Title: Hosting a gambling site Post by: KaozTiposta on October 09, 2014, 09:33:44 AM I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license).
What other sites are using to host their services? Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: bluelithium on October 09, 2014, 09:50:03 AM I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license). What other sites are using to host their services? U may like to use http://BestHostFree.com VPS for hosting gambling sites. Following is our reputation thread => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=617213.0 Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: KaozTiposta on October 09, 2014, 10:21:34 AM I would prefer big companies like Amazon but certainly will check out!
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: RocketSingh on October 09, 2014, 10:48:49 AM I would prefer big companies like Amazon but certainly will check out! AFAIK Heroku, Amazon or Google App engine does not allow betting website without license. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: crazy-pilot on October 09, 2014, 10:59:49 AM If your gambling site has no license you better find an offshore hosting sites just a precaution.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: cloverme on October 09, 2014, 04:40:57 PM I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license). What other sites are using to host their services? Even if you have a license, some providers won't allow gambling like AWS. It's more than likely that a competitor tipped off Amazon to dice.ninja/Moneypot. Check out this site, it has some listings to start from. EDIS has some good prices... http://www.internationalman.com/articles/the-best-offshore-web-hosting-services Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: RocketSingh on October 09, 2014, 05:20:56 PM I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license). What other sites are using to host their services? Even if you have a license, some providers won't allow gambling like AWS. It's more than likely that a competitor tipped off Amazon to dice.ninja/Moneypot. Check out this site, it has some listings to start from. EDIS has some good prices... http://www.internationalman.com/articles/the-best-offshore-web-hosting-services How is NameCheap as a hosting solution for gambling sites ? They accept Bitcoin as well... Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: newIndia on October 09, 2014, 07:04:20 PM Also not clear if I can continue using CloudFlare: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/f0lmlb6l9q465kn/z9a_z_8a.png Edit: CloudFlare is awesome! They have enough backbone to continue to offer me service! Where are you hosted now ? It seems some competing company is behind all these reports. Why dont U check out where the top ones are hosted and move over there ? Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 247casino on October 09, 2014, 08:19:21 PM .....
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 247casino on October 09, 2014, 08:29:03 PM U may like to use http://BestHostFree.com VPS for hosting gambling sites. Following is our reputation thread => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=617213.0 I checked out your vps best you have is 1g memory a casino script needs way more at least the high end ones do try running 50 tables with 500 people on anything less than a dedicated server with a lot of memory SWC is an example they use a WIN based script and the guy that made it says minor traffic you need minimum of 4G to run it SWC probably has a dedicated server with a huge memory base nothing against you trying to grab some casino hosting brother but 1G memory is the max your site shows for vps and vps isn't really the way to go to run complex scripts and stuff bitcoin gambling is exploding and IMO it needs a dedicated server probably in amsterdam if you have traffic plus amsterdam would be great for any silk road stuff too I don't think any of the cheap gaming license countries really have the net infrastructure to do casino hosting in volume plus who knows who they would have in the NOC with access to the server I think a major NOC for btc has to open soon that's bullet proof to USA and other potential countries that may impose regulations on btc Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: KaozTiposta on October 09, 2014, 09:11:47 PM Thanks for replies, I think there are only a few Bitcoin Gambling sites that has license for gambling, other hundreds of site don't has any license. I still wonder where are they hosting? (I'm not looking for local-small VPS companies.)
Also not clear if I can continue using CloudFlare: .. Edit: CloudFlare is awesome! They have enough backbone to continue to offer me service! Espringe I am really sorry for you, I hope you find that bastard who complains you to your providers. He is probably reading your posts in this forum, so it's better to not share again. Also, why are you using CloudFlare? I guess to prevent DDOSes? Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: bluelithium on October 09, 2014, 09:31:47 PM U may like to use http://BestHostFree.com VPS for hosting gambling sites. Following is our reputation thread => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=617213.0 I checked out your vps best you have is 1g memory a casino script needs way more at least the high end ones do try running 50 tables with 500 people on anything less than a dedicated server with a lot of memory SWC is an example they use a WIN based script and the guy that made it says minor traffic you need minimum of 4G to run it SWC probably has a dedicated server with a huge memory base nothing against you trying to grab some casino hosting brother but 1G memory is the max your site shows for vps and vps isn't really the way to go to run complex scripts and stuff bitcoin gambling is exploding and IMO it needs a dedicated server probably in amsterdam if you have traffic plus amsterdam would be great for any silk road stuff too I don't think any of the cheap gaming license countries really have the net infrastructure to do casino hosting in volume plus who knows who they would have in the NOC with access to the server I think a major NOC for btc has to open soon that's bullet proof to USA and other potential countries that may impose regulations on btc 1GB Memory is the standard of Advanced VPS package (http://besthostfree.com/signup.html?vps_id=703). It does not mean you cant increase it on your need. Even if you go for Starter VPS package (http://besthostfree.com/signup.html?vps_id=701), which by default offers 512 MB dedicated RAM, U can increase it upto any level. Not only dedicated RAM, but also Disk Space, Bandwidth anything can be increased in any VPS plan. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 247casino on October 09, 2014, 09:42:35 PM You have 3 small ram packages, the big package says 1G ram
