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Title: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: caribbeanbitcoiner on September 29, 2014, 08:53:46 PM
 ;D So excited. Got the Trezor for $80  :o

 I'm going to move my 1.37 BTC from Coinbase to the Trezor. Any Tips for a newbie like me?


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: newIndia on September 29, 2014, 09:08:02 PM
;D So excited. Got the Trezor for $80  :o

 I'm going to move my 1.37 BTC from Coinbase to the Trezor. Any Tips for a newbie like me?

Just dont make any copy-paste typo while sending the Bitcoins and keep the Trezor in safe place. Happy hoarding :)


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: caribbeanbitcoiner on September 29, 2014, 10:51:35 PM
;D So excited. Got the Trezor for $80  :o

 I'm going to move my 1.37 BTC from Coinbase to the Trezor. Any Tips for a newbie like me?

Just dont make any copy-paste typo while sending the Bitcoins and keep the Trezor in safe place. Happy hoarding :)

Another thing I bought it through ebay how do I verify authenticity?


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: thms on September 29, 2014, 10:54:12 PM
I wouldn't trust a Trezor bought on Ebay.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: caribbeanbitcoiner on September 29, 2014, 11:12:51 PM
I wouldn't trust a Trezor bought on Ebay.

It's still plastic wrapped and the Trezor seal is still on the box. Did I waste my money? :'(


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: knight22 on September 29, 2014, 11:15:39 PM
I wouldn't trust a Trezor bought on Ebay.

It's still plastic wrapped and the Trezor seal is still on the box. Did I waste my money? :'(

It might be OK but you should contact Trezor on this.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: odolvlobo on September 29, 2014, 11:20:11 PM
I wouldn't trust a Trezor bought on Ebay.

It's still plastic wrapped and the Trezor seal is still on the box. Did I waste my money? :'(

The trezor box is glued shut and very difficult to open without destroying the box. Even so, somebody could just send it in another box. However, getting into the device itself is also very difficult. If it doesn't look tampered with and it hasn't been initialized, then I wouldn't worry about it.



Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: caribbeanbitcoiner on September 29, 2014, 11:35:38 PM
I wouldn't trust a Trezor bought on Ebay.

It's still plastic wrapped and the Trezor seal is still on the box. Did I waste my money? :'(

The trezor box is glued shut and very difficult to open without destroying the box. Even so, somebody could just send it in another box. However, getting into the device itself is also very difficult. If it doesn't look tampered with and it hasn't been initialized, then I wouldn't worry about it.



Thank you, that's what I thought ;)


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: haploid23 on September 30, 2014, 12:55:20 AM
I wouldn't trust a Trezor bought on Ebay.

It's still plastic wrapped and the Trezor seal is still on the box. Did I waste my money? :'(

It might be OK but you should contact Trezor on this.

Yes but have you seen how well-made a lot of Chinese clones are nowadays? There will be times when you will not be able to tell the difference. For a device like this, it does not look difficult to make the Trezor casing and packaging. All it takes is malicious firmware and your btc is as good as gone once you plug it into a computer with internet a few times.

I might sound paranoid, but personally I wouldn't trust the source unless it's verifiable. You should ask that ebay seller to provide the original receipt of the Trezor.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on September 30, 2014, 01:07:53 AM
I wouldn't trust a Trezor bought on Ebay.

It's still plastic wrapped and the Trezor seal is still on the box. Did I waste my money? :'(

The trezor box is glued shut and very difficult to open without destroying the box. Even so, somebody could just send it in another box. However, getting into the device itself is also very difficult. If it doesn't look tampered with and it hasn't been initialized, then I wouldn't worry about it.



Thank you, that's what I thought ;)
Like some people mentioned, contact Trezor, but really, for testing purposes, send 0.10 or so, wait a few days and see if they get stolen.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: caribbeanbitcoiner on September 30, 2014, 01:26:40 AM
I wouldn't trust a Trezor bought on Ebay.

It's still plastic wrapped and the Trezor seal is still on the box. Did I waste my money? :'(

It might be OK but you should contact Trezor on this.

Yes but have you seen how well-made a lot of Chinese clones are nowadays? There will be times when you will not be able to tell the difference. For a device like this, it does not look difficult to make the Trezor casing and packaging. All it takes is malicious firmware and your btc is as good as gone once you plug it into a computer with internet a few times.

I might sound paranoid, but personally I wouldn't trust the source unless it's verifiable. You should ask that ebay seller to provide the original receipt of the Trezor.

It came with the Customs Declaration Form which said it came from the Czech Rep. The person I bought it from told me he won it in a Internet Contest. His name and address is on the original package  ;D


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: a447513372 on September 30, 2014, 01:45:36 AM
I wouldn't trust a Trezor bought on Ebay.

