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Title: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: nutildah on October 03, 2014, 08:01:51 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809466.msg9070742#msg9070742


I guess this means Josh Zeidner purposefully goaded BCX into a fight to lower the price of Monero, which did happen, but now its not going back up like he planned, which is making him super crazy (in addition to his mild perma-crazy).


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: robinwilliams on October 03, 2014, 09:20:46 PM
mind = blown  :D


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: EvilDave on October 04, 2014, 12:37:10 AM
Yup...this is fucking hilarious, tbh.

So now the entire Monero community knows where to find Moneroman88.
Gonna be time for popcorn soon.....can't wait until BCX finds out.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: Spoetnik on October 04, 2014, 02:40:41 AM
are we suppose to know who JOSH ZEIDNER!! is ?

seriously no joke guys.. can someone explain a bit ?

there is too many guys running around and trying to keep tabs on what 45 forums account names belong to what scamming asshole is tiring bullshit..
so i usually don't bother trying to tie them to each other and just ignore or laugh at them or poke them with a stick LOL

a lot of guys around here get off on playing guessing games.. OHH You can't figure out who i am na naa na naaa naa :)
and well who cares.. your nobody LOL
don't care what accounts your hopping around on.. you don't matter and your nobody and your opinions means squat.

anyone that needs multiple accounts should tell you all you need to know.
and goes hand in hand with their current scam coin project revolving around the reputation of Bitcointalk.
aka: Shitcoin #1,203 means nothing unless it's spammed about here non stop and argued about with drama incessantly.

many of these shills need to get a day job rather than pounding this place for profit !

if the opinion / discussions of a coin here means so much to your coin then you got bigger problems than Trolls guys LOL
get it ?


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: Kora on October 04, 2014, 02:57:48 AM
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Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: digitalindustry on October 04, 2014, 03:27:45 AM
what i want to know in all of this is anyone stupid enough to buy into the NXT scam?

I'm asking out of curiosity, i've seen the stats on the "Nigerian Prince" scam so I figure someone is buying it.

I laughed a lot when the guys at coinmarketcap panicked when Quark hit 4th over Namecoin ( making Quark the first real successful Crypto in history)

they then started to list literally anything.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 04, 2014, 03:34:37 AM


I've been pointing out that NXT is a criminal operation for some time.

They have been running a non stop smear campaign against me for months.




what i want to know in all of this is anyone stupid enough to buy into the NXT scam?

I'm asking out of curiosity, i've seen the stats on the "Nigerian Prince" scam so I figure someone is buying it.

I laughed a lot when the guys at coinmarketcap panicked when Quark hit 4th over Namecoin ( making Quark the first real successful Crypto in history)

they then started to list literally anything.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: devphp on October 04, 2014, 03:44:38 AM
Joshua Zeidner,

return 1 million NXT that you stole from NXT community!


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: nutildah on October 04, 2014, 05:22:48 AM
BlueMeanie already got rid of all of the NXT. His one asset venture didn't do very well and I don't care enough to follow the blockchain trail as to where/how he spent 1 million NXT, but if there was any doubt, here's proof he had the 1 million at one point:

https://i.imgur.com/bwIsSK1.png

How do I know that's his NXT address?

https://i.imgur.com/3CjMSwu.png

There is some excellent reading in this thread. I suggest you start here:

https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/nxtautodac-all-of-bluemeanie's-automated-profit-making-blockchain-companies/100/?PHPSESSID=u4ort942na0s3jiujac903uvo2

Sorry BM, nothing personal, just doing what I would do if anybody else were trying to pull this b.s.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: achimsmile on October 04, 2014, 10:48:46 AM
what i want to know in all of this is anyone stupid enough to buy into the NXT scam?

People scam. Crypto technologies do not.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: iampingu on October 04, 2014, 11:23:55 AM
what i want to know in all of this is anyone stupid enough to buy into the NXT scam?

I'm asking out of curiosity, i've seen the stats on the "Nigerian Prince" scam so I figure someone is buying it.

