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Title: How to divide by zero
Post by: awesome31312 on October 15, 2014, 06:09:07 PM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: nsimmons on October 15, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Premise 1 is false, it presupposes you can divide by zero, this operation is undefined. The division algorithm states
a=bq + r, where b|a (b divides a), The set of R/0 is not closed under division, or the multiplication inverse.

R/0 is an indeterminate form. It is undefined. A limiting process can be applied to an indeterminate form, but remember the episilon-delta proof, the limit never actually gets to zero, only "as close as we like"

The whole process shoudl be restricted to integers anyway to eliminate irrational numbers in the real set.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: awesome31312 on October 15, 2014, 06:15:26 PM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Premise 1 is false, it presupposes you can divide by zero, this operation is undefined.

R/0 is an indeterminate form. It is undefined. A limiting process can be applied to an indeterminate form, but remember the episilon-delta proof, the limit never actually gets to zero, only "as close as we like"

I meant 0/x = 0


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BoscoBlue on October 15, 2014, 06:17:41 PM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Premise 1 is false, it presupposes you can divide by zero, this operation is undefined.

R/0 is an indeterminate form. It is undefined. A limiting process can be applied to an indeterminate form, but remember the episilon-delta proof, the limit never actually gets to zero, only "as close as we like"

I meant 0/x = 0

Can nothing be divided?


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: awesome31312 on October 15, 2014, 06:18:37 PM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Premise 1 is false, it presupposes you can divide by zero, this operation is undefined.

R/0 is an indeterminate form. It is undefined. A limiting process can be applied to an indeterminate form, but remember the episilon-delta proof, the limit never actually gets to zero, only "as close as we like"

I meant 0/x = 0

Can nothing be divided?

Anything can be divided, that includes nothing.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: nsimmons on October 15, 2014, 06:20:57 PM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Premise 1 is false, it presupposes you can divide by zero, this operation is undefined.

R/0 is an indeterminate form. It is undefined. A limiting process can be applied to an indeterminate form, but remember the episilon-delta proof, the limit never actually gets to zero, only "as close as we like"

I meant 0/x = 0

Can nothing be divided?

This is a different question, yes 0 can be divided.
By the division algorithm

a = bq+r, can this equation be made true for a=0? Of course

0=bq + r
0 = 0*0 +0

or

0 = -1*1 +1

or any other combination. If the algorithm can be satisfied any combination is divisible

[source]
http://www.fmf.uni-lj.si/~lavric/Rosen%20-%20Elementary%20number%20theory%20and%20its%20applications.pdf


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Balthazar on October 15, 2014, 06:26:46 PM
Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indeterminate_form#Indeterminate_form_0.2F0


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: nsimmons on October 15, 2014, 06:56:03 PM
Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indeterminate_form#Indeterminate_form_0.2F0

good old sinx/x, used this for solid state energy band structures.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: awesome31312 on October 15, 2014, 08:01:10 PM
Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indeterminate_form#Indeterminate_form_0.2F0

Whoo

Thank you for sharing! :D


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: nsimmons on October 15, 2014, 08:34:55 PM
Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indeterminate_form#Indeterminate_form_0.2F0

Whoo

Thank you for sharing! :D

This is covered in your first calculus course. Find a text, stewart, online.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: dank on October 15, 2014, 09:53:50 PM
Thank you sir, you just made me aware of mathematical proof of god.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: (oYo) on October 15, 2014, 10:26:30 PM
Everyone knows well enough not to feed the trolls, but nooooooOOOOOooooooooo, you just HAAaad to do it. You just had to teach dank about indeterminate forms.
https://i.imgur.com/2mbe2Z8.gif
Great, now dank (and pretty soon every other godbot) thinks they've got a new god toy. MATH!  ::) ::)  ::)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: awesome31312 on October 15, 2014, 10:27:38 PM
Everyone knows well enough not to feed the trolls, but nooooooOOOOOooooooooo, you just HAAaad to do it. You just had to teach dank about indeterminate forms.
https://i.imgur.com/2mbe2Z8.gif
Great, now dank (and pretty soon every other godbot) thinks they've got a new god toy. MATH!  ::) ::)  ::)

Would you like to swap a sticker for those hipster points?


