Hosting a gambling site

[KaozTiposta]

I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license).

What other sites are using to host their services?

[bluelithium]

I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license).

What other sites are using to host their services?

U may like to use http://BestHostFree.com VPS for hosting gambling sites. Following is our reputation thread => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=617213.0

[KaozTiposta]

I would prefer big companies like Amazon but certainly will check out!

[RocketSingh]

I would prefer big companies like Amazon but certainly will check out!

AFAIK Heroku, Amazon or Google App engine does not allow betting website without license.

[crazy-pilot]

If your gambling site has no license you better find an offshore hosting sites just a precaution.

[cloverme]

I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license).

What other sites are using to host their services?

Even if you have a license, some providers won't allow gambling like AWS.  It's more than likely that a competitor tipped off Amazon to dice.ninja/Moneypot.

Check out this site, it has some listings to start from. EDIS has some good prices...
http://www.internationalman.com/articles/the-best-offshore-web-hosting-services

[RocketSingh]

I saw MoneyPot had to move from Heroku and AWS because it's not allowed to host gambling site(without license).

What other sites are using to host their services?

Even if you have a license, some providers won't allow gambling like AWS.  It's more than likely that a competitor tipped off Amazon to dice.ninja/Moneypot.

Check out this site, it has some listings to start from. EDIS has some good prices...
http://www.internationalman.com/articles/the-best-offshore-web-hosting-services

How is NameCheap as a hosting solution for gambling sites ? They accept Bitcoin as well...

[newIndia]

Also not clear if I can continue using CloudFlare:




Edit: CloudFlare is awesome! They have enough backbone to continue to offer me service!

Where are you hosted now ? It seems some competing company is behind all these reports. Why dont U check out where the top ones are hosted and move over there ?

[247casino]

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[247casino]

U may like to use http://BestHostFree.com VPS for hosting gambling sites. Following is our reputation thread => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=617213.0

I checked out your vps

best you have is 1g memory

a casino script needs way more

at least the high end ones do

try running 50 tables with 500 people on anything less than a dedicated server with a lot of memory

SWC is an example they use a WIN based script and the guy that made it says minor traffic you need minimum of 4G to run it

SWC probably has a dedicated server with a huge memory base

nothing against you trying to grab some casino hosting brother

but 1G memory is the max your site shows for vps

and vps isn't really the way to go to run complex scripts and stuff

bitcoin gambling is exploding and IMO it needs a dedicated server probably in amsterdam

if you have traffic

plus amsterdam would be great for any silk road stuff too

I don't think any of the cheap gaming license countries really have the net infrastructure to do casino hosting in volume

plus who knows who they would have in the NOC with access to the server

I think a major NOC for btc has to open soon that's bullet proof to USA and other potential countries that may impose regulations on btc

[KaozTiposta]

Thanks for replies, I think there are only a few Bitcoin Gambling sites that has license for gambling, other hundreds of site don't has any license. I still wonder where are they hosting? (I'm not looking for local-small VPS companies.)

Also not clear if I can continue using CloudFlare:

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Edit: CloudFlare is awesome! They have enough backbone to continue to offer me service!

Espringe
I am really sorry for you, I hope you find that bastard who complains you to your providers. He is probably reading your posts in this forum, so it's better to not share again.

Also, why are you using CloudFlare? I guess to prevent DDOSes?

[bluelithium]

U may like to use http://BestHostFree.com VPS for hosting gambling sites. Following is our reputation thread => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=617213.0

I checked out your vps

best you have is 1g memory

a casino script needs way more

at least the high end ones do

try running 50 tables with 500 people on anything less than a dedicated server with a lot of memory

SWC is an example they use a WIN based script and the guy that made it says minor traffic you need minimum of 4G to run it

