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Tired of being scammed and losing to bots, how do I most effectively scam people?

Best New post in awhile.  I would like to know this as well.

Start to learn from those scammers and bots :)

learn to code.

That is what escrow are for. Always use escrow and you would be good..

Yes. To be a big time scammer, you need to know how to code and come up with new coin/ipo every few weeks and hope one coin will hit big.

To be a really really big time scammer, you will need to know law as well. And in your ipo agreement, make sure you list all the risks and let the investors know if you can not deliver, you will not be on the hook for running a fraud scheme.

Ummm, how about being a productive member of the community and work to squash scammers?


Of course, that response is if you are being serious about learning to scam  ::).

Start your very own coin with a significant pre-mine.

I think there are some generic starter kits out there you can find. You could certainly hire a dev that could do it.  Design a logo and come up with a catchy name, something that can be abbreviated with lots of lesser-used letters...get a "Q" in there for sure.  Get somebody semi-famous on your team in exchange for some initial coins. 

Pimp it.  Sell it.  Laugh all the way to the bank.

Bots don't make you lose, you make you lose  :D

Use your brain, might be helpful. If you act only with your feelings you'll loose a lose a lot of money. Your choice my friend.
You need to read, learn, do mistake and learn from them.

real trading skills trumps all period.

when you have talent at being an honest trader none of it matters.
for example i started side stepping the agravating bots last year and since have made plenty profit.
NEVER needing to use any deceptive or dishonest tactics or having to given to joining scam coin launches like AUR.

scammers and their supporters and bots users etc are lazy loser with no talent and skill at market trading.
they are useless lazy pathetic leeches who wish they had real skills.

trust me take my word for it.. you will slay all the dumb ass bullshit in your path being a good crypto member of the community.
for one thing doors will open up to you hidden to others simply because people feel they cam trust you and want your participation.
solid genuine and sincere people wanting to invest in the future of legit crypto coins are in demand.
being a positive member of the community attracts other positive things / opportunities..

having trade skills is the only option or your going to get burned eventually it's just a matter of time.
focus all your effort on having a large toolkit for all circumstances.. and be a good person in crypto when no one is looking ;)

for example if you want to invest in a coin because your sure its going to double in value soon then some bots mean nothing.
you just side step them and but what ever you want etc.. who cares they don't stop me that is for sure lol
Only reason people don't like bots is because your trying to play "their game" for profit.. and THAT is your mistake right there !

bots are leeches who sniff around looking for crumbs like wringing out a kitchen cloth for another drop of water.. leeches !
i say ignore them and hope the guys using them go broke LOL

If you want to scam people, ask RS (aka RealSolid) for private lessons.  ;D  ;D

Read the ANN threads, over half a scams, see how it's done.

Haha

First send each poster in this thread 10 BTC.  Then each person will reveal their secrets.

Seriously though, find a skill and use it to create instead of trying to scam.  Be a positive influence instead of a negative one.

I did like the Mt Gox suggestion above though, quite funny.

A rational choice is to walk away rather than scamming other.

Karma will never be kind to thief.

Lol, i hope you are just trolling...

Either be a confidence trickster, or a programmer, or both. With a bit of capital you could fund your scamming efforts by hiring legitimate developers to do your work, then you can put your plan into action.

The only reason I'm telling you this is because it's already happening for many of the coins new coins you see. The best scams are the ones nobody even realises are a scam until they've got 100s, if not 1000s of BTC.

If you think selling your integrity and making decisions that will be with you for the rest of your life for some short team capital is worth it, then join the rather over-saturated market of scammers. I'm sure they'll welcome you with open arms, and stab you in the back. Because can one scammer really trust another scammer?

launch coin with IPO and moolah escrow... guaranteed scam & profit

This sad situation is pretty much completely the alt-coin communities fault.

You want to know why there are so few honest developers in the crypto-coin scene?

The community only rewards the dishonest developers and scam artists PERIOD.

Look at the amount of coin THROWN at IPOs. IPOs in themselves are not necessarily scams, but they are very effective tools for the scam artists.

Syscoin.....the equivalent of 3/4 of a MILLION dollars (1500 BTC * 500 = 750,000)

REALLY??

I provided a service for over two years that was widely used and at one point was getting over 1.5 million hits a week. Over that time period I got enough donations for maybe a cup of coffee every few months.

