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Title: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: RocketSingh on September 08, 2014, 10:26:17 PM
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Dear Satoshi. Your dox, passwords and IP addresses are being sold on the darknet. Apparently you didn't configure Tor properly and your IP leaked when you used your email account sometime in 2010. You are not safe. You need to get out of where you are as soon as possible before these people harm you. Thank you for inventing Bitcoin.

Source: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A55276&xg_source=activity


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on September 08, 2014, 10:30:50 PM
it appears you have Satoshi's login to his p2p account

this is all im getting from the way back machine

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?xg_source=activity&id=2003008%3ATopic%3A9402&page=1#comments


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: BitCoinDream on September 08, 2014, 10:37:15 PM
it appears you have Satoshi's login to his p2p account

this is all im getting from the way back machine

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?xg_source=activity&id=2003008%3ATopic%3A9402&page=1#comments

The comment was made exactly 9 minutes ago. Wayback machine wont index so quick.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on September 08, 2014, 10:44:57 PM
it appears you have Satoshi's login to his p2p account

this is all im getting from the way back machine

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?xg_source=activity&id=2003008%3ATopic%3A9402&page=1#comments

The comment was made exactly 9 minutes ago. Wayback machine wont index so quick.

this account said on march 7 he is not Dorian

http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186


 Reply by Satoshi Nakamoto on March 7, 2014 at 1:17

    I am not Dorian Nakamoto.


thats funny its the same date as the wayback machine record


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: keithers on September 08, 2014, 10:46:06 PM
I am sort of confused, are we thinking that the same person compromised both of his accounts?   So the person who compromised his account, wrote a message to Satoshi from Satoshi's own account, or is that message to Satoshi from someone else?


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on September 08, 2014, 10:47:40 PM
why would anyone have wanted to hack his account back in 2010 sounds like he has been pretty famous for a while


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: BitCoinDream on September 08, 2014, 10:51:33 PM
I am sort of confused, are we thinking that the same person compromised both of his accounts?   So the person who compromised his account, wrote a message to Satoshi from Satoshi's own account, or is that message to Satoshi from someone else?

Why on earth Satoshi will give a message to Satoshi himself ? Its crystal clear that the account is compromised.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: Winner on September 08, 2014, 10:53:20 PM
lol waiting for that bitcoin dump..


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: leannemckim46 on September 08, 2014, 10:57:23 PM
I am sort of confused, are we thinking that the same person compromised both of his accounts?   So the person who compromised his account, wrote a message to Satoshi from Satoshi's own account, or is that message to Satoshi from someone else?
If someone is selling his information, the person behind the p2pfoundation account could have only purchased the email credentials to warn him.

I personally think it is just someone spreading FUD about bitcoin. Even if satoshi's IP address was leaked, ISPs do not keep logs this long to be able to link his identity to his IP address.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: keithers on September 08, 2014, 10:58:51 PM
I am sort of confused, are we thinking that the same person compromised both of his accounts?   So the person who compromised his account, wrote a message to Satoshi from Satoshi's own account, or is that message to Satoshi from someone else?

Why on earth Satoshi will give a message to Satoshi himself ? Its crystal clear that the account is compromised.

Yes that part is obvious, but why would someone who compromised his account, send a message to himself either?


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: BitCoinDream on September 08, 2014, 11:00:14 PM
I am sort of confused, are we thinking that the same person compromised both of his accounts?   So the person who compromised his account, wrote a message to Satoshi from Satoshi's own account, or is that message to Satoshi from someone else?
If someone is selling his information, the person behind the p2pfoundation account could have only purchased the email credentials to warn him.

I personally think it is just someone spreading FUD about bitcoin. Even if satoshi's IP address was leaked, ISPs do not keep logs this long to be able to link his identity to his IP address.

SourceForge.net Project Bitcoin is messed up as well => http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/

Now, the description of Bitcoin says Buttcoin is a peer-to-peer butt.

Anything associated with satoshin@gmx.com is going to be messed up.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on September 08, 2014, 11:02:36 PM
lol waiting for that bitcoin dump..

Jeepers how many accounts u got


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on September 08, 2014, 11:05:29 PM
I am sort of confused, are we thinking that the same person compromised both of his accounts?   So the person who compromised his account, wrote a message to Satoshi from Satoshi's own account, or is that message to Satoshi from someone else?
If someone is selling his information, the person behind the p2pfoundation account could have only purchased the email credentials to warn him.