you select any of your vps packages and there is no add ram options maybe you need to relook at your ordering page no way to order vps and customize any option that I see you have 3 canned packages maybe you're confusing it with dedicated servers? Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 247casino on October 09, 2014, 09:48:53 PM ok did a test
selected your 1G max ram package then on next page you have two minor memory upgrades 256mb is the max upgrade again that means 1.2 gig is max you are offering for vps way too little ram buddy to try to get people to do vps with you for a casino script when minor traffic the developer is saying you need min 4g ram say maybe you need to add some big ram upgrades then you can honestly try to sell to casino guys my 2 cents but your overall rates are very cheap they just won't do for a real casino script that hogs memory also vps is often killed by other users on the server so anyone really doing casino sites needs a dedicated server that's still my opinion personally I've never seen a big ram allocation for vps servers can only handle so much ram on board so when you let one low end account (which vps is) buy all the ram, no one else can be on the server that's the problem Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: bluelithium on October 09, 2014, 11:33:09 PM ok did a test selected your 1G max ram package then on next page you have two minor memory upgrades 256mb is the max upgrade again that means 1.2 gig is max you are offering for vps way too little ram buddy to try to get people to do vps with you for a casino script when minor traffic the developer is saying you need min 4g ram say maybe you need to add some big ram upgrades then you can honestly try to sell to casino guys my 2 cents but your overall rates are very cheap they just won't do for a real casino script that hogs memory also vps is often killed by other users on the server so anyone really doing casino sites needs a dedicated server that's still my opinion personally I've never seen a big ram allocation for vps servers can only handle so much ram on board so when you let one low end account (which vps is) buy all the ram, no one else can be on the server that's the problem Thank you for testing out yourself. I'm sorry to say your test result is not correct here. The smallest unit for RAM upgrade is 256MB. That means you can not ask for an upgrade of 64MB or 128MB, but you can go for any multiple of 256MB. So, providing 4GB, 8GB or 16GB RAM is NOT the problem with our VPS. Also we offer the following features on our XEN VPS as you will also find on http://besthostfree.com/vps-hosting.html
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 247casino on October 09, 2014, 11:47:23 PM I dont see that option brother
I see 256mb you select you get banged a whole year then there's no place to say bang me 12 times to even get near 4g so a month is whatever then if you need more ram the 256mb is a whole year not a month you say there's an option to choose a multiple of 256mb I don't see it if there was though, it would be 12 times at the year price for a monthly service my 2 cents brother, you need to really have a large memory ram for vps and try it you can't select more than a 256mb upgrade now let's say I'm a dummy and can see the option to select more than one 256mb unit which I swear is not there you then have to pay for a year of ram? people want month to month deals on projects so my 2 micro satoshi you need way more ram if you really want to offer such vps to casino guys I did 3 poker projects the last month all were dedicated overseas servers that's what a casino needs now if anyone wants to try to select your vps package they see 256mb is not scaleable and it's banged at a whole year not a casino host brother sorry to burst your bubble but the prices are ok for low end hosting for sites without custom scripts Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: newIndia on October 10, 2014, 12:08:43 AM I dont see that option brother I see 256mb you select you get banged a whole year then there's no place to say bang me 12 times to even get near 4g so a month is whatever then if you need more ram the 256mb is a whole year not a month you say there's an option to choose a multiple of 256mb I don't see it if there was though, it would be 12 times at the year price for a monthly service my 2 cents brother, you need to really have a large memory ram for vps and try it you can't select more than a 256mb upgrade now let's say I'm a dummy and can see the option to select more than one 256mb unit which I swear is not there you then have to pay for a year of ram? people want month to month deals on projects so my 2 micro satoshi you need way more ram if you really want to offer such vps to casino guys I did 3 poker projects the last month all were dedicated overseas servers that's what a casino needs now if anyone wants to try to select your vps package they see 256mb is not scaleable and it's banged at a whole year not a casino host brother sorry to burst your bubble but the prices are ok for low end hosting for sites without custom scripts With few others on this board, I have also used their service as u'll find here => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=617213.0 Its true that there is no limit of upgrading RAM in BestHostFree.com VPS service and the smallest unit of upgrade is 256 MB. I think it can be purchased only when U have already purchased a VPS plan. U cant allocate extra amount of RAM as per will at the time of choosing the package. But I wonder why a serious Gambling site (or whatever website) will purchase RAM for a month unless they want to SCAM their customers !!! Though I dont have any gambling site, I do have some high traffic sites. They are running fine on BestHostFree. And you are correct... this service is cheap compared to the competition, but quality is good. Please note that, I initially registered with their free hosting package for a very small website. There I faced downtime. Then, I communicated with their support and upgraded. Since then I have not faced any big issue and then I went for the VPS. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 247casino on October 10, 2014, 12:20:21 AM How many times above did I say you need a dedicated server for real gambling?
