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I read a fud and I see them mostly newbies!

what do they gain? is it not logical that if they want to create a fud it would be more powerful if they are posted by a senior or hero member but they choose to create a  new account to create FEAR, UNCERTAINTY AND DOUBT posts.

This is one such among many

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809370.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809370.0)

Those posts are good places to collect ignores before they waste my time in real discussions.

They want the price to drop so they can get BTC cheaper.

Their accounts are new, but are they new? Perhaps one can earn a small amount from posting FUD in an effort to drive down price?  ;)

My sentiments exactly.

self-moderated posts are also an indicator of how worthwhile they are on a forum bear that in mind :P

Thje actual quoted FUD thread is a clear wallstreet boy who just lost his ass on a bitcoin investment or investment firm who just lost a section of a portfolio to bitcoin.

If bitcoin really ants to concentrate on a merchant to pick bitcoin up,. they need more concentration on investment firms, since the only thing controlling bitcoins demand is its tradable value why not target them instead of places like amazon dell and other coin dumping merchants, we need merchants that want to buy bitcoins not sell them DAAAAAAH.

FUD from new users is most likely due to them being pressured by someone and got in on a bad investment situation. Personal due diligence was not addressed and they need a place to vent.

They could be just generally angered that they were not able to get rich quick, thus need a place to complain about it.

ignoring all FUD is not the answer, there are stupid FUD people and there are FUD that has substantial proof and backing. If you got in to late sorry about your luck thats life, if you felt pressured into an investment and are now loosing your butt, you should have done your own research before investing. Even I (as a FUD poster) can tell you buying in the past 5 months to next 3 months is not a good idea. as history shows the regular movements are downward at the end of the year add that with the merchants dumping a lot of coins every two weeks and its just not a good decision to make.

Altho i post a lot of FUD postings I hope people will run out of bitcoins to throw at these merchants soon. the sooner the kids and bitcoin stupid people get rid of all thier bitcoins the faster the price will raise. We need to kill the faucets and gambling sites. I hate to say that, but that is where the idiots are getting the coins to spend with the merchants. we need people buying the coins in order to spend them not gambling a win and getting free faucets earnings and referral earnings of over a bitcoin a week. And yes it can be done if you know what you are doing :)

I cant really say I am a complete FUD poster, but a lot of my posts do relate to Bitcoins inability to create a true demand for Bitcoin. I wish someone with one of those damn 1 million coin wallets would put them to use in a positive way.

I don't think they can earn that much. An account that posts nothing but FUD and trolls is liable to get neg bombed if they go too crazy which would decrease the value of their account.

A FUD spreader would need to buy a lot of accounts if they wanted to use older accounts. This would eat into their ROI from spreading FUD

So that people can sell their btc at $300 and they can grab it cheap

I assume it's to give the appearance of multiple people supporting the FUDster's viewpoint.

When in reality it's just one or two people. (Probably "Falllling" in many guises. The manner of speech is often familiar).

as to actual motive, who knows?

Paid by some establishment member, scared of Bitcoin?
someone who was burned? By the bubble, or gox, or who knows what.

I don't think its all that profitable, but some people are trying.

i think most Fud spreaders are people with maybe $20 spare cash to their name and they are trying their damned hardest to provoke panic in the hopes of one day owning a whole bitcoin.

they wont be satisfied until bitcoin hits double digits, and even then they will keep trying to cause panic amongst the sheeple.

i gave up watching exchange prices months ago, as they are flawed anyway. localbitcoins and OTC is were the fun is these days.

conspiracy  :D

Yes. A psudo-conspiracy of greedy, self interested individuals. lol

The speculation section has many trolls. Often times they just insult people and tell them to sell. If they are right (which they have been this year) they insult people for not selling. These accounts do sometimes get banned, so the owner would not want to risk their real account.

Not to say there isn't trolls on there other side, but we haven't seen them as much with the price going down for awhile now.

The way some of them talk, its clear they are sockpuppet accounts.

Absence of Newbie jail means you can sign up and start trolling from go.

...and sig campaigns help the manipulators cover their costs. Here's how; some kid starts an account and posts many, many insignificant posts to drive up his activity and his ranking because he hears that people will purchase accounts with high ranking. He acheives "full member" status then sells account. Buyer of account joins whatever sig campaign will take him, hires some trolls over in Services section, puts each troll in charge of a handfull of sock-puppet accounts and sends them out on "missions" manipulating valuations of securities, businesses, btc itself. There is an ulterior motive to holding fake accounts, but thanks to sig campaigns, manipulators can most likely make back all their expenses and spread FUD for free.

You will notice I advertise in my sig. I do so with a clear conscience because I know I have no hidden agenda here. If banning sig campaigns will limit the trolls ability to operate I have no problem with that.

^^^ THIS ^^^

I don't think they are so much each a different person (as implied above) but rather are controlled by a small number of people who are trying to use their sockpuppet accounts to promote their shitcoins. I can't even count how many threads I have read recently in the bitcoin discussion subforum that is advocating to change the mining algo to PoS (piece of shit)

who cares?  we need 51% vote to delete and clean up this place

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=810740

Some are long time members creating new account to post garbage.

They try to spam the whole forum, which is about gambling! They are afraid to be banned if they use their high rank account.

This could not be a worse idea. All this would result in would be that unpopular ideas would be censored while it would be very easy for what stays and what is deleted to be manipulated.

The only way to get rid of useless posts is to report spam posts to the moderators and be specific as to what the issue is (what rule they are breaking).

The FUD spreaders are new because the price is on a downtrend which means that people just starting to watch bitcoin will generally be bearish so when new people register they will have just started to watch and be bearish

Mostly this.. otherwise why would they care?

Plus many of them don't understand BTC and have heard about Silk Road and Mt. Gox and didn't look much further.

Also a little bit of this:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

Trolls largely just enjoy trolling and BTC is a good place to do it, people might actually lose money off of their trolling, which they love!

Eventually people realize they are trolls, they get a bunch of negative trust votes.. and they switch to a new account that hasn't been blacklisted by the community yet.

sadly when they switch account they have time to create enough damage before having to switch again.

It's purely for their own profit.