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We felt like we should produce some help for the new traders.
Sometimes many of people doing bitcoin trading or Forex trading, many of traders have good knowledge about bitcoin trading, but a lot of traders have knowledge but at beginner level.

Statistics show that the initial success for new forex/bitcoin traders is disturbingly low. Over time, this trend tends to improve, but for many, it is too late. After posting a series of losses, many new traders will give-up, believing that forex/bitcoin trading is simply not for them. It does not have to be this way.

Anyway, The most important issue in trading is "Lack of Experience" and all advanced traders have necessary experience.

Introduction:

We decided to start our own company in 01/07/2014 with name: Bitcoin Limited (Dr. Bitcoin Trading Solution) with number of 09023085 for help to new traders also all traders that time is gold for them.

Our team consists of highly experienced team in Bitcoin business since 2013,
We're all located in United Kingdom/London and Iran/Tehran

Our team members:

Javad Moghadam, Dr. Bitcoin IT Manager and Developer
Puria Yeganeh, CEO-Founder - Bitcoin Trader
Jerry Rezaie,  Bitcoin Trader - Investor


During the time, our team will be change to large investors into cryptocurrencies and people who get their wages in Bitcoin

Benefits of Dr. Bitcoin?

As a regular investor,you do not need to be expert at Bitcoin trading market.What's you need to do is investing your Bitcoin in Dr. Bitcoin secure wallet.
- Currently we offer one investment plan, highest return of investment per 2% weekly or 8% Monthly profitable for lifetime.
- 0% Trading fee
- Loss is meaningless, and youre win always

WOW,  8% Monthly? Its HYIP or PONZI?

If you are professional trader in Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, so you know 8% per month is normal rate of profit in trading.
No WE ARE NOT HYIP or PONZI, for the reasons.

1. Our company is certificated by COMODO
2. we are physical company
3. We have money back guarantee

Whats Dr. Bitcoin Guarantee?

There are two guarantee plan in Dr. Bitcoin team.

1. 36 Hours money back guarantee
2. Money back guarantee after received first profit

Whats Dr. Bitcoin benefits?
We believe win-win rules.
You will receive 2% weekly profit, but we will earn 2.5% - 3.5% weekly from trading, so we take 0.5% - 1.5% profit per week for Dr. Bitcoin team.
I suggest you visit FAQ and read your answer.


Our website:

https://www.dr-bitcoin.com

Official Communication channels:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bitcoin-Trading-Solution/298481063609657

https://twitter.com/DrBitcoinCom

https://www.linkedin.com/company/bitcoin-trading-solution

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChn64BhrHipqkkcHVquTeow/

https://plus.google.com/u/0/112183494740259202385/posts

Mobile app:
http://a15d5e25-49aa-4b9b-89a0-d299e6f933d2.mobapp.at/landing/Desktop#.VIIfIS502zd

Support

If you have any question read FAQ:
https://dr-bitcoin.com/faq

Else contact us with our information e-mail and send your questions:
info@dr-bitcoin.com

SMS: +98 (919) 355 1464
Viber: +44 (745) 2269648
We will present our solutions to the Bitcoin community in the nearest time and ask you for understanding our intentions in the right way.

investigating.

Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ok0vu/drbitcoincom_grow_your_bitcoin_up_to_8_per_month/

Can we get some idetification? Your personal bitcointalk forum account names? Your trade history proof? Photo Identification? Proof of address? The wallet that guarantees all of the investment back?

By the definition, you are a HYIP and need to move the thread to Gambling section.

Nice site though.
But sending 0.1 btc directly to a random address seems dull.

Good questions,
First i have question, do you know who owns bitcoin trading platforms? - similar to BTC-e or other company - Have you ever seen the them?

For the security we can’t send any proof of address, the prevent misuse of photo identity and proof of residence.
You can see our address in Comodo certificate,  It’s available and verified.