What you invest in scripts and custom programming is a lot compared to hosting So when I saw a guy with vps trying to sell it to others not me per se I said vps is not the way to go Then I said besides you only have 1G and a 256mb pop You need 4G minimum So I know what 'real casino' setups need and buy, dedicated servers Yet he's trying to sell hosting with low memory Now if you can upgrade memory, do it on front end No one running a real casino with heavy scripts will want vps as I said But since the guy is trying to put his vps stuff here, the least he could do is sell a decent memory package for a real casino But a real casino would never look at vps as I said already Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: newIndia on October 10, 2014, 12:38:16 AM How many times above did I say you need a dedicated server for real gambling? - You dont. Some VPS providers offer same features as of dedicated server. That is the case here. Read their post with feature details again. What you invest in scripts and custom programming is a lot compared to hosting So when I saw a guy with vps trying to sell it to others not me per se I said vps is not the way to go Then I said besides you only have 1G and a 256mb pop You need 4G minimum - More than 4GB RAM is offered here. But you wont get that unless you buy any package. Please take your time to read what they are offering. So I know what 'real casino' setups need and buy, dedicated servers Yet he's trying to sell hosting with low memory Now if you can upgrade memory, do it on front end No one running a real casino with heavy scripts will want vps as I said But since the guy is trying to put his vps stuff here, the least he could do is sell a decent memory package for a real casino But a real casino would never look at vps as I said already I have replied in your post. But it seems you first need to read what the support is writing before writing back your nagging assumptions here. What U hav stated in the long post above can be summarized in 2 line... 1. 4 GB RAM is minimum requirement 2. Dedicated Server is required as VPS resources can be eaten up by other users Support has already addressed both these concerns... 1. You can buy 4 GB, 8 GB, 16 GB RAM with VPS. My personal experience is U need to have the VPS package at first to order those extra RAM. 2. They are offering Dedicated server like isolation with Full root access. So I dont see any concern for other users to eat up my resource. Now, please re-read the thread once again before writing up another long essay with baseless assumptions. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: a1choi on October 10, 2014, 12:48:38 AM thanks for sharing info guys. will take a look at the list of potential other hosting services
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 247casino on October 10, 2014, 01:31:26 AM I have replied in your post. But it seems you first need to read what the support is writing before writing back your nagging assumptions here. What U hav stated in the long post above can be summarized in 2 line... 1. 4 GB RAM is minimum requirement 2. Dedicated Server is required as VPS resources can be eaten up by other users Support has already addressed both these concerns... 1. You can buy 4 GB, 8 GB, 16 GB RAM with VPS. My personal experience is U need to have the VPS package at first to order those extra RAM. 2. They are offering Dedicated server like isolation with Full root access. So I dont see any concern for other users to eat up my resource. Now, please re-read the thread once again before writing up another long essay with baseless assumptions. Someone asked about casino hosting Someone else put a low cost domain hosting solution in thread I saw he had vps and stated his 1G was too little He says you can upgrade, yet his site force a year buy for only 256mb upgrade As I pointed out over and over vps is not the way to go for any serious casino hosting I also pointed out the low ball hosting offer was not something you can add easily all the ram you need which is 4G for even a minor traffic site running a minor script Maybe now anyone thinking about a casino host can realize you want to play in that market you better get a dedicated server with a ton of ram I have real world experience doing casino setups and no one uses vps No one with a real project, you get a real server and the server is the low cost of any casino project The real scripts are expensive and require lots of memory, not 1G with who know what are the costs to add tiny 256mb pops Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: m19 on October 10, 2014, 08:08:33 AM Also not clear if I can continue using CloudFlare: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/f0lmlb6l9q465kn/z9a_z_8a.png Edit: CloudFlare is awesome! They have enough backbone to continue to offer me service! I wonder if that's the reason you are selling. I totally get it. But CloudFlare doesn't care? Since PrimeDice for example also uses CloudFlare and is also unlicensed as far as I can see. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: a1choi on October 10, 2014, 08:15:11 AM I wonder if that's the reason you are selling. I totally get it. But CloudFlare doesn't care? Since PrimeDice for example also uses CloudFlare and is also unlicensed as far as I can see. I think CloudFlare's policy is quite relaxed, so it would be very out of character for CF to start cracking down here. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: newIndia on October 10, 2014, 11:35:05 AM I have replied in your post. But it seems you first need to read what the support is writing before writing back your nagging assumptions here. What U hav stated in the long post above can be summarized in 2 line... 1. 4 GB RAM is minimum requirement 2. Dedicated Server is required as VPS resources can be eaten up by other users Support has already addressed both these concerns... 1. You can buy 4 GB, 8 GB, 16 GB RAM with VPS. My personal experience is U need to have the VPS package at first to order those extra RAM. 2. They are offering Dedicated server like isolation with Full root access. So I dont see any concern for other users to eat up my resource. Now, please re-read the thread once again before writing up another long essay with baseless assumptions. Someone asked about casino hosting Someone else put a low cost domain hosting solution in thread I saw he had vps and stated his 1G was too little He says you can upgrade, yet his site force a year buy for only 256mb upgrade As I pointed out over and over vps is not the way to go for any serious casino hosting I also pointed out the low ball hosting offer was not something you can add easily all the ram you need which is 4G for even a minor traffic site running a minor script Maybe now anyone thinking about a casino host can realize you want to play in that market you better get a dedicated server with a ton of ram I have real world experience doing casino setups and no one uses vps No one with a real project, you get a real server and the server is the low cost of any casino project The real scripts are expensive and require lots of memory, not 1G with who know what are the costs to add tiny 256mb pops It seems there is no point wasting time to explain things to U. It is insane to believe that people who claim to have coded a poker site cant read facts and write to the point. So, I'll better keep quoting what is already stated... Quote 1. You can buy 4 GB, 8 GB, 16 GB RAM with VPS. My personal experience is U need to have the VPS package at first to order those extra RAM. 2. They are offering Dedicated server like isolation with Full root access. So I dont see any concern for other users to eat up my resource. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: pthnmj on October 10, 2014, 11:42:38 AM Well what I find funny about this report is that CLOUDFLARE doesn't act as a hosting site, which is why they still continue to give you service.... They are a DDOS Prevention >_<
