Bitcoin Forum

.

Funny, I was just going to post the same thing. I've never been paid on anything what is this  " Turn your website into a money making monster"  B.S ?   He needs to eliminate that as false advertising.

The same problem, still waiting about 1 BTC for Daily Bitcoins.

CoinAd, Giantdragon, bbit: Thank you for posting this. I've been considering putting up ads from BitcoinAdvertisers. I guess I will put that plan on hold for now.

Andrew: Would you care to elaborate on how they violated your TOS?

Please provide proof that I have cheated with banners on Daily Bitcoins!

What, what? May be court in Riga will be better place to discuss your TOS issues!?

@CoinAd
Were you ever told what you did to "violate the TOS"?  I'm guessing not after reading your post.

@Andrew Bitcoiner
If I'm correct and you didn't tell the people who "violated the TOS" what they had done wrong, then I'd say that's pretty close to being a scam.

OK, so it's a guessing game then. My guess is that you don't like how CoinAd has the text "Take this time to visit our sponsors ads." when the timer is ticking down. Daily Bitcoins has something similar, "Visit advertisers’ websites and increase your chances to get bigger prizes!". If I were an advertiser, I wouldn't like that either. However, the normal thing to do in such a situation is to contact the advertiser and notify him of the breach and what you think he should do, not just ban him and take his accumulated earnings.

Provide the references please!

Weren't you involved in a similar situation the other day where you were on the other side of the table?

Can anyone figure out which term they broke?

Are all users of the site breaking the same term?

Would it stand up in court?

---

As it stands i would say stealing someones earned balance is indeed a scam.

I give almost 100% probability that Andrew Bitcoiner would lost in court if sued. But nobody will do this, because legal costs are much higher than stolen balance! One hope left that Andrew Bitcoiner thinks about his karma, but I doubt about this...

Bad call. Those should have been returned to the advertisers.

Well, I for one am pretty sure I have not "tried to game" anything. I do not have such habit (especially to gain just a few pennies). It's not even a money making matter for me, at least not yet as I've just thrown one of my lower traffic websites at BA to evaluate it as a monetization vehicle, to get some indication if it is time to shift some of my activities to bitcoin economy :) etc. (and so far it is much worse than AdSense for example, though it is expected as your system is new, has few competing advertisers, lacks targeting etc.)

Besides, the ads still show up on my website (and the advertisers obviously get charged for them), pageviews, clicks and revenue continue to flow on the stats page etc. I.e. no indication that I have been "banned" whatsoever.

I'm hesitant to jump to conclusions, call anyone a scammer etc.
And if you consider me a scammer can I at least have a courtesy of being told so? Thank you.

I'm just here to collect some bitcoin because supposedly this is way to to "turn your website into a money making monster"  and I haven't seen one penny yet ? How does one even see how much you've made ?

I have some suspicions that BitcoinAdvertisers is based on a pyramid (Ponzi) scheme, where payments for old partners are taken from new ones. Operator sees that he don't have enough funds to pay and intending to increase lifespan of his pyramid just declines payouts to some affiliates, citing his TOS. Another argument in favor of this version is increasing promised payout per visitor to 24.75 mBTC from about 10 just in few days.

Let's get this clear, BitcoinAdvertisers is a scam.

I've been following this with CoinAd administrator and the behavior is very strange. First the payment was delayed and he wasn't banned at all since the advertisements were still allowed to publish and to manage the main account until CoinAd administrator has decided to removed the ads due to non-payment from BitcoinAdvertisers admin. Now Andrew claims CoinAd violated the ToS without responding what closure did CoinAd violated (acording to my investigation none, the website was under the ToS on that time (wouldn't be now if he changed the ToS without prior notice)).

I'm afraid the operator doesn't have enough funds to pay, classic pyramid scheme. Until this situation gets resolved to both parts I do not recommend you (reader) to use BitcoinAdvertisers or any other service provided by Andrew.

