I sit near Ben Milne and get video of his reacton.



Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: MelMan2002 on April 11, 2012, 08:23:24 PM
Btw, at Future of Money next week during my presentation, I plan on revealing to the public how much of Dwolla's success was attributed to Bitcoin

YES!  I will make sure I sit near Ben Milne and get video of his reacton.



Hehe - that'll make him squirm in his seat :)


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: bbit on April 11, 2012, 08:23:51 PM
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Btw, at Future of Money next week during my presentation, I plan on revealing to the public how much of Dwolla's success was attributed to Bitcoin

+1 beautiful!  ;D


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: jimbobway on April 11, 2012, 08:30:33 PM
Btw, at Future of Money next week during my presentation, I plan on revealing to the public how much of Dwolla's success was attributed to Bitcoin

YES!  I will make sure I sit near Ben Milne and get video of his reacton.



Oh yea!  We need 30 iphone cameras so we can do a 360 degree Matrix style rotation face reaction from Ben Milne.

Seriously, Dwolla's success is based on bitcoin and this has been hidden from investors including the latest round and Ashton.


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on April 11, 2012, 08:31:47 PM
Btw, at Future of Money next week during my presentation, I plan on revealing to the public how much of Dwolla's success was attributed to Bitcoin

YES!  I will make sure I sit near Ben Milne and get video of his reacton.


Now THAT my friend...would go viral! Make sure to get some shots of Jered smiling and giving his thumbs up

EDIT:

Ok, I just found out there is a private 'meet and greet' for speakers. That means Jered, Ben and myself will be in an even smaller room together the night before


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: jimbobway on April 11, 2012, 08:53:45 PM
Ok, here is the evidence which you will need to show Dwolla rise coincides with Bitcoin's rise:

http://blog.dwolla.com/infographic-1mm-per-day-in-transactions-and-counting/

http://www.dwolla.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dwolla-growth-sm.png

And the correlation with bitcoin using Google Trends by month:

http://www.google.com/trends/?q=bitcoin&ctab=0&geo=all&date=2011&sort=0


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on April 11, 2012, 08:58:56 PM
Ok, here is the evidence which you will need to show Dwolla rise coincides with Bitcoin's rise:

http://blog.dwolla.com/infographic-1mm-per-day-in-transactions-and-counting/

http://www.dwolla.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dwolla-growth-sm.png

And the correlation with bitcoin using Google Trends by month:

http://www.google.com/trends/?q=bitcoin&ctab=0&geo=all&date=2011&sort=0

Dude, totally gonna overlay these charts in my presentation, thanks!


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: MyBitcoinMint on April 11, 2012, 09:00:00 PM
Wow, wish I could see this in person. Guess a good youtube video will have to do...best of luck Bitcoin'ers!


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Raize on April 11, 2012, 09:42:43 PM
I will pay 10 BTC for a video of his reaction. I want a raw copy though, not just a Youtube link. I'm working on a project to remedy my early endorsement of Dwolla for Bitcoiners in its infancy and this video would help.


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: evoorhees on April 12, 2012, 12:53:09 AM

Fixed the graphic for accuracy  ;D  You can use this high-res version, Charlie.

https://i.imgur.com/rZM1Y.gif


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on April 12, 2012, 03:33:40 AM

Fixed the graphic for accuracy  ;D  You can use this high-res version, Charlie.


Thats why you get paid the big bux  ;)


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 12, 2012, 03:46:32 AM
Don't pay evoorhees yet, for one more thing needs to be added to that great chart to make it more greater (sic)--the point where Dwolla no longer needs Bitcoin/Tradehill (or Tradehill/Bitcoin).

~Bruno~


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Raize on April 20, 2012, 01:09:31 AM
Sgornick was offering to trade Bitcoin for Dwolla dollars during their January promotion where if you followed them on Twitter they gave you a free $1, I think. And Keefe was accepting Dwolla money for transfers into MtGox as well, I remember I moved my first $500 via his Dwolla account back in mid-February. I think the "explosion" period was around the time that MtGox and Tradehill starting accepting it.


