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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Scottbit on October 20, 2014, 08:07:09 AM



Title: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Scottbit on October 20, 2014, 08:07:09 AM

ARDEVA IS STEALING YOUR IDENTITIES

I just wanted to warn investors and project owners to stay a way from Coinsortium.co and it's "verification" service Ardeva.com.

As you may know, Ardeva.com is used to verify project owners so that investors know who are they dealing with. Main focus of Ardeva is allegedly getting rid of scams by verifying owners ID, address, credit cards etc. More you give to them, bigger "trust score" you get.

To get 20% of 100% Ardeva score (needed to list project of Coinsortium) you need to send them your ID, front and back scans, profile photo, ID + utility bill and you holding the ID by your face and two different utility bills not older than 3 months.

However, Ardeva is biggest scam of them all. They want you to send them all that just be able to post project.

Project owners that got verified by Ardeva don't see the bigger picture. YOU ARE SENDING YOUR WHOLE IDENTITY INFORMATION TO XYZ WEBSITE!

Ardeva ISN'T registered company, and there is no legal entity behind it! Only some guy with stolen identity

Identity thefts are much more profitable than silly Bitcoin projects that owners are listing on their platform.

Please be aware and list your projects on decentralized platforms!
 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=828832.new#new


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: printshop on October 20, 2014, 06:02:13 PM
ARDEVA IS STEALING YOUR IDENTITIES

So Ardeva is stealing our identities, because...

Identity thefts are much more profitable than silly Bitcoin projects that owners are listing on their platform.

Ardeva might be stealing our identities?

wtf?


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Germican on October 20, 2014, 06:36:26 PM
I don't argue with your line of thinking but your making a possibility into an actuality. Rather than making claims with no evidence how about just putting out a word of caution of something you open yourself up to by providing the verification. Whether they are an actually business or not doesn't change whether they will steal your identity or not as many businesses have done so previously.

Provide evidence or I'd recommend editing the post to remove concrete claims otherwise your just hurting yourself and your credibility.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: frederichoule on October 22, 2014, 11:35:37 AM
Hi Scottbit, Fred here from Ardeva.

Ardeva is a registered Canadian company located in Laval, Quebec, Canada.

Once we approve documents you send us, they are encrypted directly by our system with a public key, while the private key is stored on a few USB drives at safe locations. Once a week, we move all encrypted files from the server to external offline storage as an extra layer of security. We basically parse the required informations from your documents, save them in our database, and then encrypt the files. We don't use your ID/documents for anything except for legal purposes (i.e. you run away with somebody's BTC).

I hope that answered your concerns, and I invite you to contact us at hello@ardeva.com if you have any questions about our service.

Regards,
Frederic Houle
Ardeva Founder


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on October 22, 2014, 10:44:13 PM
Hi Scottbit, Fred here from Ardeva.

Ardeva is a registered Canadian company located in Laval, Quebec, Canada.

Once we approve documents you send us, they are encrypted directly by our system with a public key, while the private key is stored on a few USB drives at safe locations. Once a week, we move all encrypted files from the server to external offline storage as an extra layer of security. We basically parse the required informations from your documents, save them in our database, and then encrypt the files. We don't use your ID/documents for anything except for legal purposes (i.e. you run away with somebody's BTC).

I hope that answered your concerns, and I invite you to contact us at hello@ardeva.com if you have any questions about our service.

Regards,
Frederic Houle
Ardeva Founder

Hey Fred from Ardeva
 If I can call you Fred that is you might not want to be so friendly with me after this. You claim to vet IPO's and the owners correct? How come your vetting does not reflect the owner of QuintoBTC being a convicted felon? I think that is very important info when investing in a company. What are you doing exactly to vet these people just prove they are who the say they are?

Edit. Your a construction company correct?

Edit. Just started looking your stuff back over again... You list your IPO on the site you vet for and give yourself 100% rating. RED ALERT RED ALERT. That is what we call unethical in the business world.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: printshop on October 23, 2014, 11:47:32 AM
Hey Fred from Ardeva
 If I can call you Fred that is you might not want to be so friendly with me after this. You claim to vet IPO's and the owners correct? How come your vetting does not reflect the owner of QuintoBTC being a convicted felon? I think that is very important info when investing in a company. What are you doing exactly to vet these people just prove they are who the say they are?

Edit. Your a construction company correct?

Edit. Just started looking your stuff back over again... You list your IPO on the site you vet for and give yourself 100% rating. RED ALERT RED ALERT. That is what we call unethical in the business world.

How do you know that he's a convicted felon? Because they have verified his identity. They have done their job, you have done yours.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: frederichoule on October 23, 2014, 02:05:34 PM
Hey Fred from Ardeva
 If I can call you Fred that is you might not want to be so friendly with me after this. You claim to vet IPO's and the owners correct? How come your vetting does not reflect the owner of QuintoBTC being a convicted felon? I think that is very important info when investing in a company. What are you doing exactly to vet these people just prove they are who the say they are?

Edit. Your a construction company correct?

Edit. Just started looking your stuff back over again... You list your IPO on the site you vet for and give yourself 100% rating. RED ALERT RED ALERT. That is what we call unethical in the business world.

Hey RiverBoatBTC!

#1 - The only thing we claim is that we verified the informations we asked for in our verification modules. We do not have a "Criminal Case" verification module yet, but this is definitively something we want to add in the future. Take a look at his Ardeva profile, check the name of the verification module and the status next to it. We do not claim anything more than the fact that we verified that information.

#2 - A construction company? I'm not sure what you mean about that.