Regards,
coinbuck - BTCLot.com Administrator

I don't know about that ponzi bit, surely the advertisers are the ones paying for the site to run. - never looked too much into it because I'm months from launching any sites, the bad maths on the fee's and the way they are treating a complaint has me concerned (even if they are right, they are not acting it)

Trying to skim some extra profit by kicking off a few perceptively easy targets, is easy to fathom, pick on anything that could class as competition and anything with a slight reason that you can argue and not look too bad, worst case scenario is you say sorry and give everyone their dues (total loss of respect but no real loss in coins), best case scenario no one fights and you can keep doing it (gain in coins and invincible feelings)

This reminds me of an old isp i was with, the plan was unlimited* and at first they cancelled the highest using users half way through the billing month monthly (it was in the ToS at least, i never got kicked off) and then they changed to unlimited* up to 20gb, not that they got away with it, every complaint to the TiO here means a fine for the isp, and eventually unlimited became unlimited (ahem, unless you count speed limits lol)

not that i know anything thats not in the thread, so yeah

Well, looks like BitcoinAdvertisers is pickier than Google ;D Turns out the website I was running their ads on was banned as it is not good enough for BA. (although I was never informed of this until I started posting in BA's topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78407.msg916413#msg916413) and PMed Andrew, my earlier inquiry via support form was ignored, ads are still running and advertisers are still obviously paying for them - but not to me ::) ) Will be taking the ads shortly. (to actually implement the ban for the sake of advertisers LOL)

I doubt you'll read or respond to this, but.....


Revoking service is a lot different than taking money they were owed.  Still sounds like you didn't tell them what they had done against your TOS.

When a partner is banned any bitcoin value accrued in the bitcoin address they provide is forfeit to BitcoinAdvertisers.com. Partners sign up of their own free will and at no cost to them. We do not gather contact information for followup communication with partners and as implied in the TOS we are under no obligation to inform partners of when or why they are banned.  If they contact us I am happy to discuss the matter with any partner that feels they have been unduly suspended and have a couple cases where we have happily worked things out.  This is all industry standard accepted practice. 

Uhh... what about the advertiser? Why shouldn't he get his money back for what must be fraudulent clicks? So he is paying you to donate to a charity for him? What is this shit?

The advertiser pays for clicks and they got what they paid for.

... are they bad clicks or aren't they?

if they advertiser got what they paid for why didn't the publisher get paid for what they did?

So you consider those clicks good enough to tick off the "advertisers got what they paid for" box but not good enough to pass on the payment to the providers of those same clicks? ;D
How convenient.

Imagine an estate agent/escrow who sells your house and then tells you "I sold your house but it was crap, so you will not get paid. The purchasers got what they paid for though. So the deal is closed, I do whatever I please with the money I received for your crappy property, and you are BANNED" LOL

@Andrew Bitcoiner

Sounds like what you're doing.

I see nothing of the sort in your terms. I'm with tysat on this one.

As no terms are explicitly defined, your terms are this:

• Currently you could earn 22.77 mBTC for one visitor!
• Only 2% service fee
• Free to use
• Earnings paid automatically to you!

Note: For the benefit of those who were harmed by Andrew Bitcoiner, none of my information or advice constitutes legal advice. I'd advise getting a lawyer to discuss your legal options.

No that doesn't actually translate at all because every ban to a partner occurs to protect the investment each advertiser makes who retain their remaining clicks to legitimate sources of traffic.  There will always be fraud in CPC advertising and I take diligent actions to stop and preempt click fraud so that advertisers get legit traffic to their site and earn new customers.  I cannot tell 100% what is click fraud and what is not but I can make reasonable assumptions about web traffic which is a tried and true industry. It's not easy to do that and it takes a careful judgement of the pros and cons each partner offers to our advertisers and I take that responsibility very seriously.  

