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For anyone looking to post their deleted posts from the official thread in. Meant as a mirror to the "Official AMT Thread round 3: Future Plans."

And for legal reference for anyone looking at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830189.0 you can reference this thread for any deleted posts. It will be removed if AMT removes theirs however and retracts ALL negative statements against me and anyone else they libel against.

Considering the financial damages that AMT has caused every one of their customers, and has not posted a plan but merely alludes to a plan to refund, and instead spends the bulk of their opening post attacking me, I have opted to do this. I am left with no choice but to defend myself against such hostile actions by the CEO of a company that has taken money from people and provided inferior undervalued products that NOWHERE NEAR look like what was advertised. On top of that they do not perform as stated.

When I worked WITH him to try to address these issues (detailed in the chats) I did so with the expectation that it would lead to compensation for everyone. Now he claims the chats are false. I will leave that to various investigations to look at and validate. The chats will be posted by the owner of the group chat room in one of the next posts.

Frankly I was ready to move past this but this latest thread by Joshua Zipkin CEO of AMT, and his hostile attacks against me for speaking out against his actions and calling him out on his unethical behavior, is getting old. If he is looking to move on, then attacking his previous customers and opening up these wounds is not the way to do it.

This is an open letter to AMT_Miners and CEO Joshua Zipkin: I am formally requesting ALL of my personal information removed from ALL of your posts past and present removed forthwith, by END OF DAY 10/21/2014. Failure to do so will find you subject to a cease and desist and further legal action taken against you. As your actions and statements have proven libelous and caused financial harm to me, I will address this matter in a court of law. And your implied death threats to me and others and encouraging people to come to my home after publicly posting my home address and stating I did high level work for the government, is also a matter of criminal issue that will be addressed. Please note also that Joshua Zipkin has seen it to also Dox my wife who has had NOTHING to do with this.

#ASKFTC

EDIT:Since so many of the customers on here are not speaking up for themselves, I figure they can I am giving Josh an out as I am tired of this nonsense. But I did get screwed of 11k. I am not letting that go until I get that back. But if noone else wants to fight for their money, thats on them. People should be speaking up but few do. I am tired of doing it for those who are not willing to fight back for themselves. This man took your money and some of you still have not received hardware from what I have been told.

OPEN Letter to Joshua Zipkin AMT_Miners:

You know what Josh? You want this all fixed? Fine. There are a ton of unhappy customers, but a few are speaking up for themselves any more. I am not going to keep at that if they are unwilling to do anything for themselves either, I'll keep it simple. I am not going to do their job for them. They want their money back then its on them, they have the info they need to proceed how they wish.

I am tired of all this crap. I will agree to remove ALL of my posts about AMT ONLY if the following conditions are met first as you have shown you are not a man of your word (everyone here can show that with ease I won't):
-give me my refund (THAT must happen first because you have consistently proven you are not a man of your word),
-I will return ALL your machines even the broken ones you never took back and the two 800-900Ghs machines you sent me (at your expense not from my refund)
-and finally if you remove ALL references of my name, work history and references about me from ALL of your posts. That simple.

The benefit to you? One less vocal unhappy customer to deal with, ALL your obligations with me are fulfilled once those conditions are met and I have no further cause to come at you in any shape or form. Benefit to me? Peace of mind. If you are just in this to be vindictive then you have proven everything everyone has said about you. Think about that carefully. For your part it will just lead to start clearing the slate for you. You get a chance to start over honestly if you really want to. And seeing as I posted it publicly it is out there now. Your choice.

If you cannot do those things, then we can keep at this for whatever it's worth. The difference is I am just posting the truth about you on here. I am honesytly tired of this drama. All I wanted were two working miners in March as you promised. You lied repeatedly about thier delivery and working condition. And then are now resorting to spreading lies about me.

This makes everything simple. Now if you want to keep at it. That's on you. I am prepared to address it and keep going. I have other legal options on the table to more decisively address this, but to be honest my time is better spent in other pursuits, video games among them ;) I imagine you have other pursuits as well you want to go at.

