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Title: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Thekool1s on September 09, 2014, 04:27:11 AM
This question may be asked earlier but how would we verify that person is telling the truth?


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: beetcoin on September 09, 2014, 04:28:05 AM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: franky1 on September 09, 2014, 04:28:46 AM
This question may be asked earlier but how would we verify that person is telling the truth?

sign a message using a bitcoin address we know belongs to the creator (genesis block address  or the address he used to sell coins to hal finney)


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Thekool1s on September 09, 2014, 04:32:52 AM
This question may be asked earlier but how would we verify that person is telling the truth?

sign a message using a bitcoin address we know belongs to the creator (genesis block address  or the address he used to sell coins to hal finney)

Got it thanks.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: leannemckim46 on September 10, 2014, 03:04:48 AM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.
He doesn't actually have a single address with all his bitcoin. He has several addresses (roughly 50k) with each address containing some amount above 50 BTC each (the block subsidy, plus the TX fees, plus the begging spam).

As it was said several times, he should sign a message with an address that is known to be his.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: forzendiablo on September 10, 2014, 03:12:03 AM
currently it doesnt matter much who satoshi is anyways


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: tntdgcr on September 10, 2014, 03:25:39 AM
I'm batman


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: slaveforanunnak1 on September 10, 2014, 03:28:58 AM
I firmly believe it was Shinchi Mochizuki who wrote the paper. I will eat 2 bites from my shoe (side of it) if i'm ever proven wrong! LOL


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on September 10, 2014, 03:32:06 AM
This question may be asked earlier but how would we verify that person is telling the truth?

sign a message using a bitcoin address we know belongs to the creator (genesis block address  or the address he used to sell coins to hal finney)

If it was the fiat's version of satoshi we could just hide him using this method

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h_v_our_Q


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: counter on September 10, 2014, 03:38:12 AM
Pretty sure Satoshi would be able to prove this is his project with no trouble.  He has the most intimate knowledge of Bitcoin in my opinion being it is his idea.  Don't think proving himself the inventor would be that hard for example if he started moving coins around from his old wallets people would know it was really him.  I'm sure there are more the a few ways he could go about it.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: giszmo on September 10, 2014, 03:47:48 AM
If I had stolen his wallet and "proved" to you today that I'm SpartacusSatoshi, how would that be a proof? As long as the real Satoshi doesn't start arguing against that, the signature proof would serve nothing.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Bit_Happy on September 10, 2014, 04:28:46 AM
What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
We are all Satoshi Nakamoto?  :D

Seriously, I don't understand why the "Satoshi speculation" is such a big deal; He wants to remain private and we should respect that.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 10, 2014, 05:16:39 AM
I firmly believe it was Shinchi Mochizuki who wrote the paper. I will eat 2 bites from my shoe (side of it) if i'm ever proven wrong! LOL

Hmm..... again. Where is the proof? It was Ted Nelson, who claimed for the first time that Shinchi Mochizuki is the real Nakamoto. But even Nelson himself later admitted that it was just a wild assumption. He just picked out a random ethnic Japanese mathematician who lives and work in the United States. However, this assumption was later refuted by people like Tyler Jarvis, who presented real evidence to prove that Shinchi Mochizuki is not Nakamoto.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Zurg49 on September 10, 2014, 07:11:26 PM
I firmly believe it was Shinchi Mochizuki who wrote the paper. I will eat 2 bites from my shoe (side of it) if i'm ever proven wrong! LOL

Hmm..... again. Where is the proof? It was Ted Nelson, who claimed for the first time that Shinchi Mochizuki is the real Nakamoto. But even Nelson himself later admitted that it was just a wild assumption. He just picked out a random ethnic Japanese mathematician who lives and work in the United States. However, this assumption was later refuted by people like Tyler Jarvis, who presented real evidence to prove that Shinchi Mochizuki is not Nakamoto.

I'm interested into seeing what evidence he presented. Got a link I could check out? Thanks.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: exocytosis on September 10, 2014, 07:49:30 PM
currently it doesnt matter much who satoshi is anyways


It doesn't matter if Satoshi is an agency within the US government, for example? An agency currently holding over a million BTC?


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: counter on September 10, 2014, 08:44:21 PM
What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
We are all Satoshi Nakamoto?  :D

Seriously, I don't understand why the "Satoshi speculation" is such a big deal; He wants to remain private and we should respect that.