I laughed a lot when the guys at coinmarketcap panicked when Quark hit 4th over Namecoin ( making Quark the first real successful Crypto in history)

they then started to list literally anything.

i bought like 10 to feel included in the community


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: EvilDave on October 04, 2014, 12:46:03 PM
what i want to know in all of this is anyone stupid enough to buy into the NXT scam?

I'm asking out of curiosity, i've seen the stats on the "Nigerian Prince" scam so I figure someone is buying it.

I laughed a lot when the guys at coinmarketcap panicked when Quark hit 4th over Namecoin ( making Quark the first real successful Crypto in history)

they then started to list literally anything.

i bought like 10 to feel included in the community

Have some love, pingu dude, just to feel truly included.


Back to the matter at hand:
Joshua Zeidner, the poor. sad, little victim af an evil conspiracy.
Or a delusional lunatic and thief?
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt

And if anyone wants to check out NXT:
www.nxtforum.org

Gotta point out that NXT is currently rising against BTC, so its a good place to hide in while the current BTC storm passes over.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: iampingu on October 04, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
what i want to know in all of this is anyone stupid enough to buy into the NXT scam?

I'm asking out of curiosity, i've seen the stats on the "Nigerian Prince" scam so I figure someone is buying it.

I laughed a lot when the guys at coinmarketcap panicked when Quark hit 4th over Namecoin ( making Quark the first real successful Crypto in history)

they then started to list literally anything.

i bought like 10 to feel included in the community

Have some love, pingu dude, just to feel truly included.


Back to the matter at hand:
Joshua Zeidner, the poor. sad, little victim af an evil conspiracy.
Or a delusional lunatic and thief?
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt

And if anyone wants to check out NXT:
www.nxtforum.org

Gotta point out that NXT is currently rising against BTC, so its a good place to hide in while the current BTC storm passes over.

i wasn't being sarcastic when i said i bought 10 either, spread my funds out over numerous coins and nxt had a tiny amount of my funds in it, so that i'd be interested to learn more about it etc.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: 3x2 on October 04, 2014, 12:50:57 PM
so he was just trolling and acting like he is somehow connected to XMR  :-X


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on October 04, 2014, 01:18:54 PM
Joshua Zeidner,

return 1 million NXT that you stole from NXT community!


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: robinwilliams on October 04, 2014, 04:11:41 PM
so he was just trolling and acting like he is somehow connected to XMR  :-X

what i can't figure out is WHY unless it was to attack jl777.  but even then he did way more towards getting bcx involved in trying to destroy monero which would only help jl777\boolberry.  so that doesn't make any sense.



Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 04, 2014, 04:54:57 PM
I am not operating the bitcointalk.org social media account MONEROMAN88.

-Joshua Zeidner


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: instacalm on October 04, 2014, 05:02:17 PM
NXT is not crypto, its a token and its a scam, I saw when it came to origin in late 2013, it always smelled, tasted and looked like a scam, guess what, its a scam and the real crypto community backed by legit bitcoin and cryptonote coins are fed up with NXT token non-minerable scam Bullshit.

There is nothing in this statement that makes sense, Nekomata. If anything it sounds incompetent and frustrated.
"NXT is not crypto, its a token and its a scam" -- Sorry, what?  "is not crypto", "non-minerable scam"?  Ok...


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 04, 2014, 05:12:47 PM
TO BE 100% CLEAR.

I have no knowledge of the operator of the account MONEROMAN88, I have no knowledge of the identity of this author and I do not necessarily agree with statements related to this account.

-Joshua Zeidner


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: instacalm on October 04, 2014, 05:16:34 PM
NXT is not crypto, its a token and its a scam, I saw when it came to origin in late 2013, it always smelled, tasted and looked like a scam, guess what, its a scam and the real crypto community backed by legit bitcoin and cryptonote coins are fed up with NXT token non-minerable scam Bullshit.

There is nothing in this statement that makes sense, Nekomata. If anything it sounds incompetent and frustrated.
"NXT is not crypto, its a token and its a scam" -- Sorry, what?  "is not crypto", "non-minerable scam"?  Ok...