#3 - I test each and every module we put up on Ardeva. I do not approve my own documents, my partner does it, and I did the same for his documents. We had no choice to had a Gov ID + Address verified Ardeva account to list on Coinsortium - we can't circumvent that, it's required for others so it's required for us too.

Feel free to ask if you have any more questions!

Regards,
Fred


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Zoznoz on October 24, 2014, 01:11:43 AM
I believe the OP only said most of that and wrote the misleading title, ">> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft" just to get the response that he did. Everyone should be aware of identity theft sure, it can happen anywhere but I also work in a position where I have to obtain photocopies of customers' Government ID sometimes and other sensitive material to verify their identity. There is really no difference between saying that I am an identity thief just for requesting these documents, by your logic.

Identity thefts are much more profitable than silly Bitcoin projects that owners are listing on their platform.

Yes, identity theft is a lucrative and evil trade but individually, photocopies of an ID and a utility bill isn't going to get you anywhere near the amount that a project/asset owner would raise. You're probably thinking of identity theft involving physical cards/documents or skimming credit cards.

Ardeva ISN'T registered company, and there is no legal entity behind it! Only some guy with stolen identity

Apparently it is, as frederichoule pointed out the website by his claim is under a registered Canadian company, I agree I can't find any evidence of that on the website itself. However, with a WHOIS search you can find that the organisation listed under ardeva.com is the 'TRIAXO GROUP'. Besides that it appears WHOIS Privacy isn't even on so it appears that Ardeva is likely being very transparent themselves. One thing I will mention though is  when I try to search for the "Triaxo group" on www.ic.gc.ca, nothing appears. Besides that if Ardeva isn't actually operated under a company, then that means that it would have be a proprietorship/sole trader business which means there is substantially more risk for the founder anyway. If anything, not operating under a company means there is more risk and scrutiny for the founder.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: frederichoule on October 25, 2014, 10:10:57 PM
Zoznoz, ic.gc.ca only lists companies incorporated under the Canadian chart (Federal), not the Quebec chart (provincial) - you would have to query the "Registraire des Entreprises du Québec" and get the informations about Triaxo Group.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Zoznoz on October 26, 2014, 01:06:10 AM
Zoznoz, ic.gc.ca only lists companies incorporated under the Canadian chart (Federal), not the Quebec chart (provincial) - you would have to query the "Registraire des Entreprises du Québec" and get the informations about Triaxo Group.

Thanks for that, you're right it was on the Quebec Enterprise Registrar!  :) I didn't realise because I know places like USA, UK and Australia usually handle corporate law on a Federal level.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: frederichoule on October 26, 2014, 01:21:12 AM
Canada does it too - we can choose either the Federal incorporation, or Provincial one. Ardeva is currently under a Quebec provincial incorporation, but we are looking at other jurisdiction for incorporation in the near future, mainly Delaware LLC.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Scottbit on October 28, 2014, 09:17:06 AM
Just one of the confirmations that you need to stay away from both of these platforms!

This is how all scams begin to unfold...

https://i.imgur.com/OeNwLps.png


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: AcoinL.L.C on October 28, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/sec-sends-inquiry-letters-hundreds-bitcoin-companies-unregistered-securities/



Title: Re: COINSORTIUM
Post by: NotLambchop on October 28, 2014, 05:36:02 PM
Very annoying news for US based exchanges!
However the SEC has no jurisdiction over Coinsortium.co since we are based in the UK and EU.

With this I do not mean that any US person can create listings on Coinsortium.co freely and legally or that we condone illegal activity. One should always check with a local lawyer if he/she is eligible to list securities on a foreign exchange.

We are discussing a potential ban on listings from US companies but so far nothing has been implemented.


Don't forget bans on US users :)


Title: Re: COINSORTIUM
Post by: AcoinL.L.C on October 29, 2014, 03:21:20 AM
Very annoying news for US based exchanges!
However the SEC has no jurisdiction over Coinsortium.co since we are based in the UK and EU.

With this I do not mean that any US person can create listings on Coinsortium.co freely and legally or that we condone illegal activity. One should always check with a local lawyer if he/she is eligible to list securities on a foreign exchange.

We are discussing a potential ban on listings from US companies but so far nothing has been implemented.


SEC has jurisdiction anywhere that accepts US investors. I would guess that ~50% of your listed assets are US based anyways... As for investors? 50-75%.



Title: Re: COINSORTIUM
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on October 30, 2014, 05:38:18 PM
SEC has jurisdiction anywhere that accepts US investors. I would guess that ~50% of your listed assets are US based anyways... As for investors? 50-75%.

SEC has jurisdiction within the United States alone, if they write to us we will dump the letter.
Instead if our local securities agency writes to us we will comply with the requests.

My friend... do not spread FUD when you do not know the reality of things. We do not want to go to jail so we hired a business attorney before going live. :)

This is not true, U.S has jurisdiction on any U.S citizen. It does not matter where you break the law. Perfect Example black water employee's killed people in Iraq got held and tried in the U.S.A.

But honestly the owner of this exchange is not someone you would want to do business with. I have had previous encounters with him, and the Mods have called him a straight liar. If anyone would like the links I would be happy to provide.


Title: Re: COINSORTIUM
Post by: twentyseventy on October 30, 2014, 06:55:45 PM
This is not true, U.S has jurisdiction on any U.S citizen. It does not matter where you break the law. Perfect Example black water employee's killed people in Iraq got held and tried in the U.S.A.

But honestly the owner of this exchange is not someone you would want to do business with. I have had previous encounters with him, and the Mods have called him a straight liar. If anyone would like the links I would be happy to provide.