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Raoul Duke on April 20, 2012, 01:49:32 AM
I have a feeling Ben Milne will have last minute problems and won't be able to attend... ya know, just like those DJ's that never show up...


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 20, 2012, 06:56:53 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/kutcher-among-early-investors-in-iowa-based-flat-fee-payments-startup-dwolla/2012/04/11/gIQAyfBmAT_story.html
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“The potential for Dwolla is to be the backbone for the global financial exchange. Because it’s built to do that. It’s built better than any system that currently exists.”

BRB! Goin' to take a hit, then reread that quote.

Back! Yep, it's still there.

Carry on.

~Bruno~


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: check_status on April 20, 2012, 09:21:30 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/kutcher-among-early-investors-in-iowa-based-flat-fee-payments-startup-dwolla/2012/04/11/gIQAyfBmAT_story.html
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“The potential for Dwolla is to be the backbone for the global financial exchange. Because it’s built to do that. It’s built better than any system that currently exists.”

BRB! Goin' to take a hit, then reread that quote.

Back! Yep, it's still there.

Carry on.

~Bruno~

LOL


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 20, 2012, 10:53:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RR7kRXWQo2I#t=957s

Did Ashton major in fuzzy math? I can't figure out the math here. First he says that the average restaurants makes $70,000 gross profit (his words). But only 3% of that is net profits. The credit cards charge 3.6% of the gross sales, cutting into that profit. With Dwolla, the restaurants can now double their profits.

Watch the video (timestamped) to see if you can make heads or tails of what's he's trying to relay.

~Bruno~


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: cbeast on April 20, 2012, 12:23:26 PM
Dwolla is a roach motel. It's not FDIC insured. It's just a matter of time before it is hacked.


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: SgtSpike on April 20, 2012, 03:51:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RR7kRXWQo2I#t=957s

Did Ashton major in fuzzy math? I can't figure out the math here. First he says that the average restaurants makes $70,000 gross profit (his words). But only 3% of that is net profits. The credit cards charge 3.6% of the gross sales, cutting into that profit. With Dwolla, the restaurants can now double their profits.

Watch the video (timestamped) to see if you can make heads or tails of what's he's trying to relay.

~Bruno~

Makes sense to me.

$70,000 gross profits = 3% means that total revenue for the average restaurant would be $70,000/3% = ~$2.3M.  And if they could chop 3.6% of expenses due to no longer using credit cards, then their total gross profits would rise to 6.6% of ~$2.3M, or $152,000.  Hence, they could double their profits if they could get rid of those pesky CC fees.


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 20, 2012, 05:40:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RR7kRXWQo2I#t=957s

Did Ashton major in fuzzy math? I can't figure out the math here. First he says that the average restaurants makes $70,000 gross profit (his words). But only 3% of that is net profits. The credit cards charge 3.6% of the gross sales, cutting into that profit. With Dwolla, the restaurants can now double their profits.

Watch the video (timestamped) to see if you can make heads or tails of what's he's trying to relay.

~Bruno~

Makes sense to me.

$70,000 gross profits = 3% means that total revenue for the average restaurant would be $70,000/3% = ~$2.3M.  And if they could chop 3.6% of expenses due to no longer using credit cards, then their total gross profits would rise to 6.6% of ~$2.3M, or $152,000.  Hence, they could double their profits if they could get rid of those pesky CC fees.

Does your equation take into consideration that Ashton was talking about $70,000 gross profit per MONTH (not year)?

~Bruno~


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: SgtSpike on April 20, 2012, 05:46:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RR7kRXWQo2I#t=957s

Did Ashton major in fuzzy math? I can't figure out the math here. First he says that the average restaurants makes $70,000 gross profit (his words). But only 3% of that is net profits. The credit cards charge 3.6% of the gross sales, cutting into that profit. With Dwolla, the restaurants can now double their profits.

Watch the video (timestamped) to see if you can make heads or tails of what's he's trying to relay.

~Bruno~

Makes sense to me.