Kathryn is dumb as fuck. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 247casino on October 10, 2014, 12:51:12 PM It seems there is no point wasting time to explain things to U. It is insane to believe that people who claim to have coded a poker site cant read facts and write to the point. So, I'll better keep quoting what is already stated... Quote 1. You can buy 4 GB, 8 GB, 16 GB RAM with VPS. My personal experience is U need to have the VPS package at first to order those extra RAM. 2. They are offering Dedicated server like isolation with Full root access. So I dont see any concern for other users to eat up my resource. I guess in India your grasp of English is still colonial. So what he says the vps is upgradeable, it's a BAD DEAL a. there is no clear upgrade of ram on the site before you buy you have 3 low end ram packages b. they force a person to pay a full year in advance for ram and PUBLICLY their top upgrade is only 256mb NOTHING in that size can handle a real casino script Unlike YOU I have 100% comprehension of what I read, so you have in this forum a guy that does cheap hosting trying to spam casino operators about a 1g memory vps. THERE IS NOTHING ON THE ORDER PAGE to backup your big bold quotes I guess you didn't go to the site I'm talking about did you? So you can jump up and down all you want here saying oh they have lots of memory, bs, they get a high fee for almost nothing in a memory upgrade, so the order page doesn't say 4G to 16G memory available on vps, it says 1G is the max package then after you select it, you get one option of 2 upgrades and the biggest is only 256mb I know about casino hosting, you don't, now you want to throw insults like you did saying I can't read, ok, go back to India tell them they should be buying a 1g vps package with 256mb memory upgrades you have to prepay a year on As I said over and over, you need dedicated server for real casino hosting and a ton of memory Some cheap host solution for a lousy 1G ram allocation trying to bang people for a year for 256mb upgrades and claim they do casino hosting is a joke So I'm calling a spade a spade, the post saying put casino hosting on his cheap service can't handle a real casino You post they have 4G upgrades, bs, there is nothing on the site I don't care you buy cheap hosting for junk sites with no traffic that need no memory from him His claims he can host a casino site are bogus You know I block all traffic from India on my own server, I hate that country, their food stinks, their people have BO and they are the cheapest people on the planet Cheap isn't always the solution Now go back to india Face it you're a shill account for the cheap host most likely The guy does what 2 buck USD or around that hosting and you buy that junk And now you're hear swearing he has 16G vps he wants a full year up front to upgrade 1G with a lousy 256mb memory that's his so-called public upgrade now you're hear saying well AFTER you purchase you can get 16G haha go back to INDIA Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: newIndia on October 10, 2014, 01:31:18 PM It seems there is no point wasting time to explain things to U. It is insane to believe that people who claim to have coded a poker site cant read facts and write to the point. So, I'll better keep quoting what is already stated... Quote 1. You can buy 4 GB, 8 GB, 16 GB RAM with VPS. My personal experience is U need to have the VPS package at first to order those extra RAM. 2. They are offering Dedicated server like isolation with Full root access. So I dont see any concern for other users to eat up my resource. I guess in India your grasp of English is still colonial. So what he says the vps is upgradeable, it's a BAD DEAL a. there is no clear upgrade of ram on the site before you buy you have 3 low end ram packages b. they force a person to pay a full year in advance for ram and PUBLICLY their top upgrade is only 256mb NOTHING in that size can handle a real casino script Unlike YOU I have 100% comprehension of what I read, so you have in this forum a guy that does cheap hosting trying to spam casino operators about a 1g memory vps. THERE IS NOTHING ON THE ORDER PAGE to backup your big bold quotes I guess you didn't go to the site I'm talking about did you? So you can jump up and down all you want here saying oh they have lots of memory, bs, they get a high fee for almost nothing in a memory upgrade, so the order page doesn't say 4G to 16G memory available on vps, it says 1G is the max package then after you select it, you get one option of 2 upgrades and the biggest is only 256mb I know about casino hosting, you don't, now you want to throw insults like you did saying I can't read, ok, go back to India tell them they should be buying a 1g vps package with 256mb memory upgrades you have to prepay a year on As I said over and over, you need dedicated server for real casino hosting and a ton of memory Some cheap host solution for a lousy 1G ram allocation trying to bang people for a year for 256mb upgrades and claim they do casino hosting is a joke So I'm calling a spade a spade, the post saying put casino hosting on his cheap service can't handle a real casino You post they have 4G upgrades, bs, there is nothing on the site I don't care you buy cheap hosting for junk sites with no traffic that need no memory from him His claims he can host a casino site are bogus You know I block all traffic from India on my own server, I hate that country, their food stinks, their people have BO and they are the cheapest people on the planet Cheap isn't always the solution Now go back to india Face it you're a shill account for the cheap host most likely The guy does what 2 buck USD or around that hosting and you buy that junk And now you're hear swearing he has 16G vps he wants a full year up front to upgrade 1G with a lousy 256mb memory that's his so-called public upgrade now you're hear saying well AFTER you purchase you can get 16G haha go back to INDIA You are blabbering the same BS. So there is no point explaining you once again. If you could read English U would have known that I already stated that tested the service myself and then only talking about it. I have explained twice why their VPS is equivalent to a dedicated server and wont explain it again. You also dont know that all traffic from a country cant be blocked directly. There are things exist called Tor. What I was doubting is now confirmed. You never coded any gambling site and you have no knowledge of the things you are talking about. Where r u from Mornon ? Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 247casino on October 10, 2014, 02:42:48 PM You are blabbering the same BS. So there is no point explaining you once again. If you could read English U would have known that I already stated that tested the service myself and then only talking about it. I have explained twice why their VPS is equivalent to a dedicated server and wont explain it again. You also dont know that all traffic from a country cant be blocked directly. There are things exist called Tor. What I was doubting is now confirmed. You never coded any gambling site and you have no knowledge of the things you are talking about. Where r u from Mornon ? You're a shill for the cheap india host poster or the cheap host yourself No one paying a few bucks for cheap hosting is gonna post over and over the same bs You do not run casinos nor ever created one I do casino projects and now have 5 in the works and 2 are launched and working fine I do large scale development projects and btc and casinos are the new rage The reason I blocked India THE WHOLE COUNTRY is we got tired of broken english curry slurping cheap bad coding MORONS (the right way to spell the word cuz) emailing us and calling us. We want nothing to do with India, yet we do hire 3rd world people, but India, we refuse to hire anyone from their due to our own bias against the culture and all the cheap idiots we met over the years connected to India tech companies that always fail to do the proper job IN OUR OPINION. So what someone can proxy through Tor, you know how easy it is to block Tor on a site which we do as well. Like I said I DO CASINO PROJECTS and it's obvious the hosting company saying they can use vps with 1G ram and you are connected and if anyone thinking about a casino project tries it on vps they are in the MORON class too. VPS has inherent problems which I won't bother to explain here VPS and casino hosting = DO NOT DO IT Final word, all your bs posts supporting the vps offer for casino hosting shows you are the person offering the services IMO You're clueless Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: bluelithium on October 10, 2014, 03:32:02 PM I'd not involve myself into the murky conversation that is going on here. Thanks to newIndia for your support, but please refrain from further extending this conversation. We have customers across the globe and dont intend to hurt the sentiment of any country.
Just to note that our main data center is located at Kiel, Germany. One can have a data center tour here => http://besthostfree.com/data-center.html As part of the VPS offering, we provide root access to our customers, i.e. customer can reboot his own VPS like a dedicated server. Allocated resource to the customer is never shared. As we provide dedicated resource to our VPS customers, allocating RAM is a manual process. It can easily be ordered once the customer gets into the control panel. Any customized resource may also be ordered upfront, but for that customer needs to communicate with sales department. At this moment of writing, sales chat is live on our site. As extra RAM is physically added to the customer's server, it is required to buy for at least a year and hence additional RAM orders are yearly. The reason for our cheap offer is we dont spend directly on marketing. Most of our sales come from Affiliate Program => http://besthostfree.com/hosting-affiliate-program.html. Hence we have been able to keep the cost lower than the competition, but still been able to provide good service. I hope, I have been able to clarify the reasons to chose http://besthostfree.com/vps-hosting.html as your trusted hosting provider. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 247casino on October 10, 2014, 08:43:34 PM Until you have a dedicated server with lots of ram and mega bandwidth at a decent price compared to those that do it
You're not a casino host level host brother Trying to push vps for a casino project is just wrong So push the vps and virtual hosting in other areas You want to say you host casino's get a competitve dedicated package You got tiny bw allocations, you got fractional ram upgrades everything about your 'casino hosting services' stinks Why you want to act like you host casinos with vps just shows your service is clueless Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: KaozTiposta on October 20, 2014, 01:21:38 PM Result : there is no company to host a gamling site.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: cloverme on October 20, 2014, 02:52:55 PM Result : there is no company to host a gamling site. Look for dedicated servers in Switzerland, the Netherlands, Curaçao, and Russia. Isle of Man and Singapore used to be okay, but they're starting new legislation to crackdown. Stay away from VPS services, due to security and privacy issues. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: KaozTiposta on October 20, 2014, 08:16:22 PM Result : there is no company to host a gamling site. Look for dedicated servers in Switzerland, the Netherlands, Curaçao, and Russia. Isle of Man and Singapore used to be okay, but they're starting new legislation to crackdown. Stay away from VPS services, due to security and privacy issues. www.tso host.com/knowledge-base/article/236/can-i-host-a-gambling-website Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: RocketSingh on November 13, 2014, 08:51:23 PM I would prefer big companies like Amazon but certainly will check out! Did u check that BestHostFree.com ? I tested it for some time. Can recommend the Semi-dedicate plan/VPS. The support is very quick to respond. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: auswalk on January 02, 2016, 05:15:14 AM Bumping this. I saw tsohost.com as a recommendation. Is this good or are the better ones? VPS IS NOT AN OPTION for what I need. Also I need a SAFE country that won't flake out at some point down the line hosting a gambling site.
Cloudflare is so awesome it blocks the ability for me to find out where all these sites are hosting, so I'm asking in this forum for some names. Appreciate it! Thanks Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: enhu on January 02, 2016, 05:49:17 AM its mostly the offshore hosting company that allows gambling sites without license, as far as I know some of them host nulled expensive scripts for websites.
