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The Blackcoin Scammer Iconic Expert wants 1500BTC. He offers 3,000,000 Coins for 50k Sat. Total Coin Supply 33,000,000  ;D

Please do not buy in this IPO and don't give this guy your hard earned money.

A shame that bittrex is hosting this.


ANN link http://coinblab.com/forums/topic/24/-/view/post_id/84

DEV Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=260809

Just when I thought the shit storm had passed..... another trash IPO

Reinforcements for this story will be needed.

I guess this is worse then selling mouse pads.

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I checked out the Bytecent thing; fully expected the usual bullshit.  See my post history, I'm known for pissing on scams.  Surprised I'm not banned off here. LightCoinDark people just love me (with a crowbar in the ass if they could ... how's the price these days guys?)

Anyone, back to topic, barring a very future tenses in the ANN (always a bad thing; in crypto the future is always tomorrow ...) IconicExpert's offering isn't half bad, quite interesting, actually.  First time I've ever said that apart from where my heart's at which would be Pandacoin.

There aren't even any bright inforgraphics, vaguely predatory taxicabs, little people in phallic rockets penetrating the moon, charts or any of that.  Just information.  A bit wierd for an ANN to actually give facts.  Not sure how to feel about that.  Feels wrong somehow.

If you take a minute to read through his Twitter, Iconic is painting himself as a changed man.  Less from a good heart than that scams don't earn what they did a few months ago but even mafia fellows in their old age realize they make more money in the system than out, just not all at once in paper bags and no-one shoots at you.

That complex POM system (read about it) might go a ways towards stopping dumping.  Or not.  Nothing else has but at least he's put some thought into things it seems.  We'll have to see how it goes once out in the wild. Good on him for not putting an ANN on Bitcointalk.  Keeps the trash (such as myself usually) out and let's those that want to invest get what real information there is to be had rather than trolls screaming at each other.

Better just think about what you'd with her ...

Yes, Bytecent is scam - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=845494.0

LOL!  :D A $900 T-Shirt! Does anyone fall for this stupidity?

Anything Iconic Expert is associated with is 100% guaranteed to be bullshit.

And that's precisely what we see: incoherent waffle and confused hyperbole larded with weasel words. Allow me to illustrate ...

Stopping briefly to acknowledge an insult to the reader's intelligence ...

“Downloading and installing a cryptocurrency should not require a degree in computer science.” News at 10 ... it doesn't.

... we carry on to the “Marketing” section which contains some ill-concealed wriggling around to avoid making an actual commitment to spend fiat ...

These two media require fiat:
“Placing ads in technology and financial related magazines will allow us” <- no specific commitment
“Radio advertising will provide us” <- no specific commitment

These two don't:
“At least two press releases will be issued each month” <- countable
“We will conduct monthly webinars and offline workshops” <- countable

What's amusing is that it's just so obvious. In places, it even drifts off into pure fantasy:

Irrespective of anything to do with leopards and spots, the text in the ANN is worryingly vague about important commitments. Personally, I would expect any new-leafer to take great pains to demonstrate their newly-claimed trustworthiness by being absolutely crystal-clear about exactly what investors will get in return for their money. Not the case here, perhaps old habits die hard.

Cheers

Graham

a scammer will be always a scammer. Period.

Let's state some facts here for those who do not know it.


BlackCoin wall street campaign: it was being managed by that guy, plus the BlackCoin cards.

During that time he took long time to return the money of the investors, some YES some accepted to let him keep the money and they approved it, some not.

Those (some not) are the point.

When you take a money from someone as an investment and you did not return it in time (cause of course you were busy riding the BC huge price pump wave during that period of time) then at least you should keep in your mind those who sent you their own money and you delayed returning it to them (cause they did not approve you to keep their money) shall have an interest rate of your BC profits, even if they did not ask you for this cause you know some investors would say better to have their money than have nothing. Actually it is a matter of decency to send the interest percentage in return of funding those who would have been earned profits but lost it due to an intended delay from that scammer side.


Now back to his so called coin.

ICO and IPO nowadays are the fastest ways to make money for devs., and with someone with a bad history like him it adds more salt to the wound. It raises a simple question about why did not he go for direct mining method rather than going for the ICO, IPO or the new so called crowd funding thing.



Plus few things:

- 57 years of mining? maybe it is a good way to make it looks like it's not a pump/dump coin, cause if it a 2 weeks of mining coin, it would raise the alarms, but getting out during 1 year (for example) of the 57 lol years will not be noticed for some easily.


- Block Reward: 1 Bytecent: another way to make it hard to mine coin. Of course to make it more expensive.

- T shirts for BTC contributors. kiddin me?


With that block reward, I found it funny when the one who is gonna hold the crowd funding is the same one talking about " fair distribution among miners who became bored with scam coins ", with all his known history here.



