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Title: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: cryptohunter on November 14, 2014, 02:17:11 PM
Come on let's be serious now, which coins really have a chance now? and why? be very specific in the details.

Corgi is dead i guess, but doge continues to thrive.

Some of the older alts seem to be hanging on just through nostalgia really.

The new techie coins??

Which really will provide something "must have" and individual that will see them shine from this cesspool of shit.

So many make a semi-convincing case based upon their tech.

Which devs teams are tried tested and have a goal that will set them apart from the rest.

Who have the best dev teams here that are active and get results.






Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: devphp on November 14, 2014, 02:23:04 PM
All cryptos are in bear market for the next 12 months, if you want to find a get rich quick crypto, you will fail. All of them will be either in decline or moving sideways till the end of 2015. Yes, Bitcoin too. Bear markets usually last long enough to shake out all the weak hands. 2 years is the minimum they last, it's been a bear market since beginning of 2014, another year to go like that, and all the weak hands will be shaken out.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: TaunSew on November 14, 2014, 04:22:00 PM
How often do the earliest adopters go into the red?  BTSx could hit $11 million and the earliest adopters would still have made a lot of money, probably.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: solid12345 on November 14, 2014, 04:45:24 PM
I still think if the head-in-the-sand Lakota tribal leaders would wake up and adopt Mazacoin it would take the world by storm.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: TaunSew on November 14, 2014, 04:48:41 PM
I still think if the head-in-the-sand Lakota tribal leaders would wake up and adopt Mazacoin it would take the world by storm.

Bagholder?   ::)


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: shanem on November 14, 2014, 04:51:03 PM
I can't find any at the moment.
Most altcoins are here for people to trade in and out to make money.
No one will hold any altcoin for long term unless they are bagholding.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: Yurizhai on November 14, 2014, 04:51:46 PM
Shameless plug for NuShares. Current market cap is less than 2 million, with the first dividend payment likely coming within 2 weeks ( if you own NSR at that time you will receive some). NuBits volume is #3 in all cryptocurrency right now, at over $1m. More exchanges are supporting NuBits & or NuShares every week, sales for NuBits are only going to increase, which means dividends will likely come faster. With a team and development as professional as Nu (see for yourself at NuBits.com, there's been several new client upgrades since it released less than two months ago) and such a small market cap, it has a ton of room to grow. Seems like a no brainer.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: solid12345 on November 14, 2014, 04:52:10 PM
I still think if the head-in-the-sand Lakota tribal leaders would wake up and adopt Mazacoin it would take the world by storm.

Bagholder?   ::)

I sold mine off along time ago but as cheap as it is it is worth buying a few million and holding for a year.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: First.Bitcoins on November 14, 2014, 05:23:42 PM
I would add AppleByte to the list. Below is a post from another thread celebrating our six month anniversary. The coin is in the top 100 (#86) on coinmarketcap.com and #17 on CoinGecko in terms of community size. We have a real user community (90% have never used a crypto before). The Devs have been public, known by their real names and could be reached directly from day one. We just posted a six month report on our progress in another thread:

---------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a copy of that post:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


AppleByte is six months old today!
From the beginning we have said we are building for the longterm, and we are pleased with our progress to date.


To be successful longterm, a coin needs to meet the needs of three separate groups:

1. Real users - in our case, the community of artists (actors, filmakers, musicians, visual artists, etc) & art lovers worldwide
2. Miners - essential to supporting the network
3. Investors/Traders - because they are the ones who make the market - without them, who will the users & merchants sell the coins to


Our success to date is reflected in our price and growing industry recognition


We are one of the very few coins that has risen consistently in price this year (with normal volatility) and there have been no pumps & dumps.  


Recent industry recognition:

A nice twitter acknowledgement from a friend in NYC

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5602/15359168710_7169502490_o.png

GoCoin Chairman & Co-founder, Brock Pierce twitter acknowledgement

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3946/14944057914_baeb169cf5_o.png



Update on longterm plan:

Real users

 - our social media reach is now over 13,000 - 80% artists & art lovers, 20% crypto fans
 - they can mine, using the CPU on their laptops, and receive coins everyday, due to the bonus we pay CPU & GPU miners in the official pool
 - we promote AppleByte artists using our social media & forum, helping to build their careers
 - artist awards and scholarships given by the AppleByte Foundation
 - we provide places to spend AppleBytes (prepaid AppleByte VISA card, AMC Movie gift cards, Starbucks gift cards, restaurant gift cards, etc (subsidized by the AppleByte Foundation)

 - in current development: A twitter tipping app & and a site to sell music for AppleBytes

Miners
 - to support the broadest spectrum of miners, we limit the maximum hash per user on the official pool to 25mhs, keeping it profitable for GPU users, while accepting some ASICS
 - we held back the release of the linux source, to keep out the large multipools

Investors/Traders
 - listed on Poloniex on launch day
 - added Bittrex, 10/31/14
 - no pump & dump (Devs were paid in Bitcoin) not ABY



The reality of longterm altcoin success is that all the members of Bitcointalk combined are not enough people to build a longterm user community. The real users are outside Bitcointalk. Without real users, altcoins are nothing but pump & dumps. Think about it, how many "technological breakthrough" coins have come and gone this year?

Longterm success comes from outside. For example, no matter what your opinion of Doge, they proved the users are elsewhere, and built a real community outside these forums. I applaud them for that. And with the GoCoin/Bitpay/Paypal deal, they are here to stay.

Thanks to all of you who supported AppleByte, and helped us build the foundation of success that we have today.
If you have not joined us, I invite you to do your own diligence and join us if you believe we are on the right track.

JM Cabaniss
AppleByte Founder
(You can reach me direct at: jmc<at>applebyte.me. My name & the names of our lead technical developers have been public from prelaunch


More AppleByte Details:
Announce Thread:  Announce Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503131.0)
Website: AppleByte.me (http://AppleByte.me)
Facebook: AppleByteMe FB Page (https://www.facebook.com/applebyteme)
Twitter: AppleByteMe Twitter (https://twitter.com/AppleByteMe)


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: gentlemand on November 14, 2014, 05:46:37 PM
I've dug what Node has pulled off so far.

The communication from the devs has been diabolical at times but they've been slow and steady and have always delivered eventually. That's the polar opposite of how most system creators have conducted themselves.

Coin transfers are super fast and they have some unique plans for fiat integration. The wallet interface feels like something designed for real people rather than tech experts. The NXT interface is amazing but would scare the shit out of a regular person.

It's tiny right now and time will tell where it goes, but I think it's a very promising slow burn and it'll stand somewhere outside the usual alt cesspit.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: gentlemand on November 14, 2014, 05:53:00 PM
I've dug what Node has pulled off so far.

The communication from the devs has been diabolical at times but they've been slow and steady and have always delivered eventually. That's the polar opposite of how most system creators have conducted themselves.

Coin transfers are super fast and they have some unique plans for fiat integration. The wallet interface feels like something designed for real people rather than tech experts. The NXT interface is amazing but would scare the shit out of a regular person.

It's tiny right now and time will tell where it goes, but I think it's a very promising slow burn.

I think they will fail just like ethereum

Anything's possible, but it's here right now, it's working and it doesn't take a PhD to comprehend or use it.

I've fiddled with NXT, NEM and Node.