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-core-developer-jeff-garzik-believes-nxt-is-a-scamcoin/

yawn -- https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/a-longer-reply-to-jeff-garzik/

That particular article proves nothing, it's actually pretty embarrassing.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: Come-In-Behind on October 04, 2014, 05:22:04 PM
Anyone who actually buys NXT and holds(for the longterm as they say) is an idiot.

NXT is only good for pumping and dumping, even then it's extremely risky, because most NXT coins are owned by the few people who bought in the IPO back last year.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: instacalm on October 04, 2014, 05:23:21 PM
He only responded from the source-code criticism and not the other core fundamental problems, yamn as long as you want the community is tired of being fooled by scammers.

Post your evidence that proves NXT's technology to be a scam. Make sure to post the particular lines of code that lead to your judgement. Thanks.

the community is tired of being fooled by scammers
-- even more so by far-fetched claims.


P.S. did you even read the second part of the article that pointed out Garzik's claim that "hashes didn't match";
that is that he didn't know what he was talking about?


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: instacalm on October 04, 2014, 05:37:34 PM
Lets end this "debate" saying I'll never back a token that is controlled by the sock-puppet-central-bank of whoever started this thing.

Nobody asked you to back anything ;) You claimed something to be a scam without evidence simply because you evidently dislike that particular project. I don't particularly like Monero either, yet I'd never make far-fetched claims against it because it doesn't make sense to post random BS other than to make yourself look incompetent. Worst case is demonstrated in this thread by the most ridiculous and hateful person I have encountered in cryptocurrency so far, namely Joshua Zeidner. Don't be like him, you really don't have to.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: instacalm on October 04, 2014, 05:47:26 PM
If Monero developers were unknown I would never support it either.

Sure, you're free to support whatever you wish

As a side note I've never really understood the excessively person-centered issues some people happen to have in the open-source driven environment of decentralised software that cryptocurrency ultimately is, ie. rejecting Bitcoin because Satoshi is unknown/anonymous etc. The math and code itself speaks to me rather than the persons.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: nutildah on October 04, 2014, 06:39:41 PM
TO BE 100% CLEAR.

I have no knowledge of the operator of the account MONEROMAN88, I have no knowledge of the identity of this author and I do not necessarily agree with statements related to this account.

-Joshua Zeidner


Its too late, you were caught slipping. You can't go from posting as low-IQ'd knucklehead Moneroman88 to posting in your real style (and signing messages with your name), the EXACT same style as BlueMeanie. Stupid people don't become smart all of the sudden. It can work the other way, though.


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: Snail2 on October 04, 2014, 07:27:24 PM
TO BE 100% CLEAR.

I have no knowledge of the operator of the account MONEROMAN88, I have no knowledge of the identity of this author and I do not necessarily agree with statements related to this account.

-Joshua Zeidner


 :). Probably this is the cause of this "misunderstanding"...




Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: nutildah on October 04, 2014, 07:43:08 PM


 :). Probably this is the cause of this "misunderstanding"...



Thanks for posting this. Doesn't exactly ring true to the established style of Moneroman88 does it. This is the Moneroman I know:


"BitcoinExpress" you better shut your puss in the first place if all you can is play the big boy. I've never stumbled upon any action of yours, kid. Thanks for making me burst in laughter like a tard though. :D

Gotta love this forum for the amount of shitheads around :D


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: Snail2 on October 04, 2014, 08:02:50 PM
The credit goes to Katala :).


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: EvilDave on October 04, 2014, 09:12:39 PM
Anyone who actually buys NXT and holds(for the longterm as they say) is an idiot.

NXT is only good for pumping and dumping, even then it's extremely risky, because most NXT coins are owned by the few people who bought in the IPO back last year.

Dude...have u seen the NXT price chart ? It went up like a frigging rocket just after launch and has been pretty steady (with a wobble or 2) for the last 10 months.
I cant think of any much worse currencies to try a pump and dump on.....NXT is a serious long term project.

http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/pair/nxt/btc/bter/ytd


Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: Katala on October 04, 2014, 09:39:24 PM
Im controversial not because I did something wrong, but because I'm extremely good at what I do- cryptocurrency engineering.

