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Title: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: jaybits on October 14, 2014, 01:30:27 AM

How accurate are the numbers on this website?

https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/




Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: p2pbucks on October 14, 2014, 01:37:59 AM
bitnodes only shows the detectable bitcoin full nodes , so the number is the lower limit which means the real amount is far more bigger than that


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: PenAndPaper on October 14, 2014, 01:43:27 AM
bitnodes only shows the detectable bitcoin full nodes , so the number is the lower limit which means the real amount is far more bigger than that

What do you mean detectable? The nodes that their node is connected to? Because if a node is somehow undetectable then it's of no use for the network...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: disclosure on October 14, 2014, 01:46:34 AM
Bitnodes crawler finds only the reachable nodes in the network, i.e. nodes that accept incoming connections.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: jaybits on October 14, 2014, 01:47:23 AM
I should have made the topic Full Bitcoin Nodes.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: jaybits on October 14, 2014, 01:54:05 AM
Is there any current community driven efforts to increase the number of Full nodes?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: franky1 on October 14, 2014, 02:25:49 AM
Is there any current community driven efforts to increase the number of Full nodes?

there is one guy selling a service to add nodes to the network, but they are all IP addressed to his service (centralizing nodes), which is not what the community need or should be buying into.

id say anyone with other $1000 worth of btc should secure their stash by being a full node and not relying on third party light wallets. after all if light wallet businesses shut down their service, the software used to communicate transactions has nothing to talk to.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: shorena on October 14, 2014, 07:29:52 AM
Is there any current community driven efforts to increase the number of Full nodes?

There are step by step guides for Ubuntu Servers [1], there is this person franky1 mentioned setting up a node for you for a monthly (at least thats what I remember) payment.

I personally however had the best experience with just doing it myself. Get a cheap VPS (>=2GB Ram and >=40GB HDD) and start. If you have questions just ask in the tech support section or if its not actually related to bitcoin ask in the board/irc channel/mailing list for the tool you need help with.

[1] e.g. http://charlieshrem.com/node/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: doof on October 14, 2014, 09:11:57 AM
Is there any current community driven efforts to increase the number of Full nodes?
I have been working on a project for a while.  Its getting pretty close, I can pm you details if you're interested.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: FattyMcButterpants on October 15, 2014, 04:47:21 AM
Is there any current community driven efforts to increase the number of Full nodes?

there is one guy selling a service to add nodes to the network, but they are all IP addressed to his service (centralizing nodes), which is not what the community need or should be buying into.

id say anyone with other $1000 worth of btc should secure their stash by being a full node and not relying on third party light wallets. after all if light wallet businesses shut down their service, the software used to communicate transactions has nothing to talk to.
As long as you control the private keys to the addresses in the light wallets, someone could simply import their keys into a client that acts as a full node.

I think over the long term, most nodes will be somewhat more centralized and will be more costly to run as the blockchian gets larger and TX volume starts to pick up


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: Patel on October 15, 2014, 05:38:22 AM
Is there any current community driven efforts to increase the number of Full nodes?

there is one guy selling a service to add nodes to the network, but they are all IP addressed to his service (centralizing nodes), which is not what the community need or should be buying into.

id say anyone with other $1000 worth of btc should secure their stash by being a full node and not relying on third party light wallets. after all if light wallet businesses shut down their service, the software used to communicate transactions has nothing to talk to.
As long as you control the private keys to the addresses in the light wallets, someone could simply import their keys into a client that acts as a full node.

I think over the long term, most nodes will be somewhat more centralized and will be more costly to run as the blockchian gets larger and TX volume starts to pick up

yeah, but hopefully bandwidth can start scaling faster with Fiber internet. That is one of the biggest reaosns people don't run full nodes is because it uses alot of upload bandwidth.

I don't think people would mind running nodes if bandwidth wasn't such an issue.

Running a node on a VPS is okay, that's what I do now, but it's not organic.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: ScripterRon on October 15, 2014, 07:56:20 PM

yeah, but hopefully bandwidth can start scaling faster with Fiber internet. That is one of the biggest reaosns people don't run full nodes is because it uses alot of upload bandwidth.

I don't think people would mind running nodes if bandwidth wasn't such an issue.

Running a node on a VPS is okay, that's what I do now, but it's not organic.
I run a Debian VPS with 2 processors, 2GB RAM, 40GB SSD, 4TB data transfer.  This costs $20/month.  Bandwidth hasn't been a problem but the 40GB SSD will become a problem as the blockchain continues to increase in size.

As far as setting up the node, that is pretty simple if you understand Unix/Linux commands.  The hardest part was setting up the firewall rules for IPv4 and IPv6 :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on October 15, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
i run a full node. do your part  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Nodes
Post by: reannypleas on October 15, 2014, 10:28:15 PM
bitnodes only shows the detectable bitcoin full nodes , so the number is the lower limit which means the real amount is far more bigger than that

What do you mean detectable? The nodes that their node is connected to? Because if a node is somehow undetectable then it's of no use for the network...

Many nodes can only connect to others because they have shared IP from the internet provider. These nodes are also usefull.