It does sound illegal though, I'm not even sure if people would go for such gambling site to trust their bitcoin over but I suppose we don't care much about that when we're winning :) Bumping this. I saw tsohost.com as a recommendation. Is this good or are the better ones? VPS IS NOT AN OPTION for what I need. Also I need a SAFE country that won't flake out at some point down the line hosting a gambling site. Cloudflare is so awesome it blocks the ability for me to find out where all these sites are hosting, so I'm asking in this forum for some names. Appreciate it! Thanks Cloudfare serves just to make the site load faster and protection for DDoS as you replace your DNS with theirs. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: Joel_Jantsen on January 02, 2016, 07:45:13 AM There are probably a number of VPS services offered here in the forum's services section.Instead of going all main stream with AWS or any other reputed service ,its better to have the site hosted on a small dedicated server.I suggest you to find some VPS on darknet as well,they will be totally secure against Dos attacks and will be feasible for a gambling site.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: KenR on January 02, 2016, 07:57:02 AM There are a lot of good alternatives to AWS and Heroku.Here a few :
https://www.bluehost.com/vps https://mediatemple.net http://www.ipage.com/ https://www.justhost.com/vps You can read the reviews about them as well.They are actually pretty good. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: auswalk on January 02, 2016, 09:10:11 AM After several hours of research, I found this winner: https://coinshost.com/en/
Takes bitcoins , dedicated server, has its own propriety DDoS protection and is in SWITZERLAND exclusively. THere are no a laws regarding online gaming licensing in switzerland. Swizterland is not part of the EU either so you are Golden here. THe other option is the the costa rica monoply provider site, but I can't see that being anywhere close to reliable enough to run a casino. Everything I read says the rest of the EU countries you can run into regulatory problems. SWITZERLAND is your only and best place to host. Keep all your files exclusively there and you should be good to go. That includes CDNS, everything. Tunnel is not a problem just have nothing facing or reading any files beyond the swiss border. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: FrueGreads on January 02, 2016, 01:08:45 PM hmm licenses apply to the btc world as well? I mean of course they do but I always thought no one really cared and most sites did not had a license.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: auswalk on January 02, 2016, 10:19:13 PM They don't care until they do care. if You are raking in $50K a month I guarantee you they will care. Stay off the radar, don't attach your name to a damn thing and they will not bother you b/c they can't confirm you are a US citizen. Make a half ass attempt to bar US players to placate them and you should be ok, at least for 3+ years.
Pay you gambling taxes winnings and you should be fine. at the end of the day that govt is on no moral crusade, they just want their taxes. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: vendetahome on January 02, 2016, 10:32:23 PM thats strange that moneypot had to move its website from one service provider to another, technically they are not a gambling website they just let other people create gambling websites there
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: auswalk on January 02, 2016, 11:17:41 PM The California attorney sent a letter coming after someone bc one of the ip's trace to SF. Epic fail right there. Now this guy is in the dreaded legal crosshairs. He's screwed for lack of better word.
Stay off ANY server located in north america and only go to Euro countries that are neutral , not in the EU / Nato. Switzerland is the perfect spot. Nobody will ever fuck with those guys, never have, never will. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: hua_hui on January 03, 2016, 01:13:07 AM yah some country dont allow hosting of gambling site or anything related to digital currency. so if you need, you must check which country support and you can carry on from there. otherwise you may need to close down or even get into courts.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: VXII on March 10, 2017, 08:17:28 PM I am bumping this thread up.
@cloverme: What makes you concerned about VPS services in regards to privacy? One thing I am actually wondering about is if a cloud-based setup would be somewhat risky because the site is mirrored on servers in various countries/ jurisdictions. @auswalk: Switzerland just recently announced to ban online gambling related websites. I am not sure if this is a good place to host online gambling related websites anymore. As far as the EU is concerned, I believe the Netherlands might be a good choice. Please correct me if I am wrong. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: cloverme on March 11, 2017, 01:47:40 AM I am bumping this thread up. @cloverme: What makes you concerned about VPS services in regards to privacy? One thing I am actually wondering about is if a cloud-based setup would be somewhat risky because the site is mirrored on servers in various countries/ jurisdictions. Sure, so in regards to VPS and privacy, it all boils down to ownership of the virtual server. Unless you go through a lot of due diligence for encryption at rest and in transit, including configuration through a secure encrypted shell to ensure that the host isn't snooping on your sessions, then I would consider using a VPS for managing cryptocurrency to be very risky. You have to remember that most system administrators take short cuts to get their systems online as fast as possible, especially with lamp stacks, so these shortcuts may lead to openings. Known vulnerabilities or malicious ones might be hiding in the images that the VPS was deployed from, so there might be a backdoor there waiting. It may not even be on the virtual guest end but on the physical host end as well. Low end service providers offering virtual servers might be compromised through system administration weaknesses on the host provider side. As an example, host management may not be secured to specific workstations and those workstations may not be a rigorously managed as one might think. As consumers, we're often led to believe that extensive security is in place because the word "secure" and graphic of a lock is in place when you're shopping for your VPS. However, the system admin staff might be accessing the systems from their home computers or the host systems might even be running from home-built datacenter in a shed or basement. Granted, these types of situation would be with smaller niche VPS providers. The popular hosting tiers 1-3 take due diligence a little more seriously, but you should still be wary. Anything online and in someone else's building is out of your control. That being said, you should look for the following services as a customer to help mitigate your risk as compensating controls: 1) Two factor authentication. You should not be able to administer your VPS via web-console without providing two-factor authentication. 