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Title: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: haploid23 on April 29, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
I've been waiting for this, and it's finally available to buy. Going straight to the top, the i7-3770K for me. Here's the rest of the models:


Amazon

i7-3770K (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0EOW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=9174383-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B007SZ0EOW) $350
i7-3770 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0EHE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=9174383-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B007SZ0EHE) $320
i7-3770S (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0EOM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=9174383-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B007SZ0EOM) $342
i5-3570K (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0E1K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=9174383-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B007SZ0E1K) $250
i5-3550 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0EJW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=9174383-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B007SZ0EJW) $220
i5-3450S (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007T1YT32/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=9174383-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B007T1YT32) $222
i5-3450 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0ECE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=9174383-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B007SZ0ECE) $205



Newegg

i7-3770K (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501) $350
i7-3770 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502) $320
i7-3770S (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116503) $320
i5-3570K (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504) $250
i5-3550 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116505) $220
i5-3450S (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116507) $200
i5-3450 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116506) $200


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: Keninishna on April 29, 2012, 10:09:18 AM
edit sorry I dunno how to size the pic, this is at microcenter.
http://cdn.overclock.net/a/a6/a6ea384f_DSC06449.jpeg (http://cdn.overclock.net/a/a6/a6ea384f_DSC06449.jpeg)


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: rjk on April 29, 2012, 11:35:33 AM
Hot damn!


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: twoBitBasher on April 29, 2012, 11:39:03 AM
ouch that price is way higher on the top end models than the MSRP
that paperclip $260 price seems nice though.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: MrTeal on April 29, 2012, 01:40:37 PM
Damn I wish I lived near a Microcenter. I wonder how long it will be before they offer a $50 off a Z77 MB in addition to the great price on the 3770k?


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: Nancarrow on April 29, 2012, 02:51:04 PM
Sorry to be a wet blanket, I'm sure Ivy Bridge CPUs are wonderful for many applications, but why is this thread in Bitcoin Forum->Bitcoin->Mining->Hardware?


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: MrTeal on April 29, 2012, 02:58:00 PM
Sorry to be a wet blanket, I'm sure Ivy Bridge CPUs are wonderful for many applications, but why is this thread in Bitcoin Forum->Bitcoin->Mining->Hardware?

Because Intel just released an OpenCL driver and people are curious how HD-4000 is going to perform in a mining application?

I for one am really interested in that info.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: AzN1337c0d3r on April 29, 2012, 03:14:12 PM
I offered to loan out my Late 2011 Macbook Pro or the rig in my sig to anyone who has an HD4000 in Houston amongst my Facebook friends but no one bit yet.

I think the HD4000 will be rathar week at OpenCL, but imagine a botnet with thousands of them...


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: runlinux on April 29, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
edit sorry I dunno how to size the pic, this is at microcenter.
http://cdn.overclock.net/a/a6/a6ea384f_DSC06449.jpeg (http://cdn.overclock.net/a/a6/a6ea384f_DSC06449.jpeg)

Those Price are good today. Also, save 50$ on the motherboard too. It's a shame they don't ship a lot of the stuff.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: MrTeal on April 29, 2012, 03:33:48 PM
edit sorry I dunno how to size the pic, this is at microcenter.
http://cdn.overclock.net/a/a6/a6ea384f_DSC06449.jpeg (http://cdn.overclock.net/a/a6/a6ea384f_DSC06449.jpeg)

Those Price are good today. Also, save 50$ on the motherboard too. It's a shame they don't ship a lot of the stuff.

The $50 is only on the 3570k combo, correct?


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on April 29, 2012, 04:03:09 PM
I wouldn't get too excited on Ivy Bridge for GPU performance.

http://www.dailytech.com/Intel+Launches+Ivy+Bridge+Hypes+Low+TDP+to+Counter+Poor+Graphics/article24523.htm

The GPU is inferior to AMD current gen "APU".   They get 60 MH/s and get to take advantage of AMD superior int performance (BFI).