I basically paid in both time and money for the "honor" of providing the service. This is why it is now a paid service with no more "non-donation" funding.

I have other projects in the works now, but after seeing the whole syscoin thing, I am ready just to give up. Many of my honest developer peers are no longer on the scene. Notice how many of the original devs from a couple of years ago no longer frequent this place? Can't imagine why that is.  ::)

It would be easy for me to flip the switch and go to the "dark" side so to speak, but that is not who I am.


Well it was nice to vent, too bad it will change nothing. You will still throw money at the scam artists and give the honest developers the shaft.

Until the community decides to start supporting the core services and foundation building for the crypto coin world,instead of only supporting those who appeal to your greed, you will continue to get what you deserve.

totally this!
The scammed ones keep the scams going. Ipo, ico, presale anyone?
Why do people pump premined coins and cry when they get dumped on and are left with abandoned coins? There are good coins out there with no premine, consistent developement/maintaining and so on. They are under value big times.

Only because a coin is new doesn't give it value. But people will need some more time to understand that.

Concerning the bot-problem: close the spread with a tiny bid and most of them are gone ... life can be so easy ;)

People are easy to throw money at pumps & dumps, fake innovations and outright scams if manipulated properly. They are not easy to support actual development even if they hold a significant share of a particular coin. Some day these honest coin developers realise their work is stolen simply by those bagholders who don't contribute anything useful. They slow down or even give up.

Dont learn how to code, thats just waste of time.

Learn how to effectively write what your coin will be able to do, then collect IPO money and do it again.

Really no need to make any new coin, that takes time and knowledge in which case you could probably find a good paying job and where are you then? Working again. So try to do at least work as you can, that is most profitable.

Also, learn how to do very good logo contest, that will add a lot to your credibility.

If you want my money too, make a coin's web page with a lot of naked women, I will throw some at you then and I am not alone in this!

Is he a "motivational speaker" yet? ;)

For the same reason why so many poker newbies end up blowing their wads. If you're a fool, or if you vainly fancy yourself to be a clever game-theory kind of fellow, this here Wild Wild West is a cruel teacher.

And it continues.....

About 1.2 MILLION dollars (2500 BTC) to the supernet ICO..IPO..whatever.

The lead has been on the forum for about ten months and refused full disclosure of his identification to the first exchange he approached with the ICO/IPO.

I have completely lost faith.... Why should I care or even bother anymore?

Working my ass off to bring some new concepts to market, but being conservative about it and not asking for investment funds.

Might as well come up with a cool name, start up an IPO, have tech difficulties the first day ....and Profit!!!!

Does anybody on this forum have one lick of sense? anybody ???

Not unless they've had a few or more hard lessons that have whacked their pocketbooks. Like I have, I must admit.

If it's any help, please remember how sheltered we all are in the Big-Government First World. By 19th century standards, we're all fools: many of us shockingly so to a real Old Westerner. Unfortunately, the bulk of us need the old School of Hard Knocks to whack some old-fashioned sense into us.

It is simple. Don't invest much money in new cryptocurrence. You always can lost all your money.

I don't buy coin IPOs and don't care about them. I can day trade these coins for a quick profit, but that's all. High risk means high yields, no sentiments when they go down the drain.

There is already a thread complaining about big problems at the start of the IPO.

Is the alt-coin scene an extremely high risk environment??  absolutely!! There is nothing wrong with that, it comes with the territory of an emerging market.

Will some win and even more lose? Yep, comes with the territory.

The issue I am addressing is how the community is getting weaker through its greed and virtual non-support of honest developers. It was not always like this.
Now greed has become the absolute driving factor with people literally throwing money at anybody that promises them the moon while the whole foundation of development falls out from beneath the community.

If the community continues to GROSSLY fund questionable developments and outright scams, that is all the community is going to have. The pool of honest developers is getting smaller and smaller and I fear it may get one smaller soon. Most of those active on the forums today probably do not know who I am. I have been merging more and more in the background as the community bobsleds into the monster it is becoming. Thing is, I have been here and developing for years and so few of my peers seem to have remained.

I guess it feels good to vent, I only wish the the shrinking group I am in could find a way to stem the tide. It is just so difficult to compete against the glittering lights and promises of fortunes that community members old and new seem to fall more into with larger sums of capital.

Maybe we just have to wait until it all implodes..I certainly hope it does not come to that.