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Title: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: k on May 10, 2011, 08:31:16 PM
http://thisweekin.com/ (http://thisweekin.com/)

haven't seen this elsewhere

on right now


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: Leandro César on May 10, 2011, 08:39:22 PM
On!


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: kokjo on May 10, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
thats nice watching now :D


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: kokjo on May 10, 2011, 08:48:15 PM
gavin says nothing...


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: ribuck on May 10, 2011, 08:52:37 PM
The guy on the right is Genjix.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: k on May 10, 2011, 08:55:10 PM
The guy on the right is Genjix.

was wondering who he is.

interesting so far.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: proudhon on May 10, 2011, 09:13:58 PM
Oh geez, what's all this stuff about anonymous?  I think the not-Gavin guy is talking a bit too much.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: k on May 10, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
just finished now.

will probably be available on youtube or as a podcast soon enough.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: xf2_org on May 10, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
Oh geez, what's all this stuff about anonymous?  I think the not-Gavin guy is talking a bit too much.

+1 ...



Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: Gavin Andresen on May 10, 2011, 09:31:07 PM
I shoulda butted in, I think I'm too polite to be on a show with Jason Calacanis...


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: proudhon on May 10, 2011, 09:33:54 PM
I shoulda butted in, I think I'm too polite to be on a show with Jason Calacanis...


I think you did a good job.  In situations like that I think it shows maturity and seriousness when you don't try to cram in every little thought, and I think it was obvious to everyone watching that he was getting a little carried away.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: bencoder on May 10, 2011, 09:39:51 PM
That was great, good job Gavin and Genjix!


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: k on May 10, 2011, 09:41:14 PM
I shoulda butted in, I think I'm too polite to be on a show with Jason Calacanis...


good job Gavin.



Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: Terpie on May 10, 2011, 09:45:07 PM
Yea, the anonymous stuff was a bit over the top. Otherwise, it was a good show.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: genjix on May 10, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Yeah, perhaps I did get a little bit excited.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: ribuck on May 10, 2011, 09:51:03 PM
Well done both of you. Jason was very enthusiastic.

And Genjix, do you really pronounce it "M. T. Gox" rather than "Mount Gox"?

:)


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: ribuck on May 10, 2011, 09:52:02 PM
Max Keiser next?


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: TheKoziTwo on May 10, 2011, 09:52:46 PM
When can it be downloaded?


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: legion050 on May 10, 2011, 09:53:54 PM
missed it :(


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: k on May 10, 2011, 09:56:06 PM
Yeah, perhaps I did get a little bit excited.

good job too genjix.
enjoyed the show.
good thing about bitcoin is that theres is no official spokesman. no central bank so to speak. it's all set out from the start. interesting to see where it goes.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: k on May 10, 2011, 09:58:02 PM
missed it :(

if you go to http://thisweekin.com/thisweekin-startups/ (http://thisweekin.com/thisweekin-startups/) tomorrow it will probably be there. if not it shouldn't take much longer.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: legion050 on May 10, 2011, 10:00:01 PM
missed it :(

if you go to http://thisweekin.com/thisweekin-startups/ (http://thisweekin.com/thisweekin-startups/) tomorrow it will probably be there. if not it shouldn't take much longer.

ah, ty. appreciate the info kirian!


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: proudhon on May 10, 2011, 10:17:17 PM
Yeah, perhaps I did get a little bit excited.

Sorry, I was a bit harsh.  Overall I think you did a fine job.  You definitely got people excited.  The anon stuff just seemed a bit too much.   :)


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on May 11, 2011, 12:13:30 AM

Yes, explaining bitcoin as a PROTOCOL is very effective and the truth in the plainest sense.

A set of rules laid down that people are free to choose to adhere to or not as they wish. I think this is key to getting people to see the difference between the grass-roots capitalism of bitcoin and the discredited trickle-down capitalism of central bank fiat currency.

It is not really a project but multitude of projects aimed at adhering to the protocol.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: eMansipater on May 11, 2011, 12:14:47 AM

Yes, explaining bitcoin as a PROTOCOL is very effective and the truth in the plainest sense.

A set of rules laid down that people are free to choose to adhere to or not as they wish. I think this is key to getting people to see the difference between the grass-roots capitalism of bitcoin and the discredited trickle-down capitalism of central bank fiat currency.

It is not really a project but multitude of projects aimed at adhering to the protocol.
+1
This really is the way we need to start thinking and talking about it.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2011, 01:09:46 AM
Good show...I would just suggest a bit less emphasis on potential legal issues bitcoin could face and focus more on the technology, how it works, what gives it value, etc.  Explain what bitcoin is and the good that will come from it rather than give the audience every possible reason under the sun to fear it or fear using it.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: carbonpenguin on May 11, 2011, 04:29:47 AM
That's a damn sexy shirt Gavin was wearing - just sayin'  ;D


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: The Script on May 11, 2011, 04:47:49 AM
The guy on the right is Genjix.

I read this before watching the show.  When it came on and they introduced "Amir Taaki" I was wondering who the hell that was and where Genjix was.  It me half a second to realize that "Genjix" would not actually be his real name....  :P

Where is he from?  There's a British accent mixed in with something else.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: legion050 on May 11, 2011, 05:07:26 AM
watchable now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNfBgwbqng (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNfBgwbqng)

I shoulda butted in, I think I'm too polite to be on a show with Jason Calacanis...