   
   

Maybe he can pay back the Blackcoin community that he scam out of BTC.

I absolutely agree. He has destroyed coins and scammed people out of BTC. Don't touch this thing at all.

He's getting out of crypto...

his tweets

""If you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten." #Bytecent is for the people tired of the scams & BS. $BYC"

"In less than 2 hours the revolution begins. I am not just launching a coin, I am launching a movement. Let's take crypto out of the dark. RT"

and then now after launch nobody cared, only 12 btcs volume that probably are from himself

I don't like this coin, yet after reading that, I find myself buying some.

Bytecent is for newbs he stated..... He wants to attract new investors........
Sure......he is smart enough to understand that the cryptocommunity doesn't forget what he did before 

50k price? lol
I see why its called bytecent

It will leave investors wallets 1byte sized with a couple of cents

It's obvious there's few here who miss having a nice juicy ANN to shit on, no innocent here, easy money.

99% of ICOs are scams and maybe Bytecent also. But have a read through the set-up and then decide.  Of couse it wouldn't be tbe first ICO with a beautiful plan existing just on paper but it is interesting ...

I wasn't much into alts when blackcoin counted for something. Looks like just another clone at this point with nothing special about it that got pumped and dumped and forgotten in the usual way.

That was ages ago ... get over it m8s.  I've forgiven myself my Juggalocoin adventure afterall.

u cant have even one of my hard earned pennies u scammer!

More idiotic blackcoin holders crawling out from their rocks.

What a stupid piece of shit coin that was. No features, no logo, not even an adorable meme. Doesn't even have anon. What moronic scamcoin doesn't have anon? It is a basic useless feature, afterall.

I challenge everyone and anyone to prove why blackcoin was justified to exist. I'll bet it can't be done. Just one of hundreds of meaningless clones that dirt dived.

I made 10000 % on Blackcoin, so I can't really complain about it.

https://twitter.com/CryptoCamel/status/529665992134516736

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ikcxfl.jpg

lol

EVERYONE EMAIL AND CONTACT BITTREX - THEY OBVIOUSLY AREN'T AWARE OF THIS ASSHOLES HISTORY

Check my post history, check my reputation, check my hero member status and check how I write about other people on this forum. Now listen to this: do NOT trust this guy with your money. If there is one piece of advice you listen to it's mine.

They know about it dude, they don't care though.

just say no to ico!

or dumb fucks could stop buying obvious scammy bullshit. either way works.  ;D

I have stopped buying from there. But Bittrex offers promises of reputation and credibility. That is false. They have none of neither. They are simply money-sucking ghouls posing as a legitimate business. I stopped trading there months ago for this very reason.

I was simply answering the question as to why Bittrex allows known criminals like Iconic Expert to sell their coins there.

People also know that being pathetic and childish (not you guys) is useless but people continue being that as well.  Hence, FUD wars, photo shops of IRC chats, rampant scamming, etc.  I mean it's gotten crazy.  

My subjective take on IE.  I don't personally know the guy and had a few run-ins with him, not always good but I see a different perspective and I wrote it on his Twitter yesterday.  Just so its clear, not the biggest fan here either but there is a slow death coming to altcoins and crypto.  We continue to let these new coins with anon DEVs (copy/paste) and no-face managers (new accounts) pop up and take our BTC, exception is BTCArchitect and ARCH and boy was he fudded.  We are in the final days and that means our beloved investments, outside of the TOP coins, will die eventually, BTC value bleeding daily.  6mths ago, I probably invested new coins every 2 wks, holding a 1/3 of old one's.  Now, a handful since August.  I continue seeing great members trying to stay active and be a part of something but it will be for nothing when this becomes a wasteland.

Now, we know ICOs mostly are scams (I totally agree, I was in CLD, Super, even BlocK, won't touch _Vior).  I won't touch another one ever.  BUT!  But, at least you know WHO IE is and its true, his ego is too big/pride too high and I don't think the 50 BTC minimum for ICO success (currently $16.5K take rate) is worth scamming a whole community to condemnation and having true problems.  It's chump change but 900+ BTC (for Blocknet), which I've vested in as well, now that's worthy of a hit & run.  Say what you will, you don't have to like him to want something different or make $.  I don't like my boss but my company cuts my check.  I don't like my wife's sister, I love the Yankees but hate Arod, love Adriana Lima but not when she smiles.  I secretly love certain reality shows, you think my fellas know about it LOL.  Get what I'm saying?  I get what you guys are saying but just think about this on a grand scale for a sec.  I mean, look at his WP, maybe broken promises and disguised to look pretty and informative but far better than some of today's offerings.  