They're all very impressive but if I was to use one as an actual payment system type thing, right now Node would be the one for me. Whether that becomes a day to day reality is yet to be known.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: PhattyBanks on November 14, 2014, 06:20:22 PM
If I could pick a coin thats out today that might be worth $50 in the future I would pick Dark coin. Just because its been added to those underground drug market sites. One of those sites that takes Dark is now Silk road 3. So all those n00bs that found out about the Darknet from the news last week might say "hmm I better buy some of that dark coin for an extra layer of security".

When the first Silk Road was busted the escrow wallet had 30,000 BTC, thats only a weeks worth of sales, and that was a year ago. More and more people are finding out there's an Amazon for illegal goods and they are signing up. If DRK can cut into 5%-10% of that or more it could go to da moon.

Its the only coin other than BTC that I hold and put away.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: cryptohunter on November 14, 2014, 08:52:52 PM
what about maidsafe?  worth grabbing a bit up? or wait and see?

I bought some block but obviously regretting this now. Again waiting to see with that but less confident than i was before.

Tile?

Nubits as somebody mentioned?

So many new alts with ambition.

Have been told by a few persons on here that i do know can code that the bbr dev is quite a capable guy. Although not much market for that coin right now.

BC seem to have some things in the pipe and now perhaps some funding from the bitbay guys. Dev seems pretty smart both rat and david. David i guess i not really tied to BC only by investment in BC so again not certain on BC.

Bitbay? who knows ?? unknown really right now, just a plan of action. Sounds convincing but so did cloak.

Dark ? perhaps?

XC - again i have a few k of those.... have high hopes still but not quite as certain as i was before.



 



Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: chicken65 on November 14, 2014, 09:21:21 PM
WTF coin
Yup thats my coin of the month  8)


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: chicken65 on November 14, 2014, 09:22:44 PM
what about maidsafe?  worth grabbing a bit up? or wait and see?

I bought some block but obviously regretting this now. Again waiting to see with that but less confident than i was before.

Tile?

Nubits as somebody mentioned?

So many new alts with ambition.

Have been told by a few persons on here that i do know can code that the bbr dev is quite a capable guy. Although not much market for that coin right now.

BC seem to have some things in the pipe and now perhaps some funding from the bitbay guys. Dev seems pretty smart both rat and david. David i guess i not really tied to BC only by investment in BC so again not certain on BC.

Bitbay? who knows ?? unknown really right now, just a plan of action. Sounds convincing but so did cloak.

Dark ? perhaps?

XC - again i have a few k of those.... have high hopes still but not quite as certain as i was before.



 



Agreed. Bitbay has very good potential


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: ReserviorHunt on November 14, 2014, 09:54:48 PM
Noblecoin and NOXT

A public developer Jason Curby (Rofo in btc talk) and his projects are good candidates. He is a professional - been public since january 2014, linkedin and all his profiles open for public etc and has been quietly working hard on maintaining his projects Noblecoin and NOXT:



Noblecoin ANN:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402667.0



NobleNXT (NOXT) Pre-ANN:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=841741.0;all


Very professional approach, devoted and steady progress all around. People like him earn the attention and cooperation of professional finances outside of BTC Talk and current community.

Good potential to say the least.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: thelonecrouton on November 15, 2014, 12:58:58 AM
If I could pick a coin thats out today that might be worth $50 in the future I would pick Dark coin. Just because its been added to those underground drug market sites. One of those sites that takes Dark is now Silk road 3. So all those n00bs that found out about the Darknet from the news last week might say "hmm I better buy some of that dark coin for an extra layer of security".

When the first Silk Road was busted the escrow wallet had 30,000 BTC, thats only a weeks worth of sales, and that was a year ago. More and more people are finding out there's an Amazon for illegal goods and they are signing up. If DRK can cut into 5%-10% of that or more it could go to da moon.

Its the only coin other than BTC that I hold and put away.

My sig gives away my position... but I hold that position in part for the above reasons. (The other part is the open and transparent nature of Darkcoin's development, and the obvious talent of the dev, who also, amazingly, is a real person, not just some internet twerp with a silly username.)

Sooner or later the BTC zealots are going to get the message that BTC and whichever crappy mixing-service-that-hasn't-run-off-with-the-money-yet this week just doesn't cut it for dark markets. De-pseuodnonymising BTC addresses is getting easier all the time.

There's a place in the world for the transparency of Bitcoin, and a place for the opacity of Darkcoin. Public and Private. And built on the same API.

I don't see a lot of use for anything else.



Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: toknormal on November 15, 2014, 10:19:17 AM

The originals always prevail in their sector as long as the developers don't screw up.

Darkcoin has steered an almost perfect course over its 11 month existence. It is nearly 5 times ahead of its nearest competitor in terms of market cap despite having gone through a "rights of passage" phase in the markets and consolidated its price.

The anonymity approach it has now is awesome due to multiple redundancy and pre-emptive mixing introduced in the last few months. It has stuck rigidly to its strengths and not tried to be something it isn't.

And all this while retaining commercial compatibility with the Bitcoin commercial infrastructure.

Darkcoin is a home run IMO if it "stays the course" which there's every indication it will.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: Netnox on November 15, 2014, 10:46:43 AM
I'm personally pretty impressed by Gems, i think they have a pretty solid concept to succeed with a dev team who actually attends meeting and conferences which has been a while we have seen that since Litecoins Charlie Lee. What is important is that they are pretty well received by Bitcoin aswell.

http://fat.gfycat.com/LeafyTautAustraliancurlew.gif (https://vimeo.com/106725097)
click on the GIF to see the video!

- Interview at salon talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdNc8RSyft0
- Interview letstalkbitcoin http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-161-the-mine-and-the-pick
- There will be a Epicenter Bitcoin podcast recording on November 23.
- They attended insidebitcoins Tel-Aviv: http://www.coindesk.com/gems-bitcoin-app-lets-users-earn-money-social-messaging/
- They will be attending insidebitcoins Paris 20-21 November, 2014 (http://insidebitcoins.fr/en/)

Also what i like is that they will store the money in multi-sig wallets with BitGo, and Adam from Counterparty releasing the funds in a milestone based requirement tier. So they get paid per development.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: juicyjuice87 on November 15, 2014, 10:50:35 AM
Take just one look at the nxt fourm and tell me that it's not going off over there


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: TinEye on November 15, 2014, 11:01:46 AM
I've dug what Node has pulled off so far.

The communication from the devs has been diabolical at times but they've been slow and steady and have always delivered eventually. That's the polar opposite of how most system creators have conducted themselves.

Coin transfers are super fast and they have some unique plans for fiat integration. The wallet interface feels like something designed for real people rather than tech experts. The NXT interface is amazing but would scare the shit out of a regular person.

It's tiny right now and time will tell where it goes, but I think it's a very promising slow burn.

I think they will fail just like ethereum

NODE is there and works right now, Ethereum does not. Having said that I doubt its going to amount big, just remain as a niche product. Of course, if properly done that still would make a good marketcap.

I guess you can say Ethereum works now too, its just named Counterparty ;D


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: TinEye on November 15, 2014, 11:10:31 AM
what about maidsafe?  worth grabbing a bit up? or wait and see?

I think its a good investment, although I would wait for a price decrease. Its one of the few projects showing any real work being done.

Bitshares and NXT right now are at their lowest prices in recent past. NXT has been on a steady decline so I am not that bullish. Bitshares went down due to the internal manipulations so has a higher short term upside.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: toknormal on November 15, 2014, 11:59:01 AM
Bitshares went down due to the internal manipulations so has a higher short term upside.

Could you elaborate on "internal manipulations" ?