You should probably be releasing BitcoinBudz' ID and Docs before taking on anything new-


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on October 30, 2014, 06:58:30 PM
I already did if you have been following, I know the main investor who bought the majority of shares and I provided him with everything I had. I could release public but I was asked not to do so as of yet.


Title: Re: COINSORTIUM
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on October 31, 2014, 01:51:44 AM
This is not true, U.S has jurisdiction on any U.S citizen. It does not matter where you break the law. Perfect Example black water employee's killed people in Iraq got held and tried in the U.S.A.

??? At Coinsortium we are not US citizens. Of course the SEC may question US company owners directly using the Ardeva token.

About US investors... the SEC would have to ask for a list from Coinsortium but I am pretty sure that the management will deny the request. End of story.

Very true but what we have learned from the SR case so far is, if the servers or business is not in the U.S.A they can hack it and do not need a warrant.
Cite: http://www.wired.com/2014/10/silk-road-judge-technicality/


Title: Re: COINSORTIUM
Post by: Killerloop on October 31, 2014, 08:01:54 AM
Very true but what we have learned from the SR case so far is, if the servers or business is not in the U.S.A they can hack it and do not need a warrant.
Cite: http://www.wired.com/2014/10/silk-road-judge-technicality/

Please do not associate the name of legit business like Coinsortium with criminals dealing drugs. Our servers are our own, we have a regular contract and we do not use TOR or anything.

I am not exactly sure about what are you trying to prove with these weird examples and citations. Before creating our company we paid a business lawyer to check compliance with our laws and that is all that it is required.

Stil don't believe me? Well, it is within your rights! I won't discuss this matter further as it is useless on these terms. We have plenty of US investors and our law doesn't allow disclosure of personal information to a random foreign organization, be it governmental or not.




Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on October 31, 2014, 09:07:10 PM
Dude your not even the owner your some PR employee Shill

I think you fail to see the point of the Cite, the US gov does not care if you operating legally in YOUR country. If you have U.S. citizens involved in any sort of way they will do as the please. If you think any different you are daft.

Not only that I can not prove it but I am about 75% sure the owner got all his funds to start that exchange by ripping people off with HYIP's


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 01, 2014, 04:29:20 AM
Bet you moderators do.... wait .... wait... nothing cause they have already called jayc89 told him he is a liar, if he lies about simple things why would he not lie about serious business things.

How about you or him address the issues instead of crying to the mods like jayc89 when he got called out for being a liar.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=517340.msg5721016#msg5721016

I´ll leave that for someone else.

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94.75.199.221 is from Netherlands(NL) in region Western Europe

TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 94.75.199.221 [hosted-by.leaseweb.com]
15      116      116      116         94.75.199.221     hosted-by.leaseweb.com  
Trace complete

RiverBoatBTC's Illegal site

And remember, ponzis accept only cryptocoin, YOU accept also REAL MONEY. ;)


Report it to the registrar - abuse@ahnames.com
And the hosting company - http://www.leaseweb.com/en/about-us/contact

lose btc today lose it tomorrow why does it matter your going to lose it ponzi boy

You think I just play ponzis all day or something lol? Only reason I'm talking so much about them is because of stupid threads like this.

You are not doing the community any favour by making them lose their btc, idiot.

It's actually really sad what you're doing. Almost all of you anti-ponzi guys talk like little kids, its hilarious.   ;D



No use arguing with them - dont feed the trolls. Just report his site  ;D

Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer.

Don't go near his site. He's looking for a loan of 4-8btc for his bank roll. Any casino that is looking for that little is run by a scammer or someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Quote from the website

"Q: What are the minimum and maximum bets in your games?    (Back to top)

A: The minimum bet in all of our games is $0.01. There is no maximum limit on the bets. "



Yet he is looking for a 4-5BTC loan LOL the site would be screwed if they had a big winner. O no, wait, they just wouldnt pay out hahaha. SCAM.

Then you went in his thread and posted these replies.

A gambling site with no max deposit yet the OP needs a 4-5BTC loan to keep it running?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=510879.msg5640097#msg5640097

I would avoid this site like the plague!

Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer.

Don't go near his site. He's looking for a loan of 4-8btc for his bank roll. Any casino that is looking for that little is run by a scammer or someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Quote from the website

"Q: What are the minimum and maximum bets in your games?    (Back to top)

A: The minimum bet in all of our games is $0.01. There is no maximum limit on the bets. "



Yet he is looking for a 4-5BTC loan LOL the site would be screwed if they had a big winner. O no, wait, they just wouldnt pay out hahaha. SCAM.

Sure sure guy, keep with the sheeple

I'm just going with the facts in front of us ;)

Did some cut and pasting to place our discussion in the right thread.

"Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer."

I got it from a investment so it is there now, but thanks for reading :) if I scam you on my site you can

scream it from the roof tops

Got any proof that you actually have it?
No have lol

This dude is a dodgy as all the ponzi operators he is trying to close down. It's time to turn the tables!

After this is when he started posting in your thread. Looks more like YOU started griefing him and calling him a scammer because of a "difference of opinion", now he's just returning the favor. Nothing worse than liars, stop trying to waste our time with bullshit you started.  


Now is this the petty type person you want to be doing business with or trusting your assets to or coins with? I think not that ARDEVA is just a scam, its just a ploy to make people FEEL SAFE, they are not doing anything to safe guard investments and the "Check" they do can be forged with DNM docs real simple. They have 0 access to actual background checking or document confirmation software so it would seem.