I personally think it is just someone spreading FUD about bitcoin. Even if satoshi's IP address was leaked, ISPs do not keep logs this long to be able to link his identity to his IP address.

SourceForge.net Project Bitcoin is messed up as well => http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/

Now, the description of Bitcoin says Buttcoin is a peer-to-peer butt.

Anything associated with satoshin@gmx.com is going to be messed up.

well they changed it today

http://web.archive.org/web/20140908004103/http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: grappa_barricata on September 08, 2014, 11:10:21 PM
I am sort of confused, are we thinking that the same person compromised both of his accounts?   So the person who compromised his account, wrote a message to Satoshi from Satoshi's own account, or is that message to Satoshi from someone else?

Why on earth Satoshi will give a message to Satoshi himself ? Its crystal clear that the account is compromised.

Yes that part is obvious, but why would someone who compromised his account, send a message to himself either?

To demonstrate that he has indeed control of the account.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: BitCoinDream on September 08, 2014, 11:10:55 PM
I am sort of confused, are we thinking that the same person compromised both of his accounts?   So the person who compromised his account, wrote a message to Satoshi from Satoshi's own account, or is that message to Satoshi from someone else?
If someone is selling his information, the person behind the p2pfoundation account could have only purchased the email credentials to warn him.

I personally think it is just someone spreading FUD about bitcoin. Even if satoshi's IP address was leaked, ISPs do not keep logs this long to be able to link his identity to his IP address.

SourceForge.net Project Bitcoin is messed up as well => http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/

Now, the description of Bitcoin says Buttcoin is a peer-to-peer butt.

Anything associated with satoshin@gmx.com is going to be messed up.

well they changed it today

http://web.archive.org/web/20140908004103/http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/

Ya... but it would be very bad if this ID gets access to the Github repo for Bitcoin. If that gmx ID has access to the repo, that needs to be de-activated as quick as possible.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: coins101 on September 08, 2014, 11:18:09 PM
Only governments would be that determined to fuck everyone.

Shatoshi needs to watch he doesn't become a target for not filing capital gains taxes if he lives in the USA. The IRS would love the press attention on getting him.



Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: grappa_barricata on September 08, 2014, 11:18:46 PM
Ya... but it would be very bad if this ID gets access to the Github repo for Bitcoin. If that gmx ID has access to the repo, that needs to be de-activated as quick as possible.

Commits can be reverted, there is no permanent damage that can be done.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: beetcoin on September 08, 2014, 11:23:22 PM
Only governments would be that determined to fuck everyone.

Shatoshi needs to watch he doesn't become a target for not filing capital gains taxes if he lives in the USA. The IRS would love the press attention on getting him.



that's not how it works. he hasn't even touched his coins, so why would he have to pay taxes on them?


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: keithers on September 08, 2014, 11:25:32 PM
Only governments would be that determined to fuck everyone.

Shatoshi needs to watch he doesn't become a target for not filing capital gains taxes if he lives in the USA. The IRS would love the press attention on getting him.



that's not how it works. he hasn't even touched his coins, so why would he have to pay taxes on them?

He would have to sell them and convert to fiat in order to have to claim long term capital gains (since he has held them for over a year).   Bitcoin is not like a traditional investment vehicle that pays dividends, nor does it issue you a 1099 at the end of the year for interest income.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: spooderman on September 08, 2014, 11:26:12 PM
if capital gainz has to be stolen paid on assets that appreciate regardless of weather they are liquidated then yes he would be in trouble.

but he could just say he lost the private keys.

#yayfuture


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: BitCoinDream on September 08, 2014, 11:26:41 PM
Ya... but it would be very bad if this ID gets access to the Github repo for Bitcoin. If that gmx ID has access to the repo, that needs to be de-activated as quick as possible.

Commits can be reverted, there is no permanent damage that can be done.

I dont think this troll will make any code commit. He'll probably post his Buttcoin website everywhere. All access of satoshin@gmx.com to Github Bitcoin repo needs to be revoked.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: r3wt on September 08, 2014, 11:31:26 PM
if capital gainz has to be stolen paid on assets that appreciate regardless of weather they are liquidated then yes he would be in trouble.

but he could just say he lost the private keys.

#yayfuture

#false


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: coins101 on September 08, 2014, 11:45:32 PM
Only governments would be that determined to fuck everyone.

Shatoshi needs to watch he doesn't become a target for not filing capital gains taxes if he lives in the USA. The IRS would love the press attention on getting him.



that's not how it works. he hasn't even touched his coins, so why would he have to pay taxes on them?