I also think Bitshares is a great buy. In fact I just bought some. I think the concept of colateralised assets is awsome. It's the first true cryptocurrency solution I've ever seen that squarely addresses the volatility problem for retailers. It's an immensly elegant approach I think while at the same time giving crypto-world "risk takers" looking for big gains exactly what they want. I just think it's genius.

I'm also bullish on NXT. It is so unique and so prolific now I doubt it's going to do anything other than consolidate its hold on the digital asset world. There will be others but it is so organic that it will grow for a very long time into the future. It might take a while for that to reflect in the price though because there are a lot of big holders who use low prices as a high liquidity cashout opportunity. All the same, it too turned into an awsome product.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: toknormal on November 15, 2014, 12:01:15 PM
Take just one look at the nxt fourm and tell me that it's not going off over there

What do you mean by "going off" ? "Going off" as in milk turning sour ? Or going off as in "taking off" ?


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: 3x2 on November 15, 2014, 12:23:41 PM
NXT,NEM,NODE and XMR with real devs and good innovation.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: dararel on November 15, 2014, 03:42:40 PM
Weed coin the best coin to people who want see profit in short term becous this market can use this coin today without regulation!



WEED Coins!!!!  Best coins to make profit in short term 1-3 mounth next pump and now very cheap 
               sat last price   sat                                                                          invest
 Hempcoin-80            last pick 600 very good Devs  nwe update soon     250mil total    1000-2000$

 Dope      -50              300       420mil total  150-300$
 
 Ganja      220            2000      2.2mil total  this coin now sleep)) invest not to much  50-100$

 Maryjane  250            7500     15mil    very good coin but very young and Devs team no work hard becouse have real weedbisness.   1000-2000$
CannaCoin 5000           20000    12mil   old weed coin   300-500$
 
Cannabis   2000           14500    125mil   300-500$   good potential Devs good rush this coin to the moon

Potcoin     600             3000      420mil    150-300$


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: EvilDave on November 15, 2014, 04:21:59 PM
Take just one look at the nxt fourm and tell me that it's not going off over there

Yeah, NXT is looking so damn good for the long term. The eco-system is growing like crazy, core features are solid, more devs, several older projects coming on-line properly.
Oh, yeah, and NXT in space.....


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: reRaise on November 15, 2014, 06:37:47 PM
I'm personally pretty impressed by Gems, i think they have a pretty solid concept to succeed with a dev team who actually attends meeting and conferences which has been a while we have seen that since Litecoins Charlie Lee. What is important is that they are pretty well received by Bitcoin aswell.

http://fat.gfycat.com/LeafyTautAustraliancurlew.gif (https://vimeo.com/106725097)
click on the GIF to see the video!

- Interview at salon talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdNc8RSyft0
- Interview letstalkbitcoin http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-161-the-mine-and-the-pick
- There will be a Epicenter Bitcoin podcast recording on November 23.
- They attended insidebitcoins Tel-Aviv: http://www.coindesk.com/gems-bitcoin-app-lets-users-earn-money-social-messaging/
- They will be attending insidebitcoins Paris 20-21 November, 2014 (http://insidebitcoins.fr/en/)

Also what i like is that they will store the money in multi-sig wallets with BitGo, and Adam from Counterparty releasing the funds in a milestone based requirement tier. So they get paid per development.

I like this


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: splawik21 on November 15, 2014, 07:27:44 PM
DARKCOIN for sure.
It is the unique competitor of BTC IMO
+1 thelonecrouton +2 Toknormal


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: VampiricElder on November 15, 2014, 09:43:11 PM
Bitbay


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: louie6925 on November 15, 2014, 10:07:32 PM
Aerocoin for me! Always invest in the dev not the coin, Majika is hard working and passionate, AeroMe on its way which will impact the whole of crypto! growing community which is vibrant and active and have the best community forum at www.aerotalk.net where you can find out everything in one place! Too much to list here!

On top of that we have some exciting projects going on behind the scenes which is going to force aero forwards and also bring more people into crypto! It's not just talk it's really happening! I know cos I'm involved!! ;D



Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: notlogic on November 16, 2014, 12:39:01 AM
NXT,NEM,NODE and XMR with real devs and good innovation.

Fully agree on XMR. Extremely secure/anonymous protocol, CPU mining, nice price, good volume, a major exchange has 15 XMR markets... I could go on and on.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: fivebells on November 16, 2014, 02:14:30 AM
BURST.  Completely new algorithm for securing the blockchain, based on proof of storage capacity rather than proof of computation.  Much more efficient than existing cryptocurrencies, lower marginal cost for mining, therefore lower transaction costs.  Forked from and tracking NXT, so it's got all of NXT's sophisticated transactions, as well as a few besides.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: bobster on November 16, 2014, 03:03:17 AM
Perhaps look at some of the metrics at CoinGecko (http://www.coingecko.com) and make an evaluation of coins that have potential?


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: brekyrself on November 16, 2014, 04:07:07 AM
Perhaps look at some of the metrics at CoinGecko (http://www.coingecko.com) and make an evaluation of coins that have potential?

For a quick glance this is OK however people really need to visit individual forums and gather conclusions themselves.  Bitcoin has a huge first mover advantage thus currency only coins such as Doge, litecoin, XMR, etc.. will have on difficult time in the longer term.  Not impossible, just a high barrier of entry.

Research all the "2.0" tech and throw some investment that direction along with BTC.  BitShares, Counterparty, Nxt, Peercoin, etc...  Take a look at THEIR forums, github repositories, and the wallets themselves to form a conclusion.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: sukiho on November 16, 2014, 04:14:12 AM
Im thinking darkcoin, its saves on the tumbling fees on the dark markets so it could become widely used on them


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: JaredStein on November 16, 2014, 04:40:15 AM
If you have not heard about Aero I think that you should go and check it out, with the community it has and the growth of it everyday i think that it could become a great coin. The owner is giving free Aero just for posting on their AeroTalk forum site, all you gotta do is sign up and make some posts. The coin is on Bitrex and Crypsy, I think this coin is very undervalued. Please just go and check out the community and the coin.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: btcxyzzz on November 16, 2014, 06:46:26 AM
All I know is that NeosCoin (http://www.neoscoin.com) is so cheap right now, with great potential because there's not even decent subReddit and marketing is still not enforced. They have the best wallet you saw, they have anonymous payments written from scratch.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: minerboy on November 16, 2014, 06:50:56 AM
Opal has a really strong foundation and Devs that have a great direction. Check out o-pool.com. It is holding value and on the rise consistently.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: DiCE1904 on November 16, 2014, 06:52:15 AM
I would say darkcoin, that dev is on point, always improving. With it being adopted to two certain marketplaces as well I think it has great potential.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: elitemobb on November 16, 2014, 06:54:28 AM
Opal has a really strong foundation and Devs that have a great direction. Check out o-pool.com. It is holding value and on the rise consistently.
I have to agree with you on this. Opalcoin has a solid foundation with a very ambitious development group. It has a promising roadmap and holding strong on the markets. I will venture to bet its one of the shining stars throughout the rest of 2014 and one of the top alts into 2015.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: RCan06 on November 16, 2014, 07:30:21 AM
As mentioned above OPAL coin is a hidden gem right now. Dev have been getting stuff done, and are constantly interacting with the community for feedback and improvements. Their new digital market has also begun with items being listed, and they are working on anon file transfers. 15mill coins, and low market cap right now.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: ChrisLandin on November 16, 2014, 08:15:03 AM
Right now for me it has to be Aero ( Aerocoin )

Its been pumped three times and survived the P&D cycle.