Our balance in btc-e:
http://oi61.tinypic.com/18zp5u.jpg

Not hyip, we are really investment program with high return.
We believe our project is first high return without dead in the world. you will see Dr. Bitcoin project in future, live for always.  :)

just another bitcoin-trader.biz ponzi till real trading evidence is shown.

1. How does a SSL certificate guarantee a honorable company?
2. Clever ponzis always register a Limited.
3. Like everyone does...
All 3 facts are the same with a lot of ponzis out there, including bitcoin-trader.biz running with about 7.5 M$ of investors money.

Provide evidence of your successful trading acitivites.

Without strong proof
Many users won't invest at your site & will say your site is scam/HYIP/ponzi  :(

And honestly, maybe you need to lower minimum invest to 0.01 BTC
Anyway, i think the chance this site is scam/HYIP/ponzi is about 60%

You have to give strong proof, without that only few people in this forum believe you

bitcoin-trader.biz plans was 1.75% - 3% DAILY  :D It was really funny.
Our plan is 8% per month and its rational in bitcoin trading business.
 
We could add 0.5% per month or 6% per year(To gain the trust people), but we add 8% profit for all.

Do you know about EV SSL?

" Extended validation (EV) certificates use the highest level of authentication and were specifically created to boost and maintain customer confidence in ecommerce through a rigorous verification process and specific, EV certificate-only browser cues like the green address bar. EV certificates incorporate some of the highest standards for identity assurance to establish the legitimacy of online entities. "

http://oi57.tinypic.com/24fn0h0.jpg

You mean All Limited companies are just a ponzi?
So Comodo is ponzi?

http://oi59.tinypic.com/25k50fd.jpg

or many banks are ponzi?
Such as https://www.ubldirect.com or https://www.ktbnetbank.com/consumer/ or https://homebank.tsbbank.co.nz/online/ etc

Thank you for good questions

We can change minimum investment but in your opinion can we trade with $10-$29?
Profit will be low amount. if people want to change minimum investment amount, we'll be change it.  :)
It can be lower risk for investors  ;)

At the very least provide us with your personal bitcointalk.org personal account names. I trade on cryptsy and BigVern has a fair amount of transparency to provide this. You can always escrow your identity with JohnK or another trusted longtime forum escrow servicer.

be careful with this one people, i dont see anything in this post to show any safety for members

1. You would be a bunch of idiots offering the same interest rate as bitcoin-trader.biz. Long time, they offered just about 0.8 %. Offering a lower rate doesn't make anything legit.
2. I still don't see how an "EV SSL" gives any guarantee. What is included?
3. No, but clever driven ponzis register LLCs to lead investors to believe "they have an registered company, they must be legit". A registered company doesn't make anything legit nor provides anykind of safty for investors.
4. Company owners are from Iran, there is simply no law enforcement.

Again, I'm asking for a prove of your successful trading activities.

Note: We don't need to capital. because our income is enough for our team, we thought that many investors loss money and we established a site for help to amateurs and new traders and all but apparently this its bad. :)

What you want exactly?
Trade history or electricity bill or picture of traders and me?

We accept escrow service.

For safety and trust, minimum investment change to 0.01 BTC

Some kind of API based trade histroy. No need to have a live one, a time-lagged one is fine. NO Screenshots!

How should that work? Gaining interest without using the deposit?

2. I still don't see how an "EV SSL" gives any guarantee. What is included?

Escrow accept just for docs, not for deposit, for deposit we don't have any escrow, we change investment min to 0.01BTC for deposit ;)
I think now risk is zero for investors  :)
We can't share trade history api to anyone, its secret, non public.

Extended Validation for SSL encryption is provided for legally accredited entities like Dr. Bitcoin . Authenticity of this resource and its trustworthiness is confirmed by COMODO CA Limited. Secure connection is encrypted with a 2048-bit key. Relying party warranty for Extended Validation SSL Certificate is $1,750,000.00 .