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: vm1990 on October 15, 2014, 10:48:44 PM
if you divide 0 by zero and get the correct answer the universe will implode... no one has got it yet thats why were still here


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: (oYo) on October 15, 2014, 10:58:31 PM
if you divide 0 by zero and get the correct answer the universe will implode... no one has got it yet thats why were still here
Right! That's the Big Crunch and when multipling by zero it explodes, as in The Big Bang. That's why we all agreed the answer was zero. Did I miss a memo?  ???
I always hate living in reverse time...   :-\


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: seattlenonsmoker on October 15, 2014, 11:06:25 PM
The part about this that bugs me is that multiplication and division by everything except zero is also a scalar - repeated process of addition or subtraction respectively modifying the magnitude of the function respectively - but 2-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 is still 2. DERP!

Shout outs to indeterminate and epsilon-delta def.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Josepht on October 15, 2014, 11:27:16 PM
For those who still don't understand:

Lets say 1/1 = 1. Eeasy right?
Now try to follow the next calculations:
1/0.1 = 10
1/0.01 = 100
1/0.001 = 1000
1/0.0001 = 1000
And so on.
The smaller the number you divide by, the larger the outcome is.

Example: 1/0.000000000000000000001 = 1000000000000000000000

So when you divide by a number which is a million times smaller then the previous one, your outcome will be a million times larger.
The closer you get to 'divide by zero', the larger the outcome is.  You can keep doing this for infinite time, but you'll never reach zero before all energy in this universe is used.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: awesome31312 on October 15, 2014, 11:43:25 PM
For those who still don't understand:

Lets say 1/1 = 1. Eeasy right?
Now try to follow the next calculations:
1/0.1 = 10
1/0.01 = 100
1/0.001 = 1000
1/0.0001 = 1000
And so on.
The smaller the number you divide by, the larger the outcome is.

Example: 1/0.000000000000000000001 = 1000000000000000000000

So when you divide by a number which is a million times smaller then the previous one, your outcome will be a million times larger.
The closer you get to 'divide by zero', the larger the outcome is.  You can keep doing this for infinite time, but you'll never reach zero before all energy in this universe is used.
Oh, "negative" should be thought of as "logical not" as in the following emboldened:

The part about this that bugs me is that multiplication and division by everything except zero is also a scalar - repeated process of addition or subtraction respectively modifying the magnitude of the function respectively - but 2-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 is still 2. DERP!

Shout outs to indeterminate and epsilon-delta def.
Introducing two into itself no times leaves one with nothing. Removing two from itself no times so leaves one with [that logical not of] nothing.

if you divide 0 by zero and get the correct answer the universe will implode... no one has got it yet thats why were still here
x ÷ 0 = −0

A less confusing notation would be the !


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BADecker on October 16, 2014, 12:05:54 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Premise 1 is false, it presupposes you can divide by zero, this operation is undefined. The division algorithm states
a=bq + r, where b|a (b divides a), The set of R/0 is not closed under division, or the multiplication inverse.

R/0 is an indeterminate form. It is undefined. A limiting process can be applied to an indeterminate form, but remember the episilon-delta proof, the limit never actually gets to zero, only "as close as we like"

The whole process shoudl be restricted to integers anyway to eliminate irrational numbers in the real set.

Right!  If you divide something by 0, that's the same as dividing it by nothing. If something isn't divided, the thing that is left is the original something, right? Therefore, 2/0=2.

:)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BADecker on October 16, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Premise 1 is false, it presupposes you can divide by zero, this operation is undefined. The division algorithm states
a=bq + r, where b|a (b divides a), The set of R/0 is not closed under division, or the multiplication inverse.

R/0 is an indeterminate form. It is undefined. A limiting process can be applied to an indeterminate form, but remember the episilon-delta proof, the limit never actually gets to zero, only "as close as we like"

The whole process shoudl be restricted to integers anyway to eliminate irrational numbers in the real set.

Right!  If you divide something by 0, that's the same as dividing it by nothing. If something isn't divided, the thing that is left is the original something, right? Therefore, 2/0=2.

:)

   Arithmatical division is both the taking and making of groups.

   An arithmatical quotient is that number of groups made or taken.

∴ That number of groups of nothing one can take and make from any something is absolute - indeed, that exact opposite of nothing, "−0."

Oh, play the mathematical BS. This is the exact reason stuff is so confounded.

Take 10 Arabs in the desert. Divide their number by 2 and you get 2 groups of 5, right. Since "0" is nothing, divide them by nothing and they are not divided, right? So, there are still 10 Arabs, right?