I think it is because people want to understand what will happen with his coins or they are just new to Bitcoin and they're still wrapping their minds around the mysterious disappearance of Satoshi.  I completely understand what you're saying though.  All the Satohshi speculation has been getting old for a while now.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: oceans on September 10, 2014, 09:49:06 PM
I don't believe the real Satoshi Nakamoto will come forward and say that it's him to be honest but in the event that he did then it would probably be wise to ask him if he could prove some how that he is that person however even then that could be faked if someone really wanted people to believe they were him.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: BitcoinFX on September 10, 2014, 10:09:34 PM
I firmly believe it was Shinchi Mochizuki who wrote the paper. I will eat 2 bites from my shoe (side of it) if i'm ever proven wrong! LOL

Hmm..... again. Where is the proof? It was Ted Nelson, who claimed for the first time that Shinchi Mochizuki is the real Nakamoto. But even Nelson himself later admitted that it was just a wild assumption. He just picked out a random ethnic Japanese mathematician who lives and work in the United States. However, this assumption was later refuted by people like Tyler Jarvis, who presented real evidence to prove that Shinchi Mochizuki is not Nakamoto.

I'm interested into seeing what evidence he presented. Got a link I could check out? Thanks.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-creator-ted-nelson-claims-shinichi-mochizuki-469161

or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B8B2PHZzEk   :D


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Penner on September 10, 2014, 10:11:43 PM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.

There is a 1 million btc wallet  :o :o ??


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: cutepuppy on September 11, 2014, 04:55:47 AM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.

There is a 1 million btc wallet  :o :o ??
No. Well maybe, but not in that it only contains one address. The estimated one million bitcoin that satoshi owns is split up into several thousand addresses.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: sandykho47 on September 11, 2014, 09:56:59 AM
I think nobody would claim him as satoshi nakamoto
becuase thief & bad people will use bad ways to have his bitcoin

If you want proof, just ask : please send 1 million bitcoin to my address now  ;D


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: dankkk on September 13, 2014, 07:29:44 PM
I think nobody would claim him as satoshi nakamoto
becuase thief & bad people will use bad ways to have his bitcoin

If you want proof, just ask : please send 1 million bitcoin to my address now  ;D
Ya that would not be something he would be willing to do.

He has a known PGP key that he could use to sign a message with. This is actually how he would be able to regain access to his account on here as theymos has the account locked


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: redsn0w on September 13, 2014, 07:35:47 PM
I think nobody would claim him as satoshi nakamoto
becuase thief & bad people will use bad ways to have his bitcoin

If you want proof, just ask : please send 1 million bitcoin to my address now  ;D
Ya that would not be something he would be willing to do.

He has a known PGP key that he could use to sign a message with. This is actually how he would be able to regain access to his account on here as theymos has the account locked

Yes , this is his  .asc :


https://bitcointalk.org/Satoshi_Nakamoto.asc


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 07:47:42 AM
I think nobody would claim him as satoshi nakamoto
becuase thief & bad people will use bad ways to have his bitcoin

If you want proof, just ask : please send 1 million bitcoin to my address now  ;D
Ya that would not be something he would be willing to do.

He has a known PGP key that he could use to sign a message with. This is actually how he would be able to regain access to his account on here as theymos has the account locked

Yes , this is his  .asc :


https://bitcointalk.org/Satoshi_Nakamoto.asc
I think it is ironic that the bitcointalk forum is primarily using a PGP key as a verification method then a bitcoin signature would work just as well.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: gtraah on September 14, 2014, 08:48:40 AM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.

This has been stated over and over again, there is no PROOOOF that satoshi owns 1 million coins..  GEEEEZ it just keeps coming up again and again!!


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: AGD on September 14, 2014, 08:51:43 AM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.

+1

https://bitcointalk.org/Satoshi_Nakamoto.asc
http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/

Both need a password, that most likely only the original "Satoshi Nakamoto" knows. If he would write a message now, after years of silence, he would definitely use one, or even better, both possibilities to proof its authenticity. He would not simply forget that for sure.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: sehnye on September 14, 2014, 10:45:21 AM
Probably he has lost his private keys so there will be no proof.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: AGD on September 14, 2014, 11:11:51 AM
Possible, but very unlikely.
Anyway, if someone claims to be him and has no proof, noone should ever believe him.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: slaveforanunnak1 on September 14, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.