Posted to remind Joshua Zipkin of Reality


Oh Josh.. you seem to have forgotten just who made that chat room - ME. EVERYTHING POSTED THERE IS 100% ACCURATE. For those who need a refresher course in reality, here you go:
https://sites.google.com/site/hpulhp/home/files/AMT-NDA%20Room%20chats%20to%20date%20names%20REDACTED%20.pdf?attredirects=0&d=1

and more before it goes away...

We've always liked you Rich, but if that were a true skype chat wouldn't you be in breach of your NDA? And no one cares about 200 pages of a bullshit skype chat where you and tony are doing most of the talking. Really, who cares? All of the 156 clients that we have? The micro community that's left on this forum?  Again Rich, with respect please do stay out of these distractions or arguments. Ja is there no relief for the son of a window?
[/quote]

You mean the NDA that you never signed? Takes more than one party to make an agreement bucko. Yes the chat room is 100% true and no I am not in violation.
That aside, the real IP points are all in the pm chats which even though am NOT legally bound to keep sealed (remember? You never signed anything?) I still am. Professionalism and all that ya know? Scratch that - you wouldn't.

FOR THE REAL UNOFFICIAL AMT THREAD #3.  PLEASE CLICK HERE.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830189.0

What Tim says about Tom says more about Tim than it does about Tom. I will let the community digest that one, while Joshua Zipkin continues his virtual vendetta against me and my family.

As he cannot censor this thread, he has instead also opted to use my username here instead of my real name which I have not given him permission to use publicly. ALSO US laws prohibit such disclosure of info by business owners. He has broken a number of laws in these actions. I will continue to respond to his actions in kind. 

LMAO....dude take your meds. This is the UNOFFICIAL page. So you are admitting yours is unofficial? And how often do I actually push them? I mean sure I do mention them from time to time. They do good work, they deserve the praise when they do good work. Anyone does.

I have two fake cloud hashing sites do I? Oh do tell. it's news to me. The electric bill thing again news to me. Making shit up especially when you CLEARLY are off your meds or out of your mind does not work well for you. You just come off as insane.

Prove your points with actual you know facts. Instead of making shit up. Altho I think you are projecting....according to the leaked chats you had a 50TH pool AND you were the one who was trying to make a cloud hashing site...

http://bit.ly/1s7U2Yb search the PDF for cloud....sure I tried helping you with it initially, but was not gonna give you my knowledge just like that. You expect me to believe after everything I was going to trust you to pay me after the work was done? You have a consistent pattern of behaviour. I gave you just enough documentation to see it was possible. But that was it. That is the extent of my cloud hashing...you however did have one....maybe two that you acknowledged in said chats.

Decided to spam into my thread in large red letters. But since he decided to censor my post...as stated I will repost here. THe truth will out. Again his actions speak MUCH louder than anything I am saying. But the proof is here.

This little tantrum of Joshua Zipkin's and directing against me in particular with complete lies of 40Th farms and crap (actually YOU had the 50TH farm...anyone can look at the chats for that).

At this point you took mine and others money, screwed us on hardware, backed off on your own MPP (miner protection program) compensation program by your own admission, and then anyone who called you on it you took to posting their information on the internet including mine.

for the official line of bullshit click the link above.

Since so many of the customers on here are not speaking up for themselves, I figure they can I am giving Josh an out as I am tired of this nonsense. But I did get screwed of 11k. I am not letting that go until I get that back. But if noone else wants to fight for their money, thats on them. People should be speaking up but few do. I am tired of doing it for those who are not willing to fight back for themselves. This man took your money and some of you still have not received hardware from what I have been told.

OPEN Letter to Joshua Zipkin AMT_Miners:

You know what Josh? You want this all fixed? Fine. There are a ton of unhappy customers, but a few are speaking up for themselves any more. I am not going to keep at that if they are unwilling to do anything for themselves either, I'll keep it simple. I am not going to do their job for them. They want their money back then its on them, they have the info they need to proceed how they wish.