While there are no OpenCL specs yet looks like Ivy Bridge GPU is ~ 80% of the performance of AMD HD 6570
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Ivy-Bridge-Processor-Review/HD-4000-Processor-Graphics-Perfor

That would put it in the 40 MH/s range assuming equivalent IOPs efficiency.  My guess is it will lack optimized OpenCL compiler and some important instructions so it probably is in the 20 MH/s to 30 MH/s range.

Still it is nice to finally see Intel support OpenCL.  The bad news is even @ 30 MH/s ea a major botnet of say 100K would be 3TH/s.  I don't see this as anything but a negative for miners.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: MrTeal on April 29, 2012, 05:23:16 PM
I wouldn't get too excited on Ivy Bridge for GPU performance.

http://www.dailytech.com/Intel+Launches+Ivy+Bridge+Hypes+Low+TDP+to+Counter+Poor+Graphics/article24523.htm

The GPU is inferior to AMD current gen "APU".   They get 60 MH/s and get to take advantage of AMD superior int performance (BFI).

While there are no OpenCL specs yet looks like Ivy Bridge GPU is ~ 80% of the performance of AMD HD 6570
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Ivy-Bridge-Processor-Review/HD-4000-Processor-Graphics-Perfor

That would put it in the 40 MH/s range assuming equivalent IOPs efficiency.  My guess is it will lack optimized OpenCL compiler and some important instructions so it probably is in the 20 MH/s to 30 MH/s range.

Still it is nice to finally see Intel support OpenCL.  The bad news is even @ 30 MH/s ea a major botnet of say 100K would be 3TH/s.  I don't see this as anything but a negative for miners.

I don't think most people were really expecting Ivy to match Llano in GPU performance. The interest on my part is more in relation to your last couple sentances. IB will have 16 (HD4000) or 6 (HD2500) of the new EUs, while Haswell will (according to Anandtech) use the same shaders topping out at 40 for the GT3 configuration. Even if the majority of CPUs sold are 6-10EU (or whatever the baseline Haswell GPU has) and only get 10MH/s, there is going to be a massive market out there for bot makers in 3 years when there's hundreds of millions of 10MH/s CPUs in the wild.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: Nancarrow on April 29, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
Sorry to be a wet blanket, I'm sure Ivy Bridge CPUs are wonderful for many applications, but why is this thread in Bitcoin Forum->Bitcoin->Mining->Hardware?

Because Intel just released an OpenCL driver and people are curious how HD-4000 is going to perform in a mining application?

I for one am really interested in that info.


Aah okay, I haven't really been keeping up with all this stuff other than chanting thrice daily the mantra 'CPUs are rubbish for mining, mkay?'.

Having said that, D&T's post is bloody depressing. It looks like IvyBridges are still too crap to be a viable option for a single miner with a few rigs, but are *just* good enough that someone could set up a botnet to use hundreds of thousands of them and fuck the rest of us over.  :(


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: haploid23 on April 30, 2012, 10:24:17 PM
Does anyone International (non-US) folks want any of these for US prices? I can buy one to forward to you for exact cost you see linked in the first post, + $5 shipping for just the Chip, or $10-$15 for the sealed retail box with stock fan. Luckily for us here in the US, I think it's cheaper than any other countries  :D


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: twoBitBasher on May 01, 2012, 12:35:27 AM
Does anyone International (non-US) folks want any of these for US prices? I can buy one to forward to you for exact cost you see linked in the first post, + $5 shipping for just the Chip, or $10-$15 for the sealed retail box with stock fan. Luckily for us here in the US, I think it's cheaper than any other countries  :D

I sure am interested. However what keeps you from just scamming my hard earned btc/usd?
I could pull the trigger for one of those 3770s right now, if I'd know I'd actually get it.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: MrTeal on May 01, 2012, 03:17:14 AM
Does anyone International (non-US) folks want any of these for US prices? I can buy one to forward to you for exact cost you see linked in the first post, + $5 shipping for just the Chip, or $10-$15 for the sealed retail box with stock fan. Luckily for us here in the US, I think it's cheaper than any other countries  :D

I sure am interested. However what keeps you from just scamming my hard earned btc/usd?
I could pull the trigger for one of those 3770s right now, if I'd know I'd actually get it.

