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Title: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: CryptoCurrencyInc.com on October 08, 2014, 10:33:49 AM
Penalties for the use and creation of methods of generating cryptocurrencies.

Business get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin.
Each individual get caught using Bitcoin will get $1260 fine.
Government officials get caught using Bitcoin will get $2,507 fine.


Central Banks are now expecting USA to follow this penalty law for the use of Bitcoin.
Central Banks are still the rulers of USA. Legislations are now secretly being draft up in USA.


http://cointelegraph.com/news/112668/russia-to-issue-ban-and-fines-for-cryptocurrency-use

http://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/4eb5150056fbf39ef8af31a92ca2ff62.jpg


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: chennan on October 08, 2014, 11:29:21 AM
Curious which country is releasing such tough regulation to bitcoin, which is trying to kill bitcoin. I don't think the USA will follow.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: Sitarow on October 08, 2014, 11:30:52 AM


Not going to happen.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: mmsen on October 08, 2014, 11:31:41 AM
Mother Russia doesn't want her children using bitcoin.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: Elwar on October 08, 2014, 11:34:10 AM
Rewarding individuals with lower fines compared to companies means mining will be more distributed in Russia. :)


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: aghuman1 on October 08, 2014, 11:36:09 AM
Penalties for the use and creation of methods of generating cryptocurrencies.

Business get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin.
Each individual get caught using Bitcoin will get $1260 fine.
Government officials get caught using Bitcoin will get $2,507 fine.


Central Banks are now expecting USA to follow this penalty law for the use of Bitcoin.
Central Banks are still the rulers of USA. Legislations are now secretly being draft up in USA.


http://cointelegraph.com/news/112668/russia-to-issue-ban-and-fines-for-cryptocurrency-use

http://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/4eb5150056fbf39ef8af31a92ca2ff62.jpg
This is not right ..


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: jacktheking on October 08, 2014, 11:38:49 AM
I wonder what makes them ban bitcoin. Look like less people is supporting Bitcoin nowadays.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: Elwar on October 08, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
I wonder what makes them ban bitcoin. Look like less people is supporting Bitcoin nowadays.

Less people? How?


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: h4xx0r on October 08, 2014, 12:09:54 PM
I wonder what makes them ban bitcoin. Look like less people is supporting Bitcoin nowadays.

Less people? How?

He was just letting his agenda come exploding out of his flamboyant asshole. in other words, he was "talking out of his ass"


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: coinut on October 08, 2014, 12:10:25 PM
as I understand it country's with the least freedom are more likely to be aggressive against Bitcoin..

 
not too surprised to be honest  


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on October 08, 2014, 12:10:54 PM
The USA have a track record for destabilizing Russia's economy. This is their way of keeping the russian citizens down.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: coinut on October 08, 2014, 12:15:04 PM
The USA have a track record for destabilizing Russia's economy. This is their way of keeping the russian citizens down.

may I ask what this has to do with Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: WindowedCore on October 08, 2014, 12:19:17 PM
The USA have a track record for destabilizing Russia's economy. This is their way of keeping the russian citizens down.

may I ask what this has to do with Bitcoin?

Yeah, how is this relevant? 


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: DannyHamilton on October 08, 2014, 12:27:58 PM
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Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: Elwar on October 08, 2014, 12:30:15 PM
The USA have a track record for destabilizing Russia's economy. This is their way of keeping the russian citizens down.

may I ask what this has to do with Bitcoin?

Pay no attention, dude is batshit crazy...usually doesn't stray from the Politics subforum.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: jacktheking on October 08, 2014, 12:42:04 PM
I wonder what makes them ban bitcoin. Look like less people is supporting Bitcoin nowadays.

Less people? How?

Russia is the largest country (however, not largest population). Thus, if Russia ban bitcoin, about half the population of human will not be able to use bitcoin.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on October 08, 2014, 12:54:31 PM
If the Bitcoin community failed to prevent the Central Banks from banning Bitcoin in Russia. USA will be able to ban Bitcoin next.
The 13 inbred Terrorist European Bloodlines using their Central Banks to own & control USA & Russia. When you look at their country's flag you will notice the 3 colors "Red, Blue, and White"

These are "central colors" of "Central Banks" to let their inbred children know that they are the same. The people in control of these country are biological family members of the 13 inbred Terrorist European Bloodlines related to each other by DNA.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: DannyHamilton on October 08, 2014, 01:53:08 PM
Russia is the largest country (however, not largest population). Thus, if Russia ban bitcoin, about half the population of human will not be able to use bitcoin.