I am tired of all this crap. I will agree to remove ALL of my posts about AMT ONLY if the following conditions are met first as you have shown you are not a man of your word (everyone here can show that with ease I won't):
-give me my refund (THAT must happen first because you have consistently proven you are not a man of your word),
-I will return ALL your machines even the broken ones you never took back and the two 800-900Ghs machines you sent me (at your expense not from my refund)
-and finally if you remove ALL references of my name, work history and references about me from ALL of your posts. That simple.

The benefit to you? One less vocal unhappy customer to deal with, ALL your obligations with me are fulfilled once those conditions are met and I have no further cause to come at you in any shape or form. Benefit to me? Peace of mind. If you are just in this to be vindictive then you have proven everything everyone has said about you. Think about that carefully. For your part it will just lead to start clearing the slate for you. You get a chance to start over honestly if you really want to. And seeing as I posted it publicly it is out there now. Your choice.

If you cannot do those things, then we can keep at this for whatever it's worth. The difference is I am just posting the truth about you on here. I am honesytly tired of this drama. All I wanted were two working miners in March as you promised. You lied repeatedly about thier delivery and working condition. And then are now resorting to spreading lies about me.

This makes everything simple. Now if you want to keep at it. That's on you. I am prepared to address it and keep going. I have other legal options on the table to more decisively address this, but to be honest my time is better spent in other pursuits, video games among them ;) I imagine you have other pursuits as well you want to go at.

This explains an awful lot over his recent attack at me. Discredit me ahead of his new venture or threaten me into silence Probably figured if I learned about this I would expose it....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830545.0

Well I won't take credit for that. Gleb Gamow the venerable and intrepid BCT investigator of frauds and scamsters made this discovery.

LMAO you can'ts read too gudz can ya. MIMSY...I made it UNOFFICIAL. You made it OFFICIAL on yours. And this thread as stated is here so you can't censor speech. Already deleted one of my posts. I figured other's will come. And now its clear why you came out swinging. You are starting an exchange it appears if all the information that has been exposed is correct. It means you got money to burn, and this is your victory dance on us.

This fat fuck is an idiot. Fuck this bullshit. Here is all his info, no respect to anyone. Most a you must know all dis shit but fuck it. He stole from me too not gonna post my order# and deal with this stoopit shit. He talking about opium stiffin people for a fuckin electric bill. Well read below bitches, Fat fuck stiffed his landlord for RENT and got his ass sued....TWICE!!! Looks like Joshy Zipkin is gonna be getting stiffed by big ol bubba as a prison bitch. Nigga got no respect for peoples family or nothing. So here I am goin getto on his ass. This is me speaking for me. opieum you right son, we need to speak up for ourselves. I'll try a little harder been quiet for a long time now. Fo now. enjoy some readings about this fat retards life.

Joshua Zipkin Zipkin
Gender: N/A
Location: Philadelphia, PA, US
Company: Setup Starters Inc
Title: CEO
Email: joshua.zipkin@gmail.com
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2   Facebook   http://facebook.com/people/_/9358252
3   Facebook   http://www.facebook.com/josh.zipkin
4   Linkedin   http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joshua-zipkin-zipkin/4/553/329
5   Linkedin   http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joshua-zipkin/6/a52/222
6   Yahoo   http://profile.yahoo.com/haysiurm5o553vg6v6jc47636m


Joshua Zipkin Zipkin
Gender: N/A
Location: Philadelphia, PA, US
Company: Setup Starters Inc
Title: CEO
Email: joshua.zipkin@gmail.com
#   Network   Profile URL
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2   Facebook   http://facebook.com/people/_/9358252
3   Facebook   http://www.facebook.com/josh.zipkin
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5   Linkedin   http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joshua-zipkin/6/a52/222
6   Yahoo   http://profile.yahoo.com/haysiurm5o553vg6v6jc47636m

Joshua Zipkin
Location: Elkins Park, PA
Address History
Addresses
Found

Joshua Zipkin
Summary
Personal Information
Aliases: Joshua Zipkin
Age:
Phone:
215-886-2908
215-758-2262
215-277-5912
215-277-1326
215-887-1063

Property
# Address Last Seen Date
1 607 Oak Shade Ave, Elkins Park, PA 19027
2 101 Washington Ln, Apt M201, Jenkintown, PA 19046
3 101 Washington Ln, Abington, PA 19046


