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Hi All,
We are glad to announce an official thread of BitFury Group. Here we will publish all important information about our Company.

BitFury Group has chosen Bit-X – a new online platform for cryptocurrency exchange, to serve for the time being as a platform for trading BitFury's hash power.
 
MORE DETAILS:
Q: How much does it cost?
A: The market defines the price.
 
Q: How much do you sell? Any specific requirements to qualify to buy?
A: Currently, 1PH has been allocated to Bit-X, no specific requirements.
 
Q: Is that the only place where BitFury sells its hashpower?
A: At this time, this is the only public trading place for BitFury's hashpower.

hello welcome to the forum

Will you be selling hardware or are you only providing a hashpower service?

Can we have some verification from a non 0 post account that this is indeed an official Bitfury project please? Nothing on the Bit-X or Bitfury sites state anything about this. And seems a bit weird seeing as Bitfury has PR representation.

I've messaged Punin and a press contact to confirm its an official account, might be some time due to time zones.

Edit: Confirmed, this is a Bitfury account.

Bla, bla, bla... and no link...

Self moderated thread. Never a good sign......

Hi guys,

This is indeed BitFury Groups official new account and the OP message is correct.

@ckolivas no hardware for sale at this time.

@Dogie thanks for pointing this thread out to me!

I wouldn't worry about that. Bitfury has good history. The key will be pricing.

Thanks, then this is in the wrong place. Rectifying.

I say hi

Please link this thread from your official website for authenticity.

Whos going to have the cheaper price, AMhash or bitx......we shall see

Yes we shall, I'm still cheering for AMhash but I will invest some of my bits here now, just waiting for the market hype to drop, heheh.

and thanks again to dogie for putting up SP-Tech, in his mTwthThread this is going to be neck and neck ;)

So...this is a new cloudmining service? ???

I must be missing something obvious on the website as I can't find anything close to that amount.

The BTC/GHS55 market has 1.1TH total
The USD/GHS55 has $600 total

This presumes I'm looking at the correct site, as you've not provided a link !!!!!!!!!!!!

Might be for private deals?

"Newbie" you do sound like one of the sour competitors that have lost out in the mining game.
Oh well, taking cheap shots is all you have left after over-promising to the customers on pre-orders and then fleecing them.
Rest assured,  BitFury is doing everything legally checking with the best legal counsel available in advance
Better ask yourself how many clients you defrauded ? Oh well, good luck with those legal cases

AMHash is significantly cheaper. Given an exchange price of 328 USD/BTC:

AMhash
Initial cost: 0.0012 BTC
Maintenance fee: 0.001551 USD per Gh per day

Bit-x:
Initial cost: 0.00147253 BTC
Maintenance fee: 0.0035096 USD per Gh per day

So, Bit-x is more expensive up-front and their maintenance fee is more than double AMHash's.

From the Bit-x mining calculator:

https://i.imgur.com/UpkGYFm.png

AMHash is paying out nearly 4x as much as Bit-x. I can't believe that this is all BitFury have got to offer so I'm thinking they're just getting the platform working for their upcoming next gen miners. I'm sure I read somewhere that they were expecting samples at the end of December for their new chips.

Dear Name: BitFurry
Posts: 1
Activity: 1
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: December 19, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
Last Active: December 19, 2014, 09:29:43 PM

It is impossible to manufacture a product without having all technical information on hands and a solid contract with the plant/factory. You can’t just come out of nowhere with a ready maskset and tell the plant to manufacture it. It’s foolish to base your design and production on unofficial PDK hoping that it will succeed or even get produced at all. NDA’s need to be signed, money must be paid up front, months of work and testing needs to be done before going into mass production.

We don’t play Russian roulette. Our strategy is hard work and precise and efficient execution.

We are meticulous about everything we do. We invest time and money in research, development and implementation of our products and create unmatched products and customer experience. After all, we have a hard-earned reputation of the market leader for a reason.