The price is low to still make it a very attractive investment.

We have an active & talented dev with a 5+ POD

Our own forum www.aerotalk.net and a small but growing community on slack

Oh and did I mention AeroMe will be coming shortly.

All in all a coin with huge potential for growth over the next 6 months :)


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: cryptohunter on November 16, 2014, 11:53:17 AM
You see this is the problem. Everyone can make a semi convincing case for their coins, because many now do have a real dev that is working away to achieve something real for their coin.

Why don't we try to compare similar coins trying to achieve the same thing or very similar things to see which one really would be best to invest in.


for example.

monero  vs bbr

dark vs xc

block vs supernet

maidsafe vs videoshare

etc

there seems a mad race on still for anon, social media, video and media sharing,



I guess we can only compare them on their proven tech at this point, so we'd need some smart tech guys to help us make a good comparison.

I'm now taking a look at opal and aero based upon some praise in this thread.

What about tile coin? anyone strong bull on that one?


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: Netnox on November 16, 2014, 01:26:32 PM
You see this is the problem. Everyone can make a semi convincing case for their coins, because many now do have a real dev that is working away to achieve something real for their coin.

Why don't we try to compare similar coins trying to achieve the same thing or very similar things to see which one really would be best to invest in.


for example.

monero  vs bbr

dark vs xc

block vs supernet

maidsafe vs videoshare

etc

there seems a mad race on still for anon, social media, video and media sharing,



I guess we can only compare them on their proven tech at this point, so we'd need some smart tech guys to help us make a good comparison.

I'm now taking a look at opal and aero based upon some praise in this thread.

What about tile coin? anyone strong bull on that one?


Did you checkout Gems? What do you think about it? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.0

I've been a lurker for a dev team that goes public, gives interviews, attends conventions to promote their concept. This shows they are pretty confidence about it which makes it interesting to follow.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: hamiltino on November 16, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
what about maidsafe?



Looks like we have a winner!

https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1380222758/582337.gif


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: CryptoClub on November 16, 2014, 11:10:39 PM
1 Darkcoin, open source, maintains high marketcap, lots of fans and can port in anything else that makes some innovative tech leaps. Masternodes are hard to just clone and that gives it a very strong network. Seeing it slowly move from speculative into actual use.

2 Counterparty XCP - First decentralized exchange, ported Ethereum, uses the Bitcoin blockchain. / Viacoin XCH as a potential lower marketcap competitor, also based on Counterparty, faster, they have Peter Todd, Tree Chains coming, Colored Coins, obviously could port ethereum

3 NXT - They have a lot of assets, jl777, SuperNET with BLOCKNET/Horizon as lower marketcap competitors, not on anyone's radar now, but I do know they are working on some interesting tech unlike SuperNET.

4 Bitshares - Very innovative and unique, nothing else quite like it, innovative clones about to start appearing. (RPCD)

5 Bitbay - Great developer, but totally unknown as much is based on mysterious people backing it, if they are legit with major connections, perhaps Bitbay could do well.










Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: cloudboy on November 16, 2014, 11:24:40 PM
BitcoinDark.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: stealth923 on November 17, 2014, 12:11:06 AM
Darkcoin - dev & community is one of the strongest. Economic model is sound with masternodes providing a store of value, service to the network and also incentive for return unlike BTC nodes.

Technology is original and still the best. Open Source allowing it to always be improved, by people wanting to make it stronger rather than destroy.

Mainstream media coverage on FOX, Bloomberg and accepted on Bitfinex and now by a few DarkNet markets. Its following the path of BTC years ago.

Upcoming features such as instant transactions and a great and solid roadmap ahead.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: bobster on November 17, 2014, 07:15:37 AM
You see this is the problem. Everyone can make a semi convincing case for their coins, because many now do have a real dev that is working away to achieve something real for their coin.

Why don't we try to compare similar coins trying to achieve the same thing or very similar things to see which one really would be best to invest in.


for example.

monero  vs bbr

dark vs xc

block vs supernet

maidsafe vs videoshare

etc

there seems a mad race on still for anon, social media, video and media sharing,



I guess we can only compare them on their proven tech at this point, so we'd need some smart tech guys to help us make a good comparison.

I'm now taking a look at opal and aero based upon some praise in this thread.

What about tile coin? anyone strong bull on that one?


Hi cryptohunter, your proposition to compare and contrast coins definitely makes a lot of sense. We at CoinGecko (https://www.coingecko.com) still does not have such a feature but you may look at the various stats that we have on our site and make a manual comparison. For example:
Monero (https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/monero) vs Boolberry (https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/boolberry)
Darkcoin (https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/darkcoin) vs Xcurrency (https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/xc)
Maidsafe (https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/maidsafecoin) vs Storjcoin X (https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/storjcoinx)


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: skip60 on November 17, 2014, 07:58:49 AM
i will say "ShadowCash"

it is very promising coin...they are about to release the ZKsnarks wallet...it is just matter of time

private test has been completed and public test for ZKsnarks has started...!!!

The zk + ring signatures implementation is a fix to any inherit problems. A real (not vaporware), working, ZK implementation is the real advancement here.

i am sure dev team will do an announcement and they will release the whitepaper

also review of the code will follow as far as i know

join irc, an get the latest info by urself


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: StealthCoin1 on November 17, 2014, 08:09:48 AM
stealthcoin!
people want to steal and destroy stealth but the name is getting bigger and louder!


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: LongAndShort on November 17, 2014, 08:15:51 AM
stealthcoin!
people want to steal and destroy stealth but the name is getting bigger and louder!

What features does it have that other coins don't have? Btw the op asked you to be specific in details hence my question to you.



Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: StealthCoin1 on November 17, 2014, 08:28:30 AM
there is no reason for me to engage in conversation with you, i don't want to spends endless hours talking nonsense shit
just know a coin adoption is the success of it, stealthcoin module already available at litepaid.com soon availabe at coinpayments.net
stealthcoin already accepted at onenetwork.net soon an apparel store dedicated to stealthcoin and stealthcoin payment, other hype scam coin dream about this  ;D buy sell and disappear in shadow but there is no payment module, no store in sight or roadmap and no adoption. lol, sound more like a scam coin for trading by the whales then disappear!  ;D
stealthcoin is long term!


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: LongAndShort on November 17, 2014, 08:40:23 AM
there is no reason for me to engage in conversation with you, i don't want to spends endless hours talking nonsense shit
just know a coin adoption is the success of it, stealthcoin module already available at litepaid.com soon availabe at coinpayments.net
stealthcoin already accepted at onenetwork.net soon an apparel store dedicated to stealthcoin and stealthcoin payment, other hype scam coin dream about this  ;D buy sell and disappear in shadow but there is no payment module, no store in sight or roadmap and no adoption. lol, sound more like a scam coin for trading by the whales then disappear!  ;D
stealthcoin is long term!

You can be on all the sites you like that just means your value can plumet like it did last month when people found out its useless, misleading marketing and vaporware driven by a community of fraudsters and idiots. No one wants that when investing or buying it to use! Stealthcoin dropped 90% in value last month because its all smoke and mirrors with no actual features or innovation..

Thats more like a scam then anything else i've seen lately. So the op kinda said be specific but all you have done is name drop. So i just assume stealthcoin is still vaporware with one feature, sms relay. BTW stealthcoins op is still misleading, it says "stealthsend is the worlds first plausible deniability implementation"!!! its not even built yet and i do believe zerovert beat you to that punch.. So, sorry but stealthcoin is a scam community who really don't have a clue what they are talking about.
Unless you can be specific like the op asked i think you are doing more damage for the majority of your deluded community.