English has its characteristic laws that don't make any sense. Mathematics is a language that has characteristic laws that don't make any sense as well. It's the reason that we have flaws in our thinking.

:)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: (oYo) on October 16, 2014, 12:29:27 AM
I got an easy one for you...

If you're driving in a canoe and the wheels fall off, how many pieces of pizza can you eat?


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BADecker on October 16, 2014, 12:35:51 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Premise 1 is false, it presupposes you can divide by zero, this operation is undefined. The division algorithm states
a=bq + r, where b|a (b divides a), The set of R/0 is not closed under division, or the multiplication inverse.

R/0 is an indeterminate form. It is undefined. A limiting process can be applied to an indeterminate form, but remember the episilon-delta proof, the limit never actually gets to zero, only "as close as we like"

The whole process shoudl be restricted to integers anyway to eliminate irrational numbers in the real set.

Right!  If you divide something by 0, that's the same as dividing it by nothing. If something isn't divided, the thing that is left is the original something, right? Therefore, 2/0=2.

:)

   Arithmatical division is both the taking and making of groups.

   An arithmatical quotient is that number of groups made or taken.

∴ That number of groups of nothing one can take and make from any something is absolute - indeed, that exact opposite of nothing, "−0."

Oh, play the mathematical BS. This is the exact reason stuff is so confounded.

Take 10 Arabs in the desert. Divide their number by 2 and you get 2 groups of 5, right. Since "0" is nothing, divide them by nothing and they are not divide, right? So, there are still 10 Arabs, right?

English has its characteristic laws that don't make any sense. Mathematics is a language that has characteristic laws that don't make any sense as well. It's the reason that we have flaws in our thinking.

:)
With five Arab individuals, one may "make/take" −0 non-existent (think: null) groups of these (indeed, these would already "exist").

Look, -0 is absence of zero. So, what exactly is the amount of non-zero?

:)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BADecker on October 16, 2014, 12:45:52 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Premise 1 is false, it presupposes you can divide by zero, this operation is undefined. The division algorithm states
a=bq + r, where b|a (b divides a), The set of R/0 is not closed under division, or the multiplication inverse.

R/0 is an indeterminate form. It is undefined. A limiting process can be applied to an indeterminate form, but remember the episilon-delta proof, the limit never actually gets to zero, only "as close as we like"

The whole process shoudl be restricted to integers anyway to eliminate irrational numbers in the real set.

Right!  If you divide something by 0, that's the same as dividing it by nothing. If something isn't divided, the thing that is left is the original something, right? Therefore, 2/0=2.

:)

   Arithmatical division is both the taking and making of groups.

   An arithmatical quotient is that number of groups made or taken as a result of that division.

∴ That arithmatical quotient of arithmatical division by zero (id est, that number of groups of, quantitatively, nothing one can take/make from any something) is absolute (indeed, that exact opposite [logical not] of quantitative nothing, "−0").

Oh, play the mathematical BS. This is the exact reason stuff is so confounded.

Take 10 Arabs in the desert. Divide their number by 2 and you get 2 groups of 5, right. Since "0" is nothing, divide them by nothing and they are not divide, right? So, there are still 10 Arabs, right?

English has its characteristic laws that don't make any sense. Mathematics is a language that has characteristic laws that don't make any sense as well. It's the reason that we have flaws in our thinking.

:)
With five Arab individuals, one may "make/take" −0 non-existent (think: null) groups of them (indeed, these would already "exist").

Look, -0 is absence of zero. So, what exactly is the amount of non-zero?

:)
See my emboldened text above.

Wasn't a question. Was English. Non-zero is the set of whatever we were talking about = 10 Arabs.

:)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: seoincorporation on October 16, 2014, 12:52:49 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Lets say you have zero apples... and you want to give that apples to 3 persons... how many apples will get each person? cero.

that is why 0/3=0


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BADecker on October 16, 2014, 12:59:57 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Lets say you have cero apples... and you want to give that apples to 3 persons... how many apples will get each person? cero.

that is why 0/3=0

Now you're mixing flawed math with flawed English.

:)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: nsimmons on October 16, 2014, 02:28:17 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Lets say you have cero apples... and you want to give that apples to 3 persons... how many apples will get each person? cero.

that is why 0/3=0

Now you're mixing flawed math with flawed English.

:)

I see less equations and more faulty logic.

How about you leave the math to people who have studied it and you can go back to the fairy tales?