$70,000 gross profits = 3% means that total revenue for the average restaurant would be $70,000/3% = ~$2.3M.  And if they could chop 3.6% of expenses due to no longer using credit cards, then their total gross profits would rise to 6.6% of ~$2.3M, or $152,000.  Hence, they could double their profits if they could get rid of those pesky CC fees.

Does your equation take into consideration that Ashton was talking about $70,000 gross profit per MONTH (not year)?

~Bruno~

Doesn't really matter what timeframe is being talked about.  $70,000 profit is 3% of $2.3M revenue per month or per year or per decade or per day.  It's the same calculation regardless.


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 20, 2012, 06:13:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RR7kRXWQo2I#t=957s

Did Ashton major in fuzzy math? I can't figure out the math here. First he says that the average restaurants makes $70,000 gross profit (his words). But only 3% of that is net profits. The credit cards charge 3.6% of the gross sales, cutting into that profit. With Dwolla, the restaurants can now double their profits.

Watch the video (timestamped) to see if you can make heads or tails of what's he's trying to relay.

~Bruno~

Makes sense to me.

$70,000 gross profits = 3% means that total revenue for the average restaurant would be $70,000/3% = ~$2.3M.  And if they could chop 3.6% of expenses due to no longer using credit cards, then their total gross profits would rise to 6.6% of ~$2.3M, or $152,000.  Hence, they could double their profits if they could get rid of those pesky CC fees.

Does your equation take into consideration that Ashton was talking about $70,000 gross profit per MONTH (not year)?

~Bruno~

Doesn't really matter what timeframe is being talked about.  $70,000 profit is 3% of $2.3M revenue per month or per year or per decade or per day.  It's the same calculation regardless.

The point I was trying to make early on was that Ashton misspoke. The $70,000 is gross sales, not gross profit. Then he mentions the term net profits. He and his investment team is investing in companies, but gets the three basic terms confused: gross; net; profit. During the interview at that point, I was watching Ben's reaction, and it looked like he at least knew the difference. He probably opted to not correct Ashton for he may be able to use his assumed lack of basic accounting to his (Ben) advantage down the road. Do the Dwolla comes to mind.

Also, the average restaurant does not gross $2.3M in sales per month or year.

~Bruno~


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: SgtSpike on April 20, 2012, 06:31:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RR7kRXWQo2I#t=957s

Did Ashton major in fuzzy math? I can't figure out the math here. First he says that the average restaurants makes $70,000 gross profit (his words). But only 3% of that is net profits. The credit cards charge 3.6% of the gross sales, cutting into that profit. With Dwolla, the restaurants can now double their profits.

Watch the video (timestamped) to see if you can make heads or tails of what's he's trying to relay.

~Bruno~

Makes sense to me.

$70,000 gross profits = 3% means that total revenue for the average restaurant would be $70,000/3% = ~$2.3M.  And if they could chop 3.6% of expenses due to no longer using credit cards, then their total gross profits would rise to 6.6% of ~$2.3M, or $152,000.  Hence, they could double their profits if they could get rid of those pesky CC fees.

Does your equation take into consideration that Ashton was talking about $70,000 gross profit per MONTH (not year)?

~Bruno~

Doesn't really matter what timeframe is being talked about.  $70,000 profit is 3% of $2.3M revenue per month or per year or per decade or per day.  It's the same calculation regardless.

The point I was trying to make early on was that Ashton misspoke. The $70,000 is gross sales, not gross profit. Then he mentions the term net profits. He and his investment team is investing in companies, but gets the three basic terms confused: gross; net; profit. During the interview at that point, I was watching Ben's reaction, and it looked like he at least knew the difference. He probably opted to not correct Ashton for he may be able to use his assumed lack of basic accounting to his (Ben) advantage down the road. Do the Dwolla comes to mind.

Also, the average restaurant does not gross $2.3M in sales per month or year.

~Bruno~
See, I have no idea how much a restaurant generally takes in, so questioning that number didn't even come into my mind.  :p


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Raoul Duke on April 20, 2012, 06:49:11 PM
Ben Milne is going to pull-a-dwolla on Ashton...

And I predicted it first! ;D


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 20, 2012, 06:56:28 PM
Ben Milne is going to pull-a-dwolla on Ashton...