Title: Re: COINSORTIUM
Post by: AcoinL.L.C on November 01, 2014, 05:29:01 AM
SEC has jurisdiction anywhere that accepts US investors. I would guess that ~50% of your listed assets are US based anyways... As for investors? 50-75%.

SEC has jurisdiction within the United States alone, if they write to us we will dump the letter.
Instead if our local securities agency writes to us we will comply with the requests.

My friend... do not spread FUD when you do not know the reality of things. We do not want to go to jail so we hired a business attorney before going live. :)

The reality of the situation is this: Your accepting deposits from non-accredited US investors and allowing them to trade through your site. You are allowing US companies to raise capital without them being licensed to do so. That is YOUR responsibility, just as much as it is the asset owners. Throw out / ignore SEC letters, your going to end up in a US prison. Your blatantly breaking the law. Not to mention a "business attorney", what are you referring to exactly? You need to talk with a securities lawyer. And they will tell you the same thing I am telling you.



Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: AcoinL.L.C on November 02, 2014, 04:19:18 AM
Reported to moderation, if anyone has serious questions about our business please visit Coinsortium.co and head for the support section.

For what exactly? Your knowingly breaking the law.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: abstream on November 09, 2014, 06:55:13 PM
Hey Fred from Ardeva
 If I can call you Fred that is you might not want to be so friendly with me after this. You claim to vet IPO's and the owners correct? How come your vetting does not reflect the owner of QuintoBTC being a convicted felon? I think that is very important info when investing in a company. What are you doing exactly to vet these people just prove they are who the say they are?

Edit. Your a construction company correct?

Edit. Just started looking your stuff back over again... You list your IPO on the site you vet for and give yourself 100% rating. RED ALERT RED ALERT. That is what we call unethical in the business world.

Hey RiverBoatBTC!

#1 - The only thing we claim is that we verified the informations we asked for in our verification modules. We do not have a "Criminal Case" verification module yet, but this is definitively something we want to add in the future. Take a look at his Ardeva profile, check the name of the verification module and the status next to it. We do not claim anything more than the fact that we verified that information.

#2 - A construction company? I'm not sure what you mean about that.

#3 - I test each and every module we put up on Ardeva. I do not approve my own documents, my partner does it, and I did the same for his documents. We had no choice to had a Gov ID + Address verified Ardeva account to list on Coinsortium - we can't circumvent that, it's required for others so it's required for us too.

Feel free to ask if you have any more questions!

Regards,
Fred

As a business who intends to use NXT AE in order to deliver added value services for investors and business owners I do have few concerns with ardeva:

1)How do you verify national id cards? do you actually do some checks with national government agencies?
2)Can you give us more info on your verification module and how you execute them - I find myself confused doing due diligence on YOU! :)
3)What happens if one of my clients that I have pointed to ardeva gets all the money and run away - what guarantee do I have that you will reveal his/her identity? Are you ready to sign a contract with my company with regards to this?
4)If your business is serious ( our judgement really depends on how you answer 1-3) then how come that it is all free?! sorry but it does not sound realistic. If it becomes a paid service - please tell us what would be the pricing model - how do we plan our own budget?!
5)Don't you think that you shall answer all those questions on your website?
6)I think that a company like this shall have at least a phone number - just an email is not serious.


TO ALL: what alternative do we have to aredeva - what would be a reputable identity verification platform that is affordable for the small business?


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: rileyA. on November 10, 2014, 09:58:34 AM
Riley Alexander here from Ardeva. Thanks for the questions and I hope this answers them.

Our document verification procedures are more in depth then easily being able to photoshop an ID. We request 3 photos be uploaded.
1. The user must upload the front of ID
2. The user must upload the Back of ID
3. The user must upload a picture of them holding up the ID next to their face ALONG with a 4 digit UNIQUE number that is generated just for their particular verification.
We check the ID for verifiable security features that can be seen. Documents are then encrypted and sent to offline storage.

As far as your 6 questions, here is my answers:
1. Was explained above.
2. Was explained above.
3. Ardeva is still in young state. We have new updates almost daily. Our terms do allow for release of documents in the following conditions:

​​"DISCLOSURE OF ACCOUNT INFORMATION. COMPANY will not disclose any information to third parties about you, including email addresses, or your Account, except in the situations described below. We will disclose such information:

    to verify the condition and existence of your Account for a third party, such as a credit bureau or merchant;
    to persons authorized by law in the course of their official duties;
    to a consumer reporting agency as defined by Applicable Law;
    to comply with a government agency or court order, such as a lawful subpoena;
    to COMPANY employees, auditors, service providers, attorneys or collection agents in the course of their duties; or
    if you give COMPANY written permission (including by email); or
    to any party with a valid legally binding arbitration letter."

4. As stated above, we are making updates daily. Our service is currently and will ALWAYS be free for users to enter information. We offer API integrations with companies such as coinsortium.co to leverage information from our database and those are paid integrations. We also are on the verge of offering PAID business verifications. That is how we plan to receive income. For now we are trying to grow our userbase and gain acceptance in the community.
5. ​​We are currently doing a complete site re-design to make it easier for the answers to these questions to be found. We apologize for the temporary confusion.
6. ​We actually set up a VOIP number the other day and once we have voicemail and forwarding set up, we will be posting the number on the website. We are a small team of 2 who have other commitments so currently do not have regular hours where the phone would be staffed..

I will post this same message on BCTalk as well for transparency.

I appreciate all your questions and feel free to let me know if you have any others. As stated, we are currently in a growing phase and expect to see many changes with ardeva over the next few weeks. ​​​​


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 10, 2014, 10:40:52 PM
Its simple why its all free, they are not doing nothing but collecting documents.