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BADecker on October 16, 2014, 02:59:26 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Lets say you have cero apples... and you want to give that apples to 3 persons... how many apples will get each person? cero.

that is why 0/3=0

Now you're mixing flawed math with flawed English.

:)

I see less equations and more faulty logic.

How about you leave the math to people who have studied it and you can go back to the fairy tales?
See this following:

God is all.  God is the universe.  God is oneness.  God is light.  God is love.  God is consciousness.

God is positivity.

Ego is none.  Ego is fear.  Ego is death.  Ego is doubt.  Ego is random.

Ego is negativity.

God believes in everything.  Ego believes in nothing.

Everything is everything.

Nothing is nothing.

Everything = ∞

Nothing = 0

Multiply any form of logic times zero, what do you get?
Code:
  Arithmatic negation is the arithmatic equivalent of logical negation.

  Zero ("0") is quantitative nothing.

∴ Negative (read: negated) zero ("−0") is quantitative everything.

I don't have time to prove the obvious using math. It is right there, out in the open, for anyone who wants to look at it.

:)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on November 30, 2014, 10:58:53 AM
I strongly disagree.

10/10 = 1
5/5 = 1
So, naturally 0/0 = 1

Another proof:
10^2 = 10 * 10
10^1 = 10
10^0 = 10/10 = 1

Similarly, we know that, 0^0 = 1, which is 0/0 = 1


Prove me wrong.



Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: a fool and his money ... on December 31, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
http://dividebyzero.it/divide_by_zero.jpg

zero is no real number to begin with. It doesn't occure in the real world.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: activebiz on December 31, 2014, 03:56:23 PM
dividing by 0 will always give a mathematics error. infinity. btw its has few if any applications.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: bornil267645 on December 31, 2014, 07:03:58 PM
it's like human beings have two hands, two legs and one penis.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: a fool and his money ... on December 31, 2014, 07:18:38 PM
dividing by 0 will always give a mathematics error. infinity. btw its has few if any applications.

there are no applications because it's not possible.

This is one incredible thread, i tell ya ...  :D


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: panju1 on January 01, 2015, 10:56:02 AM
Similarly, we know that, 0^0 = 1

Nope, that is not correct.
That is indeterminate as well.  :)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: miffman on January 01, 2015, 05:31:33 PM
What number times 0 will give you something?


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: spazzdla on January 02, 2015, 05:12:56 AM
Division and multiplication are different.

The more you know.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: awesome31312 on February 15, 2015, 03:39:27 PM
Guys, the solution to this can be summed by Plato's third man argument.

The solution fits in neither undefined nor zero, but the interdeterminate form


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Sakarias-Corporation on February 16, 2015, 03:16:01 PM
its fairly easy to divide by 0.

1/0 = ~

Senario. 1 bag of sand divide it by 0. throw it all around. = 1/0


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: (Lithium) on February 16, 2015, 04:00:37 PM
Ask Chuck Norris.

He is the only only that can do that


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BADecker on February 16, 2015, 08:05:01 PM
I got an easy one for you...

If you're driving in a canoe and the wheels fall off, how many pieces of pizza can you eat?

Quantum math could answer this. But the answer would be as goofy as any other non-reality.

:)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BADecker on February 16, 2015, 08:06:39 PM
its fairly easy to divide by 0.

1/0 = ~

Senario. 1 bag of sand divide it by 0. throw it all around. = 1/0


Code:
( ∀𝑥 𝑥 ∈ *ℝ )  ⇒  ( *𝑥 = ⅟₀ − 𝑥 )

A population can be divided into equally populous subpopulations ad infinitum (i.e., to an absolute infinity [i.e., an superlatively large hyperreal number (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/HyperrealNumber.html)]) when so dividing both zero times (i.e., not doing so) and into “subpopulations” of zero (i.e., unpopulated “subpopulations”).

Looking at what the Mexican cartels and ISIS are doing these days, the population can be divided into all the people except that one of them has lost his head... a fractional population.

:)


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Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BADecker on February 16, 2015, 08:26:30 PM
If a person divides something by zero, why does he suddenly focus on the zero rather than what he was attempting to divide? Is it because it was the last part of the operation, and because it didn't work, he will always be stuck there?

:)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: awesome31312 on February 16, 2015, 09:07:17 PM
Another logical conclusion would be, that zero is not a number, but a lack of one. It's a state.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: BADecker on February 16, 2015, 09:44:43 PM
In the case of the United States, even 50 is turning into zero more and more.