These forums have unfortunately become a playground for bashing competition with sock-puppet and troll accounts. BitFury being the leader is an easy target. We will reply to such behavior just this once: We are not at war with anyone and we’re not looking for conflict.

Instead, we build mutually beneficial partnerships. We aim to create a win-win. We are passionate about Bitcoin and are committed to developing and growing the Bitcoin ecosystem. We have the great vision, the well-thought plan, the winning strategy and an amazing team.

We choose not to play dirty games. Our focus is to secure bitcoin network – not blackmailing our competitors, or manipulating markets or exchanges. We chose a different path and it seems to be working. This quote seems very fitting: "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mohandas Gandhi

If you have something to say-say it. Openly. Our lawyers, engineers, strategists and technologists will respond in kind.

We keep true to our mission and are open and transparent. We invite you to do the same.

BitFury

Dear „no-one from nowhere": Next time we will delete the posts with spam allegations like this that offer no value to the bitcointalk.org community. Please have some respect.
 
We do not manufacture 20nm chips. You can check the product page on our website here: http://www.bitfury.org/products .

Give us some teasers. Show us how well designed Bitfury is.
We know you can make sub 1$ chip to outperform everyone. This does not mean every idiot is eligible to buy Bitfury miners.

will you also retailing your future or your old miners? bitfurystrikesback.com? when?

Thank you for your interest in BitFury and our market-leading products. We currently do not sell our hardware. While we constantly monitor the development of the home miners market, we do not have any ideas/news to share at this time. We will make sure to update you when we are ready. The Bitfurystrikesback.com website will remain closed for the time being.

Dear Bitfury,

if I correctly understand, you will not produce 20nm chip...but only sell hash power.

If this is the case you have damage all people that have had faith in your company and have invested real money for project new device...

I'm one of this.

I hope to be wrong.

Please reply me

 

We manufacture 28 nm ASIC chips. We don't manufacture 20 nm chip.
We were selling hash power from our old 55 nm before, and we will sell hash power from our new 28nm chips.

Dear Bitfury Group

what is discutible in your behaviour is your stop in sell chips.

I and other had invested money for project device that use your 55nm bitfury chips and now I can only trash its and all already acquired components....

Is thanks to people like our (that had used your chip) that you are now BITFURY and not bitfury.....

Thanks



 

Dear Jr. Member pinkfloyd11,

Thank you for choosing our products.
While our old 55nm ASIC chip can beat some of the competitors' 28nm, we no longer manufacture & sell 55nm mining chips.

We have recently announced our technology road map https://in.finance.yahoo.com/news/bitfury-announces-technology-roadmap-sustained-120000726.html and are currently working on our newest, more advanced 28nm chip, so stay tuned and fill free to contact us if you have more questions!

I will use in bit-x mining ?

Please tell me . it is truther in miining ?

Hello Bitfury group,

I'm working for a "big electronic italian company" and I'm developing for them mining hardware.

They want create new top line products class and is in this new line that mining hardware will be placed.

We have already started developing a breakout board with  the only one existing 55nm chip.

Now we need assurance that you will sell 28nm chip otherwise our work will be lost.

In private message I will send you name of company and CEO contact.

Thanks

Although I would be using different words, did you got your assurance ?

Dear Ben

I don't understand

I'm sorry if there are error but I'm not english language native

You asked for assurance that Bitfury would sell their new chip, so I was wondering if you got a positive reply.

Not sure what I understood what you would like to ask. Guessing by keywords:

If you asking about bitx exchange and selling Virtual GHS power, then answer is: Bitx is our legitimate partner, yes they selling our hashing power.

Thank you for your interest in BitFury and our market-leading products.
We don’t currently sell our hardware.

Best regards,
BitFury

BitFury latest news: http://www.coindesk.com/bitfury-launches-new-28nm-bitcoin-mining-asic/

Four days old already, how about giving information about the datasheet and the availability of sample chips for designers ?