I like/respect some of you guys a lot, seen your names since I started in crypto with Doge, Digi, BC, DRK.  Just put away the grudge and blind rage and try a thinking cap.  If I'm wrong, then I'm out for good.  For the record, I'm just a middle class hard working 9-5 guy, trying to make some extra cash for the family.....but bled out too much and have since cut down the investments before the wife files for separation.

Just my thought guys, don't have to agree but we can respectfully agree to disagree, no more fights and craziness......crypto is suffocating.

There is now a bytecent ICO announcement thread here on bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846023.0

If you ever want to piss off a mental retarded double faced coward, launch a snapshot and have a kitkat.

http://i59.tinypic.com/2rm1qv5.jpg

Are we talking about the IconicExpert / Christopher Bouzy who is a Scammer and a Thief (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=645899) ?

Speak for yourself. My investments and outlook for the whole of the scene are mostly positive.


Yeah I get what you're saying: you're a fucking sellout. You'd sell your own mother's organs for a $40, apparently.

You're also defending a criminal hack bitch who would be behind bars if he pulled the shit he did with US dollars instead of BlackCoin or Shitcoin 8.0.

So you knowingly work for an evil shithead out of your own volition. Nobody is forcing you to choose a life of evil. Nobody is forcing you to dig the graves of the concentration camp victims. You're doing it because its a job, and a job that pays money.

Winner winner chicken dinner! Yep that's the one alright sir!

It is obvious scam as the thread remains locked and is only opened shortly when the dev pushes the thread back up.

Damn Nutella that's hostile.  Who said anything about concentration camps?  Veering way off course, you need an e-hug. 

Here you go (-|-)

http://i57.tinypic.com/2i7u1wx.jpg


lmao what a bitch

I love this thread! People are so serious.  She doesn't like serious guys.  She wants to play ...

http://www.spwallpapers.com/var/albums/854x480/Cute%20Asian%20girls%20photo%20wallpapers%20854X480/Cute%20Asian%20girls%20photo%20wallpapers%20854X480%20(37).jpg

Nice, thanks

People are understandably wary of ICO and Crowd funded coins.

I propose from now on that any Dev wishing to launch such a coin should make their real name and contact details publicly available, If they have nothing to hide and don't intend ripping people off then there is no reason for them to stay anonymous.

Their coin may well fail, but if they've done the right thing in the first place then it drastically reduces the chance of it being a scam.

I'm sick and tired of peopling losing money here to greedy Dev's, personally I never have and never will invest in any ICO coin, but that's just because I preferred the old method of actually mining coins   :)

He paid Bittrex 3 btc to get his crap ICO coin listed, thats all they care about getting there btc and whatever they make in fees, if u raise enough commotion then they will do something (evidence: BLOCKNET buywall)

We all here posted some undeniable evidences about his scams.

But yet at his tweeter he wrote the haters by this have increased the value of his coin. lol wtf.

Seriously I'm not joking when I say he needs an immediate mentality check cause we are talking about a late stage of delusion - harry potter syndrome -.  



EDIT: I'm wondering about something else, based on that kid's history.

What if that scammer will make CPU miner available for public while he and his " inner circle " group will be using some sort of a hidden GPU miner to earn big chunks of bytecent only for their own?

@fapman1


lol you can keep these pics to your self to warm you at the lonely nights rather than keep spreading it here at this thread and at Never buy ico: ByteCent, EQX, Sys, Craig, Vior... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=845494.msg9439436#msg9439436l) thread as well whenever anyone is mentioning bytecent as a scam.

you do not spam other scam coins threads with your lousy trolling, maybe another desperate bytecent holder?


Get a life

Dude grow up, I'm not here to waste my time arguing empty minded topics neither with you nor with anyone else.

FUDding can't be considered so as long as there are evidences/threads/snapshots/etc.. available. You will surprise me if you even understand this sentence lol.

Anyway you are welcome to my ignore list where you, your master IE, his worshippers, other scammers, fudders and thieves belong.


Now you can back to your daily activities fapman1

At least trolling with unrelated photo should make you easy to report to the mods...
You are probably working with IE or getting your part of the scammed money.
You came with the "he's a changed man" (meaning, he already spent the money he scammed from blackcoin community 3 months ago and needs more  ;D ) but after that the only thing you have been able to post was unrelated photo.
You clearly didn't earn the money bytecent team gave you for trolling around.

on topic: as a gpu dev. I find the coin interesting, but knowing that the dev team already scammed people, I won't lose my time working on a gpu miner (because it is obvious that coin value will go down right after the ICO is over and additional premined coin has been dumped).
Well I don't care a lot if very naive lose money in this scam (well did you already went to a scam coin thread and try to explain, it is a scam... most of the people will just tell you to gtfo... so they deserve what will happen to them...  ;D), but clearly I don't want to have my time stolen by scammers...
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqibidmVfaw&feature=youtu.be

watch this interview with IconicExpert. It is all explained.