There is a 1 million btc wallet  :o :o ??

no.. he has like few hundred thousands of wallets with 50 btc in each... if i recall correctly.

So, what if he lost his private key? I mean, personally, i've lost a few keys in my life  and i had to update all my boxers with my new public key. Shit happens.
If that happens, i guess we can never really be sure who satoshi is .


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: RickyRickyyyy on September 14, 2014, 10:18:40 PM
Satoshi had public profiles and several ways to prove it was him, wouldnt work for the imposter.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: p2pbucks on September 15, 2014, 12:13:52 AM
 if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto then he would be taken as a stupid troll in this forum  ;D


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: adamstgBit on September 15, 2014, 01:52:52 AM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.

There is a 1 million btc wallet  :o :o ??
No. Well maybe, but not in that it only contains one address. The estimated one million bitcoin that satoshi owns is split up into several thousand addresses.

no http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

but you're right.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: nextblast on September 15, 2014, 02:17:56 AM
Bitcoin network is so decentralized. What some Satoshi claim-to-be can do is trivial.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: BTCreward on September 15, 2014, 04:41:49 AM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.

There is a 1 million btc wallet  :o :o ??
No. Well maybe, but not in that it only contains one address. The estimated one million bitcoin that satoshi owns is split up into several thousand addresses.

no http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

but you're right.
I think he was saying that a single "wallet" like a multibit wallet or a blockchain.info wallet would contain the keys to all the addresses that contain the million bitcoin. (I would assume that the wallet would actually be a QT wallet)


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: michietn94 on September 15, 2014, 05:57:55 AM
find an original Satoshi's address
then sign it
so we can verify if you really Satoshi.

But I think Satoshi will not show up again.
If somebody claim as Satoshi than he must work really hard to convince people


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: giveBTCpls on September 15, 2014, 01:24:00 PM
If someone pushes it too far with the identity suplantation im pretty sure that Satoshi himself will come back and make a post about it (unless he is dead obviously ...)


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: wezphoto on September 15, 2014, 01:26:16 PM
Nobody could fake Satoshi Nakamoto identity, we know his pubblic addresses.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Vslacha on September 15, 2014, 02:18:58 PM
Have you found anyone who has claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto?


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: aljunking on September 15, 2014, 02:40:34 PM
This question may be asked earlier but how would we verify that person is telling the truth?

He will never divulge who he is. Ever. That if he wants to stay anonymous and transact anonymously.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: mancala on September 22, 2014, 02:16:50 PM
If he wants to be fcked up the government then stay hidden.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: The Beef on September 22, 2014, 02:31:55 PM
If he wants to be fcked up the government then stay hidden.

Yeah, govt will get in his way and get all his hard earned money.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Oscilson on September 22, 2014, 03:01:06 PM
If he wants to be fcked up the government then stay hidden.

Yeah, govt will get in his way and get all his hard earned money.

It depends on if he can buy up the government.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: CryptoCarmen on September 22, 2014, 03:10:04 PM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.

Even the real one is nothing if he lost his wallet :P


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: zorke on September 23, 2014, 12:24:02 AM
sign his PGP key or prove that he owns the wallet with 1 million bitcoins.

Even the real one is nothing if he lost his wallet :P
Even when satashi left the forum the coins that he had mined were worth a good chunk of change, at least several thousand dollars. For this reason, I highly doubt that he would have lost his wallet.

He would also actually more likely use his PGP key to verify his identity, which also (IMO) has a low chance of being lost by satashi


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: PotatoPie on September 23, 2014, 12:31:22 AM
He hasn't come forward before, why would he now? Money obviously isn't a thing for him or he probably would have dumped his coins when they were 1k each. If he did want to come out into the spotlight then he would have so much media attention that he wouldn't be able to live a normal life. You never know, he may be a 30 year old genius living a normal life with a family and two kids in the suburbs :P.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: greeneye222 on September 25, 2014, 05:50:39 AM
Then I would congratulate him for a very well done job.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: cock-a-doodle on September 29, 2014, 02:51:49 PM
That Id assume he is fake. Satoshi Nakamoto will never reveal himself ever.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: sifter on September 29, 2014, 03:00:36 PM
I am satoshi,

But seriously it won't matter.