2) You should be able to restrict access to your VPS through a managed firewall outside of your VPS (not using the virtual guest OS as a firewall) 3) You want to make sure that no one can compromise your email account, reset your hosting password, get access to the VPS console, and steal your data. Lock down your own email account, move to a provider that offers secure encrypted email with multifactor authentication. 4) Add notes (if possible) to your VPS account telling them not to reset any passwords over the phone. Email the admins and ask them how to secure your account against identify theft to access your account. If they don't know, move to somewhere else. If you're going to be managing large amounts of cryptocurrency on a VPS, you should consider doing the following: 1) Encrypt the entire file system of your virtual guest to a cipher that is supported under FIPS 140-2 (AES256 as an example) 2) Use SSH with a private key to access your system remotely. 3) Close all open ports inbound and outbound, only open ports to specific hosts by direct ip addresses. (for SSH restrict the local ip of your VPS to your wan ip/firewall) 3a) Don't access your system from any unknown networks like from a starbucks or your friends house. 4) Change all the passwords and don't use root/administrator for logins. 5) Turn on logging and limit unsuccessful logon attempts. 6) Qualys scan your VPS before putting any cryptocurrency on there at all, you want to patch and remediate any serious risk. 7) When taking backups, make sure your backups are encrypted as well to the FIPS 140-2 standard ciphers. 8.) Protect your own workstations, if possible, use a dedicated system that you don't use daily if you manage your VPS. Keep it updated, offline when not in use, and encrypted. 9) Protect all your strong passwords (recommend you use passphrases) and secure them in an encrypted vault that you keep offline. While not in-expensive, the major hosts (aws, azure, etc) offer high-end cyber-security which is typically reserved for unclassified technical information using high standards to manage and monitor the infrastructure. You would use this type of infrastructure to manage large amounts of cryptocurrency to ensure the host has extra taken steps around due diligence to manage systems and access. This will be branded under ISO 27001 or NIST 800-53 and typically not available without exchanging emails or phone calls with them, it's not going to be a "next, next, buy" option. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: nicolecan13 on March 11, 2017, 06:52:28 AM U may like to use http ://BestHostFree.com VPS for hosting gambling sites. Website Hosting services. Try them out. Sign up with Gambling Site Hosting. A point and click web hosting CP.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: VXII on March 12, 2017, 07:38:06 PM @cloverme: Thanks a ton for your very detailed input! That is a lot more than I was expecting. There are many excellent points that I will consider when choosing my host.
Running a dedicated server is most certainly the safest option, but unless a person is hosting it themselves, there will be people who need to be trusted as well. Kudos to you! Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 0xfff on March 12, 2017, 08:21:35 PM I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license). What other sites are using to host their services? Probably any off shore webhost. Only usa really cares about internet gambling. Usa gov wants to keep gambling profit for themselves. :( Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: VXII on March 12, 2017, 09:16:18 PM @0xfff Only USA? I believe you have not looked at the online gambling laws abroad. There are different laws and restrictions in each country.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: 0xfff on March 12, 2017, 09:27:39 PM @0xfff Only USA? I believe you have not looked at the online gambling laws abroad. There are different laws and restrictions in each country. Are there any that are more strict that USA? Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: VXII on March 12, 2017, 09:59:19 PM France, Italy, Russia, China, UK, Portugal, Denmark and many other countries all have very strict laws against online gambling. Some of them block domains and financial transactions just like the U.S.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: game-protect on March 13, 2017, 02:36:30 AM - snip - What are the cheap gaming license countries?I don't think any of the cheap gaming license countries really have the net infrastructure to do casino hosting in volume Question is if it is required by the license to have the gaming server within the licensing country? Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: VXII on March 13, 2017, 10:59:16 AM @game-protect: It is usually the countries where the bananas grow. Particularly, Costa Rica, Curacao or Panama. These countries do not have a good hosting infrastructure though and are far away from the main markets. For this reason Switzerland or the Netherlands would be a good solution. Perhaps also other European/ Eastern European countries, but I am not aware of a particular one that would be suitable for hosting online gambling related websites.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: roadbits on March 13, 2017, 02:32:39 PM France, Italy, Russia, China, UK, Portugal, Denmark and many other countries all have very strict laws against online gambling. Some of them block domains and financial transactions just like the U.S. Yes but in all countries, we can access online gambling, especially in China and UK. and if you are looking for strict less countries means you can try in Asian countries. They don't have many restrictions against online gambling. The countries are Sri Lanka, India, Bangladesh, etc. here the governament will not put many restrictions on online gambling. I heard that in India they allowed A Rummy game site to make business legally in india. That site is paying tax to government. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: VXII on March 13, 2017, 08:49:35 PM @roadbits: Yes, anyone can play unregistered online casinos in any country, but that is a different subject. What I am trying to find is a suitable country to host a gambling affiliate website.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: Shady on March 13, 2017, 09:08:30 PM I tend to use expensive or private hosting for diverse content properties or those with functions in which users interact across databases with extensive data amounts. For the most part the casino industry takes lots of bandwidth so the use of full servers instead of shared plans may be more suitable.