I will put 1BTC that someone could get through "verification" with 100% faked docs.


Facts:
1) You do no background checks
2) You have no way to run ID's
3) You are collecting people's Information but they have no Idea who you are.
4) You have verified known felons and gave them a stamp of approval.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 02:49:07 PM
I will put 1BTC that someone could get through "verification" with 100% faked docs.

Is this another of your known FUDs? Otherwise I'll fetch a known forum escrow to hold your coins while anyone attempts to get past with 100% faked docs.

Post reported to moderation, of course


I told you this service was no good, my friend  registered with a FAKE ID and they accepted it.....


http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 02:53:03 PM
I told you this service was no good, my friend  registered with a FAKE ID and they accepted it.....

You can certainly provide us with a token to verify what you just said, right? :)

I will ask him but I think he is going to prove a point and pull as scam first lol.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 03:00:55 PM
I will tell you exactly how he did it so any other person who wants to take advantage of you flawed system can do it as well.

He went to EVO, bought someones full information. Had a fake ID made with all that information, dob, address, ect.

total cost $30

Should have put the 1BTC in escrow lol.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 03:05:23 PM
I will tell you exactly how he did it so any other person who wants to take advantage of you flawed system can do it as well.

He went to EVO, bought someones full information. Had a fake ID made with all that information, dob, address, ect.

total cost $30

Should have put the 1BTC in escrow lol.

Provide a verified token from the site or GTFO  :)
Do you have an idea about how many times I heard this b*****t? Here is a hint: it is in the hundreds.


Just wait, I am going to make you look like a total fucking ass lol


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 03:13:41 PM
Just wait, I am going to make you look like a total fucking ass lol

The only one who should be ashamed is the moderator who allows random trolls like you to disturb serious people

You should be ashamed for verifying a felon on consortium.... and then giving yourself a 100% verification rating  ::)


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 03:18:14 PM
You should be ashamed for verifying a felon on consortium.... and then giving yourself a 100% verification rating  ::)

Sure sure... err, your verified token please? I will verify it so do not try to post a rendom sequence of letters and numbers.

I would never verify myself on your site lol, I told you I know someone who was verified by your system with a fake ID. I told them to take it as far as they possibly could to prove a point.

The results will be posted when done.

But still you verified Qbond Mr Steve Swanson is a felon.....


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
I would never verify myself on your site lol, I told you I know someone who was verified by your system with a fake ID. I told them to take it as far as they possibly could to prove a point.

I know a friend who has a friend who knows a dude who has ..... etc etc etc.
Also you are the true criminal here since you are soliciting your friend to commit illegal activity.... you can't do any damage to Coinsortium, only to the community.

Shame on you.  :(



No I am showing you have a exploit you fail to see or change.... Its like telling a bank you have a whole in your wall and you need to patch it.
The bank says, its the criminals fault if they go through the hole....

If you would fix what I have told you to fix since the time you have started it would not have come to this, but the fact that you are offering people a sense of false security is

Irresponsible and makes you Liable


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Killerloop on November 30, 2014, 03:40:45 PM
No I am showing you have a exploit you fail to see or change.... Its like telling a bank you have a whole in your wall and you need to patch it.

Sure, point the hole and we will fix it. So far you only said "you have a hole... somewhere" with no actual proof or anything. We are used to people like you trying to attack to extort some kind of benefit... everyone got rebuffed  :)


Get real, man up and show proof.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 03:55:55 PM
No I am showing you have a exploit you fail to see or change.... Its like telling a bank you have a whole in your wall and you need to patch it.

Sure, point the hole and we will fix it. So far you only said "you have a hole... somewhere" with no actual proof or anything. We are used to people like you trying to attack to extort some kind of benefit... everyone got rebuffed  :)


Get real, man up and show proof.


QBOND owner Steven Swanson is A CONVICTED FELON and you gave him a good rating..... FIX IT lol

I am not extorting you but I am not going to work for free either.

Or does Felon not translate to Italian?


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Killerloop on November 30, 2014, 04:54:32 PM
QBOND owner Steven Swanson is A CONVICTED FELON and you gave him a good rating..... FIX IT lol

First: Coinsortium is not Ardeva.
Second: the score you see is directly proportional to the amount of information you provide and its quality. Period. A professional stock exchange like us CANNOT make judgements or advertise anything listed. It is illegal in our jurisdiction.

Users are able to do their due diligence thanks to Ardeva and decide if the investment is worth their money or not. We do not provide investment advice.

I am not extorting you but I am not going to work for free either.

Get real.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 05:08:43 PM
QBOND owner Steven Swanson is A CONVICTED FELON and you gave him a good rating..... FIX IT lol

First: Coinsortium is not Ardeva.
Second: the score you see is directly proportional to the amount of information you provide and its quality. Period. A professional stock exchange like us CANNOT make judgements or advertise anything listed. It is illegal in our jurisdiction.

Users are able to do their due diligence thanks to Ardeva and decide if the investment is worth their money or not. We do not provide investment advice.

I am not extorting you but I am not going to work for free either.

Get real.

Care to explain the contradiction?

Then your service is worthless.... what  good does it do if some sends you 100% fake documents that you can not verify?
Sums up Ardeva below.
Quote
We Ardeva hold what we believe to be real I.D. but we have no way to check to be sure it is real. So if something was to happen we think we know who this guy is but our system is so flawed we can not prove it.

Hence giving people a false sense of security.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Killerloop on November 30, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
Then your service is worthless.... what  good does it do if some sends you 100% fake documents that you can not verify?