World Population:
7,125 million (approximately)

Russia Population:
144 million (approximately)

I don't think "about half" means what you think it means.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: Elwar on October 08, 2014, 02:00:28 PM
I wonder what makes them ban bitcoin. Look like less people is supporting Bitcoin nowadays.

Less people? How?

Russia is the largest country (however, not largest population). Thus, if Russia ban bitcoin, about half the population of human will not be able to use bitcoin.

China banned Bitcoin and yet they have the highest volume of trades.

If Russia bans Bitcoin the trade volume will be through the roof.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: BitcoinExchangeIndia.com on October 08, 2014, 02:04:39 PM
I wonder what makes them ban bitcoin. Look like less people is supporting Bitcoin nowadays.

Less people? How?

Russia is the largest country (however, not largest population). Thus, if Russia ban bitcoin, about half the population of human will not be able to use bitcoin.

China banned Bitcoin and yet they have the highest volume of trades.

If Russia bans Bitcoin the trade volume will be through the roof.

Banned things are used more aggressively in Russia and China.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: spazzdla on October 08, 2014, 02:10:05 PM
This is a sign that Russia actually has no F***ing clue what they are doing with their monetary policy.. not one single F***ing idea.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: franky1 on October 08, 2014, 02:39:55 PM
banning bitcoin will be like prohibiting vodka


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: p2pbucks on October 08, 2014, 02:48:56 PM
personally ,i think Russia ban is not a bad news .
Just like USA Dry Law , this kind of prohibition would boost people's incentive of using bitcoin to protect their property from RUBLE devaluation .
As you can see , ruble value is declining very fast against dollar recently ,thats the reason Puting Gov bans bitcoin . 


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: ChuckBuck on October 08, 2014, 02:53:13 PM
Dam Russkies always pulling some ass backwards sh$t regarding policy.  Always something brewing government wise between them and China, before they inevitably reverse course.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzBNAqiIgAAL7o0.png:large

Every year it seems they try to pass it as law, we'll see how long this stands up.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: Chris_Sabian on October 08, 2014, 02:59:50 PM
How would this even be enforced? 



Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: RustyNomad on October 08, 2014, 03:11:10 PM
This will just make Bitcoin even more popular, people want what they're not allowed or able to have....


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: chopstick on October 08, 2014, 03:39:49 PM
Russia is currently experiencing a decline in the valuation of it's home currency (the ruble.) This is causing them a lot of economic headache.

Of course, the reason that this is happening is because of the USA and western-backed sanctions over the conflict in Ukraine.

Likely they are "banning" bitcoin as a pre-emptive measure to protect the Ruble from further devaluation.

The fact that they realize bitcoin is a threat to their own currency is telling.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: allthingsluxury on October 08, 2014, 04:08:29 PM
Pathetic. Simply pathetic.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: Mirdude on October 08, 2014, 04:38:30 PM
Which countries does this apply to?

It would be funny if this took place in America.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: SaltySpitoon on October 08, 2014, 04:44:22 PM
I wonder if you will be able to pay your fines in Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: spooderman on October 08, 2014, 05:29:29 PM
Russia bans use of alternative currency.

States penalties for use in USD.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: ArticMine on October 08, 2014, 05:35:07 PM
How would this even be enforced? 



Simple. Use the DRM already built into Microsoft and Apple products, and you have control over 98% of the desktop / laptop market.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: Eotnak on October 08, 2014, 05:49:56 PM
How would this even be enforced? 



Simple. Use the DRM already built into Microsoft and Apple products, and you have control over 98% of the desktop / laptop market.

I smell a new flavor of Linux:  Bitux

As soon as someone works the Kernel, I'm going to get to work on the dual boot install script for Windows users.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: RodeoX on October 08, 2014, 05:55:21 PM
Now I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. When Russia announces Putin-coins. "The coin you MUST use!"


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: ArticMine on October 08, 2014, 06:16:42 PM
How would this even be enforced?  



Simple. Use the DRM already built into Microsoft and Apple products, and you have control over 98% of the desktop / laptop market.

I smell a new flavor of Linux:  Bitux

As soon as someone works the Kernel, I'm going to get to work on the dual boot install script for Windows users.