Possible Relatives
Relatives
# Name Age Address
1 Samantha Zipkin 27

2 Jeanette Weiss Zipkin 53 309 Bala Ave, Bala Cynwyd, PA 19004
(04/1986 - 11/2003)
618 Hazelhurst Ave, Merion, PA 19066
No Occupancy Dates Specified

3 Jack Weiss 99 1001 City Ave 1001, Wynnewood, PA 19096
(11/1992 - 06/2010)
1001 City Ave Apt 1105, Philadelphia, PA 19151
(10/2002 - 01/2004)

4 Leonard Alan Weiss 54 10019 Cleary Blvd, Plantation, FL 33324
(06/1981 - 04/2003)
3517 Derby Ln, Weston, FL 33331
(06/1981 - 02/2001)

5 Susan L Walczak 60 3009 Gilham St Apt 1ST, Philadelphia, PA 19149
(09/1993 - 01/2003)
3009 Gilham St Apt 2ND, Philadelphia, PA 19149
(09/1993 - 09/1993)

6 Josh Zipkin NA

7 Jeanette M Weiss 27

8 Jeanette Weiss NA 607 Oak Shade Ave, Abington, PA 19027
No Occupancy Dates Specified
9 Stella Weiss NA

10 Harry Y Weiss 85 5903 5th Ave Apt 303B, Pittsburgh, PA 15232
(03/1990 - 05/2011)
5903 5th Ave Apt 309, Pittsburgh, PA 15232
(01/2005 - 02/2005)

11 Jessica Zipkin 23

12 Samantha Zipkin 29 607 Oak Shade Ave, Elkins Park, PA 19027
No Occupancy Dates Specified
311 S 13th St Apt 306, Philadelphia, PA 19107
No Occupancy Dates Specified

13 Harrison H Zipkin 53 1255 Brighton Way, Edgmont, PA 19073
(10/2002 - 04/2004)
102 Longo Dr, Avondale, PA 19311
No Occupancy Dates Specified

14 Linda Ann Salvitti 58 1255 Brighton Way, Newtown Square, PA 19073
No Occupancy Dates Specified
2433 Garrett Rd, Drexel Hill, PA 19026
(10/1977 - 10/1986)

Bankrupticies, Judgements, and Liens
Name: Joshua Zipkin
Type: SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT
Amount: $3,111
Court: MONTGOMERY DISTRICT JUSTICE 38-1-05
Case Number:
TMS ID: HGLT0000215063111PAMOTMM
Jurisdiction: Pennsylvania
Chapter:
Debtor Address: 101 Washington Ln Apt M201, JENKINTOWN, PA 19046
Creditor: COLONADE APARTMENTS

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Joshua Zipkin Unavailable $1,409 CIVIL NEW FILING
Name: Joshua Zipkin
Type: CIVIL NEW FILING
Amount: $1,409
Court: MONTGOMERY DISTRICT JUSTICE 38-1-05
Case Number:
TMS ID: HGLT0000215061409PAMOTMM
Jurisdiction: Pennsylvania
Chapter:
Debtor Address: 101 Washington Ln Apt M201, JENKINTOWN, PA 19046
Creditor: COLONADE APARTMENTS

Wow...well that's interesting. Pot calling the kettle black...except well what he said about me with the electrical shit was lies. I only ever interacted with him in the chats minus the one time I met him in person...and the chats were the WHOLE content save for the usernames content of it. No mention of me screwing someone for an electric bill eh?

Alternatly when I met with him in person, it was ONLY to pick up my miners. I said very little, he did all the talking.

Some how it doesn't surprise me.

He or his medium sized staff (maybe referring to his penis?) as by his own account he has almost no staff to speak of.

OK so does any one know if he owns any property cars ect ?

Lets go after what we can get out money back ?

We can place liens and go after everything if the lawyers are going to take for ever I will file a a small claims or our own class action lawsuit .

Or each of us does a class action lawsuit and go against his properties ect

cant seem to find anything owned in Philly by this guy

btw if you see this fag in person what would you guys do ?