Cannot be done.
Get real, man up, show proof and stop spreading FUD... you are indeed worth your reputation.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 05:12:20 PM
Then your service is worthless.... what  good does it do if some sends you 100% fake documents that you can not verify?

Cannot be done.
Get real, man up, show proof and stop spreading FUD... you are indeed worth your reputation.

Can not be done? are you fucking kidding me? Do I need to pull the 100+ people I have in depth background checks for in here to prove it?


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 05:14:54 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640382.0]


Bunch people will disagree with you, it can be done. You just suck.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Killerloop on November 30, 2014, 05:19:36 PM
Bunch people will disagree with you, it can be done. You just suck.

Haters gonna hate.
You are getting from funny to beat 'up (verbally of course) to annoying. Sorry, but I have to deal with serious people with legit tickets and not with some random deluded Joe who spreads FUD with no proof.

Now get the last word in with one of your typical comments and let's be done with it.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: JohnDorien on November 30, 2014, 05:20:11 PM
Then your service is worthless.... what  good does it do if some sends you 100% fake documents that you can not verify?

Cannot be done.
Get real, man up, show proof and stop spreading FUD... you are indeed worth your reputation.

Can not be done? are you fucking kidding me? Do I need to pull the 100+ people I have in depth background checks for in here to prove it?

Vouch for RiverBoatBTC, he found someone for me even outside of US!
Great job!


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on November 30, 2014, 05:21:48 PM
Then your service is worthless.... what  good does it do if some sends you 100% fake documents that you can not verify?

Cannot be done.
Get real, man up, show proof and stop spreading FUD... you are indeed worth your reputation.

Can not be done? are you fucking kidding me? Do I need to pull the 100+ people I have in depth background checks for in here to prove it?

Vouch for RiverBoatBTC, he found someone for me even outside of US!
Great job!

Thanks, yea like I said you are providing a false sense of security... and it is not good.

Now fix you business....


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Killerloop on November 30, 2014, 05:25:41 PM
Vouch for RiverBoatBTC, he found someone for me even outside of US!
Great job!

If you any question about Coinsortium or Ardeva feel free to ask. We are not discussing this scammer/fudder activities on this thread, just legit businesses.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: jayc89 on December 01, 2014, 07:34:20 PM
@RiverBoatBTC: Coinsortium's user verification process is managed in its entirety by a 3rd party company (Ardeva).

Ardeva's purpose is to be a central verification tool mitigating the requirement for users to submit their documents to multiple website owners. I for one grow tiered of having to submit my personal details to numerous websites.

When users register with Ardeva they are able to verify certain "modules" (Home Address, Income, Postal, Government ID etc) all of which helps build an Ardeva score. We then allow these users to link their Ardeva account with their Coinsortium account (just as you can on many sites with your Facebook, Twitter or Google social accounts). Should the user have certain Ardeva "modules" verified, they are granted additional access on Coinsortium to list projects etc.

Having discussed this matter in great depth with Frederic, Ardeva's founder, prior to our partnership, I would challenge anyone to successfully verify an Ardeva account using fake documentation and list a project on Coinsortium.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: NotLambchop on December 01, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
...
Having discussed this matter in great depth with Frederic, Ardeva's founder, prior to our partnership, I would challenge anyone to successfully verify an Ardeva account using fake documentation and list a project on Coinsortium.

Interesting proposition.  What will be my reward, how would you guarantee that you wouldn't welsh on it, and is there a time limit for this offer?


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on December 01, 2014, 07:52:01 PM
ALL ITEMS LISTED ARE NOVELTY ITEMS NOT ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Yall are so daft

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878673.0

Talked to riley, and he agreed the system is flawed and needs work....


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=828834.msg9495643#msg9495643
Quote
Our document verification procedures are more in depth then easily being able to photoshop an ID. We request 3 photos be uploaded.
1. The user must upload the front of ID
2. The user must upload the Back of ID
3. The user must upload a picture of them holding up the ID next to their face ALONG with a 4 digit UNIQUE number that is generated just for their particular verification.
We check the ID for verifiable security features that can be seen. Documents are then encrypted and sent to offline storage.

http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2nypax/kingforge_is_here_everyone_just_updating_you_guys/

Quote
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/23s3wv/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2hr0mz/mod_review_kingforge_fl_floridafakes_fl/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/22nsx3/kingforge_review_w_pics/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2m114i/kingforge_florida_video_review/
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http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/29k8bd/kingforge_review/
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http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2dt0vy/kingforge_florida_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2gjcio/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/26tgyz/kingforge_review_rself/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2dpey7/kingforge_fl_review_compared_to_real_fl/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/22aaoh/kingforge_review_top_notch_fl_ukingforge/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/23yn5v/vendor_partial_review_kingforge/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/21vhu0/kingforge_review_with_pics/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2aqd4q/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/24ikid/kingforge_id_review_no_pics_phone_broken_sorry/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/265nwd/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/25b40r/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2gwsqb/kingforge_review/
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http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/256cpc/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/23bpnl/kingforge_fl_review_w_pic/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2it3r5/ukingforge_florida_review_youll_want_to_read_this/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2cihej/kingforge_is_the_man1month_late_review_sorry/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/285o8w/kingforge_review_several_months_later/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2dqi6z/review_kingforge_fl_id/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2j1kem/kingforge_florida_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/24f0k4/kingforge_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/252h49/ukingforge_has_outdone_himself_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/24vtif/thx_kingforge_for_the_great_cinco_de_mayoreview/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2e7pug/kingforge_fl_comprehensive_review_w_pics_real_vs/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2jjstx/king_forge_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/230nd0/kingforge_is_the_king/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/253z50/kingforge_florida_id_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2mc6cp/shoutout_to_kingforge/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2hcpj2/kingforge_vol_20_first_impressionsquick_overview/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/24129o/recieved_kingforge_id_full_review_soon/
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http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2h6oe3/kingforge_nc_edge_to_edge_holo_review/
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Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on December 01, 2014, 08:14:08 PM
I just went and checked my my mail WOW thank you ARDEVA!!