Hi Ben and thank you for your inquiry. We are in the process of updating product information on our website, so please continue to check our website for information (including specifications) on our 28nm.
Thanks!
BitFury

I hope you do realize that designers need the datasheet and sample chips multiple weeks before any bulk purchase of chips can occur.

how long will exist this company (bitx) about ?

"Hi Ben, yes we know that. We will soon update the product page on the website with information/new chip specifications, so please stay tuned. Once again, thank you for your inquiry. Best regards, BitFury"

Please address your questions to Bit-x https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=874312.260

Thanks, I've set up an page change alert on www.bitfury.org/products.html

Will sample chips be available soon ?

Miners are no longer simple devices as they used to be. These days, electrical and physical design and construction may take months. Modern miner is a piece of art and a result of hard work of engineering teams. Because of its complexity and high power consumption mining equipment today requires a lot of technical support and oversight. We do not sell our chips to consumers, hence no datamaps, protocols descriptions or sample chips of our 28 nm ASIC will be available.

Is this the best you can do, tell us that we're incapable of designing an electronic device with Bitfury chips ?
I dare you, I know for sure there are multiple designer teams that can design a miner with the new Bitfury chips within a month. That is, with proper documentation and sample chips.

Don't get me wrong, I can understand more or less that Bitfury is not willing to sell their chips, because that will make the piece of the BTC pie that Bitfury will mine smaller, but I am sure Bitfury (and the shareholders) will appreciate the profit coming out of selling chips.

What is the relationship between BitFury and Ghash, BitFury and CEX.IO?

Cex.io is a sub-project of Ghash, as indicated on their web page https://ghash.io
Ghash is a former customer that used to buy BitFury miners for its own usage and for Cex.io. Cex.io has also used a lot of miners from other manufacturers.

Are you saying CEX actually mine with their own equipment?

Thanks for your answer
Ghash belong to BitFury?
or Ghash once belonged to BitFury, Why separated?

Would you be selling chips to developers looking to design their own devices?

CEX is a former customer, who bought BitFury miners 1.5 years ago when CEX was just starting.

Ghash is a separate company from the very beginning. BitFury has never owned any part of it.

We do not plan on selling our chips to consumers

I did not ask as a end customer. I asked as a potential hardware designer, developer and equipment manufacturer (OEM).

And yes, I did read the lengthy piece in the very beginning.
Including this:They actually never have been. It's been trough developers and OEMs who convert the complicated design into an easy to use one.

and this:
I know. I've done it before. And I paid the entire bill. And I know it's a lot of hard work. And I know it's a piece of art. And I might still be interested in doing it again.

and this too:
And I can assure you that there are people quite capable of designing a very complicated equipment and providing the technical support and oversight.

So - even if people who have more than proven that they know how to handle chips and designs - would it be possible for such specialists to be permitted access to your chips? And presuming they're okay with taking all the risks - would you let any other (than your) designs see the light?

We don't doubt your experience as a hardware designer. We're more concerned about ROI for anyone (especially unexperienced new miners) entering the mining market now, and the negative effect that a failure to achieve ROI might have on our reputation, as the products would still be using our chip. Considering they are often marketed with unrealistic ROI to customers, it is a legitimate concern.
 
This is one of the reasons why we currently don't have a plan to cell our chips to other companies/designers. Should our position change, we will announce it here and make data sheet, specifications and possibly also a reference design available for 3rd party designers and OEM manufacturers.
 
As always, we are grateful for your interest in our products and our company!

I hope you do :)
I know for sure of at least a few other developers who would also be interested in your chips. Your previous ones were among the best  and I suspect your newer ones won't be any different.

If you do change your position please add me to your notification list.

And thanks for the detailed answer!

So that's a yes then. Interesting.

Do these guys pay block found (PPLNS) or any other way?

Please clarify your question. Thank you.