Honestly i feel sorry for the ones in stealthcoin who are being modest, but the rest of you are peddling vaporware and haven't contributed a thing to this industry nor do you understand what the tech can or cant achieve or how relevant it even is or isnt!.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: StealthCoin1 on November 17, 2014, 08:47:20 AM
shadow, "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow".
there is no store or how he's going to buy or sell with shadow. nothing on roadmap of how he's going to achieve this but hype about this nonsense crap zk which don't exist and you have the nerve to accused other coin being vaporware.lol  ;D


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: LongAndShort on November 17, 2014, 09:47:51 AM
ok i got this, sorry op for not stating my own specific details here they come


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: LongAndShort on November 17, 2014, 09:48:01 AM
shadow, "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow".
there is no store or how he's going to buy or sell with shadow. nothing on roadmap of how he's going to achieve this but hype about this nonsense crap zk which don't exist and you have the nerve to accused other coin being vaporware.lol  ;D

I love it how you scrubs at stealthcoin walk right into this trap every time and allow people to make a comparison to your vaporware project.

The thing you don't seem to understand is this is tech and the clear difference here is that Shadow has built its core foundation within 4 months. It has just released its testing phase for a completely efficient 100% anonymous transactions
(ZK Zero Knowledge) without the mixing gimik. It is a straight p2p zero knowledge transaction that is highly secure unlike some attempted implementations lately (using zerocoin).

It is complimented by a whole range of mobile wallets for android and even iOS (reminder that bitcoin does not even have an iOS wallet yet!) that are optimized for low battery use. It is still, i believe the only project with a pos lite wallet (something blackcoin and peercoin still do not have). It is the only complete package that has a html5 interface with a sdk being made for app devs to build and monetise the network with a built in encrypted chat that you can even send (currently) weblinks, images and text through (mobile and desktop also including animated gif)

Secure communication goes hand in hand with secure, anonymous Shadow banking!

So lets sum it up shall we


stealthcoin features/assets 1%. Premine, pumped and dumped by bobsurplus (who apparently has left)
Core dev: Hondo, a computer scientist not a cryptographer.

1: sms relay
2: stealthtext (seperate app download not part of the wallet)
2: stealthsend (not researched or built yet)


Shadow features/assets. No premine no pump and dump crew.
Core devs: Rynomster, technovert,  - communications specialists, cryptographer.
Contributor dev: ludx (building html5 sdk for app devs)
Frontend devs: crz-,  ffmad
1: Range of mobile staking wallets android iOS and soon ubuntu touch. "ShadowGo"
2: Range of pos litewallets "ShadowLite"
3: unique open source implementation of duel key stealth addresses (mainnet) ShadowSend v1 (used by almost all anoncoins to date including stealthcoin, taken from Shadow)
4: Efficient 100% anonymous transactions (in public testnet beta testing phase) "ShadowSend v2"
5: Html5 ui ( with a sdk currently in development) "ShadowBrowser"
6: Secure skype, whatsapp replacement. File, voice and video support (researched but not built yet) ShadowChat v2

I don't need to say anymore really the facts, again, speak for themselves.
Smart money can make up their own minds and invest/support/use what they think is best. Dumb money will waste money/time/effort on premined vaporware projects doomed to fail!


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: StealthCoin1 on November 17, 2014, 09:49:52 AM
shadow, "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow".
there is no store or how he's going to buy or sell with shadow. nothing on roadmap of how he's going to achieve this but hype about this nonsense crap zk which don't exist and you have the nerve to accused other coin being vaporware.lol  ;D

I love it how you scrubs at stealthcoin walk right into this trap every time and allow people to make a comparison to your vaporware project.

The thing you don't seem to understand is this is tech and the clear difference here is that Shadow has built its core foundation within 4 months. It has just released its testing phase for a completely efficient 100% anonymous transactions
(ZK Zero Knowledge) without the mixing gimik. It is a straight p2p zero knowledge transaction that is highly secure unlike some attempted implementations lately (using zerocoin).

It is complimented by a whole range of mobile wallets for android and even iOS (reminder that bitcoin does not even have an iOS wallet yet!) that are optimized for low battery use. It is still, i believe the only project with a pos lite wallet (something blackcoin and peercoin still do not have). It is the only complete package that has a html5 interface with a sdk being made for app devs to build and monetise the network with a built in encrypted chat that you can even send (currently) weblinks, images and text through (mobile and desktop also including animated gif)

Secure communication goes hand in hand with secure, anonymous Shadow banking!

So lets sum it up shall we


stealthcoin features/assets 1%. Premine, pumped and dumped by bobsurplus (who apparently has left)
Core dev: Hondo, a computer scientist not a cryptographer.

1: sms relay
2: stealthtext (seperate app download not part of the wallet)
2: stealthsend (not researched or built yet)


Shadow features/assets. No premine no pump and dump crew.
Core devs: Rynomster, technovert,  - communications specialists, cryptographer.
Contributor dev: ludx (building html5 sdk for app devs)
Frontend devs: crz-,  ffmad
1: Range of mobile staking wallets android iOS and soon ubuntu touch. "ShadowGo"
2: Range of pos litewallets "ShadowLite"
3: unique open source implementation of duel key stealth addresses (mainnet) ShadowSend v1 (used by almost all anoncoins to date including stealthcoin, taken from Shadow)
4: Efficient 100% anonymous transactions (in public testnet beta testing phase) "ShadowSend v2"
5: Html5 ui ( with a sdk currently in development) "ShadowBrowser"
6: Secure skype, whatsapp replacement. File, voice and video support (researched but not built yet) ShadowChat v2

I don't need to say anymore really the facts, again, speak for themselves.
Smart money can make up their own minds and invest/support/use what they think is best. Dumb money will waste money/time/effort on premined vaporware projects doomed to fail!

shadow, "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow".
all and all there is no store or how he's going to buy or sell with shadow. no info provide on roadmap of when or how this will be done.
right now is just all hype about this zerocoin zk and when it is out, if ryno capable of doing this, then we all will see the finishing dumps by the few whales. all we hear/heard about shadowcoin/shadowcash is this zerocoin zk with nothing to brag about but hype for the big dump, your coin and community offer nothing to the crypto world but wanting to destroy other coins for your own good by cheap plug your scam coin with other coins wave. again, your coin is a scam; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=847952.0


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: Schild_ on November 17, 2014, 10:00:58 AM
shadow, "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow".
there is no store or how he's going to buy or sell with shadow. nothing on roadmap of how he's going to achieve this but hype about this nonsense crap zk which don't exist and you have the nerve to accused other coin being vaporware.lol  ;D

I love it how you scrubs at stealthcoin walk right into this trap every time and allow people to make a comparison to your vaporware project.

The thing you don't seem to understand is this is tech and the clear difference here is that Shadow has built its core foundation within 4 months. It has just released its testing phase for a completely efficient 100% anonymous transactions
(ZK Zero Knowledge) without the mixing gimik. It is a straight p2p zero knowledge transaction that is highly secure unlike some attempted implementations lately (using zerocoin).

It is complimented by a whole range of mobile wallets for android and even iOS (reminder that bitcoin does not even have an iOS wallet yet!) that are optimized for low battery use. It is still, i believe the only project with a pos lite wallet (something blackcoin and peercoin still do not have). It is the only complete package that has a html5 interface with a sdk being made for app devs to build and monetise the network with a built in encrypted chat that you can even send (currently) weblinks, images and text through (mobile and desktop also including animated gif)

Secure communication goes hand in hand with secure, anonymous Shadow banking!