As an advertiser on BitcoinAds myself I want my advertising bitcents to be the most effective as possible and future versions of the site will have better analytics for advertisers and partners so that they can legitimately earn bitcoin for using the service.  

Let me direct you to http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/tos.php which is on the top right of every page on the website.

I saw those. None of them pertain to how funds are dispersed and when they can be dispersed. They mention that you can terminate the contract at any time, but there's nothing about you being allowed to keep the funds. Thus, the implied terms overrule, and those imply that the earnings are paid automatically for each and every click.
I see none of this in your terms. Even then, why aren't the funds returned to the advertisers? If the clicks are clearly fraud, then the advertisers shouldn't have to pay for them. You should get the scammer tag for that alone (unless it was in the terms, but it clearly wasn't).

Next time, get a lawyer.

Note: For the benefit of those who were harmed by Andrew Bitcoiner, none of my information or advice constitutes legal advice. I'd advise getting a lawyer to discuss your legal options.

Seems like such a... bullshit corrupt "Fiat Currency" thing to do.

But hey, that's why I like bitcoins the way they work now, I know to just stay away from the dodgy ones.

Are you a lawyer or providing legal advice?  Your whole statement doesn't amount to anything with Section 5 of the TOS.

What am I saying. It should have been obvious that you didn't know what you were doing when you tried committing trademark infringement on Google.

What FRAUD are you talking about?
In my case at least you told me the website was banned because it is not suitable for you in your opinion and that you think it is a "spam site" because there were no updates in a while. I quote: "I don't believe this web property is a good fit for us".

You didn't answer the question so I will assume you are not a lawyer or have any idea what you are talking about.  If you don't like the service, don't use it, very simple. 

Sorry, I was just about to respond to that. Give me a break.

For the benefit of those who were harmed by Andrew Bitcoiner, none of my information or advice constitutes legal advice. I'd advise getting a lawyer to discuss your legal options.

I second that, please have your lawyer contact me on http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/support.php

Please provide proof of your accusations about fraudulent traffic!

If you cannot do this, I and other users affected by your actions reserve the right to fill a lawsuit against you.

Definitely not the money making platform it was 'advertised' to be.  Not going to get into details, but I get somewheres around 100x profits from Operation Fabulous.

Everyone should just use www.operationfabulous.com, it clearly is a trustworthy platform.

I would like to see a scammer tag on anyone involved in this obvious theft

Any update on this ?

-Subscribed

Nope.

What I have seen so far.

1. One complains about being banned and losing earnings
2. Owner being very cryptic about what the problem was. No clear answer.
3. One correctly claims that if the clicks were "bad" the profit should be returned to the advertiser instead of charity
4. Owner doesn't have a clear stance to the: "If the clicks were not "bad" then no ban should have occured. If they were bad, then money should be returned to advertiser."
5. Owner draws our attention to the terms of service
6. Owner says "If you don't like the service, don't use it, very simple." effectively meaning OK you got me. Stop using it now you know and let me do the same to others
7. I'm quoting this from the terms "The Service may terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately." In my opinion cancelling a service without reason and keeping the earnings, is not at all a rational term.

I find the owner's stance too negative and a bit suspicious. Same with the TOS. Although as far as I'm concerned the above are more than enough for me to stop using the service, I do hope this clears up, to protect others if the service is indeed fraudulent or clear the owner's name, if the service is logical and legitimate.

This comment is effectively meaningless.


My service is almost fully automated, if they would of earned anything they would of been paid.  They didn't lose any earnings since they were not earned.  The complainer also runs a competing ad service.




In your opinion.


Let me quote to you Google's Adsense Terms:


As I stated earlier this policy is industry standard practice.



You allege to have used the service, since I do not have partners forum information it is just as likely you just made that up to spread more FUD.

Andrew,

I know the publishers side of your business, Im not involved in.

We've met in SF, and I've vouched for you on this forum when no one else did.