Not that I'm vouching for him, but he probably lives near a Microcenter. Those people near a Microcenter get to buy a 3770k for $290, the rest of us have to pay $350. :P


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: AzN1337c0d3r on May 01, 2012, 03:27:19 AM
I sure am interested. However what keeps you from just scamming my hard earned btc/usd?
I could pull the trigger for one of those 3770s right now, if I'd know I'd actually get it.

Escrow. Several members here do it for free.

In fact, I will do the same thing (within the US/Canada) at Microcenter prices if anyone is interested. I drive pretty close by to a Microcenter every day and they appear to have 10+ in stock.

You pay cost + tax + shipping + a small fee (let's say $3) and I'll send you (or the escrow) your 3770K.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: dave3 on May 01, 2012, 03:35:04 AM
I got an i7-2600k last year.  I couldn't wait for the ivy bridge models.  :(  But the i7-3770k looks nice.

I do use the intel integrated graphics, but not for mining.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: AzN1337c0d3r on May 01, 2012, 03:38:53 AM
For those not keeping up with the reviews.

IB is not really an upgrade over SB The two main advantages are PCI-E 3.0 or HD4000.

It appears to use slightly less power than SB-E but runs hotter and doesn't overclock as well.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: MrTeal on May 01, 2012, 03:45:40 AM
For those not keeping up with the reviews.

IB is not really an upgrade over SB The two main advantages are PCI-E 3.0 or HD4000.

It appears to use slightly less power than SB-E but runs hotter and doesn't overclock as well.

IB uses a lot less power than SB-E. You give up a huge amount of performance in heavily threaded tasks like rendering, but the power consumption is much lower.
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5626/44767.png


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: dave3 on May 01, 2012, 03:48:35 AM
It's probably just as well that I got the i7-2600k, then, if the new ivy bridge processors are running hotter.

I've got it in a mini-itx case. :)


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: haploid23 on May 01, 2012, 04:34:04 AM
Does anyone International (non-US) folks want any of these for US prices? I can buy one to forward to you for exact cost you see linked in the first post, + $5 shipping for just the Chip, or $10-$15 for the sealed retail box with stock fan. Luckily for us here in the US, I think it's cheaper than any other countries  :D

I sure am interested. However what keeps you from just scamming my hard earned btc/usd?
I could pull the trigger for one of those 3770s right now, if I'd know I'd actually get it.
I've had over 50 transactions, mostly from making custom cables. But even before that, I've had about a dozen large transactions with people on here. Recently also just shipped out several large packges worth a few hundred. I can give you names of people from the more recent transactions.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38725.0


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: 420 on July 02, 2012, 05:54:10 PM
Has anyone tested the 3770K for MHash results yet? I'd love to know


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: pekv2 on July 02, 2012, 06:07:12 PM
i5-3450 is a great jump compared to the i3-2100. Over double on the score by what passmark says and less double the price vs i3-2100.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: ssateneth on July 04, 2012, 03:03:06 AM
Don't hold your breath about ivy bridge integrated graphics hashpower. The "GPU" is apples to oranges compared to radeon 5/6/7xxx. There was a thread earlier about an owner getting no more than 5 mhash/sec using the ivy bridge integrated graphics for mining, and he was absolutely sure it was running on the GPU because his CPU wasn't pegged to 100% duty.


Title: Re: New Ivy Bridge processors available to buy!
Post by: tatsuchan on July 10, 2012, 11:17:46 AM
I don't see CPU being of any use for bitcoin anymore other than info. for botnet operators.....but maybe I'm being paranoid/ignorant. I'm sure there are people that just want to know the figures, but beyond the pursuit of knowledge, CPU's just aren't practical.