And I predicted it first! ;D

Not to take away your thunder, but that's what I meant--pull-a-dwolla not do a dwolla. Good call!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RR7kRXWQo2I#t=957s

Did Ashton major in fuzzy math? I can't figure out the math here. First he says that the average restaurants makes $70,000 gross profit (his words). But only 3% of that is net profits. The credit cards charge 3.6% of the gross sales, cutting into that profit. With Dwolla, the restaurants can now double their profits.

Watch the video (timestamped) to see if you can make heads or tails of what's he's trying to relay.

~Bruno~

Makes sense to me.

$70,000 gross profits = 3% means that total revenue for the average restaurant would be $70,000/3% = ~$2.3M.  And if they could chop 3.6% of expenses due to no longer using credit cards, then their total gross profits would rise to 6.6% of ~$2.3M, or $152,000.  Hence, they could double their profits if they could get rid of those pesky CC fees.

Does your equation take into consideration that Ashton was talking about $70,000 gross profit per MONTH (not year)?

~Bruno~

Doesn't really matter what timeframe is being talked about.  $70,000 profit is 3% of $2.3M revenue per month or per year or per decade or per day.  It's the same calculation regardless.

The point I was trying to make early on was that Ashton misspoke. The $70,000 is gross sales, not gross profit. Then he mentions the term net profits. He and his investment team is investing in companies, but gets the three basic terms confused: gross; net; profit. During the interview at that point, I was watching Ben's reaction, and it looked like he at least knew the difference. He probably opted to not correct Ashton for he may be able to use his assumed lack of basic accounting to his (Ben) advantage down the road. Do the Dwolla comes to mind.

Also, the average restaurant does not gross $2.3M in sales per month or year.

~Bruno~
See, I have no idea how much a restaurant generally takes in, so questioning that number didn't even come into my mind.  :p

I hope you my comments in replying to you didn't come across as rude, SgtSpike.

~Bruno~


Title: Re: Ashton Kutcher is among the early investors in Dwolla
Post by: SgtSpike on April 20, 2012, 06:58:10 PM
Ben Milne is going to pull-a-dwolla on Ashton...

And I predicted it first! ;D

Not to take away your thunder, but that's what I meant--pull-a-dwolla not do a dwolla. Good call!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RR7kRXWQo2I#t=957s

Did Ashton major in fuzzy math? I can't figure out the math here. First he says that the average restaurants makes $70,000 gross profit (his words). But only 3% of that is net profits. The credit cards charge 3.6% of the gross sales, cutting into that profit. With Dwolla, the restaurants can now double their profits.

Watch the video (timestamped) to see if you can make heads or tails of what's he's trying to relay.

~Bruno~

Makes sense to me.

$70,000 gross profits = 3% means that total revenue for the average restaurant would be $70,000/3% = ~$2.3M.  And if they could chop 3.6% of expenses due to no longer using credit cards, then their total gross profits would rise to 6.6% of ~$2.3M, or $152,000.  Hence, they could double their profits if they could get rid of those pesky CC fees.

Does your equation take into consideration that Ashton was talking about $70,000 gross profit per MONTH (not year)?

~Bruno~

Doesn't really matter what timeframe is being talked about.  $70,000 profit is 3% of $2.3M revenue per month or per year or per decade or per day.  It's the same calculation regardless.

The point I was trying to make early on was that Ashton misspoke. The $70,000 is gross sales, not gross profit. Then he mentions the term net profits. He and his investment team is investing in companies, but gets the three basic terms confused: gross; net; profit. During the interview at that point, I was watching Ben's reaction, and it looked like he at least knew the difference. He probably opted to not correct Ashton for he may be able to use his assumed lack of basic accounting to his (Ben) advantage down the road. Do the Dwolla comes to mind.

Also, the average restaurant does not gross $2.3M in sales per month or year.

~Bruno~
See, I have no idea how much a restaurant generally takes in, so questioning that number didn't even come into my mind.  :p

I hope you my comments in replying to you didn't come across as rude, SgtSpike.

~Bruno~

Not at all Bruno!