BitFury is a hardware manufacturer, not a pool.

Well they have at least 20PH on internal pools but they don't have a public pool(I think they used ghash.io at one point but not anymore).

We are proud to celebrate Allied Control's achievement: the company was recognized by the prestigious environmental award! See more here:
http://insidebitcoins.com/news/bitfurys-allied-control-to-reduce-energy-footprint-for-chip-cooling/32695

Congratulations !!! That is an awesome achievement :)

Thank you! :)

Mining bitcoin is as easy as turning on a light bulb with BitFury: http://www.coindesk.com/bitfury-light-bulbs-mine-bitcoin/

Please help us spread the word and help people affected by the devastating floods in Tbilisi, Georgia. Half of the city center submerged, dozen people killed and numerous animals in the zoo perished.
Donate #bitcoin TODAY to save lives!
 
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150615006274/en/BitFury-Georgian-Co-Investment-Fund-Start-Bitcoin-Fundraising#.VX8UbyFViug

We are proud and privileged to welcome some truly exceptional people to our advisory board!
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitfury-adds-bitcoin-heavy…

When those lamps gonna be available to buy online? I'm definitely buying one.. A cool idea, in the world of smart things where everything is connected..

100% for bitfury group there is nothing more important than moving closer to your customers and intended customers, we can now reach you just by PM or simply post here and get response, WELL DONE  ;D

Stay tuned and visit our Press Page to stay on top of our most recent news: http://www.bitfury.org/press

BitFury Raises $20 Million in Latest Fundraising Round

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-miner-bitfury-rasies-20-million/

Ya'll just keep growing and growing, Congrats!  I'll take a light bulb or two for the novelty of it, but no expectation of making much coin off it.

Hi,

I've noticed that you "steal" ;) quite a few blocks from Antpool/BITMAIN, where I have interests. Today you are even on top of the block finders. Great work!  ;D

I'd like to know if you have any plans to open up your operation to ordinary investors as BITMAIN has?

Also, to be interesting for you to consider a partner deal, without the middleman Bit-x who of course shaves off profit, how much is needed to invest in your operations? 10BTC? 100? 1000...?

Thanks :)

Please refer to the information we sent to you via pm

Hi, I contacted bitfury.org in regard of hosted cloud mining by your organization but never received a response.

could i be sent the same information via pm? thx.

@BitFury Group

Pls send me the same information via pm? thx.

Thank you for your interest, we are always open to new partnership opportunities.
At this time, we offer contracts starting from 1Phs. If you are interested in such wholesale volumes, send us request at sales@bitfury.org and we will follow up with detailed information

BitFury publishes extensive research on block size increase: http://www.bitfury.org/white-papers-research

Meh, pro increase... Such a surprise. ::)

Don't forget your business is relying on actual Bitcoin users..
Not some mass tipping adoption fantasy.

So plz stop insulting us with your power grabbing "research".

We have published new research on the topic "Proof of Stake vs Proof of Work": http://bitfury.org/white-papers-research
You are welcome to read and comment this paper here

White Paper "Public versus Private Blockchains" from BitFury Group in collaboration with Jeff Garzik:
http://bitfury.com/content/4-white-papers-research/public-vs-private-pt1-1.pdf
http://bitfury.com/content/4-white-papers-research/public-vs-private-pt2-1.pdf

As an investor on both bit-x and POS coins, I am quite interested in reading this paper. However the link to it seems to be broken. Could you please fix it?

Thanks for providing such good info and papers.

Thank you for your comment, we have already fixed it.

@BitFury Group

 Is this project still happening, do you guys have a release date in mind?  Thanks

We are working on this and will update once we have more information.

May I know what will be the hash rate (in TH/s) per light bulb set and the amount of power it consumes? I guess it won't be that energy efficient though! Also it might produce excessive amount of heat (as hashing speed gets increased gradually) which needs to be taken care of. BTW, does it produce sounds like the big boys (Antminers) :P

I'll definitely try this miner out...

