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so, i live with my fiance and her parents. we all get along just fine. their son lives on the property they own, in a trailer. he brought in someone i can best describe as his gf and she's been living there. in short, she's trash. drugs, actively involved in crime, threats of violence against us, etc. he's no peach either, but that's for later.

no lease agreement, verbal or written exists. no permission was given. she's been verbally told to get the fuck out multiple times, but refuses to do so.

my future in laws just went to a justice of the pease earlier today to try to file for eviction, but were shut down. something to do with the lack of lease. i don't know the details as they aren't home yet.

to put it lightly, my fiance is in tears, her mother - who's hand two heart attacks and survived cancer - is on the verge of physically puking she's so stressed and we're afraid she's gonna drop dead for all this.

anyone got any ideas? all i can think to do is to get her folks to declare me their agent, as they own the land but are both well into their 60's and aren't really able to handle this shit, and then deal with her myself, violently if i must. not that i want to hurt her or anything, but this shit's gone long enough. however i can't find anything on how to GET that declaration done and legally recognized. fiance is worried i'd get arrested for getting involved when it's not my property.

does anyone here have any idea where we can turn or how we can solve this before my mother in law has another heart attack?

If I were in your situation, I would contact a lawyer for legal advice.

Probably a good idea. Think I'll make some calls relating to that in the morning.

No problem. I'm glad to help.

Good luck with lawyers.
Its going to be hard to evict someone from the property. She's living with the son who has a place and has been allowed to reside there. It will be next to impossible to enforce who lives with him and who does not.

Of course, if she is abusing the family and making threats; then it would be a police matter. 

Drugs and criminal activities should also provoke interest from the authorities.

How tough are you? Can you make life miserable for her(them)? Turn off the water? Turn off the power?

If you have firearms and are rural you could always fire a shot over her head. Blame it on raccoons.       I'm kidding ... I'm kidding.

In my country, squatters move into city parks and public places. They have a very hard time getting rid of them.

this falls under the category of "house squatters" get a lawyer, and they will issue to get the legal right for them to get out of the place.

the judge will order something related to eviction, specific to house squatting since they wont leave. it moves faster, if a written agreement or lease thats been broken.

also when you hire a lawyer, ask their hourly rate or if they work on a flat rate, etc.

If they are paying the bills electricity water house taxes you have a very hard job getting them out could take up to two years doing it the legal way.Of course a burst from a AR51 in the house while there sleeping can often make them think twice about squatting

thanks guys. yea, the "next to impossible" is what we're finding, it seems.

and we ARE rural, actually... believe me, i'm tempted, but since it's not my property, i can't be the one doing it... sigh.

nope - they don't pay a dime for anything. no ar15's handy. shotgun, revolver, couple pistols though...

It is probably even more complicated than that, if she is living with the son in a separate building on the same land.
Depending on how much you care about getting the son in trouble, waiting until there are drugs or other illegal items in the trailer and then calling the police is one option.

yea, that's my fear. course he's run out his welcome too, at this stage. just one problem at a time seems to be the method here.

were it left in my hands, she'd be gone in a few hours. him too. scare the fucking shit out of them. i'd like to think it'd be easy. sigh.

I really feel for you.

Not sure I would spend a bunch of money on lawyers but you could always have one write up a letter for you threatening them with lawsuits and other legal mayhem. This may help to scare them off.

I think you are hooped otherwise. The son is, well, related to the owners and has been living there. Therefore his position is "grandfathered".
If the owners are old and in poor health, fighting with the son and gf is NOT an option. They will not persevere.

Hopefully, you can find a way to distance yourselves from the trouble makers and, just, wait it out. This may be unlikely if the troublemakers are living on the property for free and getting free utilities.

Can you move them to the opposite side of the property?

it's likely we can get the utilities to their trailer shut off easily enough. and they ARE on the opposite side of the property.

You can't "wait them out". I'm no lawyer, but I did do some research on squatting a few years ago. If I remember correctly (here in Canada) squatters will legally own the right to live there after a certain amount of time passes. (7 years, i think.) Since there is no lease you can't "evict" them, but I'm guessing this would fall under trespassing and that should actually make it easier. No? Regardless, (again since there is no lease) I think you can legally turn off services like water and hydro. Also, calling the cops for any illegal activities is a no-brainer. (If you're bold enough and resourceful you could even try "planting evidence".)

Then again, you could always get some big dogs and let them run loose on the property, although I'm not entirely sure about the legal ramifications if someone were to get hurt. Hmm... I wonder what would happen if (one day while they were out) 'someone' stole their trailer. ;)


Good luck!

Well everyone got home and I looked over the paperwork. Doesn't make much sense. It's an eviction form and such. I don't see why they couldn't file it. Bleh.

buy a tank or some other armoured vehicle which you can drag stuff around really easily with, attach it to the trailer in the middle of the night when they aren't around and drag it out to some deserted wasteland out in the middle of nowhere, they'll get the message, seriously, that's what I'd do, they've invaded your home, the parents are clearly being taken advantage of because they wouldn't be able to fight back easily.

