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War is cannot be avoided. There will always be war no matter what the date is. It is imbedeed in our genes. War destroy things war also force us to create new things. There are no government that will last forever it will be destroyed by others or it destroys itself. This is just human nature. Humans are predator.

maybe in another 500/5,000/10,000 years, if we're still here, greed will be left behind and share will prevail :)

War is cannot be avoided. There will always be war no matter what the date is. It is imbedeed in our genes. War destroy things war also force us to create new things. There are no government that will last forever it will be destroyed by others or it destroys itself. This is just human nature. Humans are predator.

Why would it? There is no evolutionary pressure to select for "sharing genes". That being said, I don't think greed is the issue. There are plenty of ways to acquire wealth without resorting to war.

No, the real problem with human nature is the tendency of individuals to surrender their individual will to a crowd/mob mentality. That's what allows individuals with malevolent intent to seize power and bewitch the populace, and then go on to do violence. The reason monsters like Hitler or Stalin came to power is not greed, but because others were willing to follow them, were willing to die for them in fact. It is the human ability to cooperate with each other, to put one's own thoughts and ideas and self-interest and the evidence of their senses out of mind while obeying someone else, that is the fatal flaw that leads to so much war. Without it, it would only be the occasional individual fighting another when they can't get along, rather than those individuals having millions of willing followers slaughtering millions of others.

Im watching a documentation about the vietnam war.

I dont want to talk about the vietnam war itself, but about a thought that doesnt want to leave my head.

You bomb our people from above the sky and that is why we are wearing bombs to kill your people.

How does it come that after the first world war, the second world war and all the other wars following didnt change us?
How can it be that today we still have torture, oppression, murder and that even supported by governments that lead us?


Sometimes when i see stuff like that i am not sure anymore if humanity still has a future...

War is way too profitable for there to be global peace, arms manufacturers are one of the few industries the West hasn't completely outsourced to Asia.

A good book to read about this subject is Jeremy Scahill's: The World Is A Battlefield

http://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Wars-The-World-Battlefield/dp/156858671X


@u9y42 Big fan of the Real News Network, will check out the links you posted

War is cannot be avoided. There will always be war no matter what the date is. It is imbedeed in our genes. War destroy things war also force us to create new things. There are no government that will last forever it will be destroyed by others or it destroys itself. This is just human nature. Humans are predator.

Human nature is not to fear, it is to love.  An overwhelming majority of humans tend to bond in unity with others

War exists because society is perpetually stoned from the flesh and blood we breathe in and consume.

"predator" LMAO .. More like blood/meat addicted, dumbass savages who's prey is anything that is incapable of defending itself.

Does that steak smell good ? Go on.. take another cowardly hit ! :P

Wasn't hitler a vegetarian toward the end of his life, i.e. the period he was responsible to kill the most amount of people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism

 ;)

This simply proves how much of a nutbag he really was.

None the less, he was never technically a vegetarian because his chef, doctor ect. were undermining his efforts. It is also worth noting that he was never described as a vegan. eg. no meat/fish, dairy, eggs

The inhaled fumes from cooked/boiled eggs alone, is enough to scramble anybody's brain. *pun intended*

Wasn't hitler a vegetarian toward the end of his life, i.e. the period he was responsible to kill the most amount of people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism

 ;)

Vegetarians don't mind seeing blood.
They are just against ingesting it.  ;D

Im watching a documentation about the vietnam war.

I dont want to talk about the vietnam war itself, but about a thought that doesnt want to leave my head.

You bomb our people from above the sky and that is why we are wearing bombs to kill your people.

How does it come that after the first world war, the second world war and all the other wars following didnt change us?
How can it be that today we still have torture, oppression, murder and that even supported by governments that lead us?


Sometimes when i see stuff like that i am not sure anymore if humanity still has a future...

You bomb our people from above the sky and that is why we are wearing bombs to kill your people.

How does it come that after the first world war, the second world war and all the other wars following didnt change us?

Im watching a documentation about the vietnam war.

I dont want to talk about the vietnam war itself, but about a thought that doesnt want to leave my head.

You bomb our people from above the sky and that is why we are wearing bombs to kill your people.

How does it come that after the first world war, the second world war and all the other wars following didnt change us?
How can it be that today we still have torture, oppression, murder and that even supported by governments that lead us?


Sometimes when i see stuff like that i am not sure anymore if humanity still has a future...

As mentioned above, that's exactly why tyrants are able to gain power and carry out wars.

If you have fear in God, you will not think of killing other people.

Im watching a documentation about the vietnam war.

I dont want to talk about the vietnam war itself, but about a thought that doesnt want to leave my head.

You bomb our people from above the sky and that is why we are wearing bombs to kill your people.

How does it come that after the first world war, the second world war and all the other wars following didnt change us?
How can it be that today we still have torture, oppression, murder and that even supported by governments that lead us?


Sometimes when i see stuff like that i am not sure anymore if humanity still has a future...