And if it was to be legit, they would have to sign a message to prove authenticity.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Jerome? on October 06, 2014, 08:54:43 AM
I am satoshi,

But seriously it won't matter.

And if it was to be legit, they would have to sign a message to prove authenticity.

Can you give me 10 BTC?


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: btckold24 on October 06, 2014, 09:55:25 AM
still don't understand why the guy wouldn't want to step forward. He could even make money doing interviews and also help get his project out and help with adoption.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: manfred on October 06, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
still don't understand why the guy wouldn't want to step forward. He could even make money doing interviews and also help get his project out and help with adoption.
He will eventually, but not to make money with interviews. lol


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: bitllionaire on October 06, 2014, 12:11:27 PM
the real satoshi can perfectly prove who it is
for example,he may move the bitcoins of the genesis block with a signed transaction


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Daniel91 on October 06, 2014, 12:26:30 PM
He hasn't come forward before, why would he now? Money obviously isn't a thing for him or he probably would have dumped his coins when they were 1k each. If he did want to come out into the spotlight then he would have so much media attention that he wouldn't be able to live a normal life. You never know, he may be a 30 year old genius living a normal life with a family and two kids in the suburbs :P.

I agree with this.
In fact, I think that he likes anonymity and privacy and don't want too much publicity and media pressure.
He probably have normal life, so why to change this and lose peace and jeopardized own safety and family.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: CyberSuzy on October 06, 2014, 02:29:34 PM
If someone claim that is Satoshi then we will all know how she looks like.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on October 06, 2014, 02:39:39 PM
If such a person comes forward, though unlikely at this point, he would need to sign a message with his keys. This is what is so good about Bitcoin, and why no fake Satoshi has come forward, because he doesn't own the private keys to Satoshi's stash(although a close friend of his could potentially....)


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: lucky88888 on October 06, 2014, 03:02:38 PM
the real satoshi actually has a bitcoin kill switch, he made it so he could switch it off when he thinks bitcoin has failed.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Heutenamos on October 06, 2014, 03:08:53 PM
the real satoshi actually has a bitcoin kill switch, he made it so he could switch it off when he thinks bitcoin has failed.

LOL, there is just key to be able to broadcast message warnings in Satoshi client (Bitcoin-qt) I believe


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: CryptoCarmen on October 06, 2014, 04:05:30 PM
the real satoshi actually has a bitcoin kill switch, he made it so he could switch it off when he thinks bitcoin has failed.

So we will for sure know when he will wake up.


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: faince222 on October 06, 2014, 04:25:57 PM
If someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto best solution is to sign a message of a single wallet (Satoshi have many wallet of 50 BTC).


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: minime on October 06, 2014, 04:31:19 PM
he is probally reading at this forum and laughs his ass off about all this nonsense 


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: ikydesu on October 06, 2014, 05:49:47 PM
he is probally reading at this forum and laughs his ass off about all this nonsense 
lol

I also think the same with you.

If someone claim that is Satoshi then we will all know how she looks like.

what? she? ???


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Nextgen on October 06, 2014, 05:57:45 PM
verification can be done using an encrypted message with his 1 million bitcoin wallet


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: TradeSmart on October 06, 2014, 06:38:41 PM
Reminded me of this >>> ;D


http://cdn.meme.am/instances/54166288.jpg


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: ANTIcentralized on October 07, 2014, 05:33:11 AM
the real satoshi actually has a bitcoin kill switch, he made it so he could switch it off when he thinks bitcoin has failed.

LOL, there is just key to be able to broadcast message warnings in Satoshi client (Bitcoin-qt) I believe
This actually would be one what that satoshi could prove his identity as the only two other people with these keys are trustworthy enough (IMO) to not falsely claim to be satoshi


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: King Agamemnon on October 08, 2014, 02:14:37 AM
I will not believe him of course..


Title: Re: What if someone claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto?
Post by: Nawaytes on October 08, 2014, 02:19:53 AM
was many people considered as Satoshi Nakamoto, but now it's been confirmed that there is indeed an actual Satoshi,
so for what if someone claims being Satoshi Nakamoto?  ???