Is this whole thing really worth the few Bitcoins you owe to them? Why cant you just pay your publishers and be done with this.

Your whole companies reputation is being tarnished because of a few Bitcoins.

Moral issues aside, cmon dude this is bad business and you know it. The customer is always 100% right.

Talk to them, settle it out, and end this.

Your gonna lose all your advertisers, including myself if this does not get resolved. That was not a threat, its the simple truth.

What are you gonna do Andrew?

-Charlie

Touché

I did that and it didn't work, what else do you suggest?

For a guy who's analyzing everyone's comments line-by-line, you just skipped over my post and commented on 1 line. Is that fair?

To answer your question - make it work - your not in high school Andrew this is the real world. We can't run away from our issues.

I replied back with what I had a question on, what's the problem with that?

There is no problem with that. I just assumed as a friend you'd give me the decency of responding to my post.

I guess not.

And now its official

The terms of service have been updated to prevent this from being a problem in the future. However, Andrew still needs to pay these people who were legitimately using his service under the old Terms.

rofl. The "hmm" of death.

Please point out the following from the old terms:
a) which part of the Terms they broke
b) which part allows you to keep the bitcoins for yourself
Was that against the old Terms?
That doesn't revoke your obligation to pay them any funds that were pending.
Now you're just pulling a bulanula.
We absolutely heard your counter-arguments! In fact, I would have personally been just fine with you refunding the advertisers instead of paying these guys, despite the fact that no court would agree with me (they'd tell you to pay these guys, no exceptions).
And I don't disagree with this at all, which is why I'm glad that you've gone ahead and updated the Terms so that all parties are aware of this.

Our whole job in scammer investigations are to take a side, but in a fair and unbiased manner. I knew none of the people involved in this dispute, so I feel that I fit the role (note: this investigation is still controlled by tysat until/unless he transfers it to me)

You know you have reached legend status on the forums when your username becomes a descriptive word ! :D

Maged is doing the right thing here. It is justice being handed out fairly for all forum users / scammers.

Next time I will also try and hide behind and use fancy TOS with hidden clauses to protect me.

You forget this is BTC world and not court 8)

Please note term 3) is a lie. CoinAd account wasn't banned or notified about this. Andrew did this to profit even more from the scam.

I've said multiple times that I'm following this case with CoinAd administrator before this thread existence so I can confirm that.

It's up to you to ignore/omit facts. All I can say is that you're screwed up at this moment and you deserve it for the damage you caused to CoinAd and other publishers.

EDIT: I hope you're happy to know that you stole bitcoins that were going to new bitcoin users.

So your advertisers paid for nothing?

So what? You provide partners with a stats page, which they obviously visit, what prevents you from notifying them via these pages?
Then... when answering to posts in this thread you refer to "fraud" as a justification for bans all the time. In my case, I repeat, my website was banned (as I found out much later), stats page was continuing to show flow of earnings, my message via your support form regarding lack of payouts was ignored for days, you reacted only to my pm here after I posted on the forum and told me that my website was banned because it's not "a good fit" for you. Where is fraud in this equation? (at least from my side LOL).
Not that I care about those pennies you chose not to pay to me, but all this tells a lot about your business practices.

And I recall clicking on one of the partners' addresses on your "global" stats page, and there was a message like "CTR is too high, payouts suspended pending investigation". So you actually used this way of notification (before?/for certain partners?). And now suddenly you complain about lack of partners' contact information? ::)

Fact 1: The ads were published and viewed by CoinAd users.
Fact 2: You did not ban CoinAd account, this would allowed you to get more views without having to pay.
Fact 3: CoinAd tried to contact you about this situation but he never got a decent reply.
Fact 4: Until this thread was open you did not care about this situation. It is easier to run away from responsibilities but when things go public it is hard to handle isn't it ?
Fact 5: CoinAd administrator even with this damage still managed to pay to his users and hosting provider.