In almost all cases with lots of traffic the hosting provider may force upgrades, so my strong suggestion would be to just set it up at the beginning. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: Vaskiy on March 13, 2017, 11:48:42 PM It's a profitable business to host own gambling website, because people used to invest into gambling websites for profit. For the same with the investment they made if they start a gambling site sure based on the features will get benefited. Because bitcoin is getting turned to be the only possibility to gamble in future.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: game-protect on March 14, 2017, 04:35:16 AM @game-protect: It is usually the countries where the bananas grow. Particularly, Costa Rica, Curacao or Panama. These countries do not have a good hosting infrastructure though and are far away from the main markets. For this reason Switzerland or the Netherlands would be a good solution. Perhaps also other European/ Eastern European countries, but I am not aware of a particular one that would be suitable for hosting online gambling related websites. 1) Curacao has a very good hosting infrastructure.2) The Netherlands has a regulated gambling market 3) Costa Rica might have a bad infrastructur but license cost only $3,500 per year? Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: el kaka22 on March 14, 2017, 07:30:44 AM I would prefer big companies like Amazon but certainly will check out! Amazon is a big company and actually renting their cloud would cost high and they would ask you to provide proper documents about your casino which you might not be able to provide given you have a bitcoin casino. I guess sites can be hosted on hundreds of providers and actually Moneypot is a enormous site under which a lot of sites run and hence they decided to switch knowing the terms of heroku.will take a look at the list of potential other hosting services If your host is safe enough than there is no need to go for big names, being safe is the biggest priority apart from host being online all the time. Just google and find the one that suits your needs beyond the suggested services.Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: JL421 on March 14, 2017, 01:25:31 PM Just google it there are many hosts out there or just look for an hyip script site they also provide hosting service which will surely allow your gambling site.
Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: VXII on March 14, 2017, 01:46:00 PM @game-protect: Curacao is attractive for some gambling operators but I am actually just looking for a country to host a gambling affiliate website in. Due to this no license would be required. I am also looking for a jurisdiction that is not too far away from Europe and Asia, which is where most visitors of the site would come from.
As far as Costa Rica and Panama go, they do not offer any gaming licenses. Anyone can simply register a gambling company there and start operating. That is why there are so many disreputable casinos and sportsbooks in these countries. However, that is a different subject. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: Monnt on March 14, 2017, 05:41:27 PM thats strange that moneypot had to move its website from one service provider to another, technically they are not a gambling website they just let other people create gambling websites there A bit right there but they are actually responsible for all the bets taking place on all the site under them and hence they also come under that category. Since they allow investment to their site makes them a even more of that category.I think hosting is not that big of a issue since even google provides hosting services now, I guess named google cloud. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: megynacuna on March 14, 2017, 05:53:17 PM I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license). What other sites are using to host their services? It's just better if you can buy your own servers and host your website if you don't want any external influences. Just buy server spaces online( typically those that are outside your country) and have them host the gambling site. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: chateaux on November 11, 2017, 01:24:27 PM I thought I would respond to this post in order to update the information:
The Question: Where to host a Bitcoin based gambling / casino website Since the question was posed quite a lot has and is changing in terms of law in order to provide a regulatory framework for bitcoin. This is essential in order to properly regulate companies and individuals who use Bitcoin as a means to transact. In Mauritius for instance, a "sandbox" license is now being issued. The idea is to offer a framework to companies wanting to set up ICOs. The purpose of the license is to at least have "some form of regulation" in place while legislators play catch up with technology. In terms of Gambling, the same is and will happen. This does not mean you "must" be regulated or licensed to operate anything Bitcoin since there is no form of central control so its highly unlikely someone is going to shut you down (unless they find you). With Gambling, more and more BitCoin casinos are opting for a Curacao based license (we can help you with that), however, this is not always affordable to small startups. So in terms of hosting, there really is no alternative other than to host with CuracaoWebhosting.com Bitcoin Gambling Hosting and Licensing (https://www.curacaowebhosting.com) servers are based in Curacao which is a gambling-friendly jurisdiction. Services offered: 1. Shared gambling servers from €29.95 per month (only use this if you are totally broke) 2. VPS servers start from around €95 per month (a good option, they use SSD drives and the servers are fast and redundant) 3. Dedicated servers, buy the hardware and send to the island (cheap if you need a lot of resources). Try and squeeze into a 1U machine though as it costs €150 per U. Fedex a server to the island will cost about €250 EUR. Another really good service to use is GamblingTec.com Gambling licensing for game developers (https://www.gamblingtec.com/). This entity holds a Curacao based gambling license, hosts, with CuracaoWebhosting.com and will work with you to get your game into a licensed environment. If you have the money to burn then get in touch with CuracaoWebhosting.com as they offer a Bitcoin casino licensing (http://www.curacaowebhosting.com/2018/04/11/bitcoin-casino-licensing/) service. You will spend around €28K to get all your ducks in a row in the first year. Here is some more information on the Curacao Gambling License (http://www.curacaowebhosting.com/2018/03/10/curacao-gambling-license/). Feel free to get in touch: SKYPE: brendanjnash email: brendan [at] curacaowebhosting.com Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: chateaux on April 13, 2018, 01:12:46 PM The only place to host your gambling website (https://www.curacaowebhosting.com)
Disclaimer: we do run the service and we are seeing more and more Bitcoin and altcoin companies join us. We can assist with licensing where applicable. If you Quote Bitcoin talk and mention you found us via this thread, we will sort you out with a discount on a VPS server. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: ArnoldChippy on April 13, 2018, 04:39:05 PM I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license). What other sites are using to host their services? It's just better if you can buy your own servers and host your website if you don't want any external influences. Just buy server spaces online( typically those that are outside your country) and have them host the gambling site. Title: Re: Hosting a gambling site Post by: OrangeSeller on April 17, 2018, 06:58:49 AM I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license). What other sites are using to host their services? It's just better if you can buy your own servers and host your website if you don't want any external influences. Just buy server spaces online( typically those that are outside your country) and have them host the gambling site. |