We hear about this kind of shit a lot in the UK and if isn't that we're dealing with it's obnoxious neighbours who just don't care about how loud they are.

Lol. She had a warrant out for violating her parole! Didn't know that... But the cops did! I called 911 and told them what was going on, mentioned I was worried she would get shot, they came and took her away in cuffs. Well, zip ties.

I am overjoyed right now. Thanks for talking me through guys.

LOL! Awesome ah well, people like that do tend to always dig their own graves anyway, just be ready for the pissed off brother.

Oh yea. I can handle him.

you should have given her a copy of Satoshi's whitepaper and told her "you'll have plenty of time to study this where you're going."

Well done. Glad to hear it.  :)

Was going to suggest on doing a background check if she has a problem with the law, but apparently the cops beat me to it. ;)

Sadly I didn't see them. Gf's dad did, though.

>buy a tank or some other armoured vehicle

Reminder that we're talking about real life here, not some bitcoin fantasy land.

You can get ones that are pretty damn cheap actually for what they are and the weirdest part is it's totally legal, even in my country just as long as they're deactivated, so they hate guns but they're totally okay with me driving around in an armoured monstrosity that could demolish a block of flats in a few minutes lol.

Actually that sounds pretty dope. Can you post pics or a vid or something of your tank?

I don't have one yet :( I know places where you can get them though, if I make a chunk of money I'm probably going to get one, but a nice computer comes first :P

http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/#currency=USD

http://www.mod-sales.com/

The joke is in my country because these are 'collectibles' the insurance is supposed to be cheaper on them, much cheaper, so it would be easier for me to have one of these things than a bloody hatchback, bureaucrats and politicians really are a bunch of morons, I think in the US the laws are a bit tighter but the basic rule just seems to be that you need to declare you imported them so they know about it, it's all surplus stuff and some of it's from the cold war so it's just lying around not being sold because they never had to use any of it against the Russians.

yet another reason i feel like i live in the wrong country... mmm. tanks.

Thanks man, but they don't look too cheap unless I'm looking at the wrong page? I see this (http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/tanks-2/bmp-1--bvp-1--75#currency=USD) which seems to be the cheapest tank at $17 812, but apparently one would have to buy a transporter (http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/jeeps,-trucks-a-motos-3/tatra-t-813-119#currency=USD) thing which starts at $8 350, and there are probably other costs too. The most practical solution in OP's case would probably just be to get a lawyer. But yeah, it'd be seriously cool to take one of these bad boys for a ride.

What country were you in again by the way?

Create a journal documenting all the threats of violence, drug use, and criminal associations.

Then use it to get a temporary restraining order against her.  You don't need a lawyer for one, just go down to the police station/courthouse.

Problem solved; you're welcome.

There's smaller stuff like BMP's and APC's that are less than $10,000 but they'll still be pretty powerful, the main point is a car will cost stupid amounts of insurance in my country and on top of that even a tiny hatchback is usually above these prices but with these you basically can fit several people in them if you need to.

Also, I'm in the UK so yeah :P

I assume you are in the United States.  The owner of the property (whoever owns the deed) can file with the local district court or magistrate as it is called in some states to get her out.  If the unwanted person has been living there in most states (hard to believe but true) they have certain rights.

Depending on where you live (state , county ect)  may be a big factor in how long it will take.

Careful bringing up the drugs or illegal items, since police could use that as an excuse to seize the entire property,  sounds crazy but happens all the time in Philadelphia where I am from and many other places also. 

You may not need a lawyer but the owner of the property has to file the paperwork and pay a court fee to get the ball rolling.

There are resources on the web you can google as if you are a landlord and want someone evicted from your land. 

Follow a similar process.  (I know some places people with no lease basically squatters have more rights than someone who defaulted on a lease)

Hopefully you don't live in one of those places.   Best of luck with this difficult issue.

Thank you armchair lawyers.

A good idea :)

I'm glad the police helped him out. Hiring a lawyer is not ideal. Many have the habit of milking a situation to excess.

throw the person out and tell them what will happen should they return, are there no men left on this fucking planet?

never call the cops , unless you absolutly have to

at least that is my personal feelings,

i would have. but since it's not my property, i wasn't allowed to, for fear (from my fiance) that i'd get arrested for it.

not to mention the fact you dont have to worry about anyone cutting you up or dinging your car in the car park.. and the fact aslong as you follow UK rules on tax and insurance you can also invade any European country ahhh the though of driving a British tank through France and Germany makes me all giddy XD. and theres not a damn thing they can do about it :D

and can you imagine someone trying to clamp or tow it id sit there and watch the traffic wardens heads explode with confusion

LOL I'm not surprised I'm the only one who thought about this as a solution for owning a car, but yes, one of the best things about having an APC would be the fact that tailgating wankers wouldn't be able to mess up your car, they'd just crumple up against the back of it.