So lets sum it up shall we


stealthcoin features/assets 1%. Premine, pumped and dumped by bobsurplus (who apparently has left)
Core dev: Hondo, a computer scientist not a cryptographer.

1: sms relay
2: stealthtext (seperate app download not part of the wallet)
2: stealthsend (not researched or built yet)


Shadow features/assets. No premine no pump and dump crew.
Core devs: Rynomster, technovert,  - communications specialists, cryptographer.
Contributor dev: ludx (building html5 sdk for app devs)
Frontend devs: crz-,  ffmad
1: Range of mobile staking wallets android iOS and soon ubuntu touch. "ShadowGo"
2: Range of pos litewallets "ShadowLite"
3: unique open source implementation of duel key stealth addresses (mainnet) ShadowSend v1 (used by almost all anoncoins to date including stealthcoin, taken from Shadow)
4: Efficient 100% anonymous transactions (in public testnet beta testing phase) "ShadowSend v2"
5: Html5 ui ( with a sdk currently in development) "ShadowBrowser"
6: Secure skype, whatsapp replacement. File, voice and video support (researched but not built yet) ShadowChat v2

I don't need to say anymore really the facts, again, speak for themselves.
Smart money can make up their own minds and invest/support/use what they think is best. Dumb money will waste money/time/effort on premined vaporware projects doomed to fail!

shadow, "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow".
all and all there is no store or how he's going to buy or sell with shadow. no info provide on roadmap of when or how this will be done.
right now is just all hype about this zerocoin zk and when it is out, if ryno capable of doing this, then we all will see the finishing dumps by the few whales. all we hear/heard about shadowcoin/shadowcash is this zerocoin zk with nothing to brag about but hype for the big dump, your coin and community offer nothing to the crypto world but wanting to destroy other coins for your own good by cheap plug your scam coin with other coins wave. again, your coin is a scam; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=847952.0

Get a life.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: LongAndShort on November 17, 2014, 10:02:11 AM
@StealthCoin1

Stop it kid you are way out of your league. Go and read the op and study the questions he asked. stealthcoin can not provide anything for them besides sms relay and its not even researched stealthsend.
Please for everyones sake just dry the tears and move on. Thankyou.

I gave my specific details on my choice of coin. I even gave yours which you are still to give in this tread. You are way offtopic, you haven't answered the op or my questions and you are not really contributing anything to the debate but more ridiculous attacks on whatever it is you are dribbling on about now. You are basically handing me this debate on a platter. A common theme for you and the majority of the stealthcoin fraudsters so thankyou.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: StealthCoin1 on November 17, 2014, 10:05:34 AM
i guessed you still don't get it, i would accepted shadowcoin is a scam and moving on if i were you.

shadow, "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow".
my question now is how this will be done? for god sake please stop brag about this zerocoin zk for a second. why are you guys eager to dumps so much?


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: Schild_ on November 17, 2014, 10:08:23 AM
i guessed you still don't get it, i would accepted shadowcoin is a scam and moving on if i were you.

shadow, "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow".
my question now is how this will be done? for god sake please stop brag about this zerocoin zk for a second. why are you guys eager to dumps so much?

^

 ;D

He's almost getting on my nerve.

Let's take a big breathe Longandshort and spend our energy in something more constructive.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: StealthCoin1 on November 17, 2014, 10:10:20 AM
i demanding shadowcoin/cash dev to removing "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow" if this can't be done or at least show us how or when this will be done.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: LongAndShort on November 17, 2014, 10:17:38 AM
i demanding shadowcoin/cash dev to removing "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow" if this can't be done or at least show us how or when this will be done.
Haven't been to coingateway.net yet have you. Merchants include Dell, Newegg, Namecheap, Overstock, Tigerdirect, Gyft, Fiverr and more (hit "Spend")

Shadow has a core foundation, it has not hyped anything. It has not marketed or gone after its target market YET because its modest and professional.

Stealthcoin is trying to take a premine and one feature to mainstream when its not ready=doomed to fail

I remind you to stay on topic and answer the op questions.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: StealthCoin1 on November 17, 2014, 10:29:38 AM
i demanding shadowcoin/cash dev to removing "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow" if this can't be done or at least show us how or when this will be done.
Haven't been to coingateway.net yet have you. Merchants include Dell, Newegg, Namecheap, Overstock, Tigerdirect, Gyft, Fiverr and more (hit "Spend")

Shadow has a core foundation, it has not hyped anything. It has not marketed or gone after its target market YET because its modest and professional.

Stealthcoin is trying to take a premine and one feature to mainstream when its not ready=doomed to fail

I remind you to stay on topic and answer the op questions.

coingateway is nothing special but just another cheap exchange. merchants included dell, newegg and overstock accepting bitcoin but not your scam coin. i guessed this cheap coingateway is just like your coin which ride on other people wave, they should also removing dell or virgin logos ect as it have nothing to do with their cheap exchange. i also demanding shadowcoin/cash dev to removing "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow" it have no store, no adoption and nothing on the roadmap which confirm about this, basically this have nothing to do with their coin. it's just a copy idea from other coin.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: StealthCoin1 on November 17, 2014, 10:39:55 AM
i demanding shadowcoin/cash dev to removing "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow" if this can't be done or at least show us how or when this will be done.
Haven't been to coingateway.net yet have you. Merchants include Dell, Newegg, Namecheap, Overstock, Tigerdirect, Gyft, Fiverr and more (hit "Spend")

Shadow has a core foundation, it has not hyped anything. It has not marketed or gone after its target market YET because its modest and professional.

Stealthcoin is trying to take a premine and one feature to mainstream when its not ready=doomed to fail

I remind you to stay on topic and answer the op questions.

coingateway is nothing special but just another cheap exchange. merchants included dell, newegg and overstock accepting bitcoin but not your scam coin. i guessed this cheap coingateway is just like your coin which ride on other people wave, they should also removing dell or virgin logos ect as it have nothing to do with their cheap exchange. i also demanding shadowcoin/cash dev to removing "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow" it have no store, no adoption and nothing on the roadmap, basically this have nothing to do with their coin.

Sure kid, you just keep telling yourself that

stealthcoin features/assets 1%. Premine, pumped and dumped by bobsurplus (who apparently has left)
Core dev: Hondo, a computer scientist not a cryptographer.

1: sms relay
2: stealthtext (seperate app download not part of the wallet)
2: stealthsend (not researched or built yet)


Shadow features/assets. No premine no pump and dump crew.

Core devs: Rynomster, technovert, - communications specialists, cryptographer.
Contributor dev: ludx (building html5 sdk for app devs)
Frontend devs: crz-,  ffmad

1: Range of mobile staking wallets android iOS and soon ubuntu touch. "ShadowGo"
2: Range of pos litewallets "ShadowLite"
3: unique open source implementation of duel key stealth addresses (mainnet) ShadowSend v1 (used by almost all anoncoins to date including stealthcoin, taken from Shadow)
4: Efficient 100% anonymous transactions (in public testnet beta testing phase) "ShadowSend v2"
5: Html5 ui ( with a sdk currently in development) "ShadowBrowser"
6: Secure skype, whatsapp replacement. File, voice and video support (researched but not built yet) ShadowChat v2

Facts speak for themselves.


did you read about this? shadow "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow" it have no store, no adoption and nothing on the roadmap which confirm about this, basically this have nothing to do with shadowcoin, it's just a copy idea from other coin.
can you let me know how shadowcoin achieve this buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow? i don't think you guys can achieve this anytime soon. it's now all hype about this zerocoin zk and the big dumps coming.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: LongAndShort on November 17, 2014, 10:43:23 AM
I gave you my response, if you want to go round and round in circles like an idiot thats fine but you are offtopic and still have not answered the op questions.

