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Hello guys,

I am developing an android wallet, that will give the bitcoin users access to bitcoin 2.0 technologies.
For example, you will be able to trade on decentralized asset exchange and sell goods on the digital goods market again, everything decentralized.
You would also be able to send encrypted messages.

The extra functionality is delivered by a bitcoin 2.0 technology, so you would have to buy relevant coins within the app.

What do you guys think of that, would it work for you?

regards.

I think Mastercoin is way ahead of you.  But thanks for trying.  Go help those guys finish their good work on Bitcoin 2.0.  It should be coming fairly soon.

If you like the technology, maybe buy a few shares while they are insanely cheap.  In three years, this stuff is going to be worth millions. https://masterxchange.com/market.php?currency=msc  (https://masterxchange.com/market.php?currency=msc)

This is not about mastercoin or any other coin. This is about mobile app where bitcoiners can conveniently use the bitcoin 2.0 technology. The underlying technology is not that important but if you ask - it is Nxt. In any case, you shall not be interested of it, the main thing is trading on the asset exchange and sell/buy on the goods market. As far as I am aware there is no mobile app giving this features?

I don't think “Bitcoin 2.0” means what you think it means.

extra features and technology on the blockchain?

Yeah, that's NOT Bitcoin 2.0. That's just technology built on top of Bitcoin, but not Bitcoin itself.

Bitcoin is currently at version 0.9.3 (Bitcoin Core, the reference client).

seems more people mis-understanding bitcoin and the future of bitcoin.

the altcoins and other tech which have (purely for advertising hype purposes) adopted the term bitcoin 2.0 have nothing at all to do with bitcoin. some of them are not even bitcoin technologies but purely SQL databases stored on a single web server. Some are as mentioned, altcoins with a totally different blockchain that has no transaction linkage or history of the true bitcoin.

as for a web app, requiring trust of the owner of the server to continue running the service for 130 years...... ummmm i dont think that too has anything to do with bitcoin technology

bitcoin is suppose to be............. wait for it............ BITCOIN, meaning decentralised and peer to peer. so unless your peer-to-peer without a single sql database used, where by all transactions are viewable on the true bitcoin blockchain... then the idea has nothing to do with bitcoin

afterall you dont call visa or mastercard:
doller 2.0
fiat 2.0

its simply a service on the side of fiat that HELPS at most, but is not itself fiat

A "bitcoin 2.0" decentralized asset exchange only makes sense if you somehow put the assets on the blockchain.  I think.

Exactly.  Funny when the OP doesn't understand the topic.  We need smarter people in bitcoin or it will never get developed.

Hello,

I am pretty sure you would not like this but the crypto community consider "bitcoin 2.0"  to be technology that is a descendant of bitcoin , something that will replace it or co-live with it. It does not relate literally to bitcoin blockchain it is usually in a different blockchain. And yes I am pretty aware of the current version of Bitcoin and that it has nothing to do with bitcoin 2.0 term ( it is a term not related to versioning )

regards.

I think R2D221 was right the first time - and even more right now.  Go read about how Mastercoin from JR Willett works INSIDE the bitcoin blockchain to bring new functionality.  

Basically, you don't know what you are talking about.  NXT is low grade garbage that doesn't cooperate with bitcoin in any way.  NXT is not bitcoin 2.0; it is Junk 1.1

I like you, you have spunk.  You walk into a community, use the wrong terminology and then tell the community that THEY are wrong.

Takes balls.

I am not sure where you going with this so I will comment inline:

seems more people mis-understanding bitcoin and the future of bitcoin.  ==> I am not discussion bitcoin and the future of bitcoin , I am proposing an easy way(mobile app) of trading on asset exchange and digital goods market that are fully decentralized and everything happens on the blockchain. It is not the bitcoin blockchain it is the NXT blockchain yet, all the crypto principals apply. Bitcoin is fully financial for now and I am proposing extra features that happens outside of bitcoin but can be easily accessed by bitcoiners.

the altcoins and other tech which have (purely for advertising hype purposes) adopted the term bitcoin 2.0 have nothing at all to do with bitcoin. some of them are not even bitcoin technologies but purely SQL databases stored on a single web server. Some are as mentioned, altcoins with a totally different blockchain that has no transaction linkage or history of the true bitcoin.   ===> some altcoins do that, yet I am talking about a platform where everything happens on the blockchain, I am developing on this platform and I can confirm it is peer to peer crypto currency, open source , everyone can check it out. The functionality is important here. Please, do not be ignorant.

as for a web app, requiring trust of the owner of the server to continue running the service for 130 years......  ===>  not a web app but a mobile app and I am not re-inventing the weel, It is just an interface for the underlying technology called NxT and it will accept bitcoin as far as you can buy nxt in order to pay the nxt network the fees, you would also get back to bitcoins at any time.

BITCOIN, meaning decentralised and peer to peer. so unless your peer-to-peer without a single sql database used, where by all transactions are viewable on the true bitcoin blockchain... then the idea has nothing to do with bitcoin - you got that right, I am talking about peer to peer technology with already working asset exchange and digital goods market  working entirely into the blockchain, it is not the bitcoin blockchain but I will give bitcoin's pretty nice android app to work with.

Thanks.

Too true. 

Keep the terminology aside please, we can argue on that for years - please focus on the main thing:

extra features on alternative blockchain easily accessible to bitcoiners.

No.  We are communicating through text.  Terminology is all we have to ensure clear communication.  We cannot infer what you mean if you use the wrong words.

It's like saying "I want to give this motorcycle 4WD" when you mean "I want to give this motorcycle off-road abilities".  One is confusing, one makes sense.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're on an alternative blockchain, you are separate from bitcoin and bitcoiners (seriously, I'm new to some of this, is this true?).