This advertisements were paid by your clients, so the money is in your pocket right now ?

It's pretty silly to say you disbursed funds to "charity" rather than just credit back the advertisers. I can't imagine many people expecting that sort of thing.

Thinking about putting up a bet about this...
Since it's pretty clear at this point that both sides are entrenched and have walked in their rut so much that they can't climb out.

If I had the time, I'd analyze it more, because there's probably a minimum of 2 logical fallacies used by either side and 2 valid points which haven't been answered to ::)

The money needs to go back to the advertisers.  Either the clicks were valid and should be paid, or they were a scam and should be refunded.  bitcoinadvertisers.com nor a charity should end up with the money.

wow, just wow, first this annoyed me because it was real world corruption in the bitcoin world (company feel's untouchable and starts scamming people "legally") now its just stupid, how someone representing a business thinks he is right and stubbornly sticks to that escapes me

Same here. Been waiting for payment for about a week. Contacted "support" via contact form a couple of days ago and no reply. Took the ads offline yesterday. 14k impressions for nothing  :-\
http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=18Gs5KMhhzyZB31Xpn4Qf2493298j9s7qp
Anyway, ads were low quality (no offense to advertisers, by this I just mean: nothing interesting for non-BTC people) and some were about gambling although I specifically asked not to show gambling ads... I won't miss them as much as my 0.10 BTC...

No sane advertiser would pay for ads with a 60% CTR in the first place.  As soon as the stats started showing that kind of an aberration, you'd know that the majority of click throughs were not legitimate and tell the placement service that you weren't going to pay for any click throughs above the industry standard for the type of ad and degree of targeting.  

Haha, just saw an ad for this thread in my new anonymousads banner (ad text "Take down BitcoinAdvertisers banners - they are fraudsters!"). I had to check it out ;D

Anyway :
- still no reply from support
- still not received payment
- account still in good standing (if I hadn't removed the ads, I would still be giving them free exposures...)
- on a side note, for those who didn't bother to click the link to my stats, my CTR is around 0.06% (8 clicks / 14k impressions)

So, as far as I know, the answer to the OP is : yes, not even a doubt about it. Can anyone here say they did receive a payment from this service in the first place ?

The terms of service are public, aren't they? How could you not discuss them publicly? Do you not understand them or something? Are you talking about not discussing specific customer issues in public? If so, that much I could understand, except you already did that by posting in this thread.  ::)

Scumbags being scumbags. Since there are no favorable discussions of facts, we resort to slander. Yay. Evolution works backwards in the Bitcoin world!

Fair enough.

To be fair, just received a reply to my ticket. Apparently my account had a "temporary suspension", which is now removed, but to receive payout I need to run the ads again (I guess it's because there's no cron-job doing the payments...). I'll try that on the site where I only removed the ad but didn't replace it yet...

Great! I'm so glad that progress is being made to resolve this.

You also do not discuss in private. You just ignore.

This guy clearly deserves a scammer tag.

So many people complaining ...

Have you learned your lesson? its only scamming if you didn't say "i will do whatever i want and if you complain i will do whatever i want anyway" before the deal.

I have indeed learned my lesson. Have a slick TOS that allows me to take all the BTC and not give anything in return ;)

Any corrupt lawyer taking BTC here up for the challenge ? Make it small print too !

Did the ToS say he can do whatever he wants with the advertisers funds? He says he sent them to charity(ies?). It's that part that makes me want to facepalm. It's also the point he refuses to discuss, wonder why?

Well if you agree to the terms and they say your account can be closed at any time then yes it would stand up in court.

Not necessarily. Many judges take a "common sense" approach to these kind of things. Just because the terms may technically allow something doesn't negate the rest of the contract.

Nope. In the ToS you can write everything, even for example that with the click of "I agree" button user gives away his house for free in website's owner favor. Of course it will never be upheld in the court.