It's still plastic wrapped and the Trezor seal is still on the box. Did I waste my money? :'(

The trezor box is glued shut and very difficult to open without destroying the box. Even so, somebody could just send it in another box. However, getting into the device itself is also very difficult. If it doesn't look tampered with and it hasn't been initialized, then I wouldn't worry about it.
I would. The plastic "shell" that is being described is not difficult to procure. I would certainly think this would be a cost effective way to scam as people are likely to trust a lot of their bitcoin to their trezor considering the cost.

Also putting .1 BTC is not enough to test to see if your money is safe with it as this is worth well below the purchase price of a trezor so it should be obvious to any attacker that the .1 BTC is only "bait"


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: lyth0s on September 30, 2014, 02:40:19 AM
The bottom of the Trezor box doesn't have a seal, look for any evidence of tamper with the bottom. Also is there a way to reset the trezor seed? If it already has one I definitely wouldn't use it, but that's just me.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: caribbeanbitcoiner on September 30, 2014, 02:44:05 AM
The bottom of the Trezor box doesn't have a seal, look for any evidence of tamper with the bottom. Also is there a way to reset the trezor seed? If it already has one I definitely wouldn't use it, but that's just me.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByulTbuIcAARukU.jpg:large

That's it in the picture.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: lyth0s on September 30, 2014, 02:45:51 AM
From what I can see there it looks like the bottom of the box (in the middle of the bottom) looks like the packaging was messed with. Does it have really rough edges on the bottom? Like someone opened it and re-glued it shut? A photo of the white part of the bottom of the box would be helpful.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: caribbeanbitcoiner on September 30, 2014, 02:48:20 AM
From what I can see there it looks like the bottom of the box (in the middle of the bottom) looks like the packaging was messed with. Does it have really rough edges on the bottom? Like someone opened it and re-glued it shut? A photo of the white part of the bottom of the box would be helpful.

The edges feel pretty smooth.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: lyth0s on September 30, 2014, 02:57:43 AM
What I'm talking about is this. From the two arrows and all the cardboard in between them


https://i.imgur.com/0gTTjdx.png


https://i.imgur.com/0gTTjdx.png


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: caribbeanbitcoiner on September 30, 2014, 03:02:58 AM
What I'm talking about is this. From the two arrows and all the cardboard in between them


https://i.imgur.com/0gTTjdx.png


https://i.imgur.com/0gTTjdx.png

Ohhh Gotcha, There's a little bump on the lower right corner but it feels smooth.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: lyth0s on September 30, 2014, 03:59:56 AM
Ok cause those look like major defects. Good luck and be safe with your coins!


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on September 30, 2014, 11:34:43 AM
What's the difference between hoarding Bitcoin in a trezor vs hoarding Bitcoin in say, an USB stick and a backup in a harddrive and whatnot? Is it waterprooft?


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: bitllionaire on September 30, 2014, 03:09:31 PM
What's the difference between hoarding Bitcoin in a trezor vs hoarding Bitcoin in say, an USB stick and a backup in a harddrive and whatnot? Is it waterprooft?
trezor is usable in non secure enviroments, yes,it is waterproof, and also has passed many others tests


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: caribbeanbitcoiner on September 30, 2014, 03:47:18 PM
What's the difference between hoarding Bitcoin in a trezor vs hoarding Bitcoin in say, an USB stick and a backup in a harddrive and whatnot? Is it waterprooft?

The Trezor is more 'dummy proof' as they say  ;D


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: haploid23 on October 01, 2014, 05:47:40 AM
What's the difference between hoarding Bitcoin in a trezor vs hoarding Bitcoin in say, an USB stick and a backup in a harddrive and whatnot? Is it waterprooft?

If you're completely clueless about how to safely manage your btc (like the general population of Joe's), then Trezor is for you. Even if an expert on computer security, trezor is still pretty mobile compared to all the other secure ways of storing/sending transactions.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: udig on December 12, 2017, 09:35:19 AM
What's the difference between hoarding Bitcoin in a trezor vs hoarding Bitcoin in say, an USB stick and a backup in a harddrive and whatnot? Is it waterprooft?

If you're completely clueless about how to safely manage your btc (like the general population of Joe's), then Trezor is for you. Even if an expert on computer security, trezor is still pretty mobile compared to all the other secure ways of storing/sending transactions.

I know this is an old post, but anyone else thinks Trezor is mostly for newbies? or did I get it wrong?


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: odolvlobo on December 12, 2017, 04:46:25 PM
Only for newbies? I use a Trezor. It is very secure and it is the most convenient way to store keys at a high level of security. A paper wallet is cheaper but it is no more secure and it is much less convenient.


Title: Re: Got my Trezor Today
Post by: udig on December 13, 2017, 08:07:47 AM
Only for newbies? I use a Trezor. It is very secure and it is the most convenient way to store keys at a high level of security. A paper wallet is cheaper but it is no more secure and it is much less convenient.

Ok, thanks for the help