SWC probably has a dedicated server with a huge memory base

nothing against you trying to grab some casino hosting brother

but 1G memory is the max your site shows for vps

and vps isn't really the way to go to run complex scripts and stuff

bitcoin gambling is exploding and IMO it needs a dedicated server probably in amsterdam

if you have traffic

plus amsterdam would be great for any silk road stuff too

I don't think any of the cheap gaming license countries really have the net infrastructure to do casino hosting in volume

plus who knows who they would have in the NOC with access to the server

I think a major NOC for btc has to open soon that's bullet proof to USA and other potential countries that may impose regulations on btc

1GB Memory is the standard of Advanced VPS package. It does not mean you cant increase it on your need. Even if you go for Starter VPS package, which by default offers 512 MB dedicated RAM, U can increase it upto any level. Not only dedicated RAM, but also Disk Space, Bandwidth anything can be increased in any VPS plan.

[247casino]

You have 3 small ram packages, the big package says 1G ram

you select any of your vps packages and there is no add ram options

maybe you need to relook at your ordering page

no way to order vps and customize any option that I see

you have 3 canned packages

maybe you're confusing it with dedicated servers?

[247casino]

ok did a test

selected your 1G max ram package

then on next page you have two minor memory upgrades

256mb is the max upgrade

again that means 1.2 gig is max you are offering for vps

way too little ram buddy to try to get people to do vps with you for a casino script when minor traffic the developer is saying you need min 4g ram

say maybe you need to add some big ram upgrades then you can honestly try to sell to casino guys

my 2 cents

but your overall rates are very cheap

they just won't do for a real casino script that hogs memory

also vps is often killed by other users on the server

so anyone really doing casino sites needs a dedicated server

that's still my opinion

personally I've never seen a big ram allocation for vps

servers can only handle so much ram on board

so when you let one low end account (which vps is) buy all the ram, no one else can be on the server

that's the problem

[bluelithium]

ok did a test

selected your 1G max ram package

then on next page you have two minor memory upgrades

256mb is the max upgrade

again that means 1.2 gig is max you are offering for vps

way too little ram buddy to try to get people to do vps with you for a casino script when minor traffic the developer is saying you need min 4g ram

say maybe you need to add some big ram upgrades then you can honestly try to sell to casino guys

my 2 cents

but your overall rates are very cheap

they just won't do for a real casino script that hogs memory

also vps is often killed by other users on the server

so anyone really doing casino sites needs a dedicated server

that's still my opinion

personally I've never seen a big ram allocation for vps

servers can only handle so much ram on board

so when you let one low end account (which vps is) buy all the ram, no one else can be on the server

that's the problem

Thank you for testing out yourself. I'm sorry to say your test result is not correct here. The smallest unit for RAM upgrade is 256MB. That means you can not ask for an upgrade of 64MB or 128MB, but you can go for any multiple of 256MB. So, providing 4GB, 8GB or 16GB RAM is NOT the problem with our VPS.

Also we offer the following features on our XEN VPS as you will also find on http://besthostfree.com/vps-hosting.html

• Dedicated RAM & CPU
• Dedicated server like isolation
• Custom Firewall Configuration
• Independent kernel
• Any guest OS support
• Full root access

[247casino]

I dont see that option brother

I see 256mb

you select you get banged a whole year

then there's no place to say bang me 12 times to even get near 4g

so a month is whatever

then if you need more ram the 256mb is a whole year not a month

you say there's an option to choose a multiple of 256mb

I don't see it

if there was though, it would be 12 times at the year price for a monthly service

my 2 cents brother, you need to really have a large memory ram for vps and try it

you can't select more than a 256mb upgrade

now let's say I'm a dummy and can see the option to select more than one 256mb unit which I swear is not there

you then have to pay for a year of ram?

people want month to month deals on projects

so my 2 micro satoshi

you need way more ram if you really want to offer such vps to casino guys

I did 3 poker projects the last month

all were dedicated overseas servers

that's what a casino needs

now if anyone wants to try to select your vps package they see

256mb is not scaleable and it's banged at a whole year

not a casino host brother

sorry to burst your bubble

but the prices are ok for low end hosting for sites without custom scripts

[newIndia]