 :D


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: e1ghtSpace on February 17, 2015, 12:04:55 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.

The answer is undefined, or infinity.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: DLCseller on February 19, 2015, 07:43:42 AM
Use Rotaluclac to divide everything by zero,  -1 and so on.
(Its the new Calculator ::) ::) ::))


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: volatilebtc on May 14, 2015, 04:34:33 PM
The world we live in is a complex world with questions more than answers. Dividing by zero simply means that you have divided something into infinite small parts, consequently giving infinite parts.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: numismatist on May 14, 2015, 06:52:27 PM
dividing by 0 will always give a mathematics error. infinity. btw its has few if any applications.
there are no applications because it's not possible.

This is one incredible thread, i tell ya ...  :D

It is done every day. Taken for example PHP programming, if variable in divisor is undef or zero. Spills out Zero always, which is kinda strange if you compare with what you learned at school.

Theory and practice I say.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Darakath on May 14, 2015, 08:59:23 PM
Dayum, that's too complex for me  ???


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Bubbsandbubbs3 on May 16, 2015, 04:00:17 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Did you fail middle school or something?


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: cryptoboy.architect on May 16, 2015, 04:04:22 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


With that same logic - any number, when divided by itself produces 1.

x / x = 1

so when x is 0, 0 / 0 = 1. Uh-oh paradox... :)


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Bubbsandbubbs3 on May 16, 2015, 04:09:58 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


With that same logic - any number, when divided by itself produces 1.

x / x = 1

so when x is 0, 0 / 0 = 1. Uh-oh paradox... :)

He has a point


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Bubbsandbubbs3 on May 16, 2015, 04:12:27 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


Unless you think in literal terms;

Numerator = number of whatever
Denominator = number of groups that numerator goes into

0/1
Possible; you can put nothing in a group.

1/0
Impossible, you cannot put something into nothing


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Bubbsandbubbs3 on May 16, 2015, 04:19:03 AM
1/0
Impossible, you cannot put something into nothing

A proof of 𝟶 ≟ ⅟₀ is located here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824746.msg10486308#msg10486308).
I cannot process this sorcery.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Bubbsandbubbs3 on May 16, 2015, 04:24:15 AM
I cannot process this sorcery.

Quote from: Weisstein, Eric W.
A strange loop is a phenomenon in which, whenever movement is made upwards or downwards through the levels of some hierarchical system, the system unexpectedly arrives back where it started.

Look over this article (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/StrangeLoop.html) on the "strange loop."
I can barely process trigonometry. This is worse than trying to read ancient Vulcan scrolls.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Bubbsandbubbs3 on May 16, 2015, 04:28:51 AM
I can barely process trigonometry. This is worse than trying to read ancient Vulcan scrolls.

What happens is that, as one moves "upwards or downwards through the levels of" (Weisenstein) arithmetic's number line, one "arives where one started," hyperzero [1/0] - which is equivalent to zero (except, at a different location).
Correct me if I'm confused, but if you are dividing by zero, aren't you not moving at all?


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: cryptoboy.architect on May 17, 2015, 11:01:35 AM


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: cryptoboy.architect on May 17, 2015, 11:08:30 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homogeneous_coordinates

In homogeneous coordinates when Z is 0, the point is at infinity. However the point (0, 0, 0) is undefined!

Quote
Note that the triple (0, 0, 0) is omitted and does not represent any point.


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: juanthree on May 19, 2015, 05:31:23 AM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


what do you mean? why did you post something like this anyway?
i thought i am going to learn how to divide using zero but the answer is still zero


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: spazzdla on May 19, 2015, 09:32:52 PM
√1- = i

2/0 = 2PLACEMENTHOLDER

.. why not..?


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Blackmet on May 20, 2015, 11:25:24 PM
Consider these mathematical laws:

1) Any real number, when divided by zero, produces modulus and quotient zero.
Example: 0/2 = 0 (https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=0%2F2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

2) Any real number multiplied by zero is equal to zero.

Therefore, it logically follows, that zero divided by zero is equal to zero.


WTF AM I READING, guys?


Title: Re: How to divide by zero
Post by: Leeroy Jenkins on May 21, 2015, 10:28:15 PM
OP has never heard of Calpanic Numbers: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1101.2798v1.pdf