http://s27.postimg.org/3yc1se1jn/IMAG0271.jpg

I am taking this straight to the bank!!!!!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

http://s16.postimg.org/phgro8zh1/IMAG0272.jpg


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: rileyA. on December 01, 2014, 08:48:35 PM
Riverboat, never once did I say system is flawed. Ardeva is NOT a credit reporting agency, we do not do criminal checks. You are being reported to moderators. I am perfectly fine having a discussion with you in public, even a dispute, but I will not allow you to make false accusations,  or make up statements that were never said by me.

Yall are so daft

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878673.0

Talked to riley, and he agreed the system is flawed and needs work....


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=828834.msg9495643#msg9495643
Quote
Our document verification procedures are more in depth then easily being able to photoshop an ID. We request 3 photos be uploaded.
1. The user must upload the front of ID
2. The user must upload the Back of ID
3. The user must upload a picture of them holding up the ID next to their face ALONG with a 4 digit UNIQUE number that is generated just for their particular verification.
We check the ID for verifiable security features that can be seen. Documents are then encrypted and sent to offline storage.

http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2nypax/kingforge_is_here_everyone_just_updating_you_guys/

Quote
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/23s3wv/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2hr0mz/mod_review_kingforge_fl_floridafakes_fl/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/22nsx3/kingforge_review_w_pics/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2m114i/kingforge_florida_video_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2fuvai/kingforge_updated_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/24i4ni/review_comprehensive_ukingforge_florida_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2gm1es/mod_review_kingforge_fl_oh_yeah/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2gw6oz/mod_review_kingforge_fl_20/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/29k8bd/kingforge_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/21ndkp/mod_review_kingforge_fl/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2dt0vy/kingforge_florida_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2gjcio/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/26tgyz/kingforge_review_rself/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2dpey7/kingforge_fl_review_compared_to_real_fl/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/22aaoh/kingforge_review_top_notch_fl_ukingforge/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/23yn5v/vendor_partial_review_kingforge/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/21vhu0/kingforge_review_with_pics/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2aqd4q/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/24ikid/kingforge_id_review_no_pics_phone_broken_sorry/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/265nwd/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/25b40r/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2gwsqb/kingforge_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2e7q38/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/256cpc/kingforge_fl_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/23bpnl/kingforge_fl_review_w_pic/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2it3r5/ukingforge_florida_review_youll_want_to_read_this/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2cihej/kingforge_is_the_man1month_late_review_sorry/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/285o8w/kingforge_review_several_months_later/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2dqi6z/review_kingforge_fl_id/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2j1kem/kingforge_florida_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/24f0k4/kingforge_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/252h49/ukingforge_has_outdone_himself_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/24vtif/thx_kingforge_for_the_great_cinco_de_mayoreview/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2e7pug/kingforge_fl_comprehensive_review_w_pics_real_vs/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2jjstx/king_forge_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/230nd0/kingforge_is_the_king/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/253z50/kingforge_florida_id_review/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2mc6cp/shoutout_to_kingforge/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2hcpj2/kingforge_vol_20_first_impressionsquick_overview/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/24129o/recieved_kingforge_id_full_review_soon/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/26g5xe/kingforge_review/
North Caroline Reviews:
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http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2m4ycg/kingforge_nc_review_with_real_o21_comparison/
http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid/comments/2h6oe3/kingforge_nc_edge_to_edge_holo_review/
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Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on December 01, 2014, 08:52:52 PM
Highly doubt the mods will do anything

Quote
Riley from Ardeva here.

We want to thank you for your feedback and recommendations.  Ardeva is a tool for due diligence,  we do various stages of checks to help find out legitimacy of users online and are always looking to expand our procedures as well as make them more rigorous. As a FREE service and startup, we are always looking for ways to improve our service as well as find a potential for revenue streams. We will take these suggestions for the future possibly for a small fee.

We are always here to answer your questions and welcome constructive criticism. We grow when we get your feedback.


If it was perfect why are you looking for more rigorous standards  ???


...
Having discussed this matter in great depth with Frederic, Ardeva's founder, prior to our partnership, I would challenge anyone to successfully verify an Ardeva account using fake documentation and list a project on Coinsortium.

Interesting proposition.  What will be my reward, how would you guarantee that you wouldn't welsh on it, and is there a time limit for this offer?

I am also interested in this...


lamby I can get you a check lol


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on December 06, 2014, 05:10:45 PM
Bump, These guys have a investment club and they are all in bed with each other.... Yea say I am lieing lol


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: duckydonald on December 20, 2014, 07:17:05 AM
I put my info with them and then I found out that my ID was stolen, WTF Ardeva!!!!


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Killerloop on December 20, 2014, 10:36:07 AM
I put my info with them and then I found out that my ID was stolen, WTF Ardeva!!!!

Of course you have proof and this is not random trolling


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: duckydonald on December 20, 2014, 03:03:06 PM
I put my info with them and then I found out that my ID was stolen, WTF Ardeva!!!!