I am not going to enable you to further humiliate yourself. bye, child!

https://i.imgur.com/sgvYebr.png


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: StealthCoin1 on November 17, 2014, 10:46:29 AM
I gave you my response, if you want to go round and round in circles like an idiot thats fine but you are offtopic and still have not answered the op questions.

I am not going to enable you to further humiliate yourself. bye, child!

you copy and paste your posts again and again then accused me of going circles?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857415.msg9568563#msg9568563

it's seem you and your scam coin have no taste about anything

edit; i see you have edited your post with a graph. stealthcoin base is 1k and it's now at 3k so it's still up 200% that is what my portfolio say


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: igl00 on November 18, 2014, 01:14:38 AM
EXCL for me - developer not hiding by new account, working marketplace with disocunt, 100% things on time. really following this coin and was just added to bitcoin mag http://bitcoinmagazine.com/18449/hard-rock-hotel-casino-punta-cana-in-the-dominican-republic-now-giving-discounts-for-using-bitcoin-exclusive-coin/


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: nutildah on November 18, 2014, 01:17:10 AM
I'm bored by this subject a long time ago but:

XCP
NXT
SJCX
DRK

and thats about it


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: Ozymandias The Third on November 18, 2014, 01:30:45 AM
I would argue that Incognito Coin is one of the most successful community-run coins thus far. Most of their efforts is directed at merchant adoption and real-world use beyond speculative trading. It's accepted at GeneralByte ATMs, Cointopay, and various online merchants. A modified web-wallet similar to a "brain-wallet" is being developed in addition to improvements focusing on core functionality beyond its stealth address tx system.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: juicyjuice87 on November 18, 2014, 04:17:38 AM
shadow, "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow".
there is no store or how he's going to buy or sell with shadow. nothing on roadmap of how he's going to achieve this but hype about this nonsense crap zk which don't exist and you have the nerve to accused other coin being vaporware.lol  ;D

I love it how you scrubs at stealthcoin walk right into this trap every time and allow people to make a comparison to your vaporware project.

The thing you don't seem to understand is this is tech and the clear difference here is that Shadow has built its core foundation within 4 months. It has just released its testing phase for a completely efficient 100% anonymous transactions
(ZK Zero Knowledge) without the mixing gimik. It is a straight p2p zero knowledge transaction that is highly secure unlike some attempted implementations lately (using zerocoin).

It is complimented by a whole range of mobile wallets for android and even iOS (reminder that bitcoin does not even have an iOS wallet yet!) that are optimized for low battery use. It is still, i believe the only project with a pos lite wallet (something blackcoin and peercoin still do not have). It is the only complete package that has a html5 interface with a sdk being made for app devs to build and monetise the network with a built in encrypted chat that you can even send (currently) weblinks, images and text through (mobile and desktop also including animated gif)

Secure communication goes hand in hand with secure, anonymous Shadow banking!

So lets sum it up shall we


stealthcoin features/assets 1%. Premine, pumped and dumped by bobsurplus (who apparently has left)
Core dev: Hondo, a computer scientist not a cryptographer.

1: sms relay
2: stealthtext (seperate app download not part of the wallet)
2: stealthsend (not researched or built yet)


Shadow features/assets. No premine no pump and dump crew.
Core devs: Rynomster, technovert,  - communications specialists, cryptographer.
Contributor dev: ludx (building html5 sdk for app devs)
Frontend devs: crz-,  ffmad
1: Range of mobile staking wallets android iOS and soon ubuntu touch. "ShadowGo"
2: Range of pos litewallets "ShadowLite"
3: unique open source implementation of duel key stealth addresses (mainnet) ShadowSend v1 (used by almost all anoncoins to date including stealthcoin, taken from Shadow)
4: Efficient 100% anonymous transactions (in public testnet beta testing phase) "ShadowSend v2"
5: Html5 ui ( with a sdk currently in development) "ShadowBrowser"
6: Secure skype, whatsapp replacement. File, voice and video support (researched but not built yet) ShadowChat v2

I don't need to say anymore really the facts, again, speak for themselves.
Smart money can make up their own minds and invest/support/use what they think is best. Dumb money will waste money/time/effort on premined vaporware projects doomed to fail!

shadow, "buy,sell,trade,chat. leave nothing but shadow".
all and all there is no store or how he's going to buy or sell with shadow. no info provide on roadmap of when or how this will be done.
right now is just all hype about this zerocoin zk and when it is out, if ryno capable of doing this, then we all will see the finishing dumps by the few whales. all we hear/heard about shadowcoin/shadowcash is this zerocoin zk with nothing to brag about but hype for the big dump, your coin and community offer nothing to the crypto world but wanting to destroy other coins for your own good by cheap plug your scam coin with other coins wave. again, your coin is a scam; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=847952.0

Get a life.

Lol


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: Crypto King on November 18, 2014, 05:14:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/kFaL6cN.png

Goldcoin (GLD)

This is the coin for me right now and for the future, I think it’s sensible and has a great marketing aspect in terms of name, logo, a coin which can be easily recognised by everyone worldwide, why? Because of the name ‘Gold’ gold means wealth, investment security and digital payment. Who wouldn’t want to own gold in a digital format.
Security means a coin which arrived May 2013 and is still here today that’s good and still remains in the top 100 coins in terms of marketcap. Goldcoin have a Great Dev who In June of 2013, he took over development responsibilities. He has made several major improvements to the client including the implementation of Goldcoin’s 51% attack defence system. Goldcoin is a genuinely unique coin, not just another litecoin clone. Development is continuing with the Dev putting in lots of work building a new Java client and the community taking on work themselves.

A great community here: https://www.gldtalk.org/index.php (life doesn’t resolve around bitcointalk)

If you look at the Goldcoin chart for example on coinmarketcap, look how the average price is so stable since January 2014, the only way is up and up in a nice progressive steady format based on valid foundations such as proven development.

•   A great name meaning "value" to billions of people Worldwide.
•   Unique and innovative 51% attack defence system.
•   A genuinely unique coin not just another litecoin clone.
•   Total number of coins to be mined 123,423,900 .
•   Faster transactions than LTC and BTC - 2 minutes.
•   Faster difficulty adjustment time - 60 blocks.
•   Coin generation rules modelled after physical gold.
•   Hash algorithm (scrypt).
•   Gradual reduction in block reward creating diminishing coin supply.
•   Block reward rules that finally cap supply after 100 years of mining.

Take 10 minutes and have a read around the forum https://www.gldtalk.org/index.php and check out the website http://gldcoin.com/

Goldcoin – the Gold Standard of Digital Currency


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: HeroCat on November 19, 2014, 10:44:47 AM
BTC and Doge, because there are users of them daily. Doge you can use in Dice sites for example.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: Alaric Saltzman on November 19, 2014, 12:14:54 PM
Sidechains are coming.  They will be the altcoin killer.  Going to suck the blood out of most altcoins.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: bitcoin-world.de on November 19, 2014, 01:02:21 PM
I think NxT, Bitshares and Ethereum are the Bitcoin Killer. The features of them is really an innovation to the world and shows Bitcoin like Web 0.1.