Reminds me very much of Google Adsense... In case anyone here wonders, they do just that: close account without any explanation (and you can't even connect to see how your stats were indeed weird or not).

Still haven't received my payment, btw. But as I put the ads on my lowest traffic site, it didn't get any new click yet. Although, I wonder what can be so hard in programming a cron payment...

This has been going on for so long, I forgot which horse I had in this race.

By each on-going page, I think I just keep re-rolling the dice.

Same problem! This is my thread about it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87567.0

You should start searching before using a service. Many people have been scammed and there are plenty complaints on this forum.

Exactly, man.

I learned my goddam lesson now :-\

Never admit to ANYTHING at all and you get scot free.

Valuable fife lesson right there folks.

Works every damn time !

Again I'm left wondering how this can just be okay to do...

because bitcoin.

Well, personally I'll replace the ads when I get the occasion but I eventually got paid.

That's my reason for thinking a scam like this isn't okay

confirmed: total scam
THIS WEB DOES NOT PAY
i removed the banners of my web already,

the owner does not deceive just the user, keeping his account generating traffic without paying and without any notice, but also deceive the guys who bought his service, as the traffic generated and not paid, will be deduced from the traffic the advertiser paid for!
overall a quite round business! full incoming bitcoins and zero outcoming ones.

"turn your website into a money making monster" ?!? BS.

hey averyone, if you ask me http://bitcoinadvertisers.com is the biggest scam site ever!!

we will never get paid out - http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1Jmq5ZmotK5y3KSKRNxx9k67EdiDccmd1G

so everyone out there, do NOT use this site !

The fact that Andrew does not refund advertisers for fraud means that it is in his interest to ban partners for fraud (he gets to pocket the whole cost of their clicks).

In essence, he is directly profiting from defrauding his advertisers.

The model is flawed inherently, the interest of the site operator should always be to maintain a fraud-free service, but with BitcoinAdvertisers this is not the case.

its so frustrating see your few btc's growing,
you wait your payment and nothing happends..
i mailed the owner and no respone.

i can guess the complexity of his php script

if ( $CTR > 0.1 ){
   donotpay();
}else{
   donotpay();
}

He claims there is fraud but it some cases there is no fraud. The advertisers received the traffic, he received the money. Publishers received nothing.

Simple as that.

Btw. He only pays low CTR rates, the rest he just makes claims to not pay. It ain't cheap to pay publishers with high CTR.

he should

1) show clearly the rules to be paid or not, showing witch is the max CTR and so on.
2) if an account is suspected to be fraudulent must be blocked instead of keep it alive generating visits that he will not pay
3) the number of clicks done by the "fraudulent" account must be returned to the advertisers
4) remove the statement that says "i will do whatever i want and google ads got same rules" <--- BS

but this will not happen, because otherwise he would not get so much profit!

Where's the BS in this? Looks like he does whatever he wants and Google Ads sure has the same rules...

yeah, thats the standard  BS companies put so they can steal when they want

now i will open a bitcoin bank, and instead bitcoins i will give you a paper that says "you got x bitcoins"
what? i can't do it? why not? banks do it! seems a legit argument? [...]

Maybe OP can do a poll like this :

Do you think they should be given scammer tags ?

YES
No
I don't know

Or something like that ...

I also stopped using this :)

Make the poll just to spread the word some more, the more people that know its run by a scammer the better

is coinurl.com managed by the same scammer of bitcoinadvertisers.com?

both sites have absolutely the same style and css and so on...

No, coinURL is giantdragon's site.

mmm and any idea about why the equal design? maybe they both used the same template?

Yes, twitter bootstrap, although I'm not sure why most of the colors are the same as well.

Because there are a lot of bootstrap pre-made css files with different color schemes. They just happened to choose the same one, probably for the reason CoinAd said.
That css is called "United"
http://bootswatch.com/

I am an operator of the CoinURL service. I have absolutely no association with the BitcoinAdvertisers. By the way, I was scammed by Andrew Bitcoiner with refusal to pay for ads placed on my another service - Daily Bitcoins.