Well since he has a habit of making misleading or outright false statements, I thought it would be worth noting I found the BTC addresses they are using. Thanks to my source who had this information FYI reliable and definitive origin point . Let's play FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!

https://blockchain.info/address/1P9NwQ1pUS8vpKRG8um6NyAXLcvv1dG9sg originating bitpay address used to pay AMT
https://blockchain.info/address/1N7pFYGpthLU2HcvaLR2FPreAYKSX4Ms6K
https://blockchain.info/address/1L1YrK5ij5WRDJzVvHmNu9igjjAsrAGP8M
https://blockchain.info/address/13p4zncq6m3Ax7tvKhEG2k49hgwfS5g7ic

The 3 addresses following have huge amounts moved into them. Obviously there will be more money being moved around. Least to get a feel for where the money goes and went. Want to thank my source for this, he/she can come forward if they want credit, but they should know they have my thanks for this information they provided.

Censorship: but least we can repost elsewhere.

Haha. From the latest bullshit AMT thread.

https://i.imgur.com/nkPBOxx.png

http://youtu.be/Hbf2bQcByQE

Watch away. I figure Gleb will repost here his great treatment and review on Joshua Zipkin's.....interview. Feel free to post some feedback in the video.

Feel free to add some commentary to the following gallery. Not posted by me...I was informed of it however. Someone opted to take some highlights of the youtube interview and the Kiev talk.

https://imgur.com/a/h5Mp0

If you have some feedback post up the images with a bit of commentary on your thoughts.

Here are a couple:

https://i.imgur.com/oLBo49t.jpg

HURRR DURRR umm we umm came in 3rd place making a Terraminer

https://i.imgur.com/P1pzeQX.jpg

Middle finger raised at Ukrainian crowd.

https://i.imgur.com/Q08322J.jpg

Advertising his 0.09W/Ghs unicorn miners. Then picking his nose if the raised finger is any indication

https://i.imgur.com/zOeFaAJ.jpg

Evidently talking about wanking it to the hot reporter chick interviewing him. Or wanking it to the dude interviewing him. Or wanking it to the reflection in the mirror or thinking about how he screwed a ton of people out of a bunch of money or how he will screw more out of it.

This video is funny as hell. His answers are pure comedy gold. Amazing fail CEO!

This needs to be posted to /r/cringe on Reddit...

if i ever get to place my eyes on this man it's not going to be pretty.

Because of all the censorship from the "official" thread run by Joshua Zipkin aka AMT_miners I will post little to nothing worth posting there. But that said. Here is a link (terrahash situation) that might be of relevance and has ALOT of parallels with our situation.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437525.msg9362262#msg9362262

First let's note that Josh has not set foot in the US since he went to China he went to Bulgaria which is something he said he would do even as early as July of this year. Many had already stated this was the plan all along. This is likely the case.

Considering his ties here it seems very odd. But again once the case results are in, I suppose we can reserve judgement for the supposed dates he is starting his payment plan. But I think it should be noteworthy that even with a Judgement he could still hide. Let us hope this is not the case considering all the other things that have happened.

 

https://i.imgur.com/Q08322J.jpg
"Mommy said that I shouldn't eat my boogers. Well, mommy's not here, am I'm hungry for something kosher."

http://cs10358.vk.me/u156128517/-7/x_25a962a3.jpg
"Lord, Jehovah. Tell me who I need to suck off so that I can earn other suit."

I thought I would address this post just because Josh is a dick who decided to post my customer info more than once and backtrack without an apology by deleteing his posts (which I quoted for posterity and caught on wayback machine ;). Since Josh has a habit of deleting his posts to try to beat the mirror (wayback machine got it all archived tho so you still fail at life you moron)....

Specifically want to address the bitmaintech comment with contrasts between why I advocate bitmain over AMT.....