Directly deposit: 1DikzQd9pPuqE3vDfizPS7skq9wBSsZZw

I expected this answer. There is no reason to hide any past tradings. No proof = SCAM

Nice try. Insurance is for online credit card payments only. You don't offer credit card payment. EV SSL provides absolutly NO guarantees to investors.

Paypal payment will be add as soon as possible.

You need proof so we send proof to you.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/t53xie.jpg

You can see our experience./* one year ago */

You claim you offer money back guarantee if that is true, then please give the money back guarantee to a trusted escrow service so that you can not run with the funds.

How can we using escrow for trading? We will send btc's to our trading account and we will play with money. so how can we using escrow service?

I have an idea..

Who are trusted escrow service in Bitcointalk? reliable and trusted.
We can send our btc-e login info for access to escrow service.

This idea is very trust idea for all members.

That is not what I am saying. You claim you will provide money back guarantee. So I am saying when the money back guarantee kicks in you give the money to a trusted escrow to hold. If you go bankrupt then the escrow pays out the money. If not he returns it to you.

what sort of timescale would you put on this to show the company have 'not gone bankrupt' ?

well I think there are 2 options

1. Do it as a reserve so that the original investment of all users is at bare minimum covered.

2. have it as a full reserve where 100% of user balances is held by an escrow agent until such time as the user withdraws his balance.

Totally agree on that. This is how legitimate brokers actually work.
Trading off their own reserve while adding client funds to that reserve. In this instance, because: blockchain; its easy for the broker to give confidence to the prospective client by showing the btc reserve address.
In this case the reserve should be in escrow.
I'd be confident to use a broker that employs this method.

just a lame scam with a bought account guys, stay away

Anybody don't test our offer and we don't have any bad vote, so please don't disarray.

So you mean members send BTC to escrow and after pay monthly/weekly profit to them, escrow pay to me?

Anyway, we accept escrow, but if members pay money to escrow so how we trade?

No users deposit funds to you and you make a money back guarantee to the escrow so that if you disappear the escrow has the money back guarantee money to give to users.

No problem and we agree, but if money  pay to escrow so how we do trading and play with money?

to run a business like this, you should have a reserve equal to the sum you receive from your first month of clientelle.
brokers do not trade from client funds, brokers trade from their own reserve, clients are paid their portion of the profit after you have done the trade.

you can't just say

'give us your money and we will trade with it'

that's not how it works. in normal circumstance, a broker is doing it as a full time job because they are good at it.
if they are good at it, they will have full reserve to secure the assets of their customers.

this statement makes you look very amateur. see above.

I will have to agree with raskul, you should have a reserve if you are claiming money back guarantee as well in worst case have a fractional reserve.

Yes.
No need to read the rest.

You mean, we trade with our own money and pay profit's to investor's weekly/monthly?

SPAM/

This thread is almost as good as a "GROW YOUR DICK 4" IN 4 WEEKS. EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS HOW AND IS DOING IT. JUST SHUT UP AND LET ME TAKE YOUR MONEY. ILL TELL YOU HOW I PROMISE. GUARANTEED 'RETURN'." advertisement.

you will always lose your money and your life, do you know why? because you don't know who is good or who is bad for you and because you will not trust anyone in your life and your risk is zero.For your trusted, i convinced my team for escrow service but i think you're sleep. No problem, because investors vote's is important for us and you will see in future.  ;)

Post your traders' history from the past 7 days. Show me the 2.5% est gain in this week's time. Show me.

Have you started an identity escrow thread with trusted escrow? Do you have a 100% match of trade funds you can store in escrow as to protect investors? Have you put said funds in an escrow? Do you have any idea how bitcointalk.org works? Have you been on this forum longer than your account registration date? Methinksnot.

In fact, looking at your 12.16.2013 registration date(and lack of providing your personal forum account name(s) ), it seems you jumped on right as the boom happened. Like you have been cultivating this account just to suckle on the tit of gullible BTC.org users one 0.01 BTC at a time.


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.............. Is that you?!?!?!?!?!?!!