Especially, that NxT dont need much of Power to Secure up the Network, thats very important in my opinion and the decentralized Asset Exchange, the Alias and Messaging System and the decentralized Shop System in there are very valuable and useful features which are needed in the world. The other good think is the security of the wallet, you dont need to backup your wallet in NXT like in Bitcoin, so a Hardware Crash is not a lost of your digital Assets, you only need your passphrase and thats it.

Its by the way the only coin which do not speak only like ethereum but its working now and can be used already. I think people dont realize thats because the price is only 2 Cents. I dont see a problem why NXT couldnt be about a Dollar or more because the features are working, the team is always improving the System and more and more Assets go through the NxT System. Of course its not perfect and some things should be changed or fixed but its on the work.

Another Highlight is Node at the moment and can be the rival of Nxt.

The other 1000 Coins are only peace of shit to take your bitcoins and then stop developement after that.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: LongAndShort on November 19, 2014, 01:07:23 PM
I think NxT, Bitshares and Ethereum are the Bitcoin Killer. The features of them is really an innovation to the world and shows Bitcoin like Web 0.1.

Especially, that NxT dont need much of Power to Secure up the Network, thats very important in my opinion and the decentralized Asset Exchange, the Alias and Messaging System and the decentralized Shop System in there are very valuable and useful features which are needed in the world. The other good think is the security of the wallet, you dont need to backup your wallet in NXT like in Bitcoin, so a Hardware Crash is not a lost of your digital Assets, you only need your passphrase and thats it.

Its by the way the only coin which do not speak only like ethereum but its working now and can be used already. I think people dont realize thats because the price is only 2 Cents. I dont see a problem why NXT couldnt be about a Dollar or more because the features are working, the team is always improving the System and more and more Assets go through the NxT System. Of course its not perfect and some things should be changed or fixed but its on the work.

Another Highlight is Node at the moment and can be the rival of Nxt.

The other 1000 Coins are only peace of shit to take your bitcoins and then stop developement after that.

nxt money supply is 999 million, thats why its 2 cents :)


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: bitcoin-world.de on November 19, 2014, 01:24:07 PM
I think NxT, Bitshares and Ethereum are the Bitcoin Killer. The features of them is really an innovation to the world and shows Bitcoin like Web 0.1.

Especially, that NxT dont need much of Power to Secure up the Network, thats very important in my opinion and the decentralized Asset Exchange, the Alias and Messaging System and the decentralized Shop System in there are very valuable and useful features which are needed in the world. The other good think is the security of the wallet, you dont need to backup your wallet in NXT like in Bitcoin, so a Hardware Crash is not a lost of your digital Assets, you only need your passphrase and thats it.

Its by the way the only coin which do not speak only like ethereum but its working now and can be used already. I think people dont realize thats because the price is only 2 Cents. I dont see a problem why NXT couldnt be about a Dollar or more because the features are working, the team is always improving the System and more and more Assets go through the NxT System. Of course its not perfect and some things should be changed or fixed but its on the work.

Another Highlight is Node at the moment and can be the rival of Nxt.

The other 1000 Coins are only peace of shit to take your bitcoins and then stop developement after that.

nxt money supply is 999 million, thats why its 2 cents :)


Then calculate 1000 million / 20 Million = 500

Now it a bitcoin costs 500$ and you calculate 500$ / 500 = 1$. So 1$ should be the minimum value of NXT, if bitcoin is 1000$ so 2$ should be the value of NXT, but because NXT is very innovativ, the value could also be 5$ or 10$ but only if people accept crypto currencies and use it maybe in 2 years.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: e-coinomist on November 19, 2014, 06:42:22 PM
Now it a bitcoin costs 500$ and you calculate 500$ / 500 = 1$. So 1$ should be the minimum value of NXT, if bitcoin is 1000$ so 2$ should be the value of NXT, but because NXT is very innovativ, the value could also be 5$ or 10$ but only if people accept crypto currencies and use it maybe in 2 years.

Dude...

BTC != 1000$ exactly, not even nearby


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: bitcoin-world.de on November 19, 2014, 11:13:53 PM
Now it a bitcoin costs 500$ and you calculate 500$ / 500 = 1$. So 1$ should be the minimum value of NXT, if bitcoin is 1000$ so 2$ should be the value of NXT, but because NXT is very innovativ, the value could also be 5$ or 10$ but only if people accept crypto currencies and use it maybe in 2 years.

Dude...

BTC != 1000$ exactly, not even nearby


bitcoin could be about 10000$ per BTC without problem, if people can use it easiliy and if the wallets are more secure from other hackers, because Windows, MAC and Smartphones are too easy to hack atm to use it for High Value digital Assets, but more and more Solutions to the problems will come, like the BTC Hardware Wallet. The problem in bitcoin security is also that there are no distributed exchanges, if one exchange get down, then your BTC is lost like in MTGOX.

I see Crypto Currency right now as if it was the Internet in the year 1996, so it has much of potential and is very useful in my opinion.

But what I not like is that every day comes another shitcoin which we dont need, with high promises and the end is thin air and losing my bitcoins because the developement stopped and the developer is starting a new coin and so on, we should do something against such of people, who make Crypto Currency like a Kindergarden and to protect other users not invest in such useless coins.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on November 20, 2014, 10:55:39 AM
I think NxT, Bitshares and Ethereum are the Bitcoin Killer. The features of them is really an innovation to the world and shows Bitcoin like Web 0.1.

Especially, that NxT dont need much of Power to Secure up the Network, thats very important in my opinion and the decentralized Asset Exchange, the Alias and Messaging System and the decentralized Shop System in there are very valuable and useful features which are needed in the world. The other good think is the security of the wallet, you dont need to backup your wallet in NXT like in Bitcoin, so a Hardware Crash is not a lost of your digital Assets, you only need your passphrase and thats it.

Its by the way the only coin which do not speak only like ethereum but its working now and can be used already. I think people dont realize thats because the price is only 2 Cents. I dont see a problem why NXT couldnt be about a Dollar or more because the features are working, the team is always improving the System and more and more Assets go through the NxT System. Of course its not perfect and some things should be changed or fixed but its on the work.

Another Highlight is Node at the moment and can be the rival of Nxt.

The other 1000 Coins are only peace of shit to take your bitcoins and then stop developement after that.


I agree 100% with you. Every month they release another feature but the price does not follow. Perfect time to fill your pockets with NXT.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: gustav on November 20, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
uno

because features aren't money and only fair coins stand a chance. Most stable altcoin, no doubt it will survive for years, decades, maybe centuries.


Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: BitcoinNational on November 28, 2014, 01:57:39 PM
What the man said.  UNO.

Officially entering ZERO inflation stage.  Today.

The smartest most mature most honest most in it for the long haul ACTIVE community on this forum.  

A stable market history ... show me a better long chart.  Look who has fallen and is falling below us, and we've done it with out a pump.

Uno is doing what it takes, not hyping features, not launching fancy websites, and has been in the game taking hits for over 1 year and it keeps a going ... UP.  



Title: Re: which alts are left that have some serious promise and WHY?? in DETAIL.
Post by: smalltimer on November 28, 2014, 03:09:23 PM
^

those guys are right.
Uno is going to rock it. LONGTERM.
I do have no pricetarget right now for that coin.
It's deluxe crypto.
Worth a closer look.