Yeah, perhaps I did get a little bit excited.

As others said, I enjoyed the show.
I also liked the fact that you both answered about the multiple sides of Bitcoin.



Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: gigabytecoin on May 11, 2011, 08:33:25 AM
Really great show guys.

I'm half way through it right now.

Very informative and interesting points.

Did Gavin mention that all 21 million BTC will be released over the next 140 years earlier in the video? Maybe 5-10 minutes in? Perhaps I simply heard wrong...


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: ribuck on May 11, 2011, 11:00:56 AM
That's a damn sexy shirt Gavin was wearing - just sayin'  ;D
I saw a comment from someone who didn't know the participants. The comment asked "Who's the Star Trek guy and who's the Terrorist?"


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: genjix on May 11, 2011, 11:25:50 AM
HAHAHA so true.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: silversurfer on May 11, 2011, 02:30:55 PM
You guys were both great and complemented each other very well!  Congrats!

Its on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNfBgwbqng


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: The Script on May 11, 2011, 02:55:02 PM
HAHAHA so true.

Genjix, where are you from?


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: k on May 11, 2011, 06:47:40 PM
the lyrics of the theme music are very apt in a way for bitcoin when I listened back. Starts around 30s in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNfBgwbqng (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNfBgwbqng)


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: theymos on May 11, 2011, 08:46:24 PM
The show could have been very good if the hosts would have moderated the discussion so that Gavin had a chance to speak. Genjix is very good at building excitement -- we just need Gavin to balance that out with some reality.

Gavin interrupted more than I would have been able to... I hate these kinds of situations.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: mewantsbitcoins on May 11, 2011, 08:48:48 PM
HAHAHA so true.

Genjix, where are you from?

Mate, have you ever been to London? I'd even hazard a guess he grew in east London


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on May 11, 2011, 09:55:43 PM
It was a good interview. Calacinus is pretty switched on as far as media guys go (hadn't heard him before),  the "humble indy bundle" threw him for a wobbly  :D

Would be interested to hear more from both Gavin and Genjix, different takes ... more interviews to come from I hope.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: The Script on May 11, 2011, 10:47:58 PM
HAHAHA so true.

Genjix, where are you from?

Mate, have you ever been to London? I'd even hazard a guess he grew in east London

No, I haven't.  Never been to Europe.  Some day.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: vuce on May 11, 2011, 10:54:08 PM
This was great, I really enjoyed it, thanks guys.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: Steve on May 12, 2011, 04:19:31 AM
I just watched a portion of the interview again...genjix, you referred to mtgox.com as an "illegitimate exchange" ...I don't think mtgox.com is illegitimate at all.  I am a customer of mtgox and have not had any problems (and indeed I think MagicalTux is working extremely hard to make the exchange even better).  The only thing that might be illegitimate is a government that would try and shut down such an exchange.  Also, I do not believe mtgox.com is in any violation of US laws, so I'm not sure where you would conclude that it is illegitimate in any regard.  If you can point to some law that mtgox is in violation of, I'm willing to be corrected (btw, there are plenty of other exchanges trading in various other goods and digital currencies).  I'm sure it was probably an off the cuff statement that you didn't give much thought to, but words have meaning and in a setting like that, it could be very damaging.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: xf2_org on May 12, 2011, 04:31:43 AM
I just watched a portion of the interview again...genjix, you referred to mtgox.com as an "illegitimate exchange" ...I don't think mtgox.com is illegitimate at all.  I am a customer of mtgox and have not had any problems (and indeed I think MagicalTux is working extremely hard to make the exchange even better).  The only thing that might be illegitimate is a government that would try and shut down such an exchange.  Also, I do not believe mtgox.com is in any violation of US laws, so I'm not sure where you would conclude that it is illegitimate in any regard.  If you can point to some law that mtgox is in violation of, I'm willing to be corrected (btw, there are plenty of other exchanges trading in various other goods and digital currencies).  I'm sure it was probably an off the cuff statement that you didn't give much thought to, but words have meaning and in a setting like that, it could be very damaging.

+1 agreed



Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: xf2_org on May 12, 2011, 05:20:00 AM
In fact opening a Bitcoin exchange in the USA (legal) is near impossible.

Bullshit.



Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: genjix on May 12, 2011, 05:24:43 AM
If you are a US company, operating a US exchange then there is an incredible amount of laws that you must abide by that makes it near impossible due to the huge initial expense.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: jed on May 12, 2011, 01:38:18 PM
It isn't impossible at all. It is just expensive. You would have to get VC money. You basically need to do what dwolla, paypal, paysimple, etc etc all do.


Title: Re: live now - Gavin on twist
Post by: river on May 12, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
It isn't impossible at all. It is just expensive. You would have to get VC money. You basically need to do what dwolla, paypal, paysimple, etc etc all do.

Actually .. with the possible exception of Dwolla (I don't know anything about them) the rest will all lock/cancel your account for violation of terms (made up or not) .. so yes .. it is impossible in the general North America area.