Of course you have proof and this is not random trolling
Trolling?????  I got a score report someone and some had used my ID info to get a debit card, I am speaking with credit agency and and a lawyer now to be protected.  you want me to post my info on here for you all to see???  This is right now the only place besides my bank and other trusted sources have my info.   I dont know how I can prove it was them but still I doubt my bank leaked out my info and Ardeva is the only one online that has my info.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Killerloop on December 20, 2014, 03:10:24 PM
Trolling?????  I got a score report someone and some had used my ID info to get a debit card, I am speaking with credit agency and and a lawyer now to be protected.  you want me to post my info on here for you all to see???  This is right now the only place besides my bank and other trusted sources have my info.   I dont know how I can prove it was them but still I doubt my bank leaked out my info and Ardeva is the only one online that has my info.

I am not asking anything out of you, nor I do want any part in this. You just made an accusation without proof, ask your lawyer if that is legal and hope that Ardeva doesn't sue you for damages due to online defamation into the most populated BitCoin community.

Have a nice day.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: duckydonald on December 20, 2014, 03:25:17 PM
you are such a dumb shit, read where did I say that it was ardeva?   I said WTF Ardeva, is not enough to take me to court,  This is why I said before I make a 100% accusation Ill speak to a lawyer first.  I said there are two that have my info, my bank and Ardeva, so I will again speak with a lawyer and make a couple of calls, They cant sue me on just this.  Ask a lawyer, or go back to law school.

I contacted Ardeva also I wanna know how they are keeping my info secure.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Killerloop on December 20, 2014, 03:27:24 PM
you are such a dumb shit, read where did I say that it was ardeva?   I said WTF Ardeva, is not enough to take me to court,  This is why I said before I make a 100% accusation Ill speak to a lawyer first.  I said there are two that have my info, my bank and Ardeva, so I will again speak with a lawyer and make a couple of calls, They cant sue me on just this.  Ask a lawyer, or go back to law school.

You are just an average internet John Doe: troll, ignorant and impolite.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: duckydonald on December 20, 2014, 03:31:36 PM
you are such a dumb shit, read where did I say that it was ardeva?   I said WTF Ardeva, is not enough to take me to court,  This is why I said before I make a 100% accusation Ill speak to a lawyer first.  I said there are two that have my info, my bank and Ardeva, so I will again speak with a lawyer and make a couple of calls, They cant sue me on just this.  Ask a lawyer, or go back to law school.

You are just an average internet John Doe: troll, ignorant and impolite.

you were the one coming to me making threats,  I said Im doing my own investigation, now since there are many trolls like you, ill just wont waste my time here and do everything locally and privately. 

Ardeva I sent you an email Please reply


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: Killerloop on December 20, 2014, 03:42:15 PM
you were the one coming to me making threats,  I said Im doing my own investigation, now since there are many trolls like you, ill just wont waste my time here and do everything locally and privately. 

Ardeva I sent you an email Please reply

Sure sure, you can now troll elsewhere and make room for legit questions.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: legendster on January 18, 2015, 10:41:05 PM
Hi Scottbit, Fred here from Ardeva.

Ardeva is a registered Canadian company located in Laval, Quebec, Canada.

Once we approve documents you send us, they are encrypted directly by our system with a public key, while the private key is stored on a few USB drives at safe locations. Once a week, we move all encrypted files from the server to external offline storage as an extra layer of security. We basically parse the required informations from your documents, save them in our database, and then encrypt the files. We don't use your ID/documents for anything except for legal purposes (i.e. you run away with somebody's BTC).

I hope that answered your concerns, and I invite you to contact us at hello@ardeva.com if you have any questions about our service.

Regards,
Frederic Houle
Ardeva Founder

But you do store someone's complete identity information. Bitcoin was supposed to be anonymous. But then again catching scammers wont be possible, oh wait.. I totally forgot, scammers use their own identities online !! They would never steal someone's identity to scam someone else, oh no.
Yes that makes so much sense.


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: bitcoinbarron on May 04, 2016, 01:15:58 PM
Sorry to resurrect a very old post, but after sending my verification documents to Ardeva last week. The website is giving me a : "Error code 16
This request was blocked by the security rules" and denying me access. just showing a spash screen hosted by some company called incapsula.

https://www.incapsula.com/why-am-i-seeing-this-page.html?src=23&utm_source=blockingpages

I was going to start a new topic but I thought it would be better to keep all the info about them in one place.

Just concerns me that after sending all the info off that suddenly it looks like I am blocked from accessing their servers :/

Regards
A


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: bitcoinbarron on May 04, 2016, 04:12:29 PM
Update:

Emailed support on the above email address with this response:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

     hello@ardeva.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain ardeva.com by smtp.secureserver.net. [68.178.213.37].

The error that the other server returned was:
550 5.1.1 <hello@ardeva.com> Recipient not found.  <http://x.co/irbounce>

Doesnt look good, I would warn others about this website


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: bitcoinbarron on May 15, 2016, 01:22:29 AM
Fed Up of ARDEVA

They are a scam/documents/laundering/hub.

Tried on many occasions to attempt to verify my documents, but they keep asking over and over for clearer copies (apparently a picture from a iPhone 6+ isn't high enough quality)

AVOID with all caution as it just seems to be a document harvesting expedition.

Regards

Alex


Title: Re: >> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft
Post by: )(avoc on June 10, 2016, 03:20:34 PM
ardeva is no longer a canadian company, has been bought by btcpop and is a fully registered english company now.
they are not a scam hub, as you claim, i have been registered there for over a year, and never an issue.
there was recently a lot of pop members registered, due to moving out of btcjam and their staff have been backlogged, so there may be some issues, but emails should be working again.