-First, they are honest (to date no lies from them regarding their delivery dates or actions) vs the hundreds of lies told by Joshua Zipkin and his alleged representatives using the AMT_Miners account

-Second bitmaintech delivers when they say they will (consistent) vs the MANY repeated lies about deliveries by AMT's Joshua Zipkin and his representatives using the AMT_Miners account

-Bitmaintech makes up for any mistakes they make in various ways like coupons or discounts and customer service vs AMT blaming customers for AMT hardware failures and its numerous fails to it's customers, additionally outing their customers PRIVATE information when called out on their faults and lies.  

-While Josh fantasizes about dick riding, no I do not do that, not my thing.....BUT I ain't judging. His retarded attempt to set me up in a post war, then delete the posts in an attempt to make it look like I am just smearing him with no proof....jokes on him. Wayback machine has been used in court cases successfully against these types of things. So proof is there. But I digress.

-Bitmaintech responds to customer emails. I have had a couple of issues, they are great at responding and giving simple solutions to issues and the potential options if the issue is due to hardware...meaning replacement if there is an issue. They focus on the customer being happy and they get mine and many other's REPEAT business as a result. vs AMT which ignores customer requests, answers little or no questions, and blames the customer for faults with their hardware. This comes from numerous reports.

-Oh and I will address the fake cloud hashing sites in brief mostly because this allegation is beyond retaded and without any kind of proof.....I don't have anything of the sort. Its easy to prove as A: Josh will need to post links to said sites, so how can he discredit my so called fake sites if he posts no links? B: Alternately burden of proof is on him to show the sites exist AND are indeed mine.

Also might be worth noting someone might know where this is based on this address

Tech Center
133 Nishava Str.
Havertown, PA 1404
USA

Not far from the original space either.

- See more at: http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/the-deal-fair#sthash.MdXCD5DJ.dpuf

#ASKFTC
#JoshuaZipkinAMT
#AMTsucks
#AMTscam

#ASKFTC
"Joshua Zipkin AMT"
"AMT sucks"
"AMT scam"
"Josh Zipkin AMT"
"Josh Zipkin"
"thedealfair.com"

Anyone know what happened to the November date AMT claims to have something? There was alot of hooplah over that.

http://web.archive.org/web/20141207214019/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830189.msg9770379

For purposes of archiving the official thread remarks before they go.

The Judge Actually is saying that we are a CLASS and that the amount is well within the amount stated previously. It is beyond prudence to say it is a CLASS now. Read the article from the 12th of December on Google.

Craig Lenell vs Advanced Mining      - Google Search Terms.

Excellent news!!! Time for his gravy train to come to a train wreck!!!

Posted here for informational purposes. People can start investigating once more ;) trial seems to be happening and AMT either has to settle or go to trial which would be REALLY bad for them. Also curious what happened with their so-called IMET suit. "Joshua Zipkin" talked about suing the shit out of everyone. Clearly he has the money to do that.

We a putative class but not a certified class yet.

In a footnote in the order denying the dismissal the court says, "We will not parse the issue of class certification at this time because the question of whether a
class is ultimately certifiable is premature when evaluating a motion to dismiss."

But this is a step in the right direction.

Someone already posted it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/2qmjrn/ceo_joshua_zipkin_cringeterview/

Regardless the dismissal of even looking at the sales records is pretty much a legal fuck you to Joshua Zipkin sole shareholder of Advanced Mining Technologies. This pretty much is headed for certification. I guess the next question is when is the next big date for this to happen.

The best part is that the judge doesn't dismiss their sales records so much as he says I see the records you've provided and your records specifically show they have a case.

It's as if they presented evidence on behalf of the plaintiff.

Apologies for the formatting, but did you know that before today none of the Joshua Zipkin's AMT Miner's negative trust was indexed on any of the search engines? In fact, that's indicative off ALL negative trusts given to anybody on this forum, including Josh Zerlan's Inaba (not linked here, for this is an AMT thread, but wanted to give a prime example to drive the point home).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=152891

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User   Date   Risked BTC amount   Reference   Comments
clenell 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   17.00000000      ordered miner from AMT and they never delivered. they will not issue mea refund or even talk.
Waiting since 1/4/14 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-09-17   0.00000000      I ordered two 1.2 th miners in January 2014, I have not received them. AMT is selling new miners to others without fulfilling the agreement with me! This agreement was made 8 months AGO!!!!!!!!