Andrew Bitcoiner, thank you very much!  ;D ...for creating "awesome" reputation to the all websites that use "United" Bootstrap template.

I'm still waiting for a payment from one of my sites. I have already been paid 0.05BTC, and I'm now waiting another 0.05BTC. I have tried to contact support trough the information listed at your website without any answer.

Im waiting for my payout too!!

http://bitcoinadvertising.com/partnerstat.php?p=17BGbMm1xoR7msTbMrMujk4AUcRURK9EMi

Kind regards!
Yours, Thaayb.
https://ad.anonymousads.com/526/bb (http://click.anonymousads.com/526/bb)

bump ^^ ;)

Everything he touches is a scam, including bitjack21.com, he deleted my account that had over 260btc in it!!!

Make a new thread and present your case with all the evidence you can gather.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105027.0

According to most of the douches here, screenshots and e-mails don't count, so other than that I don't know what kind of evidence there could be.

Don't let others decide what counts or not. Post everything you have. Whoever decides if something counts or not is the person analysing the case.

Andrew Bitcoiner.

Am I going to get paid for the clicks and traffic ive done to your site?

Or are you going to use your TOS against me?

If I dont get paid out, Ill be paying my private investigator to locate you. I will then come and collect in person. Ive done it many times in the bitcoin industry and I dont mind taking a flight some where, little old NZ gets a bit boring sometimes!


http://quantumkiwi.com/bitcoin/bitcoinadvertisers.png

It seems im going to have to make an example out of this " Andrew ".

Putting the P.I onto this guy and his site now.

Will post results of his location ASAP. ( I will be flying wherever and whenever to see this guy )

I dont mind collecting for people however ill sort a process out for this.

Yessir !

Update anyone ???

Update: This scammy fuck is still running amuck without a scammer tag.

Don't worry, karma is a bitch and there is something coming his way :)

Got a P.I on him.

^Hmm, where did I heard that before... Matthew is that you?

Nope, not matthew.

Feel free to PM me for verification if you like.

How's the P.I. doing?

I assume this is to hide the fact that BitcoinAdvertising hasn't had a single payout in several days.

http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1EvMXYKKktz7WSo9TUPKB6qbFBfpdi2EdA (http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1EvMXYKKktz7WSo9TUPKB6qbFBfpdi2EdA)

Lol apparently I have been paid for advertising from him today? Well his ads havent been on my site for 2 weeks though so um thanks?

I haven't read this whole thread, but I've read enough.

I'm not running any of the advertising sites, but I had both bitcoinadvertisers.com and anonymousads.com ads on my website.  The former never paid anything, the latter haven't been up as long, but have paid small BTC payments (my site isn't huge).  After reading what I have of this thread it's confirmed enough of what I suspected about bitcoinadvertisers.com and those links have just been removed.

I figure I've lost absolutely nothing by removing those ads.  I clearly had nothing to gain by leaving them there.

BitcoinAdvertisers website not working for many hours. I guess this scammer decided just to run away with the Bitcoins collected from advertisers without paying anything to the publishers!

Account Suspended, looks like somebody forgot to pay their bill.

His house of shit imploded, nobody wants to deal with this scammy fuck.

P.I found him, compiling evidence for a local prosecution.

I did a blog post on sep 27th on Andrew and BitcoinAdvertisers about scamming and clickfraud.  It looked like he was actively participating in click fraud or allowing it to happen to directly profit off of it from advertisers.  This definitely deserves the scammer tag.

http://btc411.com/2012/09/27/bitcoinadvertisers-scamming-the-bitcoin-community/

So glad to see Andrew's scam-service vanish.

website appears to be back up, and ads are serving on peoples pages, however stats are still down for the public to view....

Still wondering why a decision either way was never made here...