Basically I am saying that the user should deposit 1btc and then 1 coin should be given to an escrow agent as a money back gurentee

Thanks for your explain,

As you know, our system is investment such as PAMM account, but without using meta trader or pamm account.
You can see all pamm systems that how it work.
Similar to:
https://www.instaforex.com/ir/for_pamm_investors.php
http://alpari-forex.com/en/investor/pamm/investors/
etc
Anyway, We're trader so we can't unused any money.
If 1BTC give to an escrow so investors how can get profit? because 1BTC is unused and we just trading with our own money, so benefit is for owns. I think my words is rational.

You already got your answer:


Escrow deposit can be released step by step each time interest is paid to customers.

You're kidding me right? You posted a screenshot of a supposed balance of 57.+ BTC in your 'traders and investors' account and you can't escrow 1BTC?? You're insane to be asking for investors on this forum with an attitude like that.

Quoted for proof of post:

Please understand my words then send post.
I can send BTC to escrow. 1BTC is example and 1BTC invest from investor.

 +1

Good, Please give me an example.
1BTC invest from Investor >> escrow >> Dr. Bitcoin trader

Example.

DrBTC sends 1BTC to John K. (Trusted forum escrow service).

John K. confirms receipt of said funds. John K. holds onto said funds as a fail safe for investors.

After John K. confirms he is holding the funds, you post proof in your thread and begin requesting (up to) 1 BTC of investments from members.

Members will now feel safe sending you (combined/up to) 1 BTC for trading investments.

If Dr. Bitcoin can not deliver said 8% return in the guaranteed time frame, or if at any time Dr. Bitcoin breaks any part of the initial agreement, the escrow funds will be distributed to members who otherwise would have lost their investment.

If Dr. Bitcoin can deliver as promised, his 1 BTC will stay in escrow after his payouts, to assume the spot for new investor security. You have to keep track of your members, payments, escrow funding, etc. Publicly if you want the utmost transparency to show investors this is a sweeter than cherry pie deal.

If Dr. Bitcoin would like to accept larger investments, larger escrow holdings are relevant. If Dr. Bitcoin would like to cease all services, his escrow BTC will be returned in a timely manner. As do investors expect the same.

Until you prove, through a method like this, that you are a trusted and reliable source, it will be very difficult to fund your project/service.

That doesnt make sense. Why would someone give 1BTC in escrow, and then find someone else to refund that same 1BTC ? The OP might just as well 'invest' with that 1 BTC and keep the "profits" for himself.

And that exposes precisely why this is a 100% guaranteed ponzi: if OP really could make anything close to 8+% per month, he wouldnt need to seek investors here, he'd be filthy rich. More over, he wouldnt pay out 8% to investors and only keep crumbs for himself, one would be crazy to pay 8% per month when you get investments and loans for a tiny fraction of that. Heck, even credit cards are cheaper. Or loan sharks.

btc-e offers PAMM accounts. Set up your own account on there, trade for 30 days and if you do the promised returns I will invest 1 BTC in you personally on the PAMM site.

https://pamm.btc-e.com/en/Pamm/anatolio

This allows us to follow your trading strategy, and you can take fees from profits.

Or users can escrow their funds to the escrow wallet. Dr. BTC Trades on said 'escrow funds' with his funds, until he can prove the gigantic claimed return. He asked for an example. If you have a better one, please post it :)

Although I feel MrW hit it quite well.

No escrow, no coins, bro

Thank you for comments.I'll consult with team

Your offer is good but we can't send 1BTC to escrow service for 1BTCinvest from investors, because our 1BTC will be unused in trading, and our project to be pointless.

Our offer for all:
- We'll be change our design.member can register in website and invest from account.
- Escrow service can be access to our btc-e.com account and report it to members.

In this case, if even we loss 0.01BTC, escrow can report to all members, also escrow can send btc's to investors from our btc-e account.

this is why proper brokers hold a reserve. as stated.

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