I gave them $12,000.00 and they do not return my calls or emails!!!!

This has been the worst experience I have ever delt with!!

AMT took my money!!!!!!!!!
athgaurd 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-09-15   8.00000000      Waiting for almost a year for them to deliver miner
athgaurd 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-09-15   8.00000000      Waiting for almost a year for them to deliver miner
bobsag3 5: -1 / +5(5)   2014-09-08   0.00000000      Lying in leaked skype Chats about Black Arrow and technobit dealings.
opieum2 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-09-06   0.00000000      In retaliation for ANY bad information posted my personal details on the forum and FALSELEY claimed I did classified work for the government painting a VERY big target on mine and my familes back. AND on top of it encouraged people to visit me if they "have a problem with him"
asprin 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-28   0.00000000   Reference   Paid $6,000 for miner, shipped 8 months after order when the miner now costs $1,500 and REFUSED a refund.
opieum2 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-25   0.00000000   Reference   Months to fulfill order placed in February. And as a result devaluation of order resulted in getting hardware that was outdated by delivery time (late August).

In addition documented leaked chats that directly contradict public statments made by AMT. No intention of fulfilling the MPP with statements by Josh Zipkin such as "Fuck the MPP"

Constant lies and deceptions with constant excuses with no validation of such. Stay away from AMT. And anything associated with Joshua Zipkin.
avaughan4 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-25   28.00000000   Reference   Has not fulfilled order since 11/6/2013 and refuses to answer questions on public forum or email. DO NOT BUY FROM AMT! THEY OFFER NO SUPPORT AND YOU WILL RECEIVE AN INFERIOR PRODUCT WHEN THEY DELIVER A YEAR LATER!
sirminesalot 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-21   6.00000000   Reference   Unfullfiled order worth $6000 - now miners are being sent out, but they are work 1/5th of the original price.

AMT has no plans to fulfill MPP promised at time of purchase.

Scam Company - Wild cash grab from the start.
AMT_minerLESS 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-20   0.00000000   Reference   AMT/Josh Zipkin Has lied to customers many times.
Look to various posts on the matter. Older unmoderated thread contains alot of the original infos on missed shipping, damaged hardware and lies told. AMT User thread is user managed, current info can be checked there. Use EXTREME CAUTION!
rik_khaos 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-20   6.79127358      AMT originally promised an American build, moved operations over to china.

AMT_miners has constantly and knowingly lied about dates that miners would be shipped with the intent to deceive the purchaser. This includes the dates prominently advertised on the homepage of the AMT website www.advanceminers.com

AMT has refused to supply tracking numbers to clients.

I was once sent a "kit" at one point that had hashing boards that failed to initialize, and chips that burned out due to poor thermal design.

They have repeatedly refused to give refunds that they are legally obligated to process under the FTC regulation.

I as well as others have made formal complaints to the FTC and other consumer protection agencies.

AMT has ignored the laws of the country in which it was founded in and maintains its headquarters in.

Upon receiving my miner on 8/19/2014 I discovered my unit shipped without the Power Supply Unit that was included in the product description and purchase price.

When I unboxed my miner I was greeted with rusty scrap metal with sharp edges that could have injured me had I opened the box another way.

My hardware has depreciated by an amount greater than $4100 dollars between time of order until the time of my receipt, not including missing parts, which effectively bring its value down to zero dollars as the missing power supply is required to use the unit.

AMT advertises a Miner Protection Program on their website located at https://advancedminers.com/miner-protection-plan/ . This program guarantees in no uncertain terms that, “If the networks increases to a point where your investment in our technology is no longer profitable, AMT will upgrade your Miner to the next level Miner absolutely free.”; “When the buyer’s miner is ready to be shipped, we will give that buyer the option of shipping the original miner which they purchased, or to upgrade to the next AMT miner which will allow them to meet ROI and more.”; “We will contact each buyer either by telephone or email with this option at the time of shipment.”; and “If the network increases so much that the next level miner also can’t meet ROI, the product upgrade will continue to the next AMT product which is profitable. Therefore, no matter what happens, our clientele will be left a ROI either way.”