I am sorry if my words are confusing, I just wanted to get a feedback on the functionality proposed and it is all of the benefit of anyone using bitcoins.
Yes, you are right , I am on alternative blockchain, therefore separated from bitcoin and I would like to create a "bridge"  so bitcoiner can benefit of it.

Speaking of alternative blockchain, Ethereum will have it's own blockchain, separate from Bitcoin ,yet it is considered a Bitcoin 2.0 technology...what I am trying to say is that this is really new and people do have different point of views...

I believe when abstream refers to bitcoin 2.0, he means decentralized exchange. I have tried Counterparty, Mastercoin, Viacoin, and NXT. I would recommend everybody to actually use each of these. I have found that the NXT Asset Exchange is by far superior.

Well, as far as I know, these alternative blockchain technologies are not that useful to the Bitcoin community (I just want to spend my bitcoins, you know).


Still, no. Ethereum is Ethereum. It's not Bitcoin 2.0 in any sense.

I think he means 4WD when he says bitcoin 2.0.  He doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about so why bother trying to parse that shit.

On the NXT AE you can currently trade BTC, LTC, BTCD, DOGE, VIA, BC, with others in the pipeline.

http://multigateway.org/

I myself have had enough dealing with the risk of centralized exchanges.

The OP is referencing an altcoin, something very similar to colored coins, or colored coins themselves. In reality, they have very little to no extra value above what bitcoin can provide, as there is a very small subset of "things" that can be traded via colored coins.

I've been in the crypto space for some quite some time and I honestly must say I have seen many many coins come and go. Some are very innovative and even have fair distribution, but they still do not catch on due to many factors. It's really the active developers creating the truly innovative stuff that stands out at the end.

Bitcoin will always be the gold in my eyes and i'm sure everyone else as its what everyone knows about. Given a few more years we'll see that there will be a few main coins competing for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place marketcap coins. I believe NXT will be in one of these competing coins.

It's pretty mind boggling what nxt has built so far while it gets all the trolling it does. I too was trolling on nxt in the beginning as I thought it was just all talk about what they wanted to do and the fact that only 75 people initially started it out. But overtime I just don't care about the distribution anymore, because if NXT keeps at this pace and keeps on building out this feature set, people will just come for the features and not the coin itself. A very good analogy that someone mentioned is, poker. There are gamblers out there that want to play poker, they dont care what currency it is, because at the end of the day they will just cash it back out to USD or BTC.

I don't care about the NXT coin itself, I'm just with NXT on the features they have developed so far.

It's quite crazy that NXT has the first production ready decentralized marketplace while open bazaar is just still in testing.

 NXT is ahead of you i think,!

Great Point . Enjoyed .......................

I agree that you can recognize that other coins have innovative features, but people also need to understand that they are not Bitcoin. They may be better than Bitcoin, but (or actually, thanks to that very reason) they are not Bitcoin.

post relevant. 
im 419.
how many accounts can i buy and how many shills can i create to push agendas and make money?
thank you for your time.

I know what you mean and you have your own reasons for that but please understand that there are people outside the bitcoin community and they have different understanding of bitcoin 2.0.

First, you need to buy some NXT with BTC ( that would be available within the app )
Then, you need to issue an asset on the Asset Exchange market - basically you are saying how many shares you want to issue, what is the price of each asset and what
are you giving to shareholders - ownership,dividends.

If you have a good IPO, many guys will be interested - you can fund and grow your project.
That's what many guys are already doing on NXT AE, that's what I am doing.

Yes, we know. You just want 10'000$ price to cash out. And alts is the main obstacle on a way to this ultimate goal.

wow, everyone shit on op so hard when he just came to help.

you think he came to help?  who?  its another nxt shill

op has no clue on the basics they're talking about and you think that he will develop a decentralized market and exchange

(cough cough.. open bazaar)

One guy got that right - I came to help.

I do not need to deliver the decentralized exchange  - it is already delivered, thousands are using it, you could of ask for that and I would of inform you.
It's a live market with capitalization of 15-20 million dollars already, so please cut the ignorance. I will just develop a mobile up that accepts bitcoins and give the bitcoiners
interface to use what is already there.

With regards to the technology  term - open your mind, this is not necessarily  a bitcoin term, it's a Cryptocurrency term and it does not necessarily  include bitcoin at all.
I already mentioned Ethereum as a bitcoin 2.0 technology - there are some quite serious people behind that are you going to tell them that they do not know what they are talking about?!? Bitcoin 2.0 is a better cryptocurrency ecosystem , it may or might not use the bitcoin blockchain, this is now a wider term not connected to your internal bitcoin versioning. I do not mind taking notes from smart guys , when they are right I just think that you all have to step up out of your comfort zone and  look for new possibilities.

regards.

its already there for quite some time now. maybe you should take a look around every now and then.

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This whole thread is fascinating... I never knew it was like this.


Forget CP/MSC, Nxt has 75% of the top 20 crypto assets trading > https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

Forget Open Bazaar in the future, Nxt Freemarket is here and trading in beta (Digital Good Store for electronic assets like digital books, music etc. is already on the Nxt Mainnet and trading)  


Anyone for Multigateway, decentralised inter crypto trading? (also a product being used and not 'in three years' time)

Then you have pan crypto projects like SuperNet and Automated Transactions breaking down the barriers between blockchains and enabling simple inter chain transactions.



Even though it might be inferior, only bitcoin can succeed because everything else that is superior isn't bitcoin so they have to fail? I think he is serious....  :o

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

This thread is FANTASTIC!  :D

Well, as far as I know, Bitcoin technology is not that usefull to the human community (I just want to spend my dollars, you know).

Seriously, I don't see your point.