I fully agree. If you are a serious professional and is committed to the launch of a crowdfunded venture, you are obligated to disclose your public identity. IE seems to have history of consistently earning the distrust and some substantial proof of his fraudulent behavior. At the very least, it proves a bad PR handling.

Some people, underdogs that they are, have been working hard and honestly but did not ever get the attention they deserved due to pump and dumps overshadowing the crypto scene this year.

Those same people have been public since they started on the crypto scene. Full identity disclosure, licensed and registered legally with documents to prove it all.

But they were ignored because of the fact that their professional approach didn't 'guarantee' enormous profits like pump and dump anonymous scams.

With the scene changing, it would be a very sad statement if IE was trying to manipulate the trust of the people and their desire for an open and public project with a fully public developer in order to conduct another dump scam on crypto.

The real honest people of crypto have been around since the start of their career with everything out in public. Going 'honest' now (even now he refuses to show his face on the video) sounds like a marketing gimmick at the very least, more likely a move to try and take advantage of the people's desperation to find an 'honest' project. Also, why is the comment section disabled in that video?

The coin is closed source. The dev has some dubious history. He is not public at all. His 'expertise' is in question with all the coins in the past that failed and is now forgotten as pump and dump coins on twitter and elsewhere. For an 'honest' dev, he has cut off too many lines of communication where he is supposed to give answers. It's his job to manage the venture.

Last of all, he is promoting himself as 'honest' all of a sudden when it's very convenient to do so. Real professionals and honest people have been at it quietly for months and years now with their public profile out in full view.

Too many red flags from a 3rd party point of view.

http://s14.directupload.net/images/141110/g8ugdi2k.gif (http://www.directupload.net)

Lol, I think if he want fu... the people he would change nick, becouse he would collect more btc than on this ICO, look at it only 63 btc.

More then one way to go about doing it. It's all about sentiment manipulation. Make em doubt, break the doubt, trigger panic buys, dump on buys, betray expectations while each and every one of the buys is profiting him one way or another etc each and every time hooking people in to trust and buy from byc.

I thought that 50btc 'success condition' is ridiculous for a 1500 btc sized IPO. Would be really easy for some dev to just 'buy' his own ipo that much and call it a success (btc which he will get back) - and who could prove it wasn't him?

The low number bought during this ipo is not a proof of anything - only proof of a beginning of manipulation.

One very bad mistake though - calling something crowdfunding or ipo is a very very easy way to get the authorities on your ass if you don't know what you are doing. He might think he knows the ropes about security laws etc and can't be prosecuted, but forget that money and law are two different things. Especially when anyone who is really interested can completely destroy him one way or another if they wanted to, and he just gave them the ropes to hang him with.

Iconic Expert is Scammer

The wallet is also closed source, be careful.

more info about iconic coin here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=710215.0

Better to read this: THE BYTECENT DISASTER (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855217.new#new)

anyboyd bought into this scam LOL ?

He didn't even submit to POD, and looks like someone(s) mined a lot more than what he said could be mined per day/hour.

Tired of this stuff? Consider Nectarcoin:
http://cryptoasian.com/sweet-nectarcoin/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=812124.msg9090897#msg9090897

Maybe the paragraph in red will give you an idea about how to do this.

These statements (in red), which seemed -to me- completely outlandish when made, seems quite uncanny right now, unfortunately.

With closed source coin, everything is possible and does not look outlandish. Just saying.

something was definitely not right about that launch a few were able to mine while alot were not and no difficulty adjustment. ::)

another day in crypto

Scammer IE's coin seems dead :D

You guys think too much. If it's an anonymous ICO, it's a scam. That's all you need to know.

I don't see any problems: if people feel scammed they have anorher day or so get their money back on Bittrex. What's to keep talking about? Bittrex set a refund buywall on Bytecent for 48 hours from last night or something.  Don't know exactly: DYOR

So far so good...I like Iconic great job. And a Scam no way he is doing a lot of more work then the most Dev's. The starting point was 5ok And now 110k easy slowly and no hype. This coin can easy grow every week 1k.....

Thanks

He can control the price because he bought in his own IPO. There is absolutely no public interest in this shitcoin. This proof of Miner crap is a noob trick to force people to send their coins in their wallet while he can fuck around with his coins on bittrex.

Sure looks like it. Reputation as a dumping ground has expanded from Cryptsy --> Mintpal ---> Bittrex

What's left?

Created an announcement out of bitcointalk (probably mods gladly and providently banned the bytecent thread here) under the username IconicExpert. A person with a credibility below zero. Everyone knows who is who. Lol, why would you reveal your shameful identity if wanting to raise over 1.5K BTC on pure scammy marketing campaign?

IE is a bullshit and a dump lier!

And he's still around today still scamming. Its very sad.