To this date AMT denies to detail plans for compensation under the Miner Protection Plan. AMT often outright deletes posts when asked directly about the plan, or instructs the poster to contact their sales e-mail, sales@AdvancedMiners.com. When the poster contacts the provided e-mail for further communication AMT does not return a response.

The risked BTC is a conversion from fiat (USD) using highest price of bitcoin for the date of purchase.
Chazaki 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-20   13.00000000      Stole $13k from me as well as hundreds of thousands from others. No refunds. Trade with EXTREME caution
Dans 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-19   85.00000000   Reference   Pre-ordered miners back in February with a guarantee that hardware was working in the lab and would ship within a few weeks. Re-confirmed this several times before paying. Once i paid they went silent and now refuse to give a refund.
Bicknellski 0: -0 / +1(1)   2014-08-16   0.00000000   Reference   Thumbs down. Do not buy from this company.
ar9 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-14   0.00000000      Scam company, steer clear if you don't like giving your money away.
iglasses 0: -0 / +1(1)   2014-08-13   0.00000000      Tries to run another scam in the marketplace and eventually deletes all replies and closes thread.
This is nothing but a scam
braindead 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-13   4.00000000   Reference   False auction, didn´t accept escrow services, changes delivery charges etc etc

Waste of time
crashoveride54902 7: -0 / +4(4)   2014-08-09   0.00000000   Reference   Scam Company is scamming, you have been warned...offer paypal, take away paypal and wants btc up front...fail at auctions...just generally bad all around...PM me if you think this is unfair
klondike_bar 1: -0 / +1(1)   2014-08-09   3.94000000   Reference   first they insulted my escrow provider, who has a fantastic reputation
then the shipping costs tripled
then they offered to host my equipment (ie: no escrow)


as far as im concerned this is a total scam. I gave AMT the benefit of the doubt and they shat all over everything.
captin crunch 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-06   32.00000000      I gave AMT nearly $18,000 in November 2013 for 3 miners to be delivered late December '13 to early January '14. I have been told repeatedly over the last 6 months that the equipment would ship by the end of the week.
July 14 AMT claimed to have shipped the 1st half of their backlog which I am clearly in. (currently valued at $4500)
They claimed the delivery process took 3 to 4 days but would not issue tracking numbers to its ustomers. 20 days later, still no mining equipment.
This is absolutely, hands down, the worst company I have ever dealt with in my entire life. The people who run the company are pathological liars and the proof is in their thread.
If you value your money and time I seriously recommend looking for another company to do business with.
subseaguru 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-08-05   0.00000000   Reference   AMT_miners advertised they are selling items and using paypal as payment along with BTC and escrow, they decided to change the payments and not tell anyone. this is the 3rd time that AMT has done this. they claim they accept a payment type then change their minds when it suits them.
x8008 -4: -1 / +0(0)   2014-08-03   2.00000000      Scam company
clenell 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-04-03   11.90000000      I purchased a bitcoin miner from this man on Nov. 11, 2013. I have received nothing as of 4/3/14. He will not issue me a refund and he will not return emails or phone calls. I am order #610 - a 1.2TH machine. I can send you an invoice and bank transfer if it's proof you need.

Looks like that so called 15th compensation plan they promised did not happen as noted in the official thread ;) Can anyone step forward if they have been made whole?

We are well past the time where they claimed to be refunding us. As always and expected, "Joshua Zipkin" and "Tyler Lummis" aka "Jim Brown" have again welshed....clearly fraudulently leading us on while they planned their exit. Josh is in Bulgaria while "Jim Brown" is somewhere else unknown at this time.

#AMTSCAM
#ASKFBI
#BITCOINSCAM

I think my favorite is that Jim Brown is "fictional person" to protect company employees. That is fine but you don't give the Fictional Person the title of Sales Manager which they then use as the signature of their e-mail. I'll be happy to provide that e-mail to the attorney's on the case

excellent. Sent out the PM earlier and I've already got to people to file a FTC complaint lets keep it up.
excellent. Sent out the PM earlier and I've already got to people to file a FTC complaint lets keep it up