I dont see that option brother

I see 256mb

you select you get banged a whole year

then there's no place to say bang me 12 times to even get near 4g

so a month is whatever

then if you need more ram the 256mb is a whole year not a month

you say there's an option to choose a multiple of 256mb

I don't see it

if there was though, it would be 12 times at the year price for a monthly service

my 2 cents brother, you need to really have a large memory ram for vps and try it

you can't select more than a 256mb upgrade

now let's say I'm a dummy and can see the option to select more than one 256mb unit which I swear is not there

you then have to pay for a year of ram?

people want month to month deals on projects

so my 2 micro satoshi

you need way more ram if you really want to offer such vps to casino guys

I did 3 poker projects the last month

all were dedicated overseas servers

that's what a casino needs

now if anyone wants to try to select your vps package they see

256mb is not scaleable and it's banged at a whole year

not a casino host brother

sorry to burst your bubble

but the prices are ok for low end hosting for sites without custom scripts

With few others on this board, I have also used their service as u'll find here => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=617213.0

Its true that there is no limit of upgrading RAM in BestHostFree.com VPS service and the smallest unit of upgrade is 256 MB. I think it can be purchased only when U have already purchased a VPS plan. U cant allocate extra amount of RAM as per will at the time of choosing the package.

But I wonder why a serious Gambling site (or whatever website) will purchase RAM for a month unless they want to SCAM their customers !!!

Though I dont have any gambling site, I do have some high traffic sites. They are running fine on BestHostFree. And you are correct... this service is cheap compared to the competition, but quality is good.

Please note that, I initially registered with their free hosting package for a very small website. There I faced downtime. Then, I communicated with their support and upgraded. Since then I have not faced any big issue and then I went for the VPS.

[247casino]

How many times above did I say you need a dedicated server for real gambling?

What you invest in scripts and custom programming is a lot compared to hosting

So when I saw a guy with vps trying to sell it to others not me per se

I said vps is not the way to go

Then I said besides you only have 1G and a 256mb pop

You need 4G minimum

So I know what 'real casino' setups need and buy, dedicated servers

Yet he's trying to sell hosting with low memory

Now if you can upgrade memory, do it on front end

No one running a real casino with heavy scripts will want vps as I said

But since the guy is trying to put his vps stuff here, the least he could do is sell a decent memory package for a real casino

But a real casino would never look at vps as I said already

[newIndia]

How many times above did I say you need a dedicated server for real gambling? - You dont. Some VPS providers offer same features as of dedicated server. That is the case here. Read their post with feature details again.

What you invest in scripts and custom programming is a lot compared to hosting

So when I saw a guy with vps trying to sell it to others not me per se

I said vps is not the way to go

Then I said besides you only have 1G and a 256mb pop

You need 4G minimum - More than 4GB RAM is offered here. But you wont get that unless you buy any package. Please take your time to read what they are offering.

So I know what 'real casino' setups need and buy, dedicated servers

Yet he's trying to sell hosting with low memory

Now if you can upgrade memory, do it on front end

No one running a real casino with heavy scripts will want vps as I said

But since the guy is trying to put his vps stuff here, the least he could do is sell a decent memory package for a real casino

But a real casino would never look at vps as I said already

I have replied in your post. But it seems you first need to read what the support is writing before writing back your nagging assumptions here. What U hav stated in the long post above can be summarized in 2 line...

1. 4 GB RAM is minimum requirement

2. Dedicated Server is required as VPS resources can be eaten up by other users

Support has already addressed both these concerns...

1. You can buy 4 GB, 8 GB, 16 GB RAM with VPS. My personal experience is U need to have the VPS package at first to order those extra RAM.

2. They are offering Dedicated server like isolation with Full root access. So I dont see any concern for other users to eat up my resource.

Now, please re-read the thread once again before writing up another long essay with baseless assumptions.

[a1choi]

thanks for sharing info guys.  will take a look at the list of potential other hosting services