The lamp will be silent as it's passively cooled. The hash rate and power draw will be announced when the product is finished.

Do you have a tentative date for a product launch?  Q1 2016? Or something like the second half of 2016? Thanks

We invite you to watch our video of the new 16nm chip! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zPpj1JYw38 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zPpj1JYw38)

This is first out of 3 videos in series about our new 16nm Bitcoin Mining ASIC where we demonstrate the low power performance of the chip. Notice that there is no heat sink attached. In the next videos we will demonstrate high power performance and higher hash rate that can be achieved by using a heat sink.

We expect mining devices with the 16nm chip to start appearing on the market as soon as by the end of March 2016.

Please beware of scammers and check our website for listing of confirmed integrator and reseller partners. We will be listing them in the coming weeks.

this post is for see whats new  8) waiting for new asics ::)

Nice videos, great to watch.

I would really like to be able to order your 16 nm new miner, tia :)

sir what is the cost of 1 bitfury 16nm chip and what will be its cost for 2000 quantities including shipping to india chennai. And will you provide any support for setting up the machine. i mailed you through your official website link but i didnt get any reply from you..Please provide us the necessary information sir

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Hello.

What is happening now or has already occurred centralization of computing power bitcoin network, as it is not a secret and it is not enough that worried, so also is contrary to the very idea of Bitcoin! To remove this problem, we need cheap and affordable delivery of modern Asik format USB Flash, with little consumption, which would only solo Mein (and preferably only Bitcoin).

So the points, I see it like this:
1. USB Flash format, low energy consumption, quite modern and efficient chips.
2. The device Mein only chops and only solo.
3. Sold as a lottery ticket - the type you can catch block, or for Bitcoin enthusiasts who would like to support the decentralization of the network and develop it.
4. The unit should be sold on aliexpress and cost $ 15-20 with free shipping.
5. Of course in power and price, the device should not be a competitor for industrial of mining, to manufacturers all of these devices and do not skimp!

Please arrange all this, if you really stand on the protection of blockchain.

Thank you.

Why you don't make cloud mining by your self ? i think it is will become famous and many people use your services because you have hardware by your self and your services will be trusted by users.

I think they already have a cloud mining service. Go to http://bitfury.com/ look at the bottom of the page. There is a link to www.hashing24.com
So I believe this project is owned by Bitfury.

Hello friend,

Could you tell us the Power Efficiency of 7.5 PH & 15 PH stations ?

Thanks

Hello
Why don't you signal BIP91?
https://www.xbt.eu

 George Kikvadze‏ @BitfuryGeorge 13h13 hours ago

Sorry for confusion @BitFuryGroup will def. signal for BIP91
7 replies 41 retweets 119 likes
https://twitter.com/BitfuryGeorge/status/887557125437829121

Thanks for this fast information.

They don't deliver any block since 476476

hi.  i need contacts with developer Group AI+Exonum+Bitfury

I did not understand why this branch was created at all o_O...

You had a vacant place in Georgia..

http://bitfury.shop/

is BitFury related to this store?

Bitfury B8 does not support large stratum.notify messages. P2pool needs large stratum.notify messages in order to be able to transmit the large coinbase transactions. That's need to take up this issue with Bitfury's software engineers.

this is a scam website. Bitfury doesn't sale directly on website.

Hello BitFury

I ran across an article about you regarding your system for liquid cooling ASIC miners
I'm building a 1000 unit farm and cooling the miners is my #1 concern as I live in a hot environment.

I'm looking for an alternative to massive fans, architects, engineers and a 500 tons AC Unit to solve my cooling needs

I want to basically know everything there is to know about the Data Tanks themselves and or just the Flat Racks and what the all the costs and needed equipment would be for 1000 Asics with your system

I look forward to hearing from you!!

What is the contact email address to find out where I can order/buy some of the Bitfury B8s?