I have no idea how it works in the USA, but this sounds like he might have to pay something (assuming he is not in actual fact British, which i think he is):

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If you mine your own Bitcoin, this constitutes taxable gross income equivalent to their fair market value at that date.  

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/irs-says-bitcoin-be-taxed-gains-new-rule-retroactive


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: chek2fire on September 09, 2014, 12:07:56 AM
The real question is does really matter in these days who is Satoshi?


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: Winner on September 09, 2014, 12:11:39 AM
Where in Darknet is it being sold at? I can't find it.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: BitCoinDream on September 09, 2014, 12:15:57 AM
Where in Darknet is it being sold at? I can't find it.

The new "Satoshi" is now asking for donation to reveal the real one's identity :D

http://pastebin.com/hNEmxK63


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: tacotime on September 09, 2014, 12:16:22 AM
Only governments would be that determined to fuck everyone.

Shatoshi needs to watch he doesn't become a target for not filing capital gains taxes if he lives in the USA. The IRS would love the press attention on getting him.



that's not how it works. he hasn't even touched his coins, so why would he have to pay taxes on them?

I have no idea how it works in the USA, but this sounds like he might have to pay something (assuming he is not in actual fact British, which i think he is):

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If you mine your own Bitcoin, this constitutes taxable gross income equivalent to their fair market value at that date.  

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/irs-says-bitcoin-be-taxed-gains-new-rule-retroactive

My interpretation of this is that's only if you sell Bitcoin for USD or trade it for something else of value. You also owe taxes on what the value mined was at the time, but Satoshi's value mined was worthless. As we can tell that he sold pretty much none of what he mined, his tax bill should be nothing.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: spooderman on September 09, 2014, 12:17:38 AM
The real question is does really matter in these days who is Satoshi?

Humans gon' hum.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: trentham on September 09, 2014, 12:36:22 AM
Where in Darknet is it being sold at? I can't find it.

The new "Satoshi" is now asking for donation to reveal the real one's identity :D

http://pastebin.com/hNEmxK63

And that balance better stay at zero.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: jbreher on September 09, 2014, 01:02:24 AM
If that gmx ID has access to the repo, that needs to be de-activated as quick as possible.

Right!

Because.... Because... Wait, wha?

Why would it matter?


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: leannemckim46 on September 09, 2014, 01:04:49 AM
Where in Darknet is it being sold at? I can't find it.

The new "Satoshi" is now asking for donation to reveal the real one's identity :D

http://pastebin.com/hNEmxK63
Well it looks like the hacker is reading this forum and took my advise about posting a donation address.

This is big news

Not really. This is very likely just a single troll. He probably got the idea of using satoshin@gmx.com to post to p2pfoundation.ning.com from my post here. The dox stuff is probably fake.

I for one am disappointed in the level of trolling displayed here. He could have done something amazing and hilarious with Satoshi's email address, but instead he made a couple of lame jokes, and now everyone knows that the email address is compromised.
The hacker could have posted a donation address from the p2pfoundation account and would likely have made a lot of money (people are dumb).


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: bitkilo on September 09, 2014, 01:43:49 AM
Would loosing the private keys be good enough for the IRS? Im sire they would still try to screw him.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: bigasic on September 09, 2014, 01:58:51 AM
if capital gainz has to be stolen paid on assets that appreciate regardless of weather they are liquidated then yes he would be in trouble.

but he could just say he lost the private keys.

#yayfuture

But your assuming that he's from the USA. he probably is, but if he's not, and does not live here, hes not subject to our tax system.. that being said i have heard people say that the government wants him, to imprison him, etc.. I thought how idiotic that thinking is.. To throw a guy in jail for inventing a system.. its like arresting the guy who invented email.. But, if he is an american, they technically could arrest him or charge him for not paying capital gains tax on his coins. granted, they would have to prove that they were his coins, this whole thing is interesting..


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: Ignition75 on September 09, 2014, 02:09:22 AM
if capital gainz has to be stolen paid on assets that appreciate regardless of weather they are liquidated then yes he would be in trouble.

but he could just say he lost the private keys.

#yayfuture

But your assuming that he's from the USA. he probably is, but if he's not, and does not live here, hes not subject to our tax system.. that being said i have heard people say that the government wants him, to imprison him, etc.. I thought how idiotic that thinking is.. To throw a guy in jail for inventing a system.. its like arresting the guy who invented email.. But, if he is an american, they technically could arrest him or charge him for not paying capital gains tax on his coins. granted, they would have to prove that they were his coins, this whole thing is interesting..