-bm

HOW TO: Make Your Own Local Fiat Exchange With NXT AE: (https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/how-to-make-your-own-local-fiat-exchange-with-nxt-ae/)

here I'll explain how to get into the fiat exchange business in your town using the AE.  I had made some comments about the Bitcoin ATM and how they are not as useful once you have a decentralized exchange and one commenter wasn't completely clear on why this is, so I'll explain here.

NOTE: there are serious legal considerations with providing these sorts of services.  In many nations, such as the United States of America(also known as The Land of the Free) and most parts of Europe this sort of activity is either partially or strictly illegal.  Make sure you understand the legal consequences of starting your own local fiat exchange.

http://www.beeslife.com/currency/bb/5.jpg

step 1:  Create A Reserve

First step is taking a bit a cash and making a reserve.  Your eventual users will need to trust that you have this money in the bank because they will be honoring your Cryptonotes for real money.  If the trust(or perception of) breaks down with the public ie. they don't believe that you can honor all outstanding notes, you will have a collapse in market price.  So depending on how you do your banking, it's best to have some sort of service that can provide a document(like a bank statement) that can prove you have the money in the bank to correspond with your cryptonotes.

step 2:  Create Some Marketing Material

Easiest way to do this is make a website that explains why your notes are credible, where/when they can be exchanged, where the money is stored, historical information(how long has the service been running), how many happy customers you have, etc.  Also starting a forum or blog so your customers can communicate with you in a publicly auditable way can really help to instill confidence with your users.

step 3:  Issue The Asset

Next you must Issue the asset.  The Asset Quantity should correspond to how much money is in your reserve(from step 1).

https://i.imgur.com/ZaPYIQy.png

step 4:  Market the Asset

Now you must offer the notes for sale.  They must sell ABOVE the redemption value(in real terms) in order for your business to make sense.  Thus it is your responsibility to make sure the assets are trading at a favorable rate.  They may drop below profitable levels at first, but as you gain reputation they will float above the redemption value.  The difference is called Seigniorage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seigniorage).  If they drop too low, you may have to buy them back.  You must, in all cases redeem them for their pre-defined cash out value or lose your credibility.

step 5:  Offer Redemption Services

http://3q6cxy17ced7214bqz1j6fq32m8.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Bank-Teller1-198x198.jpg
"Hello, Welcome to Meaniebank(tm).  How can we help you today?"

You must maintain a way for your customers to redeem the notes for real money.  Depending on the needs of your market, you may offer this service at some place in your town, perhaps at a Bitcoin Meetup, or a NXT Meetup.  As your bank becomes well known, the notes may be accepted in other geographical areas.  You can even work out deals with friends in other town to offer redemption services in other areas(make sure you cut them into the profits :) ).  You should do this in a safe place where robberies and such are unlikely.  Also dressing properly will help you instill confidence with your customers.

step 6:  Enjoy Your Success

You're a banker now like J.P. Morgan.  Doesn't that feel great?

-bm


there's a lot of FUD out there because rival projects who have VC backing see NXT as a huge threat.

NXT is an open source project and even though we have great minds evangelizing for NXT, they don't really get paid- they seem to do it out of some sort of religious conviction.

-bm



most of the cryptocoins are pump and dump schemes.  The market cap is measured by some weak function of sales, but the owners could be holding onto 95%+ of the coin.

NXT is not in the above category.

-bm


I'm a cryptocurrency expert.  I got involved with NXT fairly recently.  The NXT model is far more lucrative than Bitcoin.  I've also been involved with the PPC community and I've worked on other algorithms in the past.

-bm


I realize I've mentioned NXT many times lately, but IMHO the good people are over at the NXT project.

-bm



Title: Re: MONEROMAN88 IS BLUE MEANIE IS JOSH ZEIDNER!!
Post by: nutildah on October 22, 2014, 06:55:25 PM
For some reason certain peoples memories around here are like goldfish.