People reset every 50 to 100 years on average so with each resetting lessons are forgotten
Mortality is a weakness that said we do have a lot stronger connection to history than we used to now.
So progressing in a relative sense of the term

The Strauss–Howe generational theory, created by authors William Strauss and Neil Howe, describes a theorized recurring generation cycle in American history. Strauss and Howe laid the groundwork for their theory in their 1991 book Generations, which discusses the history of the United States as a series of generational biographies going back to 1584.[1] In their 1997 book The Fourth Turning, the authors expanded the theory to focus on a fourfold cycle of generational types and recurring mood eras in American history.[2] They have since expanded on the concept in a variety of publications.

The theory was developed to describe the history of the United States, including the 13 colonies and their British antecedents, and this is where the most detailed research has been done.[original research?] However, the authors have also examined generational trends elsewhere in the world and described similar cycles in several developed countries.[3]

Eric Hoover (2009) has called the authors pioneers in a burgeoning industry of consultants, speakers and researchers focused on generations.[4] Academic response to the theory has been mixed—some applauding Strauss and Howe for their "bold and imaginative thesis", and others criticizing the theory.[5][6] Criticism has focused on the lack of rigorous empirical evidence for their claims,[7] and a perception that aspects of the argument gloss over real differences within the population.[6]

The authors describe each turning as lasting about 20–22 years. Four turnings make up a full cycle of about 80 to 90 years,[44] which the authors term a saeculum, after the Latin word meaning both "a long human life" and "a natural century".[45]

Generational change drives the cycle of turnings and determines its periodicity. As each generation ages into the next life phase (and a new social role) society’s mood and behavior fundamentally changes, giving rise to a new turning. Therefore, a symbiotic relationship exists between historical events and generational personas. Historical events shape generations in childhood and young adulthood; then, as parents and leaders in midlife and old age, generations in turn shape history.[46]

Each of the four turnings has a distinct mood that recurs every saeculum. Strauss and Howe describe these turnings as the "seasons of history". At one extreme is the Awakening, which is analogous to summer, and at the other extreme is the Crisis, which is analogous to winter. The turnings in between are transitional seasons, similar to autumn and spring.[47] Strauss and Howe have discussed 26 theorized turnings over 7 saecula in Anglo-American history, from the year 1435 through today.

At the heart of Strauss & Howe's ideas is a basic alternation between two different types of eras, Crises and Awakenings. Both of these are defining eras in which people observe that historic events are radically altering their social environment.[48] Crises are periods marked by major secular upheaval, when society focuses on reorganizing the outer world of institutions and public behavior (they say the last American Crisis was the period spanning the Great Depression and World War II). Awakenings are periods marked by cultural or religious renewal, when society focuses on changing the inner world of values and private behavior (the last American Awakening was the "Consciousness Revolution" of the 1960s and 1970s).[49]

During Crises, great peril provokes a societal consensus, an ethic of personal sacrifice, and strong institutional order. During Awakenings, an ethic of individualism emerges, and the institutional order is attacked by new social ideals and spiritual agendas.[50] According to the authors, about every eighty to ninety years—the length of a long human life—a national Crisis occurs in American society. Roughly halfway to the next Crisis, a cultural Awakening occurs (historically, these have often been called Great Awakenings).[49]

Nomad generations enter childhood during an Awakening, a time of social ideals and spiritual agendas, when young adults are passionately attacking the established institutional order. Nomads grow up as under-protected children during this Awakening, come of age as alienated, post-Awakening adults, become pragmatic midlife leaders during a Crisis, and age into resilient post-Crisis elders.[57]

The film describes the 1960s as a time in which young adults turned away from their parents' values, saying they turned their backs on history. The film refers to “seasons of history” and concludes that the damage which was initiated in the 1960s, when young baby boomers turned away from their parents' values, will be undone via war or other great crisis. The period of crisis is referred to as a "turning". In Strauss and Howe's theory, the period of crisis or war is referred to as the “fourth turning”. The film concludes with the line "history is seasonal and winter is coming".[4][1][3][9]

Historian David Kaiser, who was consulted for the film said that it focused on a key aspect of Strauss and Howe's theory: "the idea that every 80 years American history has been marked by a crisis, or 'fourth turning', that destroyed an old order and created a new one”. Bannon, Kaiser states, was "very familiar with Strauss and Howe’s theory of crisis, and has been thinking about how to use it to achieve particular goals for quite a while.”

Who told you this? I can give you millions of examples, where religious people have killed others for insane and silly reasons. Just look at those ISIS guys in Syria and Iraq. They claim that they follow the purest form of Islam. Till now, they have killed more than 100,000 people, on top of the tens of thousands they have kidnapped and enslaved.

It's funny how religions taught us to do good deeds and avoid evil things but throughout the history it's what cause too many horrifying acts. They are all blinded by their beliefs that they make their own interpretation on each of their holy book.

Im watching a documentation about the vietnam war.

I dont want to talk about the vietnam war itself, but about a thought that doesnt want to leave my head.

You bomb our people from above the sky and that is why we are wearing bombs to kill your people.

How does it come that after the first world war, the second world war and all the other wars following didnt change us?
How can it be that today we still have torture, oppression, murder and that even supported by governments that lead us?


Sometimes when i see stuff like that i am not sure anymore if humanity still has a future...