I would be willing to bet right now the governments/banks of the world are torn between making an example of Bitcoiners vs not wanting to give them free publicity.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: xman89 on September 09, 2014, 04:42:46 AM
 Maybe his account was hacked long ago.

 When he posted "I'm not Dorian Nakamoto". That looked suspicious to me.  Maybe  his account was hacked by NSA, and they are trying to discredit him.

 I think they would never find who he is, and they are just mad about it and now are using troll tactics. Because they can't do anything else.  

 Of course what they do (whomever they are) is stupid and would not have any effect on bitcoin.

 Satoshi was around his "child" while it was little. Now his child has become a big black magical indestructible dragon and nobody on this planet can kill it.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: r3wt on September 09, 2014, 05:01:20 AM
Maybe his account was hacked long ago.

 When he posted "I'm not Dorian Nakamoto". That looked suspicious to me.  Maybe  his account was hacked by NSA, and they are trying to discredit him.

 I think they would never find who he is, and they are just mad about it and now are using troll tactics. Because they can't do anything else.  

 Of course what they do (whomever they are) is stupid and would not have any effect on bitcoin.

 Satoshi was around his "child" while it was little. Now his child has become a big black magical indestructible dragon and nobody on this planet can kill it.

you must have access to the top flight crackhouses. You're smoking the good stuff.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: BitCoinDream on September 09, 2014, 08:03:52 AM
Where in Darknet is it being sold at? I can't find it.

The new "Satoshi" is now asking for donation to reveal the real one's identity :D

http://pastebin.com/hNEmxK63
Well it looks like the hacker is reading this forum and took my advise about posting a donation address.

This is big news

Not really. This is very likely just a single troll. He probably got the idea of using satoshin@gmx.com to post to p2pfoundation.ning.com from my post here. The dox stuff is probably fake.

I for one am disappointed in the level of trolling displayed here. He could have done something amazing and hilarious with Satoshi's email address, but instead he made a couple of lame jokes, and now everyone knows that the email address is compromised.
The hacker could have posted a donation address from the p2pfoundation account and would likely have made a lot of money (people are dumb).

The new "Satoshi" is definitely reading this forum as evident from buttcoin.org update...


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: Kakmakr on September 09, 2014, 12:36:54 PM
Why do everyone want a piece of this Satoshi?

To me, and from what I have read, he has millions of bitcoins, that are not spend and he created a successfull digital currency.

Looks like a man hunt for a serial ant killer. ^laugh out loud^


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: minerpumpkin on September 09, 2014, 12:50:36 PM
I really wonder if people may indeed do something evil with the information in the account... I don't think Satoshi would store his private keys in the account or anything that may be used to compromise Bitcoin. IP addresses from 2010??? Yeah, big catch...


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: leannemckim46 on September 10, 2014, 02:45:56 AM
I really wonder if people may indeed do something evil with the information in the account... I don't think Satoshi would store his private keys in the account or anything that may be used to compromise Bitcoin. IP addresses from 2010??? Yeah, big catch...
I don't think that many/any email providers save the IP addresses that have logged into a user's account for 4+ years (I may be incorrect on this). I do believe that most ISPs will disregard their IP logs (who was assigned what IP address at what time) after between 6 months and 2 years depending on the ISP. Even if the hacker did have access to satoshi's IP address, it would not allow him to get satoshi's true identity.


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: RocketSingh on September 24, 2014, 11:05:06 AM
So... have we got the dox out as of yet or Satoshi paid that person to stop and vanish in thin air...


Title: Re: Satoshi dox is on Darknet ?
Post by: Seldar on September 24, 2014, 11:55:25 AM
Only governments would be that determined to fuck everyone.

Shatoshi needs to watch he doesn't become a target for not filing capital gains taxes if he lives in the USA. The IRS would love the press attention on getting him.



that's not how it works. he hasn't even touched his coins, so why would he have to pay taxes on them?

He would have to sell them and convert to fiat in order to have to claim long term capital gains (since he has held them for over a year).   Bitcoin is not like a traditional investment vehicle that pays dividends, nor does it issue you a 1099 at the end of the year for interest income.

I hope he's not french : he would have to pay ISF : a tax based upon his wealth even if he didn't sell anything !