One has to be careful here since there are ex2/ex3/ex4 drivers for Windows so it is possible for the Windows system to wipe out files in the GNU/Linux dual boot. A similar thing can also occur with network shares on a GNU/Linux machine that can be written to from Windows. Before one starts to think of paranoia here there are a few things to keep in mind. Microsoft has provided the FSB (The successor the the KGB) with access to the Windows source code. There is also the section in the Windows EULA on malicious software. One must keep in mind that if the Russian Government  deems crypto-currency illegal then Microsoft would be within their rights to remove any crypto-currency software, including such files as wallet.dat, from computers running Windows in Russia. Then there has already been a precedent of Apple using the DRM in IOS to suppresses the teachings of the Dalai Lama at the request of the Chinese Government.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: h4xx0r on October 08, 2014, 06:32:37 PM
Is this legitimate? Normally i would be all against this, but based on how judgemental this community is and with all of the scammers to blame, i approve. Until crypto has regulation i cannot fully support it. 


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: Eotnak on October 08, 2014, 06:46:18 PM
How would this even be enforced?  



Simple. Use the DRM already built into Microsoft and Apple products, and you have control over 98% of the desktop / laptop market.

I smell a new flavor of Linux:  Bitux

As soon as someone works the Kernel, I'm going to get to work on the dual boot install script for Windows users.

One has to be careful here since there are ex2/ex3/ex4 drivers for Windows so it is possible for the Windows system to wipe out files in the GNU/Linux dual boot. A similar thing can also occur with network shares on a GNU/Linux machine that can be written to from Windows. Before one starts to think of paranoia here there are a few things to keep in mind. Microsoft has provided the FSB (The successor the the KGB) with access to the Windows source code. There is also the section in the Windows EULA on malicious software. One must keep in mind that if the Russian Government  deems crypto-currency illegal then Microsoft would be within their rights to remove any crypto-currency software, including such files as wallet.dat, from computers running Windows in Russia. Then there has already been a precedent of Apple using the DRM in IOS to suppresses the teachings of the Dalai Lama at the request of the Chinese Government.

Wow I had no idea about the FSB and Dalai Lama stuff.  I guess Bitux will have to run alone with warnings about dual boot systems.  Plus there's also Android!  Who wants to make the Russian Bitcoin ROM?


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: leopard2 on October 08, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
SO...After using CHINA BAN BITCOIN meme for the 2417. time, it has lost its effect

NOW..RUSSIA BAN BITCOIN meme is being invoked, to try to get sub $200 coins?

YAWN  :-[


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: hellscabane on October 08, 2014, 10:29:52 PM
Russia has been on a serious streak of stupid bans. And the sad thing is that this ban isn't even remotely near the "stupidest" of bans within the past few months.

Just remember, they've banned the import of food from a whole bunch of countries. That led to food prices increasing by a bunch of percentage points within a few weeks.

The bitcoin ban was somewhat anticipated and surprisingly not as "stupid." Then again, as mentioned, how the hell are they gonna enforce this?



Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: BayAreaCoins on October 08, 2014, 10:37:43 PM
I wonder if you will be able to pay your fines in Bitcoin?

Wonderful service idea :P



Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: r3c4ll on October 08, 2014, 11:49:53 PM
I hope Maduro (president of Venezuela) does'nt see this post :)


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: h4xx0r on October 09, 2014, 12:11:00 AM
Wow this is full of trolls and loons lets clear things up!

1)This has not and will not happen in the US, America is getting businesses that deal with bitcoin to open and they pay taxes
2)Russia probably won't have this pass
3)"Actor"Tom_Truong  is full core insane and all europeans are not inbred and there is no conspiracy here
4)Cary on like usual even if a ban happened there would be zero enforcement.

I agree on points 1,2,3 and but i'm not sure 4 is true, especially if russia approves the ban. Its hard to see them pass it though. they would stand to gain financially by launching bitcoin related commerce projects.


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: bigasic on October 09, 2014, 12:14:36 AM
Governments and big banks HATE bitcoin, so they will do anything and everything to bring it down. Russias ban on bitcoin wont succeed. Other countries im sure will follow suit, but the best way to go is if you cant beat em join em...


Title: Re: Businesses get $25,000 fine for using Bitcoin, $2507 fine for gov officials
Post by: Connor936 on October 09, 2014, 12:16:18 AM
I wonder what makes them ban bitcoin. Look like less people is supporting Bitcoin nowadays.

Less people? How?

Russia is the largest country (however, not largest population). Thus, if Russia ban bitcoin, about half the population of human will not be able to use bitcoin.

China banned Bitcoin and yet they have the highest volume of trades.

If Russia bans Bitcoin the trade volume will be through the roof.
Russia banning bitcoin can and will cause the trade volume to decrease to levels that would be less then they otherwise would be at. It will probably still have high trading volume because their economy is not stable and bitcoin provides some level of stability to unstable economies (especially when the banking sector in such country is less then certain to survive)